I believe Extreme and KPM have merged a year ago. So chances are your album will be found in the Extreme catalog. Thumbs up and thank you Randy! Best, Andy
You're welcome! And the publishers should have that info listed on their site under "licensing" or the contact page. If not listed, they might be independent.
One of your best, Randy. Thanks! I listen to Extreme Music for reference tracks. As I understand it--and someone please correct me or add to the story--Hans Zimmer's protégés called Bleeding Fingers do a lot of the cues. I'm not sure what role Zimmer has with Extreme Music, but he does have one I bet.
@@randymcgraveymusic Yeah, I was trying to get an interesting comment thread going. I heard the Zimmer/Extreme Music affiliation from Dave Kropf's channel.
@@sweetersongs5219 Thanks for verifying that. Makes sense. Now he has a place to put all the music his team creates that doesn't make it into a film. And another way to pay his proteges.
Let me edit this and say that it is wonderful that you are trying to help and educate others...That said... Why are you using the term "sub-publishers" for signing and working with these companies...? They are production music libraries. It's odd that you calling then "sub"-publishers. They might have sub-publishers themselves but all these that you mention are production music companies that you would be working with.
@sweetersongs5219 yes they are production music companies. In most cases a library will publish the music in their own territory and sub-publish through companies like these for other territories. For example: www.mediatracks.co.uk/sub-publishers/page/all/1/a-z
Since a lot of these big publishers likely won't respond to direct submissions, the best route to take is to work with a library that sub-publishes through them. In cases like this where you aren't working directly with them, they are acting only as a sub-publisher. And for anyone reading this, please don't spam the library that I linked in my previous comment (or any library for that matter).
@@randymcgraveymusic Yes but your lingo here is not correct. Most PM/ companies and publishing companies that are not the majors have a web of independent sub-publishers. My company has sub-publishers. That said we your lingo is confusing. What you are saying is to sign with a company that has a good and complete network of sub-publishers for instance Extreme has sub-publishers but signing with them is signing with a library not a sub-publisher. APM actually does not have sub-publishers outside of the US/Canada it is their production music libraries that would need to have their own sub-publishers.
@@randymcgraveymusic Yes so if you are signing to this company you are signing with them as your first point of contact and then they have in place a network of sub-publishers but when you sign with them you are not signing to a sub-publisher yourself they will become your library connection "publisher" and then they themselves have sub-publishers. So what your really discussing here is ...the best 5 libraries to work with because they have a complete network of sub-publishers...not the top 5 major sub-publishers...
@@sweetersongs5219 I never said that the composer would be signing up with the sub publisher themselves. I also didn't mention specific libraries. I merely said that these are the top 5 sub-publishing entities for libraries to be affiliated with.
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I believe Extreme and KPM have merged a year ago. So chances are your album will be found in the Extreme catalog. Thumbs up and thank you Randy!
Best, Andy
@@andreasfranzmann9634 I think you're right. Cause the library that sub publishes through KPM that I joined now has Extreme listed. Good catch!
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Thanks, really appreciate you sharing this 😊 I have to ask my publishers who they go through.
You're welcome! And the publishers should have that info listed on their site under "licensing" or the contact page. If not listed, they might be independent.
Thank you for this info.
@marcusjmuzik9948 you're welcome, thanks for watching!
One of your best, Randy. Thanks! I listen to Extreme Music for reference tracks. As I understand it--and someone please correct me or add to the story--Hans Zimmer's protégés called Bleeding Fingers do a lot of the cues. I'm not sure what role Zimmer has with Extreme Music, but he does have one I bet.
@marshallpayne thanks for watching Marshall! And I'm not sure about the Hans Zimmer proteges. Hopefully someone can chime in about that!
@@randymcgraveymusic Yeah, I was trying to get an interesting comment thread going. I heard the Zimmer/Extreme Music affiliation from Dave Kropf's channel.
@@marshallpayne I'll check out that channel. Thanks!
Zimmer owns it
@@sweetersongs5219 Thanks for verifying that. Makes sense. Now he has a place to put all the music his team creates that doesn't make it into a film. And another way to pay his proteges.
Does these libraries accept instrumentals as well?
Most of them do, yes. Probably 98% of what I do is instrumental.
Let me edit this and say that it is wonderful that you are trying to help and educate others...That said... Why are you using the term "sub-publishers" for signing and working with these companies...? They are production music libraries. It's odd that you calling then "sub"-publishers. They might have sub-publishers themselves but all these that you mention are production music companies that you would be working with.
@sweetersongs5219 yes they are production music companies. In most cases a library will publish the music in their own territory and sub-publish through companies like these for other territories. For example: www.mediatracks.co.uk/sub-publishers/page/all/1/a-z
Since a lot of these big publishers likely won't respond to direct submissions, the best route to take is to work with a library that sub-publishes through them. In cases like this where you aren't working directly with them, they are acting only as a sub-publisher. And for anyone reading this, please don't spam the library that I linked in my previous comment (or any library for that matter).
@@randymcgraveymusic Yes but your lingo here is not correct. Most PM/ companies and publishing companies that are not the majors have a web of independent sub-publishers. My company has sub-publishers. That said we your lingo is confusing. What you are saying is to sign with a company that has a good and complete network of sub-publishers for instance Extreme has sub-publishers but signing with them is signing with a library not a sub-publisher. APM actually does not have sub-publishers outside of the US/Canada it is their production music libraries that would need to have their own sub-publishers.
@@randymcgraveymusic Yes so if you are signing to this company you are signing with them as your first point of contact and then they have in place a network of sub-publishers but when you sign with them you are not signing to a sub-publisher yourself they will become your library connection "publisher" and then they themselves have sub-publishers. So what your really discussing here is ...the best 5 libraries to work with because they have a complete network of sub-publishers...not the top 5 major sub-publishers...
@@sweetersongs5219 I never said that the composer would be signing up with the sub publisher themselves. I also didn't mention specific libraries. I merely said that these are the top 5 sub-publishing entities for libraries to be affiliated with.