After a three part feature on Militant tendency in the 80's - BBC North West tonight presenter Roger Johnson attempts to carry out an interview with Derek Hatton
Absolutely priceless ! This champion of the working class now runs about in a £60,000 Range Rover and is a property developer in Cyprus. Wheres his flat cap and whippet now ???
I can't say that I agree with everything that DH says but, my goodness, his comment about the lazy BBC's Google-scraping journalism was bang on. And then to pat him on the head with a "There, there. You've had your rant." and smirk is the embodiment of how low the sofa surfing BBC has plummeted in the last ten years.
Excellent comment. I watched it live at the time and have done a few times since. Hatton was totally correct in everything he said. I have never been able to take Johnson seriously but this just took the biscuit. The media hates it when it is called out for its bias. It is a self perpetuating echo chamber; self satisfied and unaccountable. A whole load of questions that could not be asked because Hatton ranted? He did not as he rightly pointed out. No reason why the interview could not have been extended if the BBC wnted to hear the answers but clearly they wanted to cut the interview as soon as possible when the answers were not to their liking. The BBC is state propaganda.
Forget politics, Britain needs outspoken free speeches and characters...love or loathe ....gets debate and wakes folk up. Hatton is a painful national treasure! True reality TV.
How many politicians stand by the working class and not the banks and corporations? Hatton is right not to let an establishment pundit set the agenda. Well done Degsy.
Derek Hatton ... Well Done! ..never ever thought I'd say that but well done! If the BBC didn't have so many predicated Darlin's you coulda had a conversation.
The establishment once again have ganged up on a politician who tries to tell the truth Derek quite rightly said that the reports and interviews were not balanced and are biased He was correct The people who live in the new housing around the vauxhall road area (the area that governments since the 2nd world war had allowed to degenerate) would thank the then Liverpool council for their new and well designed housing and those same people have worked tirelessly to keep a fantastic community going
The Manchester BBC presenter doing his utmost to hide his massive stiffy over the prospect to cast Liverpool in the worst possible light and dredge up events from decades ago.
Derek Hatton was alone against MI5, Special Branch and the establishment when he was trying to sort Liverpool out. A liverpool that Thatcher had written off with her "managed decline" strategy which was another way of saying "let them rot". Despite this, he was able to make some progress in improving the lives of ordinary scousers. I use to love the BBC but over the last few years they have moved increasingly towards the right. Moving to Manchester might remind them about the working class.
lets make him director general of the BBC the reporting would improve immeasurably Hatton didn't let them run there agenda we need more of that there agenda is always anti democratic
in the final frame you can see the expression on the presenters face on both of them actually they were saying " gotcha" funnily enough on TV it doesn't seem to matter whether what you're saying is right or wrong if you get angry it just comes across very bad for some reason
I didnt like him ,but its his sort and the unions who i also didnt like that looked after the working class people, if it wasnt for the likes of them children would still have been down mines and up chimneys Making the weathy wealthier ,the people who have money want to keep it at all costs and get as much as they can no matter how it affects the poor ,a fair days pay for a fair days work , thats whats needed from the workers and the bosses
Probably not, but I'd say it wasn't the fault of the council. Their ideas were 'radical', i.e. innovative and daring, and could have worked well. They were committed, sincere and forthright. Unfortunately, they went against Thatcher's policies and were stopped from doing what they were elected to do. They stood up for the poor & made good strides in housing. John Hamilton was the brains of the outfit, a very decent man. Removed from elected office because they disagreed with central gov't.
@gedhession Yes! Almost all would say Militant was the best council we've had in last few decades. People like Terry Fields and Eric Heffer, Heffer especially so (even though he wasn't Militant, but strong Socialist)
@@KennBurch The city wouldn't have had a crippling debt that stopped subsequent administrations from doing anything and inner city land would have been developed to an appropriate scale later on, instead of throwing up bungalows within metres of Paradise and William Brown St for example.
@@peterainsworth8026 If it was only developed as homes for the wealthy, it would be a far worse situation, just as it would be a betrayal if far fewer working-class homes were built, which would be the inevitable result of following "market values". And the bankruptcy was caused by Thatcher's unjust and antidemocratic ratecapping policy.
@@KennBurch Afraid to tell you this but market values are what Liverpool was built upon. The city has been a listless dying husk when the sole obsession has been with building corpy housing. The city is having its arse served to it while Manchester and other cities power ahead with huge amounts of private investment. Endless timewarp scouse myopia about Thatcher has achieved NOTHING.
Stood up against the Tory government. If only more Labour Councils had done it in the 80s like they did in Liverpool! If only more Labour councils did it now! Fuck the Tory cuts! Vote TUSC in the 2021 local elections!
The problem is that a lot of the common sense that Hattons speaks is lost in his appalling approach. When someone comes across as rude and arrogant that's often because they are rude and arrogant so any facts get lost in his 'ranting' - and there's no better word for it than the one used by the presenter: ranting. As ever, with Hatton, he never misses an opportunity to miss an opportunity
Absolutely priceless ! This champion of the working class now runs about in a £60,000 Range Rover and is a property developer in Cyprus. Wheres his flat cap and whippet now ???
Good old capitalism. 👍🙄
One question when does a passionate debater end and a "rant" begin? According to BBC it's here! 😡
These BBC people don't have a radical bone in their bodies, they're too concerned about their position in the pecking order.
Derek Hatton who employed Max Clifford to improve his publicity !!
I can't say that I agree with everything that DH says but, my goodness, his comment about the lazy BBC's Google-scraping journalism was bang on. And then to pat him on the head with a "There, there. You've had your rant." and smirk is the embodiment of how low the sofa surfing BBC has plummeted in the last ten years.
Excellent comment. I watched it live at the time and have done a few times since. Hatton was totally correct in everything he said. I have never been able to take Johnson seriously but this just took the biscuit. The media hates it when it is called out for its bias. It is a self perpetuating echo chamber; self satisfied and unaccountable. A whole load of questions that could not be asked because Hatton ranted? He did not as he rightly pointed out. No reason why the interview could not have been extended if the BBC wnted to hear the answers but clearly they wanted to cut the interview as soon as possible when the answers were not to their liking. The BBC is state propaganda.
Forget politics, Britain needs outspoken free speeches and characters...love or loathe ....gets debate and wakes folk up. Hatton is a painful national treasure! True reality TV.
How many politicians stand by the working class and not the banks and corporations? Hatton is right not to let an establishment pundit set the agenda. Well done Degsy.
"I'll tell you what Rog" legend!
Derek Hatton ... Well Done! ..never ever thought I'd say that but well done! If the BBC didn't have so many predicated Darlin's you coulda had a conversation.
He doesn't look 66 years old anyway!!
The establishment once again have ganged up on a politician who tries to tell the truth Derek quite rightly said that the reports and interviews were not balanced and are biased He was correct The people who live in the new housing around the vauxhall road area (the area that governments since the 2nd world war had allowed to degenerate) would thank the then Liverpool council for their new and well designed housing and those same people have worked tirelessly to keep a fantastic community going
The Manchester BBC presenter doing his utmost to hide his massive stiffy over the prospect to cast Liverpool in the worst possible light and dredge up events from decades ago.
bbc sitch up well done Derek ,,always up to there tricks the bbc
Handing out redundancy notices in taxis?
I commend Roger for keeping calm.
Can't argue with DH.
Derek Hatton was alone against MI5, Special Branch and the establishment when he was trying to sort Liverpool out. A liverpool that Thatcher had written off with her "managed decline" strategy which was another way of saying "let them rot". Despite this, he was able to make some progress in improving the lives of ordinary scousers.
I use to love the BBC but over the last few years they have moved increasingly towards the right. Moving to Manchester might remind them about the working class.
Well said Derek.
lets make him director general of the BBC the reporting would improve immeasurably Hatton didn't let them run there agenda we need more of that there agenda is always anti democratic
derek hatton legend
Militant Forever!
Why has the sound gone?
in the final frame you can see the expression on the presenters face on both of them actually they were saying " gotcha"
funnily enough on TV it doesn't seem to matter whether what you're saying is right or wrong if you get angry it just comes across very bad for some reason
well done and well said Derek
Well said Derek lad
I would have punched that host in the teeth.
I didnt like him ,but its his sort and the unions who i also didnt like that looked after the working class people, if it wasnt for the likes of them children would still have been down mines and up chimneys Making the weathy wealthier ,the people who have money want to keep it at all costs and get as much as they can no matter how it affects the poor ,a fair days pay for a fair days work , thats whats needed from the workers and the bosses
Ive changed my mind i like him now
Probably not, but I'd say it wasn't the fault of the council. Their ideas were 'radical', i.e. innovative and daring, and could have worked well. They were committed, sincere and forthright. Unfortunately, they went against Thatcher's policies and were stopped from doing what they were elected to do. They stood up for the poor & made good strides in housing. John Hamilton was the brains of the outfit, a very decent man. Removed from elected office because they disagreed with central gov't.
Well said Derek you were wound up by the presenter but showed the Liverpool spirit .
@gedhession Yes! Almost all would say Militant was the best council we've had in last few decades. People like Terry Fields and Eric Heffer, Heffer especially so (even though he wasn't Militant, but strong Socialist)
Some people like the sound of their own voice! No self control at all this was the nutcase who wanted to blow up the Albert dock!
Derek Hatton you were Brilliant
Owen Jones must be the apprentice of this man-full of no-no-no-no's and impossible to shut him up.
Even Wolves' Roger Johnson would have defended the BBC's hatchet job better
No, Paul McAllister from Liverpool, Fazakerley.
Pure Alan Partridge lol
Fuck me, that is priceless! That'll be on 10 O'Clock Live next week :-D
Coming up next, we give a homeless man a shirt.
More than one in four were unemployed after Militant councillors went round in taxis handing out redundancy notices !!
Understand what you mean now mate.
Paulie mac from Swindon - probably.
Go on Derek! Haha. Used to be best mates with his son! Derek hasn't changed haha. He's actually a nice fella, just a big mouth on him
Fucking love degsy
Degsy rules
Another champagne socialist! 🤦
A lot of houses. Built under his watch
Financed with loans from Swiss banks and built to too small a scale in the heart of the city.
@@peterainsworth8026 So better to have no houses built? How would that have helped anything?
@@KennBurch The city wouldn't have had a crippling debt that stopped subsequent administrations from doing anything and inner city land would have been developed to an appropriate scale later on, instead of throwing up bungalows within metres of Paradise and William Brown St for example.
@@peterainsworth8026 If it was only developed as homes for the wealthy, it would be a far worse situation, just as it would be a betrayal if far fewer working-class homes were built, which would be the inevitable result of following "market values". And the bankruptcy was caused by Thatcher's unjust and antidemocratic ratecapping policy.
@@KennBurch Afraid to tell you this but market values are what Liverpool was built upon. The city has been a listless dying husk when the sole obsession has been with building corpy housing. The city is having its arse served to it while Manchester and other cities power ahead with huge amounts of private investment. Endless timewarp scouse myopia about Thatcher has achieved NOTHING.
Screwed 80s liverpool education up ....
he's gone up in my estimation
Stood up against the Tory government. If only more Labour Councils had done it in the 80s like they did in Liverpool! If only more Labour councils did it now! Fuck the Tory cuts! Vote TUSC in the 2021 local elections!
good con man - watch gbh
He’s a millionaire
Militant bankrupted Liverpool council and had to get a Swiss bank to bail them out.
The problem is that a lot of the common sense that Hattons speaks is lost in his appalling approach. When someone comes across as rude and arrogant that's often because they are rude and arrogant so any facts get lost in his 'ranting' - and there's no better word for it than the one used by the presenter: ranting. As ever, with Hatton, he never misses an opportunity to miss an opportunity
Civility is overrated
card holder
Hatton claims that under Militant many Liverpudlians got better housing and jobs. Would Liverpudlians who lived thru the 80s actually agree with that?
was right about bbc picking parts of the interview to make him look a mug but he shot him down haha hatton 1 state tv 0
What a Moby!!!
Poacher turned gamekeeper. motwyw
Mr Hatton was uninterviewable and Roger did the best he could
Loon.
If that wasn’t a rant … what was …
JUDAS
I doubt someone who can't spell was involved with a city council. Bore off.
Is he on drugs?