⭐️SPIES⭐️ WOMEN In Intelligence By Dr Helen Fry
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ก.ย. 2024
- It is a great honour to welcome Dr Helen Fry to The Vintage Read Show!
We discuss her latest book, Women in Intelligence, a groundbreaking history of women in British intelligence that reveals their pivotal role in the first half of the twentieth century.
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About The Author:
Historian and biographer Helen Fry is the author of The Walls Have Ears, Spymaster, MI9, and more than twenty books on intelligence, prisoners of war, and the social history of the Second World War. She regularly appears in media interviews and podcasts and has been involved in numerous documentaries.
Book Description:
From the twentieth century onward, women took on an extraordinary range of intelligence roles, defying the conventions of their time. Across both world wars, far from being a small part of covert operations, women ran spy networks and escape lines, parachuted behind enemy lines, and interrogated prisoners. And, back in Bletchley and Whitehall, women's vital administrative work in MI offices kept the British war engine running.
In this major, panoramic history, Helen Fry looks at the rich and varied work women undertook as civilians and in uniform. From spies in the Belgian network "La Dame Blanche," knitting coded messages into jumpers, to those who interpreted aerial images and even ran entire sections, Fry shows how crucial women were in the intelligence mission. Filled with hitherto unknown stories, Women in Intelligence places new research on record for the first time and showcases the inspirational contributions of these remarkable women.
They really were empowered women... They didn't talk it...they walked it.. Thank you so much Shauna & Helen..so educational and so proud of them ❤
Now that’s a story of strong independent intelligent women. For all those who are hell bent on wiping out our wonderful history. Thank you ❤️❤️❤️🏴
💪 indeed!
My grandmother, her twin sister and their mother all work for Mi5 during the war. My great-grandmother ran a safe house in Belgravia and had press cartoons drawn of her asking …”who is the elusive Mrs Wiggins..?” Say no more. Magnificent ladies I am so proud ❤
You should be proud!
How extraordinary!!
Oh my goodness, can you imagine how brave they must have been? Especially when you think what could have happened to them. What good stock you come from!!
Amazing! ❤
Wow that is something to be proud of.
Fascinating stories of inspiring ladies. British people are so proud of all these incredible, intelligent and strong women.
What a fabulous interview! I worked with a Scottish surgeon many years ago. His sister worked at Bletchley Park, and he never knew what she did, not even 40 years after the war.
Thank you, thank you, thank you, Shauna, for interviewing Helen Fry. This was fantastic. ❤️🌹🐝
Wow Shauna, that has to be one of the best videos you've done. What a fascinating subject. All those brave women and men who sacrificed to make us safe. Thanks to Dr Fry we get to learn about it. God bless them all.
Yes! Thank you!
Just ordered it, on the basis of Helen’s excitement. We are so close to losing the history of this, as our population ages. Work like this immortalises the courage of amazing women
So did I, for the same reason
How truly interesting Shauna!!! Thank you for inviting Helen to share her stories!!❣️❣️❣️
Glad you enjoyed it!
Dr. Fry, you are quite correct, I have loved listening to you and hearing these stories. Thank you. Brilliant Shauna, more please ❤
Dear Vintage, Dr. Fry has a wonderful voice and is so enjoyable. ❤
Yes I agree!
How truly inspiring is this story in female power and achievement.
Truly wonderful listening. A heartfelt thank you to you both. ❤
Fascinating interview, brilliant for a rainy day in good old Blighty!!🇬🇧👏👏👏
Helen's energy is remarkable!
Yes she is unique, just captivating!
Just when I thought there was not anything new being covered about Women's war work, along comes a Dr Fry and she not doing Maths. No disrespect to Dr Hannah Fry. It depressingly unsurprising that women's historical contributions are played down, or ignored, so I look forward to reading this book. Also what a good communicator she is, and your enthusiasm for the subject matter really made this programme a winner.
Thank you
What a treat on a rainy Sunday morning in Wiltshire. Such an inspiring and riveting exchange today, celebrating these unsung heroines, thank you both ✨💫✨
I didn’t move a muscle the entire interview. Spellbound. Thank you so much. 😊💕🇨🇦
What a lovely thing to say! Thanks for watching 😊
Thank you, Shauna & Helen. What a mind blowing, jaw dropping interview! I've always been fascinated with espionage and to hear about the unsung heroines of WWI & WWII had me listening to you both with my mouth hanging open the whole 44 minutes! LOVE THIS! ❤❤❤❤❤
How lovely of you to say! Thank you 🙌
Oh Shauna. I LOVED this! There is certainly more than 1 convo in this. Again please❤
On it!
Especially women of other nationalities
My absolute favourite of all your interviews, Shauna! Thank you so much. My beloved great aunt was in Special Operations Executive, and sent to France during WW2.
Wow so brave 🙌
I was TOTALLY captivated from beginning to end!!!
The energy was crackling - maybe some of those incredible heroines were keeping us all company from somewhere out there in the ether...
Thank you so much Helen❤🎉
Another superb interview Shauna!!!
❤🎉
Keep these coming please!
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I had this on while I did my ironing, a dull and mundane task elevated to something immensely enjoyable by the company I chose. Dr Fry is so knowledgeable,passionate and enthusiastic it was a real pleasure to listen to her. I’m definitely buying this book! That was quite a juicy little snippet about the Vatican involvement with the Allies, it certainly runs contrary to a lot of prevailing narratives!
Excellent!
Does it run contrary? If they considered themselves "neutral," why wouldn't they help people from both sides escape? And if both sides have it documented, as Dr. Fry says, then it would appear that's what they did. Or perhaps the Church is not a monolith and individual parishes made individual choices which the Vatican elected to ignore in favor of neutrality.
Wow! I love this interview. Dr Helen Fry is a fascinating guest. Thanks Shauna!
Thanks for listening
That was one of the best interviews I've heard on TH-cam. Well done, Shauna. I have a feeling Dr Helen Fry's work is going to become my October obsession. Brilliant.
Wow! I really appreciate that x
It is wonderful to hear about women in intelligence and in high powered jobs , what normally is a male dominated role ,as women are not normally taken seriously ,what great achievements and assets they are ,I love hearing stories about women in these roles ,I am also at the moment ,changing subject slightly, watching a documentary on women on Everest ,which is wonderful but sad to watch, as some of them are still on Everest ,on which they rest , I am currently watching one called ,women of Everest ,about our brave women taking on one of the most dangerous and deadly mountains in the world ,but I salute all women ,of courage bravery ,intelligence ,you are, inspirational and an empowerment, to all women ❤
It sounds fascinating Anne
What a delightful Sunday morning treat! Just fascinating!
I read The Walls have Ears and Women in Intelligence leading up to this podcast. I highly recommend both, very interesting.
I'm working my way through The Walls Have Ears right now and concur!
Definitely on my book list.....once again brilliant interview Shauna....Helen is so interesting. ❤
Wow I'd love to have been there when Helen was going through all the files. Having signed the Official Secrets Act myself its very intriguing to realise how women helped win both wars. Thanks Helen and Shauna for a fantastic episode
Yes! An amazing experience.
It WOULD make a great drama series!
I watched this without much expectation that the subject would interest me. How wrong I was! This interview was a revelation and I will definitely be putting this book on my reading list. Well done Shauna and Helen.
Shauna that was more than brilliant. My little grey cells are going bing bing bing. Love the stories and ty for getting Helen to tell us all about her motivation. I can Helen doing an Alfred Hitchcock tv series.
Shawna your channel just goes from strength to strength, I loved this episode so much!
This whole topic fascinates me and your entire conversation was so interesting with Dr Fry! As as child, I read the story of Odette who was a famous spy during WW2 & am still captivated by her courage. I can’t wait to read Helen’s book now and learn more about these remarkable women. As always, thank you for opening my eyes, Shauna!
A lot of Women writers in Historical mysteries have incorporated women spies in their books. Anne Perry, Anne Lee Huber, Ashly Weaver, and Lynn Britney to name a few. Being Historical they include real facts of the time.
Love the interview!!
Jacqueline Winspear!!!
Thank you for this most interesting, and well-researched, intellectually stimulating, information on espionage and skullduggery in the wars of the twentieth century. The competition one often hears of male vs female, and who was "better" or should have been treated better in these situations was missing here and I am grateful for that and your fact-based, non-political discussion . In war, we are all called on to be better and more than we ever thought we could be, both male and female. So thank you for speaking fact without personal male vs female viewpoint involvement. You did well, both of you.
I’m going to buy the book!
Extremely interesting
Fascinating. Thank you Shauna.
Absolutely loved this video. Thank you Shauna for reviewing this book and it’s amazing author’s work.
Good morning from Canada. You make my weekend!!!
So glad!
Absolutly fascinating! I can't wait to read this one
You will love it!
I thoroughly enjoyed the interview with Helen Fry and you ladies have made me so curious to learn more that I have ordered the books Women In Intelligence, The Walls Have Ears and The Spymaster. Looking forward to reading all of them and learning about the very brave women. Thank you both .
What a great interview, that conversation was so enjoyable and interesting. Dr Fry comes across as such a down-to-earth person. My appetite has been thoroughly whetted, so this is going to be next on my reading list. Thank you so much Shauna, and also Dr Fry. All the best, Annie, Wales. 📖😸
Our pleasure!
WOW! Fantastic interview, Shauna, you both are so enthusiastic and articulate. Thank you for having Dr. Fry on your show - so interesting!
Thanks for your support! Not sure about articulate at one stage I said “definity” instead of definitive! Nerves & excitement 😂
A truly wonderful interview with a very, very interesting woman. Loved listening to Helen's stories, thank you Shauna xxx
Thanks for watching! Yes Helen is fascinating.
Shauna that was absolutely fabulous. I’m so glad that you interviewed Dr Helen Fry who is a fascinating woman with a wealth of knowledge. I’ve never had any real interest in spies and the Intelligence Service but after listening to this I’ve become a new convert. I’ll definitely buy this book and I will also have a look at the other books Helen has written.
Wonderful 😊💕
Gee Shauna this has been riveting
Ohh on a beach in Nice and just got out the sea , dried off and hey ho lying here having a listen what a treat 👍👍
Show off! 😂 That sounds divine x
What wonderful stories of bravery and courage. Thank you both for bringing them to us.
Another fantastic interview. As an avid fan of this genre of history I can't wait to read her books. Thanks so much for doing this interview.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Wow! Thank you both!
Fascinating! Yet another book to add to my ‘must buy’ list.
Please do!
Behind every great woman, is a greater woman. I'm keen to read this work, Dr. Fry. Thank you Shauna.
Wonderful!
You do have the best guest!
This is fantastic! I need to get this book! Thanks Shauna! ❤
It's so good!
Ooo! I’m going straight out to buy that. Absolutely fascinating chat.
I have to purchase this book now. That was absolutely fascinating, Shauna. I hope you interview Helen again very soon. These women and the things they did were incredible!!
Thank you Shauna and Helen
I hope so too!
I loved your conversation and have ordered the book. My family and I saw the movie A Call To Spy directed by and highlighted three amazing women Virginia Hall, an Indian-British radio operator Noor Khan who was held in jail for 10 months and then sent to a concentration camp and shot in the head. The third was a Jew Vera Atkins who led the women spies (you mentioned her in your interview)
Two other books I’m currently reading - The Lost Girls of Paris by Pam Jenoff and a Woman of No Importance by Sonia Purnell
Dr Fry is correct that the stories need to be told otherwise we would never know. I love history and I was so surprised about women who became spies.
Like all your videos I thoroughly enjoyed your interview. Both of you showed the joy and love of reading, researching and writing about those who can inspire us.
Great interview! Very interesting! I would love to see this as a series. Seems there are so many fascinating stories a movie would not do it justice 😊
I thoroughly enjoyed this interview with Dr Fry. She is new to me, as an author, and I am excited to purchase this book. I am a Vintage lady who is a member of a Book Club. My last book choice was on Virginia Hall. Now, I am going to pursue the story of Vera Atkins. People of integrity, purpose and substance are “my people”! I try to encourage younger folk to surround themselves with THOSE stories, instead of the “stories” of IG, FB and YT minions. Thank you Shawna, for being “my person!” You are a GREAT interviewer!
Great interview - I’ve already downloaded the book and will be listening today - bbc series foyles war last episode highlighted women in intelligence
Brilliant. This was a terrific, interesting, and entertaining interview! ❤
Thanks so much! 😊🙌
What a delightful lady Helen is. Wish I could source her work. Do please speak to her again.
Google Dr Helen Fry & all her books will come up and there is a link to this book in the description. 😊
Great interview Shauna, fascinating and informative I now want to read all of Helen Fry's books, I also know the perfect person to buy this one for Christmas.
Yes I am reading The Walls Have Ears now!
Thank you, Shauna. Yet another great interview.. totally engaging.. you are like fine Australian wine. You just get better anð more appreciated. You go girl, our littĺe Àussie gem! ❤ ❤from Gold Coast Australia ❤
What a treat, Shauna. Thank you sooooo much. I love your channel.
So glad!
Fascinating !!!! ❤
Thoroughly enjoyed this interview with Helen, thanks ✅ Shauna, will buy the book to read much more!
Wonderful!
Loving this Shauna. Just bought the book on Audible ❤
Fantastic!
A fascinating chat to listen to on a wet Sunday afternoon here in Wales. I'm going to order the book. X
Wonderful!
❤ Brilliant and so much more to discover through her books, thank you Shauna, My winter nights are looking better and better with all these new topics to enjoy ❤
That’s wonderful x
What a pleasant coincidence. I had just finished watching A Call to Spy on SBS about women training in covert operations during WWII.
Yay, it IS my Sunday morning!
Enjoy!
@@thevintageread definitely will, sip ☕️ 💝
Shauna and Dr Helen Fry, such a fabulously interesting video, I actually have the book on the Library waitlist !! What a fascinating interview into the courageous women (and men) who worked quietly in espionage and I agree with Dr Fry -- their stories, their immense contribution to the Allied forces, their perseverance, all the countless unsung efforts must be brought into the open to be honoured.
Aida, Singapore
Thank you Aida
WOW, fabulous interview, Shauna. Thank you. Must get that book. So interesting. Loved it and Helen's enthusiasm ❤
Yes it’s infectious
@@thevintageread Helen means "Shining Star."
That was an awesome interview, straight out tomorrow to buy Helen’s book, can’t wait to read it, thank you Shauna for your support of wonderful books.
Terrific stuff and very much on my wavelength too!
That means a lot from you! Thanks Phil x
@@thevintageread Your face when she talked about murdering someone via their ear!!
I can’t wait to read this book!!! I’m just in the series in Prime called
A Spy Among Friends. The part where
Kim Filby is in court and revealed the secret message on the cigarette paper. It’s so good!!!
Oh I must watch it!
Yet again Shauna you have influenced me to get the bus into town (Oxford ) and purchase another book as I don't to any Internet purchase at all ,just a great interview xx
Hope you enjoy it!
Such a great podcast! Thank you so much.
Just absolutely fascinating. I can imagine this becoming a mini series, there is so much! Absolutly wonderful interview. Thank you Shauna. Please have her on again with her other books.
Great interview Shauna
Sauna, you are a fabulous interviewer. This book sounds fascinating, I may have to buy it.
You won’t be disappointed.
@@thevintageread I know you're hot but I didn't intend to mess up your name, Shauna.
Absolutely fascinating. ❤
Yes! I am a huge fan of Helen Fry!
That video was extraordinary, amazing and interesting.... ETC ETC.
Thankyou for inviting her onto your show. She was the type of historian I really wanted to be but in Australia. 😢 Sadly, it didn't work out to be like that.
😄👍🇦🇺
Awesome
Sip to all...
GREAT interview...I'd also like to see her interviewed on Joe Rogan's podcast. This woman needs to tell these important stories on a wider platform.
Thank you Shauna!
I can't tell you how much I've been looking forward to this interview!
❤🦂❤
So glad!
That was fascinating Shauna, so interesting. I would have loved to have been a Historian - I tend not to regret anything, but if I had one it would be this. I've been researching my family history since 2009... I've gone back to the early 1600s on two lines of my family and it's fascinating. I was always led to believe I came from a long line of Devon folk! Not so, we only go back two generations - We come from Kent, Birmingham, Ireland, the Channel Islands, and France (the French side were Huguenots, Protestants who had to flee France)
Sounds like you are a historian! X
I've been doing the same for my family for the past few years and discovered similar surprises. We thought we were German all the way back but it turns out we're about half-German, half-Scottish/English borderlands, with sprinklings of French and Irish! Nice to find another family genealogist among the Shauna-ettes! (Something that might interest you: there is apparently a genre of genealogy novels which feature mysteries connected to family history so that the main character has to do genealogical research to solve a historical mystery and a present-day problem. I've only read one so far, but it was very interesting!)
Fascinating interview Shauna and Helen!! Thank you. Have you read Charlotte Philby's book, "Edith and Kim"?
No! I will now though
WOW, really brilliant interview, thank you so much!!! Hope she comes back next time...❤❤❤❤❤
I hope so too!
The Tartan Pimpernel By: Donald Caskie is about a Scottish clergyman, during WW11, who also assisted allied servicemen to escape the continent.
Fascinating thanks 😊
Great topic and book. Many women in intelligence positions--dating back to WWII--were hired as "secretaries" but grew their roles within the intel communities.
Wow this is fascinating. Love it.
This was an incredible interview, can't wait to read this book!
Fantastic interview can’t wait to read the book. I just finished reading The Sisterhood and In True Face both about women in the CIA. Many same themes women were better at interrogation and turning agents. In True Face one of the assignments was made into the movie Argo and the agents actually went to the Oscars. I hope Dr Fry will have the same experience.
Yes! That would be brilliant.
Thank you Shauna! This one is going on the list
The list is getting long! 😊😂
@@thevintageread so true
Thank You Shauna For Having Helen On Your Video, Very Interesting and Informative. ❤❤❤.