Martin's Experience Managing Schizophrenia Without Medication

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  • Lauren sits down with Martin to discuss his experience managing his schizophrenia without the use of medications.
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  • @LivingWellwithSchizophrenia
    @LivingWellwithSchizophrenia  2 ปีที่แล้ว +130

    We specifically discuss in this video the importance of consulting with your psychiatrist before going off of any medications, and to consult with your psychiatrist if you are wanting to reduce or go off of medication, and work collaboratively with them to do so. We do not recommend adjusting medication or going off medication without the supervision of your psychiatrist.

    • @mikemetague7973
      @mikemetague7973 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Really appreciate this perspective! I've frequently been a "noncompliant" patient, and I've had diazepam in the past. I've enjoyed too much sleepiness and lack of inhibition with benzos. I've 40 yrs exp. w/SSRIs, but none w/ tricyclics like amitriptyline. I believe the SSRIs work real well for me, but it took me a while to conclude that. With wide-spectrum idiopathy, it's not one size fits all though.

    • @JacobPlat
      @JacobPlat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Ririn Muttaqien I doubt she speaks Indonesian.

    • @JacobPlat
      @JacobPlat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Ririn Muttaqien I don' t know but here we have a feature automatic translation. It is not very good because it is done by a computer and I don't know if it is supported by all videos.

    • @Burevestnik9M730
      @Burevestnik9M730 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      here is a real, typical SZ:
      th-cam.com/video/dPO61Dj9ktU/w-d-xo.html
      Easy cases are extremely rare.

    • @jaynpenny
      @jaynpenny 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I very much agree with discussing it with professionals and thinking a lot about the decision of trying to stop meds and I wish everyone the best of life with whatever they choose and I pray for only success for everyone.

  • @enoch4499
    @enoch4499 2 ปีที่แล้ว +271

    I am treatment resistant so I've had to find ways to cope without meds. Homeopathics, natural/herbal medicine and music therapy have been my preferred method. Also, talking about the symptoms/not keeping it to myself helps a lot.

    • @BeingBetter
      @BeingBetter 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I treat my bipolar 1 with natural and herbal treatments and it works very well. Lithium orotate is the best thing for me.

    • @galatea742
      @galatea742 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      I’m treatment resistant too and not a single antipsychotic that I’ve tried has worked for me, I rely heavily on therapy and reducing as much stress as possible. I think I’m doing ok now though off the antipsychotics!

    • @NEMOPMORPHY
      @NEMOPMORPHY 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Talking is the most important thing!
      To hear is to heal
      To care is to cure
      To see is to save
      Talk therapy has been the greatest relief to my mental stresses!

    • @3OHT.
      @3OHT. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      I cannot function without meds

    • @patriciatoney240
      @patriciatoney240 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Could you please explain treatment resistant? I would love to find alternatives for my son.

  • @ftuT
    @ftuT 2 ปีที่แล้ว +137

    One of the most interesting interviews I've seen with someone diagnosed of a psychotic disorder. He's insight is amazing and he makes really good points. I always learn something from your videos to work with my patients. You never stop to amaze me, Lauren. Thank you.

  • @lenanjeri6429
    @lenanjeri6429 2 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    I have had 3 breakdowns since 2002 and I have got 2 times I tried being off medication but I got my worst psychotic episode in 2011.my psychiatrist told me if I am off medication again it might be permanent. I have kids and I have a good support managing my stress and now it’s 10 years and I have trusted my medication that I fear if I am off then I loose my kids. This site really help me to start opening up about my condition which people around me hardly know.It’s good to hear different experiences cos it really helps.

    • @marlboromatt5656
      @marlboromatt5656 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      What did the psychiatrist mean by if you go off medication it might be permanent??

    • @Al-kb2xl
      @Al-kb2xl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@marlboromatt5656 the more times you have breakdowns the worse your over all prognosis is. Its harder each time to stabilise the person after a psychotic break

    • @XCG670
      @XCG670 ปีที่แล้ว

      I know the healing method to not take meds anymore

    • @Zozotik25
      @Zozotik25 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi njeri which medication are you on

    • @chaosdweller
      @chaosdweller 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yes getting new outlooks on things is fantastic.

  • @peonypurp2636
    @peonypurp2636 2 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    As a person who doesn't have Schizophrenia but other trauma and MI, I very much relate with Martin saying "I find him infuriating; because he's right"

  • @psychosislove
    @psychosislove 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    I went through hell throughout my entire childhood being schizoaffective. The trial and error with new meds and bullies and adults who ignored me all throughout my teen hood drove me to suicide. When I was 17 I refused to take anymore medication for about a week. In that week I went through the worst of my symptoms. As such I got up out of bed at the end of the week, ready to end my life so I could escape the anguish and misery I was going through. But, I was urged by a positive voice to take the new meds, and I listened to her. I remember her saying, "Your parents don't deserve to bury their only daughter." I've been on that same medication for 13 years now and though I will never be able to have a job of any kind, I am stable enough that I am happy now and have married the most amazing man who helps me in a way no one else has been able to do so. I have less psychotic episodes and I managed to get my AA degree. It took 7 years, but I got it. Whenever I forget to take my meds (which is usually me having fake memories of having taken it when I didn't), I feel it. My body gets tingly, my mind starts going places it doesn't need to go in, I start shaking and twitching and just feeling all sorts of "wrongness"; My symptoms get stronger. So my husband and I make sure together every morning and evening that I take my medications. I find it amazing that Martin has learned how to handle it without medications, for the most part, because I can't function without them. It just shows that we all experience our illnesses differently, and that there is no one way of treatment for everyone.

    • @sebastian_thiel
      @sebastian_thiel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      try the ketogenic diet for 3 months.

    • @starrhall8160
      @starrhall8160 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Did u try niacin, high doses, tho?

    • @Verbux
      @Verbux ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@sebastian_thiel zero carb is better.

    • @sebastian_thiel
      @sebastian_thiel ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Verbux yeah definitely, zero carb helped me a lot with my Schizophrenia. I think the woman who makes these videos should try it, she would probably benefit from it. Research: "Chris Palmer MD" from the McLean Hospital at Harvard Medical school 🏫

    • @deansmith230
      @deansmith230 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I think you are amazing and your are as blessed as your husband is, to have you. Love and Light to both of you.

  • @creativelyanalytic
    @creativelyanalytic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    He is so self aware. When he said he stopped activities where you had to be on the top of your game and people depended on him (diving, shooting club). Very selfless🙏🏾. With my loved one, I’ve seen wreckless behavior and denial. Prayerfully that will change. I also wish there was better resources in GA.

    • @aaymathebest4705
      @aaymathebest4705 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ariel6018 thanks you explained in the vomments🤗🤗🤗🤗

  • @ClockworkEngineer
    @ClockworkEngineer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    I also get by with schizophrenia and no medication. This guy describes actually how I live as well. It's constant vigilance.

    • @tysonmikel9222
      @tysonmikel9222 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      are u forced to do therapy and check ups even though you're off meds?

    • @ClockworkEngineer
      @ClockworkEngineer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@tysonmikel9222 I don't live in an Orwellian dystopia, so no, I'm not forced to do anything.

    • @tysonmikel9222
      @tysonmikel9222 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ClockworkEngineer so you dont do therapy? I'm wondering if ppl who dont take meds still do therapy

    • @jax-zm1bb
      @jax-zm1bb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@tysonmikel9222 He is asking if you willingly do therapy, Clockwork Energy.

    • @Verbux
      @Verbux ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ClockworkEngineer lucky. I live in Australia

  • @bluesky902
    @bluesky902 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    This was SUCH a valuable video to watch - thank you for making the effort to show the many different ways people try to manage their condition and thank you Martin for being so open and honest. I was struck by how so much of what Martin said is applicable to other conditions, including clinical depression, and his frank and pragmatic approach is so refreshing. The whole experience of medication can sometimes be really traumatising. My interpretation of what Martin has done is really to focus on accepting his condition and changing his life. It's hard - so so hard - but, it really seems to work for him. I hope that as society talks more openly about mental health and neurodivergence, Martin's path can feel more possible for others. Thank you again - I love these conversation videos please do more!

  • @joninarimmer7344
    @joninarimmer7344 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This speaks to me strongly. It gives great insight into the experience and perspective of a close member of my family. Martin states many of the same struggles, concerns and experiences that my loved one has tried to share so very often to share with me. This video helped me gain understanding in a way that I haven't before. Lauren, you have helped me to be of better support to him with this channel. Thank you so very much!

  • @VerasPlanet
    @VerasPlanet 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    What a great conversation. Thanks to both of you for sharing!

  • @84strix
    @84strix 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I loved Martin! So wise and so nice sharing all of this with us. I could listen to him all day, really. Wish him all the best!

  • @SybilNix
    @SybilNix 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I love the way that this interview was filmed, the angles and filming the screen and not just relying on screen recording made this not only informative and helpful but beautiful and engaging

  • @belladonna7159
    @belladonna7159 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you sooo much, both of you. I needed to hear and know I am not alone. I totally relate to this gentleman. I'm crying good tears right now. I appreciate you both for this video.

  • @stagehand9002
    @stagehand9002 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Lauren this channel is a great help to a lot of people thank you

  • @nooriarizvi3279
    @nooriarizvi3279 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I no longer take meds either the psychiatrist told me to stay on meds for life but I refused here I am 2 years out perfectly fine it’s really important to manage your stress levels

    • @XCG670
      @XCG670 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I know the healing method to not take meds anymore

    • @jeanpaultongeren125
      @jeanpaultongeren125 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@XCG670 How

    • @XCG670
      @XCG670 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jeanpaultongeren125 must to know that is no problem with tiroide,LH hormone(lack of testosteron)

  • @lisamatonis4579
    @lisamatonis4579 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Thank you Lauren, and Martin for sharing this!!

  • @pruey
    @pruey 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Martin's candor and his willingness to be vulnerable in this interview is really beautiful. Thank you for having such a wonderful guest on your video. I wish Martin all the best :)

  • @cicelybega5419
    @cicelybega5419 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you so much for this topic. And a huge thanks to Martin for sharing his experience. ❤️

  • @ambergregory7869
    @ambergregory7869 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thank you so much for this amazing and eye opening interview! Martin - you are a rock star and I am grateful for you sharing your experience.

  • @lindhorstellie
    @lindhorstellie 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I actually really appreciate you lauren, thanks for being a strong advocate for our community! And happy new year!

  • @ericagoehring1089
    @ericagoehring1089 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    This was very interesting! I appreciate how self-aware Martin is. I wish him well!

  • @carolinejones1977
    @carolinejones1977 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lauren, I thank you with all my heart for your channel. I find peace and hope listening to you.

  • @karifaller9284
    @karifaller9284 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    What a lovely, insightful man. I learned SO much from his perspective! Please thank him for me. xo

  • @sneakupbania
    @sneakupbania 2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    I don’t have schizophrenia, but I so relate to what you shared about traveling and being in between places - it’s where I feel most at ease and most myself, even if it’s only a bus ride. You described that feeling so poignantly and made me think about it in a new way, thank you.

  • @rpink8531
    @rpink8531 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Excellent. Best sign of high quality media content? Allowing opinions other than those held by the content creators. Thank you for allowing this option a voice 🙏

  • @JERRODDHANKS
    @JERRODDHANKS 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    These videos really get the topics going, and help me so much in the way i dont feel so alone!

  • @elizabethconroy7665
    @elizabethconroy7665 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for sharing,Martin
    I admire your bravery and honesty in sharing with us
    Pleased you kept your job
    All the best for now and in the future
    Warm Hugs

  • @mackenzie-deltadurocher
    @mackenzie-deltadurocher 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Thanks for sharing Martin. I especially appreciate you addressing how you've navigating work and balancing your health.
    Glad to hear your employers are committed to your wellness! No wonder you love your job lol.

  • @riseup6112
    @riseup6112 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really appreciated the openness and ease of this dialogue

  • @joannekerr3
    @joannekerr3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    What a fantastic interview Lauren! Thank you so much for sharing your story and insight Martin! I would love to see more interviews with others who are dealing with similar diagnoses. Very informative.

  • @shahadah1451
    @shahadah1451 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I had the same thoughts----longing to check in somewhere, some hospital, where there would be no responsibilities or demands. I had some very smart, kind cops who completely supported me and understood. They kept me safe and made me feel loved and seen. They took me to the E.R. but did not leave or commit me.
    Work is vital to me also.......Thank you, sir, for sharing your experience here.

  • @j.h.miretskay3430
    @j.h.miretskay3430 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    I am sometimes extremely sarcastic and snarky, but I have to commend Lauren for being audacious enough to present alternatives to mainstream psychiatry. Kudos, and I tip my hat to you.

  • @susanfahncke637
    @susanfahncke637 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Martin, thank you so much for sharing your journey. I felt it was brave and your humor and self- awareness are going to make a difference and give hope to others who are facing mental wellness struggles. Thank you! ❤

  • @laurenperales5981
    @laurenperales5981 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Wow what an intelligent and humble man. Thank you guys for bringing all this to light, it's an encouragement to see such a positive and rational outlook with people who are very akin to the suffering associated with schizophrenia. I believe there is purpose to everything in life, even things that seem like they will be the end of us. He proves with his life how he uses this to his advantage, to heighten his awareness of himself and his surroundings, and definitely doesn't let it stop him. Bless him for sharing these parts of his life with us and thank you Lauren as well!!! Super needed especially in those who live with similar mental conditions, a beautiful and meaningful life is still very much possible with schizophrenia. I believe our weakness (as humans regardless of mental condition) lends itself to truly finding strength. Everyone struggling with similar things please don't give up. This is worth the daily fights we have to put up, you never know who you may be helping and what your life is truly accomplishing

  • @karafitz998
    @karafitz998 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Hi Martin, I'm a fellow high-functioning schizophrenic who is currently on maternity leave but holds a full-time job when not mothering. I often feel like I am not at all Schizophrenic because I manage my symptoms so well and they thus do not affect my everyday life. But then once a month my nurse comes and I'm reminded by that white powder he puts into the syringe that I am indeed mentally ill. I wish to one day come off my medication and have my complete self back, until then your story gives me hope for that day. Thank you for sharing.

    • @strxy0497
      @strxy0497 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi I was just wondering how were you diagnosed was it a mental health screening or a normal doctors checkup I am terrified I may have schizophrenia as I’ve had psychotic episodes were I don’t remember what happened

    • @karafitz998
      @karafitz998 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@strxy0497 you might want to reach out to a hospital for help to diagnose you.

    • @rashidafurniturewalla985
      @rashidafurniturewalla985 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad to know you can keep a job. May I ask what meds you’re taking and is it once a month only?

  • @bremeikle7258
    @bremeikle7258 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for closed captions for those of us who are hard of hearing 💜 this channel has helped me support a loved one a lot

    • @chaosdweller
      @chaosdweller 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I had trouble hearing him cuz of his strong accent.

  • @danny-zz5gv
    @danny-zz5gv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love how you are doing all this and helping people with mental health, praying for good health for everyone
    Also, can u make a video about diff Bet schizophrenia and PTSD

  • @PearlMarjory
    @PearlMarjory 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent Martin. Continue with the strategies that are helping you in your day to day. To his dr...good for listening, and allowing him to try being off his medication. some doctors would'nt take the risk, and I understand the reasoning and never condemn them. Excellent interview.

  • @nanettedavidson8949
    @nanettedavidson8949 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    What a lovely man he is. I wish for him all good things. Thank you, Martin for sharing those insights and helping us understand what it is like to have schizophrenia. I hope your sense of contribution is rewarded for helping all of us.

  • @RaysDad
    @RaysDad 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    This interview was so helpful and inspiring!

  • @fionabell1744
    @fionabell1744 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thankyou so much martin for sharing this . Its really helpful. I have schizophrenia in my family and bipolor. I have my own issues also and i could relate to so much you said. Cutting stress down, good and bad stress definitely helps . I do lots of walking in nature and getting the light, good company, self care and sleep so important.. keeping close to my higher power is the foundation for my life. Keto and carnivore diet is excellent as well ive found. . Ive came of anticonvulsants and mood stabiliser ( 20 year) over 3 years now and mostly ok. I wish u all the best . This is a great channel x

  • @kharlostique270
    @kharlostique270 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I'm so happy to hear from Mr. Martin and the questions had very insightful answers.
    In my experience, the negative symptoms were the hardest factor to start dealing with.
    I love everything about this video!

    • @XCG670
      @XCG670 ปีที่แล้ว

      I know the healing method to not take meds anymore

  • @yiquanawalkb4run26
    @yiquanawalkb4run26 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you to both of you for such a great and timely interview,

  • @sandycampbell1866
    @sandycampbell1866 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    so sad to hear about the psychiatrist telling him not to get into a relationship. Thank you for hearing his story and the reality of what people put into files and awareness of not wanting to be seen as defiant. I am a therapist trying to help a clients with symptoms of schizophrenia. It is good to to hear about the value of social support and feeling good about contributing.

  • @dmgsoultogetherness6667
    @dmgsoultogetherness6667 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You're doing great big man...take your time, slowly and surely going forward.🙏🏻🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

  • @kathleenrev7
    @kathleenrev7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great Interview! Thank you!
    Love your hair Lauren!

  • @donovanscabbia6770
    @donovanscabbia6770 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just want to thank you living well (I'm so sorry but at the moment don't know your name ) but I would like to thank you for your real and truthful testimonies about your episodes and experiences. As painful as they are for you to have.( Believe me I know) You help with the information I need to know. Man your a real warrior in this fight. I'm not a religious person but I will say you are a godsend. My guardian angel. Thank you times infinity.

  • @adhdandme2023
    @adhdandme2023 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I relate so much to what Martin was saying about his enjoyment of the travelling aspect of his work and moreso the feelings of peace that can come with travelling generally. That is when I am most at peace, when I feel more in control of the amount of contact I have with "society", feeling more free and with fewer societal expectations on me. The alure of "checking out" when homeless is similar but also terrifying at times. If I didn't have the support of family that I do that could easily have been my path I think. Life is hard enough for people who don't experience serious mental health issues. I have a similar sense of peace when sitting in my car or on the stairs. I am neither one place or another. I am not diagnosed but had alot of psychotic symptoms in childhood and young adulthood from trauma. I still struggle with work in terms of the pressure and paranoia that can be triggered. Much respect to you Martin. I would be interested to know what you do for work. (I would be interested to know also how easy-to-understand people found Martin's Northern Irish accent. I am personally familiar with it but others may have struggled because it is fast.) Much gratitude and respect to you both Lauren and Martin.

  • @MrMasterNorris
    @MrMasterNorris 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This guy is so grounded. Calming to see

  • @tallblonde1976
    @tallblonde1976 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Martin thanks for your insight, your voice/accent was an absolute pleasure.

  • @layotheleprechaun
    @layotheleprechaun 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Fair play Martin! You're an inspiring man!

  • @juliaotway7158
    @juliaotway7158 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    What a lovely gentle man, thank you Martin. Very self aware. Please let him know, how worthwhile and brave he is, stigma unfortunately stigma is still around regarding mental health is still around. To step forward so publicly ,Martin derserves recognition for doing this. Everyone is deserving of love. I am glad he has supportive employers and a supportive network. Blessings.

  • @louise5906
    @louise5906 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thankyou to Martin. That was very informative 🌸

  • @summer7529
    @summer7529 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Lauren I must mention that I loved this interview.
    You and Martin are both lovely, brave souls.
    Bless you both.
    Martin Can you please tell whom you saw?
    Is there a way to email or msg Martin?
    I am in Belfast and would love to see the same doctor. Martin , Your doctor sounds really good and understanding of your situation.
    Thanks so much Martin for coming up here and help us all in the same boat and inspire us to get better. You are so confident and courageous. You are a hero!!
    Lots of love and respect ❤

  • @patriciacinea3097
    @patriciacinea3097 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Insight seems to be an important factor. Knowing, accepting, learning about any illness.

  • @sara88hxc
    @sara88hxc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I related deeply to this. Thank you for the thoughtful questions and answers!

    • @TheGrayton2000
      @TheGrayton2000 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Um hello

    • @chaosdweller
      @chaosdweller 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I didn't have the captions up and could barely understand his accent and I still enjoyed it very refreshing getting a new pov.

  • @aaronettewilson5926
    @aaronettewilson5926 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love your program l suffer from the same things for 31 years had a nervous breakdown. 30th years ago loss my my and Jesus heal me

  • @angelialeah8780
    @angelialeah8780 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I loved this interview with Martin! Gave me some insight in regards to my son with schizophrenia. Thank you Lauren!

    • @middleeasternvibes6950
      @middleeasternvibes6950 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you know why your son has the condition ? How does it happen and develop ?! I hope you answer and how old is your son

    • @XCG670
      @XCG670 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I know the healing method to not take meds anymore

    • @middleeasternvibes6950
      @middleeasternvibes6950 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@XCG670 how can you share

  • @davidryan8269
    @davidryan8269 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for your openess Martin. I've attended 12 step fellowships for over twenty years and I used today. A can of bourbon and coke. I thinks it due to the lack of validation that I seek in regards to my insight and awareness when the truth is only a psychiatrist can provide that. Tomorrow I'm going to make an appointment with a private psychiatrist as the public health system is a bit of a factory. Expecting regular people to identify with things like how I beatified the self as a very young child gets a few odd glances. Regular people exult and experience all the attendant feelings when they're able to come back into their physical body. I take it to another level were my ego gets infused by my libido and I bask in self exaltation. The adulation and glory are divine. Radical joy and apocalyptic grief. The Radical joy is from positive affect I experienced in my early childhood and the apocalyptic grief is defusion of that beatified self I experience in my inner realm. Think that's pretty well sums up in a general sense the root of my psychosis. That's how I interpret it anyway. Peace yall and thanks lauren

  • @BearbearbearbearbearbearRarrrr
    @BearbearbearbearbearbearRarrrr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Medicating Normal, the documentary film, is a very well informed complimentary point to this important discussion, I think.

  • @maryannscott5567
    @maryannscott5567 2 ปีที่แล้ว +105

    I'd love to see more videos on alternatives to medications, if only because it is extremely difficult to access healthcare in the USA, especially since most people lack adequate insurance. This is why the prisons here are full of the mentally ill.
    Studies treating schizophrenia and other brain illnesses with keto genic diet have been very promising. I'm also interested in other treatments such as EMDR for trauma resolution, meditation and Vagal nerve healing to be explored.

    • @technoviking4152
      @technoviking4152 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Yes, try clean keto, with anti inflammatory foods mixed with interminent fasting.

    • @maryannscott5567
      @maryannscott5567 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@technoviking4152 perfect combo

    • @ptycat
      @ptycat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Blue lotus flower!!!! It naturally has nuciferine in it which is an antipsychotic.

    • @GrowWildOutdoors
      @GrowWildOutdoors 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      EMDR, Somatic Therapy for physical trauma, low-dose THC, and a healthy lifestyle have been a boon for my psychotic symptoms. I still experience dissociation and my PTSD-related anxiety & panic attacks, but with DBT I'm learning the skills necessary to stabilize quickly.

    • @gilbertcuevas9944
      @gilbertcuevas9944 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      when i was on keto i felt better too

  • @pandamacika21
    @pandamacika21 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you both!

  • @petersonjoseph5261
    @petersonjoseph5261 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I agree with what Martin said (~23:35) about the experience of just traveling and getting from point a to b. It's a time of sometimes being unbothered by the world especially when in Lyft/Uber.

  • @aaronjennings8385
    @aaronjennings8385 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm glad you've decided to give us a voice. Medication did nothing for my issues. But meds were doing serious harm.
    Some of us are better off without... It's nice to see you have an open mind.
    Would a video about anti- mnda encephalitis be approachable?

    • @XCG670
      @XCG670 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I know the healing method to not take meds anymore

  • @jaeblaq1
    @jaeblaq1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for this insightful video

  • @tcl5853
    @tcl5853 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Outstanding discussion. Being able to manage any serious health issue successfully is a tribute to the human spirit.
    Martin is clearly aware that he has options and doesn’t rule anything out. While he prefers to manage his schizophrenia without meds, he is willing to do whatever is necessary to accomplish his goals. He knows that if needed, he can use meds to help him manage his life. He stays in contact with his health care provider and has a strong social network that provides guidance if necessary. His way of successfully coping with schizophrenia is rare, but he has been able to achieve something very important to him. To be a productive person who lives well despite his difficulties.
    Martin is an outstanding human being. Not because he can manage without meds, but because despite a very tuff illness to manage he has nevertheless embraced life and is always looking forward.

    • @tysonmikel9222
      @tysonmikel9222 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      antipsychotics make ppl more psychotic its proven

    • @tcl5853
      @tcl5853 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tysonmikel9222 : While you are certainly entitled to your opinion, antipsychotics have helped many people live better lives. If you doubt that, look at the data.
      And looking at the data doesn’t mean TH-cam or Facebook to get at the truth.
      As soon as I see someone make an all inclusive statement about a medication, like the one you made, I cringe because it’s irresponsible. A particular medication my do wonders for some people, and for others it may not do anything or it may aggravate symptoms. People are very complex and to think, or demand that everyone will respond the same way and get the same results from a particular medication adds little or nothing to help those of us that find medication extremely helpful.
      Medicine isn’t magic. Meds are not magical potions that works exactly the same for everyone. Humanity is still a long long way from curing everyone in a moments notice as if they never had a problem. And it’s unlikely that will happen anytime soon.

    • @chaosdweller
      @chaosdweller 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​​@@tcl5853 didn't get that from reading his comment but alright... haha.

  • @erisinger
    @erisinger 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I'd love to see you do an interview with someone who was misdiagnosed with schizophrenia and/or schizoeffective so we can know the definitive things to look for. If you can't find anyone I volunteer lmfaoo (joke but also serious bc I love this channel) I've had ptsd hallucinations!! I was misdiagnosed as schizoeffective, but my birth mother had schizophrenia so I didn't fight my diagnsosis for years.

    • @KatJ3st
      @KatJ3st ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was misdiagnosed with Bipolar disorder. It was a nightmare. Always get a second opinion!!!

    • @chaosdweller
      @chaosdweller 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@KatJ3st🤔

    • @chaosdweller
      @chaosdweller 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Fr I would too .

    • @seanodwyer4322
      @seanodwyer4322 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      contact then- Sean O'Dwyer- 140 hobson Street.- Auckland city. 1010. New Zealand.- south pacificc.''

  • @egarncarz804
    @egarncarz804 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good video. I really like this interview.

  • @user-sd1wx3cl3r
    @user-sd1wx3cl3r ปีที่แล้ว +1

    wow...i can relate to Martin...and yes..taking life day by day...its what it is..i can not change it..what i can do ..is to put myself into situations that will not make me feel scared...rejected ..anxious..etc..

  • @biomanization
    @biomanization 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I liked the tone that the interviewer used, very respectful, open, without any agenda. Thank you for this discussion. I understand that up to 30% of schizophrenics can manager without medication, but they need continuous surveillance for any relapse

    • @chaosdweller
      @chaosdweller 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah true true,she was unbiased considering her story.

  • @jacobcarline482
    @jacobcarline482 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    ThankYou both. The fact your doing everything you can and motivated to the point of working is a sensation. Being ready , open and honest with an audience is very inspiring to see. You were both very receptive of each other's thoughts. I can see you'd be better complacent on meds from an overall trusted Dr And . Believe me, we all wish we could take back our live without meds. But no one's permanently the the same after trauma creating a health Hazzard for us. We must accept meds are only a part of life and do everything we can to stay happy and not overly motivated to remain happy. It's time to settle brother. That's why they say stop and smell the roses.

  • @chimairamoody3883
    @chimairamoody3883 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I'm afraid of taking medication, I can't even take Tylenol because I'm too afraid I'll have a heart attack and die or my organs will shut down. It's so so frustrating going to any doctor or psychiatrist who ridicules me and pokes fun at me stating the obvious that "why are you here if you won't even take the medication we give you?"

  • @PaulaSmithIns
    @PaulaSmithIns 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I am enjoying your channel. My son, who is in his mid 20s, was recently diagnosed and I'm trying to learn more about how to understand and help him.

    • @sileenaennis
      @sileenaennis ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It’s a spectrum condition

    • @theroyalone5765
      @theroyalone5765 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sileenaennis I’m so glad you mentioned that, We just realized that with our love one, no one ever mentions “spectrum” as it relates to schizophrenia.

    • @XCG670
      @XCG670 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I know the healing method to not take meds anymore

  • @colleensarmento9660
    @colleensarmento9660 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this video👌

  • @jmk1962
    @jmk1962 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Loved this interview. So interesting.

  • @Urbanplann
    @Urbanplann 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is great to hear. I wish we all had yearly medication reviews with psychiatrists to have control over our tablets. Also the two days work and one off works amazing, I do this now and knowing it helps is great. Or even agreeing a day on and a day off works good too!

    • @tysonmikel9222
      @tysonmikel9222 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      what do you mean control over tablets? do you want to come off meds?

    • @XCG670
      @XCG670 ปีที่แล้ว

      I know the healing method to not take meds anymore

  • @donnajoyce5891
    @donnajoyce5891 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is so encouraging

  • @danielfowler1962
    @danielfowler1962 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I take amisulpride .. I just feel a huge lack of motivation when taking meds. Before I was ill I was a very active person, now I really struggle with excercise alot. That one gets me, I really used to enjoy excercise, was a big part of my identity and provided me with a sense of well being.

    • @jeanpaultongeren125
      @jeanpaultongeren125 ปีที่แล้ว

      you know why it does this> because dopamine is blocked. while exercies releases dopamine and serotin. the anti psycotics blocks this.

    • @jeanpaultongeren125
      @jeanpaultongeren125 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      sucks bro

  • @n.angelicah.1625
    @n.angelicah.1625 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It would be really nice to see more videos like this where we see what alternatives are working for other people.

  • @redlaven5899
    @redlaven5899 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    This was a great interview!! Martin is the first person with Schizophrenia that resonates with my own Schizophrenia. My symptoms and demeanor are very simillar. I do have to say I disagree with his doctor as well on the family aspect. I am Married with children and also manage without medications with simillar strategies. I keep stress low and stay on top of my therapy. I wish him the best!! thank you for this.

    • @tysonmikel9222
      @tysonmikel9222 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      how often does your doctor do check ups and blood work? and do you still see psychiatrist or family doctor?

    • @redlaven5899
      @redlaven5899 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tysonmikel9222 I see a therapist usually every other week. sometimes just monthly and sometimes weekly just depends on how well i'm doing at the time with symptoms. the ones that bother me the most are the negative symptoms with disorganized thoughts. I am lucky enough to NOT have Audio hullicinations. I just have a few Visual ones that I have learned to live with or ignore. I'm not sure what the blood work would be for other than for cholesterol and such?? but I do try to stay on top of my yearly check ups with the family doctor. Currently watching my blood pressure more closely.

    • @tysonmikel9222
      @tysonmikel9222 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@redlaven5899 does your doctor suggest you to go back on meds or does he leave you alone?

    • @redlaven5899
      @redlaven5899 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@tysonmikel9222 I've actually never been on meds. and my Doctor has a simillar outlook on medications and attempting to stay off them. He would listen to what my therapists or psychiatrists suggest if the time came to be on them. I am fortunate enough to be very able to "present well". and actually was diagnosed really late in life due to that fact. The biggest thing I have going for myself in the battle to stay off meds, is that I am a little more unique in being able to rationalize myself out of my delusional moments. I am aware that I believe things that others don't and can at the minimum tell myself to stop wasting time on that thought pattern.

    • @tysonmikel9222
      @tysonmikel9222 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@redlaven5899 oh that's interesting. I thought most people diagnosed took meds for a period of time. My psychiatrist took me off meds but family doctor wanted me to stay on. I been off 3 months now dont know what will happen when the fam doctor finds out. I heard psychiatrist is final decision maker but I'm not sure

  • @grahamhardie6853
    @grahamhardie6853 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good luck Martin you are a brave man.

  • @GothWaffles
    @GothWaffles 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for the interview! I hope one day to get off my meds as well

  • @Modern_Warrior_School
    @Modern_Warrior_School ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I'm not at the point where I feel like I can go completely off meds yet, but have found that stress management does much more for me than meds alone. A year ago, I was completely disconnected with reality more often than not, for weeks at a time, even though I was on 6x higher doses than I'm on now. But once I got my stress under control, I went down on my doses and haven't had positive symptoms since. I've been out of work for over a year because of my symptoms, but am just now feeling stable enough to re-enter the workforce. Good luck to everyone else who's struggling and try to see the light at the end of the tunnel.

    • @rocketmantheone
      @rocketmantheone 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How are you doing now? Remember, you’re a fighter! You can do this ! You can beat this ! God loves you as well ! Talk to him and seek him, he will answer!

  • @michalyaari7183
    @michalyaari7183 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    great interview!!

  • @Szszsa
    @Szszsa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great point about the incarceration and the mandatory drugs they give you 👍🏼 I was in there for 3 months involuntarily, was having huge side effects from olanzapine and they gave me a high dose of a depot shot which gave me even more of a reaction. They even told me that I should have been out by Christmas or 2019 but I was kept there for another month. Now I fluctuate on meds because I didn’t have a very good experience being forced onto them. Good stuff Martin ☘️

  • @jennifer_reyes_9490
    @jennifer_reyes_9490 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love this I don’t take medication and I don’t want it I have Schitzo~affective & I don’t ver say it’s a disorder i feel very normal when I fight it off I become distressed until I accept it and I feel calm again and it goes away self acceptance makes a big shift with the voice when I accept it goes away I almost forget and I feel good because I know myself and I almost feel wierd with out but I remember I was a happy person this Ben going since I was 4-5 and because I didn’t put labels I lived a normal life … I came to this video because I was fighting off my feelings and I needed comfort and I feel good now

  • @stuartgorman
    @stuartgorman ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks for sharing hopefully youre still doing okay a year after the podcast

  • @susan5615
    @susan5615 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What a great guy!

  • @user-wq5px6us5h
    @user-wq5px6us5h 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I am a psychologist and throughout my training I have felt that there was a barrier separating us from people suffering from mental disorders. A space that can only be accessed by a few. It is not easy to find the true voice of patients, always filtered by doctors and associations that claim to represent them. Thank you for the space, I feel my frustration overcome, at least in part.

  • @nerdshizz8177
    @nerdshizz8177 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I swear everyone that says they self medicate schizophrenia with weed have bipolar. I'm schizophrenic and that shit made me hallucinate every time I tried it.

    • @drwilbert
      @drwilbert 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Weed is a big no no for me.

    • @kaseycampos6982
      @kaseycampos6982 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Weed is not good for my symptoms at all.

    • @VampireSquirrel
      @VampireSquirrel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think it effects some people quite differently than others

    • @gilbertcuevas9944
      @gilbertcuevas9944 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      weed makes it soo bad for me, I'm schizophrenic so I'm telling you, don't smoke weed

    • @marcushanlin
      @marcushanlin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Weed has triggered psychosis for me on multiple occasions, but I also abused it for a long time to deal with my depression. Now it doesn't feel the same and almost always causes anxiety. And if something happens to trigger me it will throw me into a psychotic episode.

  • @tysonmikel9222
    @tysonmikel9222 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    can we get more videos like this? the info is great

  • @jbhalodia
    @jbhalodia 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Everyone deserves a loving relationship, no matter what❤ never think that your mental illness takes that away from you

  • @im19ice3
    @im19ice3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i relate to thinking i know better than my doc 😅 thankfully she's always patient with all my questions and doubts and makes an effort to reach a compromise with me in the matter of meds.

  • @toddm6999
    @toddm6999 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great interview 👍

  • @melanieannette3781
    @melanieannette3781 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’m not schizophrenic but relate so much to that idea of being “in between.” Until I heard this, I don’t think I could put it into words. I have struggled with very severe and persistent depression among other mental health struggles so I’m not sure if maybe it’s somewhat of a sign of being uncomfortable in your own head, but I definitely can relate so it’s not merely a psychosis thing.

    • @coolopo6155
      @coolopo6155 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It is most likely derealizatiom or depersonalization it’s a very numbing feeling. I hope you are doing well.

  • @christ_ie3714
    @christ_ie3714 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Med free since 2007ish. Schizoeffective and borderline personality. I'm married with 3 kids here ( one in heaven). I live a very fulfilling life. I gave it all to God and He has renewed my mind and gave me a new spirit and new lease on life. It is possible to be med free!!! Jesus is the way truth and life

  • @brentlesheim7084
    @brentlesheim7084 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    He is right, nothing lasts forever.

  • @user-wq5px6us5h
    @user-wq5px6us5h 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Many professionals who have started in this world also feel very angry, we feel cheated. They don't tell us what it is, they tell us what is interesting. It imposes more economic principles than helping people with their suffering. This is something that I am confirming more and more with podcasts like these, with testimonies like yours and my own experience with my struggle to provide the support that is really needed. Without medication? is not possible for them. But not all of us think the same

  • @Grawlix-P
    @Grawlix-P ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I use sensory 5 fingered grounding and always knowing today's full date. So if im freaking out, ill try my hardest to remeber what day it is and tell myself, "Ok, todays Friday, January 5th... I SEE a clock, a chair, my shoes, a book and the tablecloth. I can FEEL the table, my phone, the seat and my socks. I can HEAR the wind outside, my youtube video and the washing machine in the other room. I can SMELL my lunch and the fresh laundry smell on my sweater. I can TASTE the coffe i drank a few minutes ago. Today is... Friday, January 5th, 2023. I always use different objects without repeating because it forces myself to pay attention to my surroundings. Then i do my best to stay plugged into reality and not my mind, thoughts, feelings, assumptions, or memories. Stay grounded peeps