I’m glad you noticed Mr A kept going to massive watts then dropping. When i saw it in your first video i was so confused as to how and why someone would ride like that. It seems like they tried to pass you but kept stopping. Great breakdown!
This was a great video. Really cool to see a deep dive on this. I think you got the strategy just right. I did this today, and I wish I'd seen this video before. It would have helped. The lesson is watch more Gerben.
Great advice Gerben, did my run this morning and smashed it. Surprised I did almost all the things you advised 😄 My graph was a sea of red and orange. Blow my old FTP away. It's going to make workouts a touch harder now 😂 Worried now I'll get bumped to Cat B if I keep these efforts up 😧
Just tried this route yesterday and it was comfortable on the first climb (able to hold 3.3 w/kg) then soon as I hit the flat section lactate kicked in and made my legs suffer thereby dropping my ftp down to 252
@@RideWithGerben that’s the thing though I was holding it lower Z5 high Z4…once hit the flat (kickr climb was on full) resistance was instantly reduced and I used it to recover slightly. So would you recommend turning off climbing resistance?
Pushing at the end is probably best to complete the climb as quickly as possible, but if using it as a test I'd argue keeping a steady wattage throughout is more relevant. I managed 290W for about 14:30 (similar weight to you) coming off a 2 weeks sick break ; I'll aim for 300 next time.
I also tried to save a bit for the end but then I thought - does a 10% drop in power have a bigger impact on a 13% grade than an 8% grade? Would I have been better putting out more power on the flatter bits?
Yeah. Zwift magic. It takes a formula to your power to get a guesstimation of your FTP. I've read it is based on performances of thousands of Zwifters.
Like Gerben said, it's an estimation of your FTP based on thousands of data points. The calculation falls on a power curve, so for example, if your climb takes 20 minutes your FTP figure will be around 95% of you avg power, if the climb only takes 12 minutes, it might be around 85% of the avg power for the climb (not exact figure, just for example). Gerben took 13 minutes and his estimated FTP was around 87% of his avg power.
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Top tips from a top climber, who is a top rider and most importantly, a top all round bloke! Kudos to you, Gerben! 💪 🚲 👊
Thx Simon! Hope it helps. :D
I’m glad you noticed Mr A kept going to massive watts then dropping. When i saw it in your first video i was so confused as to how and why someone would ride like that. It seems like they tried to pass you but kept stopping. Great breakdown!
Yes! That guy was microbursting and cheating at the same time. Crazy.
This was a great video. Really cool to see a deep dive on this. I think you got the strategy just right.
I did this today, and I wish I'd seen this video before. It would have helped. The lesson is watch more Gerben.
Sometimes I accidentally get it right! LOL! Thx Lee!
Thanks for sharing
Anytime Jeffrey. Thx for watching!
This is great timing and helpful advice. They just scheduled the Grade for next week’s Hill Climb iTT series!
They did? Nice! Thank you for watching!
Great advice Gerben, did my run this morning and smashed it.
Surprised I did almost all the things you advised 😄 My graph was a sea of red and orange. Blow my old FTP away.
It's going to make workouts a touch harder now 😂
Worried now I'll get bumped to Cat B if I keep these efforts up 😧
Congratulations! Ride this well and you are A cat in no time 🤣
Thank you 👍
You are welcome 🙏
Just tried this route yesterday and it was comfortable on the first climb (able to hold 3.3 w/kg) then soon as I hit the flat section lactate kicked in and made my legs suffer thereby dropping my ftp down to 252
Yes. Pace it somewhat slower in the first half. Second half is wayyy steeper. And the surface is snow/ice, so you go slower to enhance the suffering 😅
@@RideWithGerben that’s the thing though I was holding it lower Z5 high Z4…once hit the flat (kickr climb was on full) resistance was instantly reduced and I used it to recover slightly.
So would you recommend turning off climbing resistance?
@@RideWithGerben the way I saw was 2 x 10-12 min blocks
@@BAKPDL No. Gear down a little on the flat bit, try to keep power the same as on the climb.
@@RideWithGerben I was down to gear 4 couldn’t go any lower (leave some gears for recovery) 😂
Pushing at the end is probably best to complete the climb as quickly as possible, but if using it as a test I'd argue keeping a steady wattage throughout is more relevant.
I managed 290W for about 14:30 (similar weight to you) coming off a 2 weeks sick break ; I'll aim for 300 next time.
Yes. Steady power is the best. The flat bit at 1.3k makes it difficult though. So I negative splitted it.
Enjoy the coffee and keep up the good work :)
Many thanks man!!! ☕️☕️☕️☕️
I also tried to save a bit for the end but then I thought - does a 10% drop in power have a bigger impact on a 13% grade than an 8% grade? Would I have been better putting out more power on the flatter bits?
On a light bike like this one I am in camp more power on the steep bits to profit more from the low weight.
How do you think this compares with Alpes du zwift for everesting purposes?
This has the potential to be better. It’s steeper.
Did you adjust your trainer difficulty or did you have it at 100%?
100% hence the grinding 🤣
I didn't get it what is the difference between your average power of 325W and your grade 286W? Anyway, thanks for explanation 🙂
Yeah. Zwift magic. It takes a formula to your power to get a guesstimation of your FTP. I've read it is based on performances of thousands of Zwifters.
Like Gerben said, it's an estimation of your FTP based on thousands of data points. The calculation falls on a power curve, so for example, if your climb takes 20 minutes your FTP figure will be around 95% of you avg power, if the climb only takes 12 minutes, it might be around 85% of the avg power for the climb (not exact figure, just for example). Gerben took 13 minutes and his estimated FTP was around 87% of his avg power.
What is your weight?
72/73 kilograms
@@RideWithGerben Thank nice ride