Occasionally I use the term “destroyer” to refer to destroyer escorts. To be clear, destroyer escorts like USS England were a different, smaller ship class than a destroyer. I apologize for any confusion.
The DE’s, DL’s, and DLG’s were renamed in the mid 1970’s. The DE’s were named “frigate” and the the DL’s and DLG’s were changed from “frigate” to either destroyer or cruiser. I served on to DLG-21 and FFG-51 as well as five other ships.
I am a grandson of gunners mate Ralph S Norman who served on the England for its entire tour. He survived the kamikaze attack with injuries received while helping to empty a burning powder magazine and lived to 84. I own his discharge papers and the Christmas 1944 dinner menu he sent my grandmother. I purchased DOD microfiche on eBay that has the crew rolls including the 34 (eventually 37) sailors killed or missing in action after the attack. Several men were never found. I’ve tried to consume every account of its service and this is the best I’ve ever seen. Thank you so much.
I am the grandson of John Bowness, who also served upon this ship, who also was injured by the kamikaze attack. He actually lived the rest of his life with a few small pieces of shrapnel still embedded within him. He passed away at age 88. Ive had a hard time finding official documentation for this ship, its pretty scarce. If you dont mind me asking, do you have any documentation with my grandfather's name upon it? God bless both our grandfather's and the rest of the men aboard that ship. Take care
@@JoeDiGiovanniIV I have a microfiche of the ship’s rolls which shows routine promotions and demotions as well as the lists of casualties from the attack. I’ll go through my books as well.
Thank you for making this video. The England deserves to be remembered. The engine tag from the Mitsubishi zero that killed half the crew is in my 89 year old grandmother's living room. Its in a case along with my grandfather's presidential unit citation, asiatic campaign medal, victory medal and 6 battle stars. Something tells me the engine tag he pried off that kamikaze meant much much more to him than some kind of souvenir. He died in 2001, but I know there was never a day he didn't think about all those men who died that day. He always was and always will be my hero. Roy L Breeding 1923-2001 USN WWII
I served on board the 2nd USS England and attended the decommissioning ceremony as my last day in the Navy. Some of the original DE 635's crew were also attending the ceremony. I had my WestPack '92 cruise book with me and asked the fellas if they would sign the photo of their ship, pictured in the opening of the cruise book and they happily did, but stated " why would you want some old salts like us sign your book?". I am so thankful and honored that I met these great fellas and that they signed my book.
Thank you for posting Ensign England's photo and in a tasteful moment of silence. I am a vet, these tributes mean so much. As always, History Guy, another great video.
Shout out to the history guy for making small historians everywhere knowledge is power and remembering our history prevents us from making the same mistakes
@@colingibson8018 , come now. I bet we can all name one "office holder" who never read anything more substantial than a cerial box, much less anything useful such as history.
I’d just like to say, I never used to be a lover of history, but your style and presentational skills have me engrossed with every episode. Thank you for continuing to educate me 👍🏻
David Kelley - I think that’s the point, If I just read a book it really wouldn’t excite me enough to see it through. Maybe I should try audio books. 😁
In the proud tradition of the United States Navy. Honor, Courage, Commitment. (Navy Motto) As a proud U.S. NAVY veteran I salute Ensign England and those brave sailors who entered WW2 in a baptism of fire.
@@1337flite well first it was he lost his life being a hero never getting to see his daughter. Then the heroics of the ship, but at the same time all that loss of life because of our governments. Both sides had such brave people and that's all I kept thinking about. would I be able to do that. I love honor and courage above everything else because that is something that I truly believe is more important than anyting. I hope I answered your question😁
Isabelle, well stated. "Greater love has no one than this, than to lay down one`s life for his friends." Especially at the huge expense of never laying eyes on one's own child, or ever seeing one's spouse again. Saving lives in desperate need was more important than his own. Yes, this definitely fills my eyes with tears. The quoted words were spoken by the Lord, right after He commanded us to love one another. It is sad that we have wars...that anyone ever tries to hurt another. But it is also sad to be ruled by tyrants. A dilemma.
@@isabellenicoleherman6816 thank you for your repIy. I thought the daughter never seeing the father was sadder than the father never seeing the daughter. The reason I asked was because war is a pretty sad endevour if you really think about it - as you obviously have, but there were lots of things in that particular episode that could make someone cry, so I thought it interesting that you shared your crying, but wasn't sure which part of the episode made you cry. Thanks again .
My "Papa" and an adopted uncle both served on DE-776, the USS JAMES C OWENS, named for a brave young pilot who died in the Battle of Midway's first carrier attack wave. Papa as a Machinist's Mate, Damage Control Team--Forward 5" Turret during Korea on Atlantic Security Patrol... my uncle as a SOCom Teamsman, Damage Control Team--Forward 5" Turret during Vietnam
Our military has so many stories of valor, courage and duty that we will never know them all, but films like this help us to remember they still exist and are remembered. I served the US Navy and now my grandson has followed in my steps, I salute all our military, present past and future.
I can not justly put this into words but will try. I enjoy your videos immensely, forgotten bits of history indeed. You give honor to people who did great acts at often their own peril. You also give respect to our enemies and events that caused great devestation. By naming the commanders of the Japanese Imperial Fleet you show reverence to all fighting men and women. I live in Virginia and walk through a local cemetery on Memorial Day. Although I do not side with the Confederacy I respect the soldiers resting with Confederate Flags on their graves, they fought for what they believed in regardless of how corrupt the cause may have been. Some day I know someone will pass my grave and question my beliefs as an Iraqi veteran. I hope they too can appreciate the courage needed to defend what you believed to be true.
Nice!!! My grandfather was a gunnery captain on this ship (DE-635). He was injured during the kamikaze attack on them. He survived the war, albeit with shrapnel still lodged within him for the rest of his life.
My dad was on the USS Laws, a Fletcher class destroyer and served in that picket line off Okinawa. He didn't talk much about that period of his duty, except to say that he saw many hits on our ships, luckily his was not touched. Thank you for this great piece, it makes me think of my Dad who passed away at the age of 90 having lived a long and blessed life.
Just to be Anti-American... or a jerk. I have yet to see any video on TH-cam, regardless of quality or subject, that doesn't have some thumbs down on it. I guess it makes them feel big, or important, or that they got something over on someone, or some other moronic 'feeling'... since that's all that's important now days.
The thumbs down could easily be from four-year olds who got this in their recommended while looking for cartoons. Anti-Americans and patriots are not the only two groups that use TH-cam.
Thank you for remembering the USS England. My grandfather served aboard the England and her crew remained close after the war by attending annual reunions. I'll never forget the times I was present when Capt. Williamson called my grandfather, who when handed the phone, would stand and say, "Yes Captain." I had the great pleasure of meeting some of my grandfathers shipmates and it was obvious they shared a timeless bond, along with the wives who gathered when the ship came into port. Thank you
I am never sure which type of THG episode I prefer, but usually I conclude it is whichever type I have just finished watching. .... If I could give this episode 100 thumbs-up I would do so. :)
I'm proud to say that my father, Lt. John L. Slade, served aboard USS Raby (DE-698) as the Gunnery Officer during this well known time with USS England. He had told me the story of the sinking of the Japanese submarines when I was a small boy (I'm now 67 years old). Months after the Hunter Killer action described in this excellent video, in December 1944, he became CO of the Raby, as a 24 year old Lieutenant. In January 1945, operating out of Ulithi and in conjunction with fellow DEs Conklin (DE-439) and Corbesier (DE-438), Raby participated in the sinking of another Japanese Submarine, I-48. While my father was proud of his 27 years of US Navy service, he told me that he felt remorse for the fate of the Japanese sailors who died as a result of those actions. But, he also said that 'In war, you try to kill them before they kill you.'
My father served on the USS Slater DE766 in 1945 and 1946. She was named after Frank Slater KIA. The Slater is a now a museum ship berthed on the Hudson River in Albany NY. My father in his 80’s participated in her restoration several weekends a year. The quality of their work is outstanding. It’s worth the trip for a tour. She’s the last DE afloat in the United States.
I have long been familiar with the incident of the USS England's extraordinarily successful attack on Japanese submarines, but not the background or postscript. It is the addition of the human touch that brings your stories alive and makes them history worth remembering.
Wow - I had chills when that one ended. What a fitting tribute to such a selfless sailor. Thank you for helping us remember our history, and God bless Americal.
I do know about the USS England and her fantastic success as a submarine hunter. Thought I was unaware of how she got her name. She obviously did her namesake proud. The Hedgehog was one of a number of weapons based on the Blacker Bombard Spigot Mortar, which was named after it inventor Lieutenant-Colonel Stewart Blacker. The mortar was also used in the PIAT anti tank weapon and when you see all of those rockets being fired onto the beaches on D-Day from the landing craft, those are spigot mortars. You may wish to look at Captain Frederic John 'Johnnie' Walker' the most successful anti-submarine warfare commander during the Battle of the Atlantic, who tragically died on 7 July 1944 at the age of 48. His death was attributed to overwork and exhaustion because he was so much in demand he never got any R&R.
@@sirbader1 The defining feature of a spigot mortar is that it fits over its launch tube - this permits a much larger warhead. The PIAT was the exception in using springs. Most launchers use a small explosive charge in a large tube. A less well known spigot mortar is the aircraft ejection seat - all but a small number use an explosive charge to separate the seat from the aircraft (the early WW2 German seats used compressed air and the Pilatus PC-9 uses a mortar to deploy the parachute and the parachute pulls the seat out of the aircraft).
The passion & superior historical content, is like none other, in the realm of historical educators. I received my Bachelors in an top 10 university in the US, but none of my professors had the charismatic methodology of educating our alumni, like “The History Guy”. I actually returned to love history again, because of his videos, I didn’t pursue my graduate studies in history because I no longer had the passion, even though I’m 55, I am glad that I’ve returned to history like when I was young, that you history guy.
That’s an astounding feat! Ensign England’s heroic and selfless sacrifice was properly avenged. Here’s to the memory of a brave young man and the ship that carried his name.
Your sponsors should pay you more because the way you present your videos is compelling enough that your viewers can trust they'll find something worth viewing. Please continue making these awesome videos!
I felt blessed living in era where WW1 and WW2 veterans as well as Korean and Vietnam veterans still lived. I had the great honor having known many of these veterans and will never forget them.
I feel the same way. My dad, & all 5 of my uncles, served in WWII. We used to have "show & tell" in grade school. In a 2nd grade class, one boy brought in a Japanese helmet, complete with a .30 caliber bullet hole through it. His father had been a Marine. As a young kid, I had wondered who in the world would want a damaged helmet, a Japanese one at that, then proceeded to promptly forget about it. Many years later, for what ever reason, the memory of that helmet popped back into my head. I realized the significance of that war artifact. Someone had died while wearing that helmet. I don't know if my classmate's father had been the one that fired the shot or not, or if he had just picked up the helmet off of some Pacific battlefield. A young man had gone off to war, fought, survived, returned home, married, & started a family. And that was it. Most vets didn't talk about their combat experiences. To them, they were just doing their duty. May God bless all those who have served, the ones who gave their lives, & to the families who lost their loved ones.
Bravo Zulu! History Guy. Two deployments in the Western Pacific, 1982-1984. An amazing place that I wish more of our young people could visit to see the sacrifices of our warfighters in days of WWII.
Every time I see the story of one of these young men lost in WWII I think about my Grandpa, he was USNR, and worked in Hanford on the construction there, then raised me. RIP all, RIP Dad!
Thank you for highlighting the impressive service of USS England. In the mid-1960s I served on a converted DE, originally commissioned in December 1943, USS Brister DE 327 became DER 327 in the mid-1950s when she was outfitted with enhanced ASW equipment, electronic countermeasures, an aircraft homing beacon and full suite of radar systems. We patrolled most of the major battle sites in the Pacific about 20 years after wwii. Our ship was the same size as England and outfitted with the same armament. When Japan attacked Pearl Harbor my dad was aboard USS Raleigh CL 7 on the NW side of Ford Island and one of the first ships hit by torpedo at 7:55 a.m. and an armor piercing bomb an hour later. Amazingly Raleigh had no fatalities even after taking 2 direct hits. Heroic efforts by her crew kept Raleigh afloat.
There also wasn't one between 45 and the sixties, but the thought counts. Just don't tell the Jarheads, they believe so strongly into the Iwo Jima "guarantee" :-p
Me too my friend. It's one of the first thing I look for when I turn to TH-cam each day. With fine programs such as this I no longer bemone the loss of my umbilical cable.
British technology - Sonar (ASDIC), Hedgehog. Radar and HF/DF (Huff/Duff) for surface targets. Ironic that Admiral King was so anti-british, despite his ancestry.
well done to the England, 6 subs in 12 days which is remarkable :0) thank you history guy another well researched piece of our history that will not be forgotten. ps I live in England, great Britain :0)
During the 1980s, I attended an ASW conference at the Fleet ASW Training Center in San Diego. There were two scale models of ships in the lobby of the conference hall, USS England (DE-635) and USS England (CG-22). These models were still there in 1999-2002 when I lived in the CBQ at Fleet ASW Training Center. OSCS(SW) USN RET'D 1978-2002
The History Guy is beyond amazing. History deserves to be remembered but first it must be learned, and teaching in a captivating way is what History Guy is all about. Thank you.
Up until I found your channel, history held very little interest to me. Now I look forward to every video! Thank you for great videos that continue to educate me.
In a word, OUTSTANDING, Sir! I have been, and surely will continue to be, thoroughly educated in your history snippet offerings. THESE are the activities you rarely hear about, much less learn, although exhaustively researching on your own and for that, I again thank you. Also, as a former US Military NCO (Disabled) I appreciate that you pay Homage to our fallen and, sadly, forgotten Warriors of our past. They, too, deserve to be remembered and you do so in small part and, yet again, I Thank You from the bottom of my Heart. God Bless and..... Overnout
There is no USS England at this time.... I was on board her from May 87 till Sept. 89.... a small group of sailors that served on her have been writing letter requesting another ship to named the England.... so far....no luck...
Where would one go to write a letter for a request like this? I am not in the military (though my dad was in the AF) but I would write a letter requesting for a continuation of the England name.
One of my high school history teachers told our class about her very close ties to Pearl Harbor and the USS Arizona. Her Beau was an Ensign on Arizona on 7 December 1941. He is still aboard and she never married. When I first visited the Arizona Memorial I looked at the names on the Memorial and found her Ensigns name. I wish I could remember it as my wife and I are going back to visit again.
Excellent as always. I was born in 1942 however, my brother, brother in law, and friends of the family, were all all some 20 years older and were deployed in the Air force, Navy, Army, and Marines. All lived through WW2 but little was said about their wartime experiences except to say they had seen so much blood and bodies that they were sickened just thinking about what had to be done. So, I really look forward to your videos as I attempt to put WW2 into perspective considering where technology and inovation has lead the world since that horrible example set forth in the experience of mankind's futile nature of the need for one group to dominate another. And as you often say; "that's history that needs to be remembered ".
Thank you. My papa was aboard this ship and injured from the kamikaze attack, living the rest of his life with some small shrapnel still lodged within him that were too dangerous to remove afterwards
Your videos like this one bring awareness to so much forgotten service and sacrifice that constitutes our history. Thank you for making sure our history is remembered, and you do it in a manner that is very respectful, informative, interesting, and professional. Thank you THG!
No, I well not forgive you. No there is something much worse. A Old Man that that forgets how to cry. There is five actions that give value. Blood, sweat, tears, the risk of death, or death it self. Lt.England, earned much value. And so did her(the U.S.S. England's) crew.
I just signed up for MagellanTV on your recommendation! It was super easy taking no more than two minutes! First month free as you said and took the quarterly payments. Not expensive at all. Thanks History Guy!
Stories like this deepen my pride in serving the Corps for 12 plus years. I remember my Pop saying that we need to give our new country at least four years because we would probably see eighty years here. God Bless America , it’s Military and the way it gave us legal immigrants a chance to succeed
I love this story ! I am especially drawn to naval action in WW2 and am continually humbled by the spirit and dedication of the fighting men on these ships. They were nothing like vessels of todays navy as in creature comforts. Ships of steel, crewed by men of iron will ....let us never forget .
Thank you for telling the story of Ensign England. I wish he had been honored with a Navy Cross or Medal of Honor, but naming the ships after him endures his legacy even further. We could use an Arleigh Burke named after him at this stage.
My high school history teacher had been a Marine who survived the sinking of the USS Arizona and a couple of other HS teachers had served in WWII, as did both my parents and numerous relatives. I grew up with much of that history, but the History guy really puts us right in the action using videos. Thanks for a job well done HG.
My 10th grade English teacher carried Vietnamese shrapnel. Mom said he came over his desk at a few kids early in his teaching career. I almost saw it 18 years later, he caught himself when his chair rolled into the wall.
There is no higher honor the navy can bestow than to name a ship after you. That's why I'm pleased that the next new Ford class carrier will be named after seaman Dorrie Miller. A mess steward who maned a machine gun he had NEVER been trained on and successfully employed it. He would be dead within a yyear...lost off Guadalcanal
...and their last two kills were with their last two available salvos. I guess they had it all figured out. The salvos fired a pattern of 24 projectiles and they were scoring multiple hits with each salvo. They were dropping the pattern right on top of the subs.
This video means a lot to me. One of my college profs, who was more of a mentor and friend, was stationed aboard the Oklahoma when she was attacked at Pearl Harbor.
Pearl Harbor was an event that did not produce the number of decorations that were clearly earned that morning. There were many reasons for this, but I can think of no greater honor than a sailor having a ship named in his honor.
Alas, no one in Hollywood is intelligent enough to watch this channel. So many movies to be made. But, no, Hollywood enjoys "remake number 14" too much to make anything original. Absolutely magnificent, Professor! Thanks for sharing this fantastic history with us!
Thank you for doing justice to a part of history that definitely deserves to be remembered. You have brought light to the bravery, and honor of a true hero.
I have read about USS England's feat in a couple of books. What it accomplished is really something special. To me it proved that the American Spirit of England from the USS Oklahoma was alive and well in that ship. I have believed since the time when I was in High School and read the book about England that its namesake was on that ship until the war was over. You have presented this story magnificently. Good Job. Thanks for bringing it out to everyone again. It is a story that never gets old.
Clearly, the only "England" that he liked. How brave, and how tragic an end for that young ensign and his family. How true that war is "kill or be killed." A history book you, The History Guy, and other subscribers of this series may like is "American Warlords: How Roosevelt's High Command Led America to Victory in World War II" by Jonathan W. Jordan. This book recounts a mixture of history, politics, backroom dealing, the friendly/frenemy relationship between US top military brass and their British counterparts (plus quite a bit of General Marshall's and FDR's opinions concerning Charles de Gaulle) and between each other.
The context of "there will always be an England" was in light of her dwindling power in the international stage. "Don't worry, England, there will always be a place for you at the big table!" "It just won't be your table in your house with your rules any more." For a noted Anglophobe to use this phrase hints at irony, at best.
G'day L, What a marvelous and moving story of retribution for the untimely death of a young family man. The first USS England's performance against Japanese submarines was outstanding and apart from the technological improvements in anti-submarine warfare, this story also underlines the huge importance of codebreaking in all theatres of WW2. Another excellent video albeit a sad one. Thank you. Cheers, BH
"How many men were on that submarine?" Thank you for including that part. It is fine to honor the bravery of our own men. Just remember the bravery of other men who also had wives and daughters, and didn't want to be there.
Steven Pilling , they had no more concern back then for such a historic ship, proving that by scrapping the most famous aircraft carrier of the war because nobody wanted her enough to save her. It is disgusting that they could save newer carriers named after historic ships but the Enterprise was not wanted anymore. The Enterprise was the ONLY carrier in the Pacific fleet to be in at the beginning of the war and fighting right up until it ended. These ships deserved a better fate but they never got it. That's why I refuse to go on board ANY of the carriers still in existence as museum ships. Impressive as their war records may have been NONE of them could compete with the "Big E"!
@@richardcline1337 I'm old enough to remember reading about Enterprise's fate in the paper. I was only six or seven at the time, but I remember there was a lot of emotion over her scrapping. Some big names were involved in the effort to save her, but to no avail. They couldn't raise the necessary money. It's a travesty that she and Saratoga aren't on display right now. They earned the right to survive. I'd say the same for the battleships Washington and Nevada.
Hopefully, this is the right place to make a suggestion for an episode. Being retired from the U.S. Navy, I believe the back story on the "Crossing the Line Ceremony" (i.e., a ship crossing the equator), which was, at times, quite raunchy, but mostly great fun, would be history that deserves to be remembered.
@Amanda B You made some false statements that I would like to correct: 1) I didn't say or imply that anyone (including myself) is, or should be perfect. Not sure where you get that from, nor how that would even be relevant to this issue? 2) You implied that I cannot point out an error without also appreciating the effort that the content creator has made. These are not at all related to each other, nor is it mandatory to exclaim both at the same time. Also, why is it that you think that I don't appreciate it? 3) I didn't "call people out". I pointed out an error. Why would that be insulting or demeaning to anyone, never-mind a Historian so dedicated to accuracy? Speaking plainly about facts cannot possibly be wrong and certainly doesn't require any sugar-coating. I would assume that the content creator would rather know about a mistake, than for us to just pretend it never happened. What kind of world would we live in if all mistakes were just ignored?
I was looking to point out the error, too. I'm sure it was just an "oops" on the video. But I think fixing it requires taking down the whole video and posting it again, all comments lost...not sure. I think Amanda B just misinterpreted your comment and concluded you were being overly critical. Text messages can be misinterpreted. The History Guy probably has some examples of history demonstrating that. On a naval WWII theme, one example might be Admiral Nimitz's message to Admiral Halsey during the Battle of Leyte Gulf. @TheHistoryGuy might want to do an episode on that aspect of the Battle of Leyte Gulf, or on key misinterpreted communications in battles, in general.
I caught it too ! and said now i am confused., because i was a crew member on the USS English (DD 696) when it was a reserve training ship named after Robert English a sub- mariner.
And what you said, Michael Avery, confused me for a bit, too. :) I was thinking, "Wait, Robert English was a sub-mariner?? ... ? ... oh, 'English'! John C England was on the battleship Oklahoma. English vs England. USS England was DE-635 (a Buckley-Class, Destroyer Escort) and USS English was DD-696 (a Sumner-Class Destroyer). Destroyer escorts were mainly anti-submarine duty. Destroyers were multi-purposed...short-range surface-to-surface, anti-aircraft and anti-submarine. A Sumner-class was 2200 tons, 376 ft long and 60,000 horsepower for a max speed of 34 knots. It carried six 5-inch guns. A Buckley-class was 1400 tons, 306 ft long and 12,000 horsepower for a max speed of only 23 knots. It carried only three 3-inch guns, but its Hedgehog and depth charges were really its primary armament, as the story illustrates. BTW, DD-696, USS English, was launched in Feb 1944 and survived all the way to being sunk as an unoccupied target-vessel in Oct 2003, having served in WWII, Korea, Cuban Missile Crisis (and maybe off Vietnam?), and then transferred to the ROC Navy, Taiwan in 1970. The History Guy could probably make dozens and dozens of videos about interesting ships' histories. He's made quite a few already.
Okinawa picket duty had one of the highest rates of casualties of the war, both theaters. Thank you History Guy, this one was in the top 10%. I thoroughly enjoyed it!
Dear HG and Mrs HG I have some items that I would like to send you ie my fathers RAAF cap from 1944 when he and his crew sank U270. Please send contact details because I would really like you to have it and some books.
Occasionally I use the term “destroyer” to refer to destroyer escorts. To be clear, destroyer escorts like USS England were a different, smaller ship class than a destroyer. I apologize for any confusion.
I believe the DDE class is now the frigate class in the us navy.
The DE’s, DL’s, and DLG’s were renamed in the mid 1970’s. The DE’s were named “frigate” and the the DL’s and DLG’s were changed from “frigate” to either destroyer or cruiser.
I served on to DLG-21 and FFG-51 as well as five other ships.
It's safe to say DE England showed her DD sisters how to do the job, and neither would be upset at mixing up the ship types.
@@martinwalker9386 thank you sir
I am a grandson of gunners mate Ralph S Norman who served on the England for its entire tour. He survived the kamikaze attack with injuries received while helping to empty a burning powder magazine and lived to 84. I own his discharge papers and the Christmas 1944 dinner menu he sent my grandmother. I purchased DOD microfiche on eBay that has the crew rolls including the 34 (eventually 37) sailors killed or missing in action after the attack. Several men were never found. I’ve tried to consume every account of its service and this is the best I’ve ever seen.
Thank you so much.
I am the grandson of John Bowness, who also served upon this ship, who also was injured by the kamikaze attack. He actually lived the rest of his life with a few small pieces of shrapnel still embedded within him. He passed away at age 88. Ive had a hard time finding official documentation for this ship, its pretty scarce. If you dont mind me asking, do you have any documentation with my grandfather's name upon it? God bless both our grandfather's and the rest of the men aboard that ship. Take care
@@JoeDiGiovanniIV I have a microfiche of the ship’s rolls which shows routine promotions and demotions as well as the lists of casualties from the attack. I’ll go through my books as well.
@@indiefab thank you so much. Really. Thank yoy
Thank you for making this video. The England deserves to be remembered. The engine tag from the Mitsubishi zero that killed half the crew is in my 89 year old grandmother's living room. Its in a case along with my grandfather's presidential unit citation, asiatic campaign medal, victory medal and 6 battle stars. Something tells me the engine tag he pried off that kamikaze meant much much more to him than some kind of souvenir. He died in 2001, but I know there was never a day he didn't think about all those men who died that day. He always was and always will be my hero.
Roy L Breeding
1923-2001
USN WWII
I served on board the 2nd USS England and attended the decommissioning ceremony as my last day in the Navy. Some of the original DE 635's crew were also attending the ceremony. I had my WestPack '92 cruise book with me and asked the fellas if they would sign the photo of their ship, pictured in the opening of the cruise book and they happily did, but stated " why would you want some old salts like us sign your book?". I am so thankful and honored that I met these great fellas and that they signed my book.
I was a 3rd class Petty Officer Radioman on the USS England CG-22 from 1976-79
Thanks for protecting my freedom.
God Bless you and all who have served. America would not be here without you.
Thank you shipmate
What feelings or memories did this episode bring up for you?
Did the USN teach you the history of your ship's namesake?
Thank you for posting Ensign England's photo and in a tasteful moment of silence. I am a vet, these tributes mean so much. As always, History Guy, another great video.
I regret to report there is a typo in the name on the tribute photo. It says "English" not "England."
Please fix.
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@@SamTheEnglishTeacher veteran....
@@joeh4295 Pffff how many animals did you save?
@@SamTheEnglishTeacher stopped counting a few years ago
Shout out to the history guy for making small historians everywhere knowledge is power and remembering our history prevents us from making the same mistakes
Shame the stupid politicans never took history at school.
@@colingibson8018 Honestly, they probably did, but only the wisest of Politicians, decide to remember it.....
@@knightlife98 .. Yes Scott that's probably more like the truth.. As I said stupid. Believe me I am being very polite.
@@colingibson8018 , come now. I bet we can all name one "office holder" who never read anything more substantial than a cerial box, much less anything useful such as history.
@@davidkelley6972 ..... Oh how true that is!!!!.
The history guy went from being a historian to a national treasure.
I’d just like to say, I never used to be a lover of history, but your style and presentational skills have me engrossed with every episode. Thank you for continuing to educate me 👍🏻
Exactly!
Sounds like THG is the first decent history teacher you have had. Try some books about historical events that interest you. Good hunting!
Agreed, he does it SO well.
David Kelley - I think that’s the point, If I just read a book it really wouldn’t excite me enough to see it through. Maybe I should try audio books. 😁
@@GaryGough na... just like and subscribe and you'll get a daily history lesson without the paper cuts!
In the proud tradition of the United States Navy.
Honor, Courage, Commitment. (Navy Motto) As a proud U.S. NAVY veteran I salute Ensign England and those brave sailors who entered WW2 in a baptism of fire.
George B thank you for serving sir.
Yes. Thank you - from my family.
Yes. Thank you - from my family.
Thank you for your service George.
Thank you for serving!
Another excellent worthwhile opportunity to learn more about the battles and sacrifices of our GREATEST GENERATION.
I only cried at one other episode. Today you made me ball like I was a baby. This was a very good episode. Thank you
Isabelle Herman none of my business, but if you don’t mind me asking, what part made you cry?
@@1337flite well first it was he lost his life being a hero never getting to see his daughter. Then the heroics of the ship, but at the same time all that loss of life because of our governments. Both sides had such brave people and that's all I kept thinking about. would I be able to do that. I love honor and courage above everything else because that is something that I truly believe is more important than anyting. I hope I answered your question😁
Isabelle, well stated. "Greater love has no one than this, than to lay down one`s life for his friends." Especially at the huge expense of never laying eyes on one's own child, or ever seeing one's spouse again. Saving lives in desperate need was more important than his own. Yes, this definitely fills my eyes with tears. The quoted words were spoken by the Lord, right after He commanded us to love one another. It is sad that we have wars...that anyone ever tries to hurt another. But it is also sad to be ruled by tyrants. A dilemma.
@@isabellenicoleherman6816 thank you for your repIy.
I thought the daughter never seeing the father was sadder than the father never seeing the daughter.
The reason I asked was because war is a pretty sad endevour if you really think about it - as you obviously have, but there were lots of things in that particular episode that could make someone cry, so I thought it interesting that you shared your crying, but wasn't sure which part of the episode made you cry.
Thanks again .
@@1337flite I never miss a episode and this one did hit all the buttons. Plus the way he spoke made it more powerful.
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Thank you for making me aware of Ensign England's great heroism, and the fascinating story of the ship bearing his name.
My "Papa" and an adopted uncle both served on DE-776, the USS JAMES C OWENS, named for a brave young pilot who died in the Battle of Midway's first carrier attack wave. Papa as a Machinist's Mate, Damage Control Team--Forward 5" Turret during Korea on Atlantic Security Patrol... my uncle as a SOCom Teamsman, Damage Control Team--Forward 5" Turret during Vietnam
I served aboard the USS England (CG-22) from 1981 to 1984. She was an amazing ship with a proud history.
Thank you for your service!
Thank you for my freedom!
Thank you shipmate
My nephew, Dale Shelton served aboard the USS England as you, Mr. Steward. Thank you, for your service.
Thank you for your service shipmate.
Our military has so many stories of valor, courage and duty that we will never know them all, but films like this help us to remember they still exist and are remembered. I served the US Navy and now my grandson has followed in my steps, I salute all our military, present past and future.
I can not justly put this into words but will try. I enjoy your videos immensely, forgotten bits of history indeed. You give honor to people who did great acts at often their own peril. You also give respect to our enemies and events that caused great devestation. By naming the commanders of the Japanese Imperial Fleet you show reverence to all fighting men and women.
I live in Virginia and walk through a local cemetery on Memorial Day. Although I do not side with the Confederacy I respect the soldiers resting with Confederate Flags on their graves, they fought for what they believed in regardless of how corrupt the cause may have been.
Some day I know someone will pass my grave and question my beliefs as an Iraqi veteran. I hope they too can appreciate the courage needed to defend what you believed to be true.
I believe you did a fine job stating the ideals of the history guy and all who have taken up arms defence of their own beliefs .
I for one will never question your beliefs, thank you for serving us.
Very well said.
Bravo. Any History Guy episode is a welcome sight, but a History Guy episode about a tin can is a true gem. Bravo Zulu History Guy.
RIP Ensign England John 15:13: "Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.
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My grandfather was the Capt of the USS England CG-22, after its shakedown cruise, 1964-65. Great video History Guy. Thanks once again.
Nice!!! My grandfather was a gunnery captain on this ship (DE-635). He was injured during the kamikaze attack on them. He survived the war, albeit with shrapnel still lodged within him for the rest of his life.
My dad was on the USS Laws, a Fletcher class destroyer and served in that picket line off Okinawa. He didn't talk much about that period of his duty, except to say that he saw many hits on our ships, luckily his was not touched. Thank you for this great piece, it makes me think of my Dad who passed away at the age of 90 having lived a long and blessed life.
It amazes me that people actually "thumbs down" these vids. I hope you don't take it personally; the rest of us think your stuff is great. Thanks.
Maybe it was some Japanese fellas that gave thumbs down😂😂
How could anyone give this a thumbs down?? It was one of the best presentations so far by History Guy. Kudos!! A great and poignant story.
Just to be Anti-American... or a jerk. I have yet to see any video on TH-cam, regardless of quality or subject, that doesn't have some thumbs down on it. I guess it makes them feel big, or important, or that they got something over on someone, or some other moronic 'feeling'... since that's all that's important now days.
Don F - You are spot on there.
The thumbs down could easily be from four-year olds who got this in their recommended while looking for cartoons. Anti-Americans and patriots are not the only two groups that use TH-cam.
Thank you for remembering the USS England. My grandfather served aboard the England and her crew remained close after the war by attending annual reunions. I'll never forget the times I was present when Capt. Williamson called my grandfather, who when handed the phone, would stand and say, "Yes Captain." I had the great pleasure of meeting some of my grandfathers shipmates and it was obvious they shared a timeless bond, along with the wives who gathered when the ship came into port. Thank you
I am never sure which type of THG episode I prefer, but usually I conclude it is whichever type I have just finished watching. .... If I could give this episode 100 thumbs-up I would do so. :)
Very moving episode. Yet another one. Bless that man and ship and crew.
I'm proud to say that my father, Lt. John L. Slade, served aboard USS Raby (DE-698) as the Gunnery Officer during this well known time with USS England. He had told me the story of the sinking of the Japanese submarines when I was a small boy (I'm now 67 years old). Months after the Hunter Killer action described in this excellent video, in December 1944, he became CO of the Raby, as a 24 year old Lieutenant. In January 1945, operating out of Ulithi and in conjunction with fellow DEs Conklin (DE-439) and Corbesier (DE-438), Raby participated in the sinking of another Japanese Submarine, I-48. While my father was proud of his 27 years of US Navy service, he told me that he felt remorse for the fate of the Japanese sailors who died as a result of those actions. But, he also said that 'In war, you try to kill them before they kill you.'
My father served on the USS Slater DE766 in 1945 and 1946. She was named after Frank Slater KIA. The Slater is a now a museum ship berthed on the Hudson River in Albany NY. My father in his 80’s participated in her restoration several weekends a year. The quality of their work is outstanding. It’s worth the trip for a tour. She’s the last DE afloat in the United States.
I have long been familiar with the incident of the USS England's extraordinarily successful attack on Japanese submarines, but not the background or postscript. It is the addition of the human touch that brings your stories alive and makes them history worth remembering.
Wow - I had chills when that one ended. What a fitting tribute to such a selfless sailor. Thank you for helping us remember our history, and God bless Americal.
I do know about the USS England and her fantastic success as a submarine hunter. Thought I was unaware of how she got her name. She obviously did her namesake proud.
The Hedgehog was one of a number of weapons based on the Blacker Bombard Spigot Mortar, which was named after it inventor Lieutenant-Colonel Stewart Blacker. The mortar was also used in the PIAT anti tank weapon and when you see all of those rockets being fired onto the beaches on D-Day from the landing craft, those are spigot mortars.
You may wish to look at Captain Frederic John 'Johnnie' Walker' the most successful anti-submarine warfare commander during the Battle of the Atlantic, who tragically died on 7 July 1944 at the age of 48. His death was attributed to overwork and exhaustion because he was so much in demand he never got any R&R.
I was going to ask about a piece on Walker, his changes to ASW tactics made a hell of a difference!
R and R?
@@The_FatGeneral Rest & Recreation. In the States we would say Shore Leave.
Spigot mortars don't use rockets, they use springs.
@@sirbader1 The defining feature of a spigot mortar is that it fits over its launch tube - this permits a much larger warhead. The PIAT was the exception in using springs. Most launchers use a small explosive charge in a large tube.
A less well known spigot mortar is the aircraft ejection seat - all but a small number use an explosive charge to separate the seat from the aircraft (the early WW2 German seats used compressed air and the Pilatus PC-9 uses a mortar to deploy the parachute and the parachute pulls the seat out of the aircraft).
The passion & superior historical content, is like none other, in the realm of historical educators. I received my Bachelors in an top 10 university in the US, but none of my professors had the charismatic methodology of educating our alumni, like “The History Guy”. I actually returned to love history again, because of his videos, I didn’t pursue my graduate studies in history because I no longer had the passion, even though I’m 55, I am glad that I’ve returned to history like when I was young, that you history guy.
That’s an astounding feat! Ensign England’s heroic and selfless sacrifice was properly avenged. Here’s to the memory of a brave young man and the ship that carried his name.
That would be two Ships. There was another named after him later.
Your sponsors should pay you more because the way you present your videos is compelling enough that your viewers can trust they'll find something worth viewing. Please continue making these awesome videos!
I felt blessed living in era where WW1 and WW2 veterans as well as Korean and Vietnam veterans still lived. I had the great honor having known many of these veterans and will never forget them.
I feel the same way. My dad, & all 5 of my uncles, served in WWII. We used to have "show & tell" in grade school. In a 2nd grade class, one boy brought in a Japanese helmet, complete with a .30 caliber bullet hole through it. His father had been a Marine. As a young kid, I had wondered who in the world would want a damaged helmet, a Japanese one at that, then proceeded to promptly forget about it. Many years later, for what ever reason, the memory of that helmet popped back into my head. I realized the significance of that war artifact. Someone had died while wearing that helmet. I don't know if my classmate's father had been the one that fired the shot or not, or if he had just picked up the helmet off of some Pacific battlefield. A young man had gone off to war, fought, survived, returned home, married, & started a family. And that was it. Most vets didn't talk about their combat experiences. To them, they were just doing their duty. May God bless all those who have served, the ones who gave their lives, & to the families who lost their loved ones.
"Oh hell, go ahead England." Glorious.
Long live the honoured memory of Ensign John Charles England.
As he should be remembered. Bless him.
Bravo Zulu! History Guy. Two deployments in the Western Pacific, 1982-1984. An amazing place that I wish more of our young people could visit to see the sacrifices of our warfighters in days of WWII.
THG, that episode gave me chills. Thank you for all you do!
Every time I see the story of one of these young men lost in WWII I think about my Grandpa, he was USNR, and worked in Hanford on the construction there, then raised me. RIP all, RIP Dad!
Well done, England.
Ensign, ship and country
Well done.
I truly hope his Widow and Daughter were informed of the History of USS England's sacrifice and Brave and Successful service to our country!
These videos are simply superb, outstanding, amazing, top-notch, you name it.
Thank you for highlighting the impressive service of USS England. In the mid-1960s I served on a converted DE, originally commissioned in December 1943, USS Brister DE 327 became DER 327 in the mid-1950s when she was outfitted with enhanced ASW equipment, electronic countermeasures, an aircraft homing beacon and full suite of radar systems. We patrolled most of the major battle sites in the Pacific about 20 years after wwii.
Our ship was the same size as England and outfitted with the same armament.
When Japan attacked Pearl Harbor my dad was aboard USS Raleigh CL 7 on the NW side of Ford Island and one of the first ships hit by torpedo at 7:55 a.m. and an armor piercing bomb an hour later. Amazingly Raleigh had no fatalities even after taking 2 direct hits. Heroic efforts by her crew kept Raleigh afloat.
"There'll always be an England in the United States Navy." Except there hasn't been one since 1994. That's a mistake that needs to be corrected.
There also wasn't one between 45 and the sixties, but the thought counts.
Just don't tell the Jarheads, they believe so strongly into the Iwo Jima "guarantee" :-p
I think he was making a play on words, as a popular song during the war was "There'll Always be an England".
This brought tears to my eyes. Such brave men. Thank-you.
Amazing performance! A destroyer Ace.
Thank you for your wonderful, informative show........bringing these incredible stories to the masses.
As always, another excellent episode from the History Guy~!
I always look forward to them.
Me too my friend. It's one of the first thing I look for when I turn to TH-cam each day. With fine programs such as this I no longer bemone the loss of my umbilical cable.
Your moment of silence for Ensign England brought me to tears. Well done History Guy.
"Gaed Darnit, how do you do it?!" - I knew that was coming..lol
British technology - Sonar (ASDIC), Hedgehog. Radar and HF/DF (Huff/Duff) for surface targets.
Ironic that Admiral King was so anti-british, despite his ancestry.
You still make history personal. Thank you for that. It means a lot to those who love history. RIP Ensign England.
well done to the England, 6 subs in 12 days which is remarkable :0) thank you history guy another well researched piece of our history that will not be forgotten. ps I live in England, great Britain :0)
During the 1980s, I attended an ASW conference at the Fleet ASW Training Center in San Diego. There were two scale models of ships in the lobby of the conference hall, USS England (DE-635) and USS England (CG-22). These models were still there in 1999-2002 when I lived in the CBQ at Fleet ASW Training Center. OSCS(SW) USN RET'D 1978-2002
A big thumbs up I love hearing about heroes during the World War please keep it up you do a great job
The History Guy is beyond amazing. History deserves to be remembered but first it must be learned, and teaching in a captivating way is what History Guy is all about. Thank you.
Up until I found your channel, history held very little interest to me. Now I look forward to every video! Thank you for great videos that continue to educate me.
In a word, OUTSTANDING, Sir!
I have been, and surely will continue to be, thoroughly educated in your history snippet offerings.
THESE are the activities you rarely hear about, much less learn, although exhaustively researching on your own and for that, I again thank you.
Also, as a former US Military NCO (Disabled) I appreciate that you pay Homage to our fallen and, sadly, forgotten Warriors of our past.
They, too, deserve to be remembered and you do so in small part and, yet again, I Thank You from the bottom of my Heart.
God Bless and.....
Overnout
There is no USS England at this time.... I was on board her from May 87 till Sept. 89.... a small group of sailors that served on her have been writing letter requesting another ship to named the England.... so far....no luck...
Where would one go to write a letter for a request like this? I am not in the military (though my dad was in the AF) but I would write a letter requesting for a continuation of the England name.
You might try the Secretary of the Navy, even our POTUS.
Your Productions and your Narrations are OUTSTANDING. Thank you History Guy - Thank you VERY much.
Wonderfully told, may God have mercy on all who died. Fr D
AMEN
Thank u for bringing us this story of an American soldier who showed courage and selflessness.
A very sad start. As they say "War is Hell". Rather than have a ship named after me. I would have preferred to meet my new daughter.
I'm sure he would have had it the same way until that pesky sneak attack! I know what you're saying though, it is hell indeed.
He saved three men so that they could meet their daughters.
Alas.
One of my high school history teachers told our class about her very close ties to Pearl Harbor and the USS Arizona. Her Beau was an Ensign on Arizona on 7 December 1941. He is still aboard and she never married. When I first visited the Arizona Memorial I looked at the names on the Memorial and found her Ensigns name. I wish I could remember it as my wife and I are going back to visit again.
Excellent as always. I was born in 1942 however, my brother, brother in law, and friends of the family, were all all some 20 years older and were deployed in the Air force, Navy, Army, and Marines. All lived through WW2 but little was said about their wartime experiences except to say they had seen so much blood and bodies that they were sickened just thinking about what had to be done. So, I really look forward to your videos as I attempt to put WW2 into perspective considering where technology and inovation has lead the world since that horrible example set forth in the experience of mankind's futile nature of the need for one group to dominate another. And as you often say; "that's history that needs to be remembered ".
Rest In Peace, Ensign England and men of the U.S.S England.
Thank you. My papa was aboard this ship and injured from the kamikaze attack, living the rest of his life with some small shrapnel still lodged within him that were too dangerous to remove afterwards
Your videos like this one bring awareness to so much forgotten service and sacrifice that constitutes our history. Thank you for making sure our history is remembered, and you do it in a manner that is very respectful, informative, interesting, and professional. Thank you THG!
Could y'all kindly ignore me for a moment....
'cos there ain't nothin' worse than seein' an old man weep.
Thanks/No thanks, THG....
No, I well not forgive you.
No there is something much worse.
A Old Man that that forgets how to cry.
There is five actions that give value. Blood, sweat, tears, the risk of death, or death it self.
Lt.England, earned much value. And so did her(the U.S.S. England's) crew.
Never apologize for honest tears of emotion, it means you are Human!
Mind if I join you? We all, old and young, male and female should shed tears for the sacrifice of those who served and gave all for us.
@@suewatkins9610 please feel free to :)
I just signed up for MagellanTV on your recommendation! It was super easy taking no more than two minutes! First month free as you said and took the quarterly payments. Not expensive at all. Thanks History Guy!
Stories like this deepen my pride in serving the Corps for 12 plus years.
I remember my Pop saying that we need to give our new country at least four years because we would probably see eighty years here.
God Bless America , it’s Military and the way it gave us legal immigrants a chance to succeed
Thank you for your service!
I love this story ! I am especially drawn to naval action in WW2 and am continually humbled by the spirit and dedication of the fighting men on these ships. They were nothing like vessels of todays navy as in creature comforts. Ships of steel, crewed by men of iron will ....let us never forget .
Thank you for telling the story of Ensign England. I wish he had been honored with a Navy Cross or Medal of Honor, but naming the ships after him endures his legacy even further. We could use an Arleigh Burke named after him at this stage.
It's almost criminal he wasn't awarded a Navy Cross
My high school history teacher had been a Marine who survived the sinking of the USS Arizona and a couple of other HS teachers had served in WWII, as did both my parents and numerous relatives. I grew up with much of that history, but the History guy really puts us right in the action using videos. Thanks for a job well done HG.
My 10th grade English teacher carried Vietnamese shrapnel. Mom said he came over his desk at a few kids early in his teaching career.
I almost saw it 18 years later, he caught himself when his chair rolled into the wall.
Great man, great history. Oh, and England was great too.
😉👍
Thank you T.H.G.!
What a great way to honour a sailor, naming a ship after him. This was a great story, thank you for putting it together.
There is no higher honor the navy can bestow than to name a ship after you. That's why I'm pleased that the next new Ford class carrier will be named after seaman Dorrie Miller. A mess steward who maned a machine gun he had NEVER been trained on and successfully employed it. He would be dead within a yyear...lost off Guadalcanal
@@philgiglio7922 you might also be interested in the story of Teddy Sheean VC and HMAS Yarra.
His Daughter's name was Tora? Even if it wasn't the same spelling, what a fateful coincidence
"Tora" was a nick-name for Victoria
@@TheHistoryGuyChannel oh very interesting! Victoria is a common name, but that is funny that his name was England.
Interesting coincidence! I never thought of that.
@@TheHistoryGuyChannel,
"Tora, Tora, Tora."
steve
@@artificernathaniel3287 There's another American gentleman named Englund (spelling) who enjoyed a long career as a glove wearing movie slasher.
This is probably the best episode of the history guy that I have ever watched.
13:25 - "Goddamnit! How do you do it?" lol, the same could be asked of THG! Outstanding story.
...and their last two kills were with their last two available salvos. I guess they had it all figured out. The salvos fired a pattern of 24 projectiles and they were scoring multiple hits with each salvo. They were dropping the pattern right on top of the subs.
This video means a lot to me. One of my college profs, who was more of a mentor and friend, was stationed aboard the Oklahoma when she was attacked at Pearl Harbor.
Love these episodes, especially since you give the history of the ship's namesake. Do you know if Ensign England was posthumously decorated?
The ship was named in his honor. And a Purple heart for being KiA.
Only with the Purple Heart. While that is and honor, it sure feels like he should have gotten a combat bravery award as well.
@@TheHistoryGuyChannel I hope he received an even better reward in the end.
Pearl Harbor was an event that did not produce the number of decorations that were clearly earned that morning.
There were many reasons for this, but I can think of no greater honor than a sailor having a ship named in his honor.
The story of the German Raider Atlantis is also a fascinating story worth remembering...
"In the twelve days of England, USN sent to me..."
Alright, I'm leaving... Sorry... Though Ensign England's fate was tragic...
Genesis Fradejas took me a second... I’m guilty... that was funny!!!
5 hedgehog rings
Six sonars pinging!!!
Alas, no one in Hollywood is intelligent enough to watch this channel. So many movies to be made. But, no, Hollywood enjoys "remake number 14" too much to make anything original.
Absolutely magnificent, Professor! Thanks for sharing this fantastic history with us!
A documentary of the USS Indianapolis fiasco would be very much appreciated.
montwolfman there is a movie about it
montwolfman with Nicholas Cage
@@alexalexyou4406 I had no idea. Thanks. I read a book about her. Don't remember the title.
Thank you for doing justice to a part of history that definitely deserves to be remembered. You have brought light to the bravery, and honor of a true hero.
Do a video on the USS Liberty incident that happened in 1967.
Every other week requests for the same topic are annoying. It a dead topic and political issue.
@@WALTERBROADDUS agreed. Just a terrible deal no matter what/who the circumstances.
@@nbt3663 The event was terrible. The weekly requests are just folks on a Anti Israel agenda kick. It's getting old.
@@WALTERBROADDUS yes. I agree the subject is toxic.
Bull...it is history that should be remembered...
My father served on the USS England during the Vietnam war. It was a pleasure to hear of the history of this ship.
The USS England. Sub Killa. Nuff Said.
I have read about USS England's feat in a couple of books. What it accomplished is really something special. To me it proved that the American Spirit of England from the USS Oklahoma was alive and well in that ship. I have believed since the time when I was in High School and read the book about England that its namesake was on that ship until the war was over. You have presented this story magnificently. Good Job. Thanks for bringing it out to everyone again. It is a story that never gets old.
It would be interesting to know what happened to the fellow crew men he saved. Especially the guy he switched shifts with.
This is a story well-told. You really did it justice. 👍🏽
It is somewhat ironic that Admiral King, a notorious anglophobe, would say that.
Clearly, the only "England" that he liked. How brave, and how tragic an end for that young ensign and his family. How true that war is "kill or be killed."
A history book you, The History Guy, and other subscribers of this series may like is "American Warlords: How Roosevelt's High Command Led America to Victory in World War II" by Jonathan W. Jordan. This book recounts a mixture of history, politics, backroom dealing, the friendly/frenemy relationship between US top military brass and their British counterparts (plus quite a bit of General Marshall's and FDR's opinions concerning Charles de Gaulle) and between each other.
The context of "there will always be an England" was in light of her dwindling power in the international stage.
"Don't worry, England, there will always be a place for you at the big table!"
"It just won't be your table in your house with your rules any more."
For a noted Anglophobe to use this phrase hints at irony, at best.
G'day L, What a marvelous and moving story of retribution for the untimely death of a young family man. The first USS England's performance against Japanese submarines was outstanding and apart from the technological improvements in anti-submarine warfare, this story also underlines the huge importance of codebreaking in all theatres of WW2. Another excellent video albeit a sad one. Thank you. Cheers, BH
"How many men were on that submarine?"
Thank you for including that part.
It is fine to honor the bravery of our own men. Just remember the bravery of other men who also had wives and daughters, and didn't want to be there.
Your History Telling is superb. Often I try to surf by your channel, 'cause I know I'll be with you an extra hour... Your England episode was superb.
It's too bad she was scrapped. England would have been a treasured memorial for any port city in America.
Steven Pilling
, they had no more concern back then for such a historic ship, proving that by scrapping the most famous aircraft carrier of the war because nobody wanted her enough to save her. It is disgusting that they could save newer carriers named after historic ships but the Enterprise was not wanted anymore. The Enterprise was the ONLY carrier in the Pacific fleet to be in at the beginning of the war and fighting right up until it ended. These ships deserved a better fate but they never got it. That's why I refuse to go on board ANY of the carriers still in existence as museum ships. Impressive as their war records may have been NONE of them could compete with the "Big E"!
@@richardcline1337 I'm old enough to remember reading about Enterprise's fate in the paper. I was only six or seven at the time, but I remember there was a lot of emotion over her scrapping. Some big names were involved in the effort to save her, but to no avail. They couldn't raise the necessary money. It's a travesty that she and Saratoga aren't on display right now. They earned the right to survive. I'd say the same for the battleships Washington and Nevada.
Hopefully, this is the right place to make a suggestion for an episode.
Being retired from the U.S. Navy, I believe the back story on the "Crossing the Line Ceremony" (i.e., a ship crossing the equator), which was, at times, quite raunchy, but mostly great fun, would be history that deserves to be remembered.
15:06 = Spotted a very important typo. The man's last name was "England", not "English".
Yes I spotted that too. Hopefully it can be edited without taking down the video
@Amanda B You made some false statements that I would like to correct:
1) I didn't say or imply that anyone (including myself) is, or should be perfect. Not sure where you get that from, nor how that would even be relevant to this issue?
2) You implied that I cannot point out an error without also appreciating the effort that the content creator has made. These are not at all related to each other, nor is it mandatory to exclaim both at the same time. Also, why is it that you think that I don't appreciate it?
3) I didn't "call people out". I pointed out an error. Why would that be insulting or demeaning to anyone, never-mind a Historian so dedicated to accuracy? Speaking plainly about facts cannot possibly be wrong and certainly doesn't require any sugar-coating. I would assume that the content creator would rather know about a mistake, than for us to just pretend it never happened. What kind of world would we live in if all mistakes were just ignored?
I was looking to point out the error, too. I'm sure it was just an "oops" on the video. But I think fixing it requires taking down the whole video and posting it again, all comments lost...not sure. I think Amanda B just misinterpreted your comment and concluded you were being overly critical. Text messages can be misinterpreted. The History Guy probably has some examples of history demonstrating that. On a naval WWII theme, one example might be Admiral Nimitz's message to Admiral Halsey during the Battle of Leyte Gulf. @TheHistoryGuy might want to do an episode on that aspect of the Battle of Leyte Gulf, or on key misinterpreted communications in battles, in general.
I caught it too ! and said now i am confused., because i was a crew member on the USS
English (DD 696) when it was a reserve training ship named after Robert English a sub-
mariner.
And what you said, Michael Avery, confused me for a bit, too. :) I was thinking, "Wait, Robert English was a sub-mariner?? ... ? ... oh, 'English'! John C England was on the battleship Oklahoma. English vs England. USS England was DE-635 (a Buckley-Class, Destroyer Escort) and USS English was DD-696 (a Sumner-Class Destroyer). Destroyer escorts were mainly anti-submarine duty. Destroyers were multi-purposed...short-range surface-to-surface, anti-aircraft and anti-submarine.
A Sumner-class was 2200 tons, 376 ft long and 60,000 horsepower for a max speed of 34 knots. It carried six 5-inch guns.
A Buckley-class was 1400 tons, 306 ft long and 12,000 horsepower for a max speed of only 23 knots. It carried only three 3-inch guns, but its Hedgehog and depth charges were really its primary armament, as the story illustrates.
BTW, DD-696, USS English, was launched in Feb 1944 and survived all the way to being sunk as an unoccupied target-vessel in Oct 2003, having served in WWII, Korea, Cuban Missile Crisis (and maybe off Vietnam?), and then transferred to the ROC Navy, Taiwan in 1970.
The History Guy could probably make dozens and dozens of videos about interesting ships' histories. He's made quite a few already.
You sir is what makes history a great to pass the evening away verses watching " the news". ⚜
BZ History Guy.
Okinawa picket duty had one of the highest rates of casualties of the war, both theaters. Thank you History Guy, this one was in the top 10%. I thoroughly enjoyed it!
Dear HG and Mrs HG I have some items that I would like to send you ie my fathers RAAF cap from 1944 when he and his crew sank U270.
Please send contact details because I would really like you to have it and some books.
Please send us a note to thehistoryguyyt@gmail.com
This is my personal favorite .. what a story, & history is the best kind of story..