I'm in the process of switching mine over. I went ahead and got the 29DC. I'll send you a comment on how it does. Thanks for the video. *Update* My switchover worked without a hitch. The 29DC batteries work extremely well. I did have to rework the platform to accommodate the longer batteries, but I have more power, faster driving speeds, and charge time seems quicker. Saved me a lot of $$$. 👍
I plan to participate in this video in the comments section LOL I am currently running 4 EverStart MAXX 29DC deep cycle marines with no issues. I have a digital battery meter instead of an analog like is in this video, from my own personal experience once I hit 48 volts I am on empty my stock charger the original will charge my cart up to full 52 volts and I manage 7 mile round trip but that was right when I got them now I have reworked the entire battery box and am also upgrading a lot of stuff electrically, I have a 2007 club car precedent 48 Volt system.
I just bought my first golf cart (an older Melex cart with dead batteries). The 36 volt charger wouldn't kick on to start charging. I pulled all the caps off and it took almost 2 gallons of distilled H2O to fill the 6 volt batteries back up. (Phoinex heat) Tried the charger again...nothing. I had a 12 volt charger that will try to charge totally dead batteries, so I unhooked the cables between battery #2 and 3, and between #4 and 5, and started trying to charge them 2 at a time. when finished 4 of them came back to life. Two of them were bad. Went and bought 3 - 12 volt DC batts from Walmart. First experiment, I removed the two bad 6v's and installed the fisrt 12v in their place. (I wanted to see if the cart really would run or not, so I could return the other two 12v's for a refund and cut my losses). Jumped in the cart and turned on the switch, and the cart worked! Drove it around the block, no problem, except it only goes 10-11 mph. I yanked out the other 4 - 6v batts, and hooked up all three 12 volt batteries and it runs good except it's still slow and currently no lights or reverse beeper. I'm reading about where you moved the cable for the lights and the S1-S2 switch as well. Do you think I have the same problem? Not totally clear on where to move the lights cable to, and how to do this forward/reverse switch. Any feedback would be appreciated.
So I did this the lazy way. I did the S1-S2 switch because I was having the same issue with going really slow in forward. After I did the switch however I left the shifter in it backwards so in mine when the gear selector is in forward it's going backwards and vise versa. I then simply disconnected everything so that when I was driving forward with the cart selected in reverse lights and sounds didn't go off. If you do the S1-S2 swap and it doesn't work you can always label what wires go where and simply switch it back.
You're running under half the Amp-Hours that you had before which is why your meter reads around half when the batteries go dead. To get close to equivalent run time that you had before you'd have to add 3 more batteries in the parallel config, doubling your 101 Ah to 202. You could've purchased the next better Wal-mart battery for $95 to get 120-something Ah batteries. I'm about to do this myself and hopefully when they need replacement in 3 or 4 years the cost of Lithium batteries will come down to something respectable.
This is exactly my plan as well I am running four of those 29DC ever start max marine batteries I manage to get a 7 mile range before I hit 48 volts which is empty.
I COULD be wrong but I believe those do need water from time to time. See if those caps will pop off. Hope this helps to keep them going for a long time. =)
Mine say maintenance free also but there are definitely caps, I still check them and if they are empty or go low which has not happened yet I would just hop off the plate with distilled water we have to keep our eyes peeled on this!
Hey chris, i did this swap 3 months ago and it was great. Now it seems my batteries will die as im riding. After maybe 100 yards i have lost one bar on my battery meter!! Any suggestions??
My only suggestion would be to get the larger batteries than I did. The larger 12 volt do better for me. I don’t go too far so it’s never been a huge issue.
Should add a nice aluminum floor under the batteries for a nicer mount. I’m looking at the same conversion now on a cheap local cart. Batteries are a lot more near me sadly around $220 per battery but still a good deal.
Yeah I just replaced one and it was around $80. Not sure if I’ll change the mounts for them as me and my kids go through the mud quite a bit. I’ve been happy with this swap, it’s done everything I’ve needed. Where are you that batteries are so expensive?
I don’t understand the S1 to S2 swap or why it would change anything when it was a 36v system regardless. What exactly are the S1 and S2? Then why does it change when you swap them? Are there any advantages of leaving them alone? Currently trying to figure out my wiring on mine and do the swap now. I got it with no batteries in it. So not sure what wires are for the 36v series and what should be wired to a single 12v circuit. Thanks!
Yeah without looking at the cart I can’t really help with the which wires go where. The S1 S2 are the wires from the switch to the motor that tell the motor to spin forward or reverse. I had to swap mine because I had reverse power (1/2 speed) in forward and full power in reverse, so it was really fast backwards and really slow forward. I’m not an electrical engineer so I can’t explain why but going from 6 batteries an even number to 3 batteries an odd number changed the power delivery to the motor so swapping S1 and S2 fixed that. Hope that helps answer your questions.
@@ChrisThedudenurse I had a club car with the same problem. And it had something yo do with the reverse beeper wiring. I took the pink wire off of the microswitch on my forward reverse lever and it took off forward same as reverse. Maybe it will work for you too.
@@ChrisThedudenurse I got my brands mixed up since I have 2. The yamaha 36v g9 golf cart has the micro switch on top of the reverse forward switch. Cleaning the battery and cable contacts also helped in performance.
Have you guys seen better battery life compared with 6 Volt?? Some people are claiming they dont last as much. is it true since you have alot of experience with Marine 12v?
My experience with the 12 volts is they are MUCH cheaper and easier to maintain, however do not last as long on a single charge. All I do is ride the kids around the neighborhood so it works great for me.
I broke a post on one of my batteries and have to change it so I’ll do a video of the install and review all the wires with all the batteries out later on.
Start batteries have thinner lead plates than true deep cycle GC2 six golf cart batteries. They will certainly have a shorter life in use powering a golf cart. I use golf cart batteries in my boat to power everything at anchor for days, and after six years they still perform like new.
@@ChrisThedudenurse cool man. I just picked up a vintage Cushman previously swapped. Seems to work pretty good other than not having a 36v charger. Have to undo and rewire to charge them all at 12v then rewire to 36v every time.
@@BTRPlumbing you’ll have to link the positive and negative connections correctly and everything should hook straight up. It’s fairly easy the hardest part is removing and putting back in the batteries.
@@healeydave at the time when I did it I was just doing the cheapest way possible, I’m not sure I need to double the amperage, some stronger batteries would be nice.
I'm in the process of switching mine over. I went ahead and got the 29DC. I'll send you a comment on how it does. Thanks for the video.
*Update* My switchover worked without a hitch. The 29DC batteries work extremely well. I did have to rework the platform to accommodate the longer batteries, but I have more power, faster driving speeds, and charge time seems quicker. Saved me a lot of $$$. 👍
Awesome! Those are what I wanted to use but they didn’t have 3 in stock.
I plan to participate in this video in the comments section LOL I am currently running 4 EverStart MAXX 29DC deep cycle marines with no issues. I have a digital battery meter instead of an analog like is in this video, from my own personal experience once I hit 48 volts I am on empty my stock charger the original will charge my cart up to full 52 volts and I manage 7 mile round trip but that was right when I got them now I have reworked the entire battery box and am also upgrading a lot of stuff electrically, I have a 2007 club car precedent 48 Volt system.
I just bought my first golf cart (an older Melex cart with dead batteries). The 36 volt charger wouldn't kick on to start charging. I pulled all the caps off and it took almost 2 gallons of distilled H2O to fill the 6 volt batteries back up. (Phoinex heat) Tried the charger again...nothing. I had a 12 volt charger that will try to charge totally dead batteries, so I unhooked the cables between battery #2 and 3, and between #4 and 5, and started trying to charge them 2 at a time. when finished 4 of them came back to life. Two of them were bad. Went and bought 3 - 12 volt DC batts from Walmart. First experiment, I removed the two bad 6v's and installed the fisrt 12v in their place. (I wanted to see if the cart really would run or not, so I could return the other two 12v's for a refund and cut my losses). Jumped in the cart and turned on the switch, and the cart worked! Drove it around the block, no problem, except it only goes 10-11 mph. I yanked out the other 4 - 6v batts, and hooked up all three 12 volt batteries and it runs good except it's still slow and currently no lights or reverse beeper. I'm reading about where you moved the cable for the lights and the S1-S2 switch as well. Do you think I have the same problem? Not totally clear on where to move the lights cable to, and how to do this forward/reverse switch. Any feedback would be appreciated.
So I did this the lazy way. I did the S1-S2 switch because I was having the same issue with going really slow in forward. After I did the switch however I left the shifter in it backwards so in mine when the gear selector is in forward it's going backwards and vise versa. I then simply disconnected everything so that when I was driving forward with the cart selected in reverse lights and sounds didn't go off. If you do the S1-S2 swap and it doesn't work you can always label what wires go where and simply switch it back.
@@ChrisThedudenurse I'm going to mess with it today and see if I can get some lights or some more mph... Thnx!
same here. when you jump battery to battery. so you switched the light cable from neg to pos jump
I finally did a volt meter test from the lights not the batteries and it was 12 🤦♂️. I just didn’t think 2 6’s is 12 not 2 12’s is still 12.
You're running under half the Amp-Hours that you had before which is why your meter reads around half when the batteries go dead. To get close to equivalent run time that you had before you'd have to add 3 more batteries in the parallel config, doubling your 101 Ah to 202. You could've purchased the next better Wal-mart battery for $95 to get 120-something Ah batteries. I'm about to do this myself and hopefully when they need replacement in 3 or 4 years the cost of Lithium batteries will come down to something respectable.
Definitely makes sense. I went with the smaller batteries because it’s what was available at the time.
This is exactly my plan as well I am running four of those 29DC ever start max marine batteries I manage to get a 7 mile range before I hit 48 volts which is empty.
Did you ever get this done? If so, how did it do?
Thanks
I COULD be wrong but I believe those do need water from time to time. See if those caps will pop off. Hope this helps to keep them going for a long time. =)
The 6 volts hold water the 12 volts do not. These are maintenance free kinda like a car battery.
Mine say maintenance free also but there are definitely caps, I still check them and if they are empty or go low which has not happened yet I would just hop off the plate with distilled water we have to keep our eyes peeled on this!
Hey chris, i did this swap 3 months ago and it was great. Now it seems my batteries will die as im riding. After maybe 100 yards i have lost one bar on my battery meter!! Any suggestions??
My only suggestion would be to get the larger batteries than I did. The larger 12 volt do better for me. I don’t go too far so it’s never been a huge issue.
Should add a nice aluminum floor under the batteries for a nicer mount. I’m looking at the same conversion now on a cheap local cart. Batteries are a lot more near me sadly around $220 per battery but still a good deal.
Yeah I just replaced one and it was around $80. Not sure if I’ll change the mounts for them as me and my kids go through the mud quite a bit. I’ve been happy with this swap, it’s done everything I’ve needed. Where are you that batteries are so expensive?
Will the 29dc batteries fit as well? The 24dc looks like it fits perfectly in the rails.
The 29’s will be just a little bit too big for this golf cart but you could always hold them in with a tie down. That’s what I do.
I have four of the 29DC and they fit perfectly but not in the stock location of course I will need to take pictures
I don’t understand the S1 to S2 swap or why it would change anything when it was a 36v system regardless. What exactly are the S1 and S2? Then why does it change when you swap them? Are there any advantages of leaving them alone?
Currently trying to figure out my wiring on mine and do the swap now. I got it with no batteries in it. So not sure what wires are for the 36v series and what should be wired to a single 12v circuit. Thanks!
Yeah without looking at the cart I can’t really help with the which wires go where. The S1 S2 are the wires from the switch to the motor that tell the motor to spin forward or reverse. I had to swap mine because I had reverse power (1/2 speed) in forward and full power in reverse, so it was really fast backwards and really slow forward. I’m not an electrical engineer so I can’t explain why but going from 6 batteries an even number to 3 batteries an odd number changed the power delivery to the motor so swapping S1 and S2 fixed that. Hope that helps answer your questions.
@@ChrisThedudenurse I had a club car with the same problem. And it had something yo do with the reverse beeper wiring. I took the pink wire off of the microswitch on my forward reverse lever and it took off forward same as reverse. Maybe it will work for you too.
@@dand7056 mine did not have a reverse alarm or lights for reverse. Not sure why, maybe I got a base model or something.
@@ChrisThedudenurse I got my brands mixed up since I have 2. The yamaha 36v g9 golf cart has the micro switch on top of the reverse forward switch. Cleaning the battery and cable contacts also helped in performance.
Hii what's s1 s2 swap mean you have to do for upgrade from 6 volts to 12 volts? Thank you for your time
You may not have to do the swap but I did because after doing the 6 volt to 12 volt swap my forward speed and reverse speed had been switched.
Hi Thank you Chris makes sense 🔋
Add a solar panel charger just a thought
Great minds think alike. I wanna do 3, 1 for each battery. The issue is making it look good.
Have you guys seen better battery life compared with 6 Volt?? Some people are claiming they dont last as much. is it true since you have alot of experience with Marine 12v?
My experience with the 12 volts is they are MUCH cheaper and easier to maintain, however do not last as long on a single charge. All I do is ride the kids around the neighborhood so it works great for me.
@@ChrisThedudenurse Thank you Chris!
Hey there boss can you shoot me a diagram of your batteries and the motor just bought one about two hours ago thanks
I broke a post on one of my batteries and have to change it so I’ll do a video of the install and review all the wires with all the batteries out later on.
Start batteries have thinner lead plates than true deep cycle GC2 six golf cart batteries. They will certainly have a shorter life in use powering a golf cart. I use golf cart batteries in my boat to power everything at anchor for days, and after six years they still perform like new.
I was just going with the cheapest easiest route after buying the cart with dead batteries. Is the name a nod to the old British cartoon?
Those aren't really maintenance free batteries. you still have to put distilled water in from time to time.
No these don’t open
Still working?
Yes it is, I had to replace 1 battery due to an arching wire that also needed replaced.
@@ChrisThedudenurse cool man. I just picked up a vintage Cushman previously swapped. Seems to work pretty good other than not having a 36v charger. Have to undo and rewire to charge them all at 12v then rewire to 36v every time.
Will this damage the motor at all? I’m thinking about doing this to my 89 EZ-GO Textron cart
I’ve been running it like this for over a year and haven’t had any issues.
@@ChrisThedudenurse ok cool! Do you know it will wire up the same as yours?
@@BTRPlumbing you’ll have to link the positive and negative connections correctly and everything should hook straight up. It’s fairly easy the hardest part is removing and putting back in the batteries.
Have you thought about putting six of these batteries in a 3S2P configuration so it’s still 36 Volts but double the Amps?
@@healeydave at the time when I did it I was just doing the cheapest way possible, I’m not sure I need to double the amperage, some stronger batteries would be nice.
U till need water in them my friend
No, there is no water in these batteries.
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What?