@@jemster38 are you serious?? This is a fucking sci-fi film remake from a 50s film. Now digital device like computere or phone are MUCH MORE ADVANCED. For example a modern ps4 is 387 times more powerful than a ps1.
@@helast3916 No, back then computers could predict results with complex algorithms from random non-existent data, as shown in movies like this and The Thing. The footage you see here is proof. We aren't able to do that anymore with the hardware we have now though, I just keyed in the questions shown here in Windows 10 but there were no answers.
Ikr? He looked like as if a physician that was just done with the medical checkup only to tell the patient that he/she has fourth stage cancer. Even his subdued reaction sells it.
I went to orthodontist to get my single croocked tooth fixed. Learnt I have three impacted canines. Saw the surgery on the internet. 2:04. Half a year and my smile will be perfect,it have been three years already.
He had a revelation a terrifying truth he just realized that he is a monster not a human or insect but an abomination and also he realized he's going to die that's what his eyes are saying
@@Velvettei So many people were heartbroken from his death( including me), that's why the film became a classic in horror film history and an everlasting tragic tale of what happens when you play god with science.
Just goes to show how truly terrifying insects are if they were even half our size. Seth was hybridized with one of the most harmless insects out there save for the diseases they spread. But an actual predator like a spider, praying mantis, or even an ant? Jeez.
I totally agree he always stayed in character as far as being a scientist, always theorizing what was happening to him in every new stage of his mutation, trying to understand and analyse his condition so that he could try to cure it great film!
@@djaytv1621 A spider? Oh you mean an organism that would have Brundle drooling venom from his jaws, secreting web, ans hiding in the dark? Yeah. That would definitely be more terrifying
and here arrives kiddies saying 'nah we still have good movies bla bla bla" nah kids we dont. hollywood havent made a good movie since iron man 3. it all went down hill after that. movies nowadays are so racially sensitive and politically correct. fun died somewhere.
I don't think it was denial. Rather I think he was asking if the fly was teleported and reconstructed whole within his body. He likely believed that genetic molecular fusion was possible, but the possibility that the fly ended up inside him reconstructed whole was his first conclusion.
It’s not denial. It’s a pretty relevant question. “Fusion” is a slightly vague answer. It could mean literal physical fusion (I.e., absorption) of fly and Brundle, which would be ok since It’s like mixing 1 part fly with 1,000,000 parts Brundle. Brundle only freaks when he realizes the computer stupidly (but logically) fused them 50/50 down to the genetic and molecular level.
"What is secondary element?" "Secondary Element is not Brundle" ...this and the way the computer reveals the Fly is the scariest shit I have ever witnessed. The director knew his shit!
Reminds me of the scene in John Carpenter's The Thing, when Blair uses the computer to discover how the alien assimilates human cells and it gives an estimate of how long it would take for the entire earth to be infected. Fills you with so much dread.
Blair's computer revealed the entire Earth would be infected 75,000 hours from first contact." Which would work out to around 8 1/2 years. Frighting when you consider the 4,617,386,542 people that were on the Earth at that time.
One thing that I love about this scene (and the whole film too) is how the horror of the truth is given gradually and in a crescendo of fear! Brundle is a scientist and after finding out about the presence of the fly in the teleportation chamber he reacts trying to remain logical and scientific, without panicking : he asks the computer what happened to the fly and when he receive the "fusion" answer he may be already suspecting what REALLY happened but he clings to a hope, he is like "ok, stay calm. maybe the fly has been only added somewhere to your body mass, it can be removed, everything is gonna to be allright,..." but then the computer gives the answer he feared the most and he realize that whatever will come he has no hope to stopping it!!!
@@rafaelarcas942 Well, you can. But as the sequel proved, it would result in having to sacrifice someone else's clean genetics by swapping theirs with yours.
@@gezenewsHe had three telepods. Should’ve just hopped into one and made it so the two sets of spliced DNA could be split and sent to one of the other two telepods. Seth in one. The fly in the other.
This is the scariest part of the movie for me. Just watching the horrific realization on Seth’s face when he finds out what happened makes it feel like it’s happening to you.
Yeah, no. This is just something funny to look at visually, but it doesn't convey any emotions at all lmfao. This is the true end 80's-beginning of 90s cinema history. They all had the same visual environment
That’s right, the computer just coldly and logically just handed him death sentence with a few words, and he knows it. Sure maybe not literally a death sentence, but his old life is effectively over and he is going into the unknown, very scary and Jeff sells the moment perfectly 😮
I read an article once from a geneticist where he was analyzing movies that deal in mutation and genetics. He said this movie actually got a huge amount right as far as what the transformation would look like & the final outcome. Pretty astonishing and frightening.
@@fernandoferreira6293 I think it's frightnening, the fact that if someone's DNA was fused with a fly's DNA they would look the way Brundle look during his mutation!
I once asked my biology teacher if this was possible and he laughed and said ha no. The only way this could be possible is if you gene edited an embryo and then had some artificial womb to make it. You couldnt turn a human into that. At most you could turn a human into an ape. Like a man becoming a gorilla or some hybrid of the two.
It's almost like the computer is relishing what's happened as well as brundle at the same time... The pauses between the computer thinking It's like it doesn't want to tell him .
I really think the computer, Brundle's ego and hubris manifest, doesn't get enough credit for being the real villain of the film. That fantastic ending "fusion of Brundlefly and Telepod successful", guy finally got the family he deserved
i agreed. only 10 percent of your body is YOU. The rest is bacteria microorganisms worms viruses parasites... and I'm not even the waste in your digestive system you have any idea just 1 gram of your feces contains? or the Bacterial flora in your colon?
@@MoonwalkerWorshiper yes but if that was the case the computer should have KNOWN that there would be things alive OTHER than Brundle. And simply NOT fuse all of that together into one being
These might be considered a negligible percentage of Bundle, having predictably been edited out of the relocating as an unnecessary burden. He did entertain the notion of having been purified by the process and that could've been in part from having instructed the teleporter to disregard microbes altogether. A much larger organism, however, might not have occurred to him then just yet. His horror may result from the realization of that oversight and the unfortunate consequences.
@i'm only here for the beer That's why I stick to the first rule of combat in case of any giant spider outbreak "get them before they get you." No better way to get them than a military grade MK II Flamethrower to theses silent predators. Then again fire would break their silence.
“Secondary element is Not-Brundle.” The reaction on his face is subtle but very good acting. It’s as if he saying, “There was something else in there with me?”
That's pretty impressive. I haven't the faintest clue even today. Saw it in theater and was the second greatest film I watched there. The first was The Silence of the Lambs, not coincidentally, also orchestrated by the genius of Howard Shore.
@@fernandoferreira6293 How come you still don’t know what it means? Are you trying to tell me you don’t get even a little bit upset about your own stupidity?
Technically it was an accident because the computer was confused at first because it didn't recognize the other living organism, (housefly), but still a neat discovery
@@Langkowskia single fat, taller, 4 eyed, 4 legged, 4 armed, 2 mouthed, 4 ears, 2 nose, 2 tougue midget. Basically a human spider midget minus the webs and costume. LOL
I ended up doing a video of the Top 7 "oh shit" moments discovered via computer. How it turned out: 7: Moon. 6: The Fly. 5: Alien. 4: The Incredibles. 3: Watchmen. 2: The Thing (1982). 1: Deep Impact.
Absolutely love this scene and one of the scariest scenes of the movie! So cool how this is able to be scary without showing brundle really deformed, it's the idea of not knowing what brundle's disease is going to do next and not having any control of stopping a horrible fate and the haunting musical score and goldblum's performance make it all come together!
It was defo the best remake ever, but to be fair, it didn't have that much to follow. The original was complete tosh in my IMO. Maybe a slightly harsh assessment given that was made in 1958, but I wasn't impressed with it.
This is such a disturbing film, but so well made. From the writing, to the performance the direction. It has this wonderfully romantic beginning. Covering love of life, discovery and romance. And then quickly transitions into this progressively surrealistic nightmare. Covering deterioration of physicality, humanity, etc.
They did such a phenomenal job as the movie goes on, making the audience feel extremely sympathetic for Seth. And Jeff seriously puts up an A+ performance!
Except he didnt turn right away If he would have went to the hospital or told one of his coleagues what happened maybe they could have analysed the machine and helped him but he refused to even try because he didnt want to be seen as a freak
@@user-pi3hd2bt3f They wouldn't have helped. You saw how Bartok was in the second movie. He had no intentions of helping Martin and wanted he metamorphosis to progress to use as specimen to further take his company ahead of everyone else.
Way worse At least with cancet you know what is going to happen Here you dont know nothing And became what he became to the end is way worse than death
To think that we thought it wildly unrealistic that he could enter those commands into the computer and get a response, and now with ChatGPT we are actually there technologically. Crazy.
I wish it was the fly that emerged from the pod after the fusion and the rest of the film is spent with his friends and family coming to terms with his transformation into jeff goldblum
It's funny how in the 80's movies the characters "talked" with the machines. In the movie Alien happens something similar, where you add a question on the screen and the computer responds as if it were an artificial intelligence
Well, Alien takes place 100 years in the future so it's believable that AI would have evolved to where a person can talk to a computer. Heck, getting closer to that every day with products like Alexa. But, the Fly was supposed to be in 1986.
That was a conceit from the 80's, wasn't it? I remember seeing "War Games" in 1983 and thinking the same thing. I argued with a friend about how computers really couldn't do that and he just didn't see it. People back then mostly didn't understand computers and what they could do or even how they really worked. So you could get away with a lot more.
@@duanebarry2817 Hi, there. You are forgitting something. The HAL 9000 from A space Odyssey movie. Back in the 1980's the Goverment has always been working on super computers that were not released to the public. These super computers back then where working on the AI. Now today, things are so much better for us to have home computers, cell phones, exc. Just wait a little while for computers to get more advance, like the Quantum Computers the GOV is working on now.
Love this movie and love this scene! Jeff goldblum was so versatile in this film, being able to show brundle's fear as his body falls apart, then being able to the fly characteristics slowly taking over him and showing the remnants of his humanity trying to fight his insect nature oscar worthy acting by Goldblum!
Interesting how this scene subtly answers the question of how Brundle wasn't merged with the microorganisms already within the human body; when he assumes that he just absorbed the fly, it suggests that the telepod was programmed to compensate for those kind of natural additional elements, but was 'unprepared' for a separate life-form of such relatively significant mass as the fly.
It's that look of sheer horror at the end, when it dawns on him that he, (in his original human form) is dead. That the fly, (in its original insect form) is dead, & that what he has become is the mutating offspring of both. Don't mess with mother nature
I know he can't turn back, because movie logic, but when you have a machine that breaks you down atom by atom and reassembles you in a different place, the machine needs to memorize the objects structure. So when he was fused yeah the machine was "confused" about the reassembly, but this scene shows that there is data on both objects pre-teleportation, so it would be possible to reassemble both objects before they were fused in the first place.
George Barbosa I know about that, however only the fusion was shown, but nevermind. If you look at it from a logical standpoint there are a couple of possible solutions to reverse the effect like finding a piece of hair from before teleportation. We know that the teleporter can scan and analyze objects of varying size, so we could theorize that it could create a dna template to reverse engineer Seth and the fly back, but whatever, still one of my all time favorite horror movie.
The problem was the nature in which he had been reconstituted. It was mass-to-mass. The machine literally rewrote his DNA. "My teleporter became a gene splicer." None of his genetic material existed in "clean." So it's not a matter of simply undoing it and separating the two entities. You need the right amount of pure-human DNA (mass thereof) to create a clean human now. That's why he had to reconnect pop 3 and try to use Veronica to get his humanity back.
However as explained in the movie, the change isn't instantaneous, so maybe the compounds of that matter change to the point of being irreversible. Kinda like growing up, or as the cancer analog they briefly mention in one scene.
Watching this scene decades after I saw this movie as a child brings back memories. I echo the sentiments around the power of that moment when the computer tells Brundle that it made an executive decision without any consultation or verification with Jeff (Brundle) of any kind whatsoever! To have a decision of that life altering scale made for you without so much of an interruption of the run sequence saying....2 elements in pod...are you sure you wish to proceed?? Terrifying to me!! This scene to me is far more terrifying than any gory later scenes with parts falling off and acid burning off hands and legs. The words “Molecular/Genetic level” will never be seen by me the same again it’s actually haunting!! I’ll end with this point looking at this FUSION scene much older now makes me fully appreciate in a way I never did at the time WHY Geena Davis was so adamant about having an abortion. Regardless of people’s views on either side of this issue, I can’t imagine the horror of a Half Brundle/Half Fly/Part Geena’s character growing inside her uterus! No debate from me decades later...Abortion in the context of THIS FUSION SCENE is the ONLY RIGHT DECISION from a self preservation standpoint!!!
Before he can teach the computer how to separate two organisms, all he has to do is to add a condition to the initialization. If there is any organic lifeform in the teleport, make sure there is only one kind inside or the sequence never starts. This is an important programming concept. You would prefer nothing happens to shit happens.
it's not possible. the teleporter machine joined the DNA of the two into one. It is like fertilizing a sperm with an egg, the father's DNA joins with the mother's DNA to form a new being. so it is impossible to separate them. brundley's dna merged with the fly's dna and they formed a new being.
Basically, in code, it’s just an ‘if’ statement. If this issue happens, abort. He didn’t consider any ifs before jumping in and doing a test on himself…even if there was dust or cleaning toxins in the pod, you wouldn’t want to fuse with that in your dna either. He was drunk/upset at the thought his mrs was banging someone else though…someone as intelligent as him, all said and done, would have considered the need for failsafes. They just would have. -There wouldn’t have been a film to watch if that were the case though, and this is a film after all…Brundle has an extremely high IQ though, so in some ways, not thinking about the potential scenarios is one factor that doesn’t hold up to legitimacy when considering his character in the film.
@@gruphenio6787 Actually, I believe he took all that into consideration, if not in the teleportation he would have been fused with the bacteria of his body. The assimilate part he asks supports my claim. As genius as he is he can still make errors, nobody is likely to think that in a telepod a fly is going to enter.
When I was a little kid I watched the Goosebumps episode Stay Out Of The Basement & thought it was terrifying the way the man was becoming a plant monster. If only I knew that was pretty tame compared to this.
It's funny how a ordinary fly slowly became his worst nightmare after the machine got confused and somehow combined both him and the fly together. Love this film to death, it is easily one of my favorite body horror films!
It's at this point that he should have involved top computer coders and genetic specialists. The might have been able to reverse the sequence and separate the genetic fusion.
Since there wasn't supposed to be two completely different organisms in the telepod, the computer became confused on how it was supposed to put them together separately, and simply spliced them together... Remember, Seth Brundle had to completely re-instruct the computer the organic/molecular structure of mammals, and hadn't taught it the structure of arthropods yet...
@@MoonwalkerWorshiper- I don't know... It's a movie storyline... Were it real life, leaving out info regarding arthropods in the computer mainframe probably would've resulted in shutting down the entire process before it started - the very minute the fly was detected...
@@jessealvarez779 the film touches on an important point on a philosophical level, what is the difference between what is natural and what is artificial, what is alive and what is dead? for a machine there is no difference between 2 living organisms other than the different DNA sequences therefore even though Brundle did not programme the computer to stop the process when finding a second element in the telepod the machine interpreted it as organic matter and fulfilling its mission of teleportation implies that all the material that is in pod1 arrives at pod2 without any type of restriction programmed by Brundle meaning that the fusion of both subjects results in a satisfactory result since the computer performed the successful teleportation.
As a molecular genetics guy myself I loved this sequence. It all came down to the fact he'd failed to program failsafes into the teleporter. One as simple as what to do in case it found two distinct organisms in the pod when doing matter analysis. It definitely could tell there *was* two organisms there - but not what to do with them. So it ran the sequence anyway, and did what it was programmed to do - deliver one organism to the other pod. And then the dawning horror when it showed what it had scanned in that pod, besides just himself. A fly. What happened to the fly? "Fusion." Define: "Fusion." "Fusion of Brundle and fly at the molecular genetic level." It had *spliced their chromosomes together.* And then he knew that the ride had just started, and it was going to get very, very, *very* rough.
On est trop en stress pour lui, le pauvre ! En voyant son regard écarquillé à la lecture de la dernière phrase de l'ordi, on comprend en même temps que lui que le pire est à venir !! Je n'ai jamais osé regarder le film en entier mais Jeff Goldblum assure dans ce rôle.
In the Italian dubbing of the movie (most likely because at the time the film was released English was not as commonly used as today) Brundle's questions to the computer were read in Italian by Goldblum's dubber while the computer's answers were given with an electronic artificial voice. The computer voice was somewhat garbled and it was even hard to tell if it was male or female (it was similar to the voice used by some early electronic devices or pc, like the speak and say). I think it added a nice touch of sci-fi to the movie but still the original scene is better, just listening to the music gives you a great feeling of fear gradually growing into pure horror!
If the computer was that smart he should’ve been able to set it to re-teleport himself while phasing out any of the genetic material identified in the fly portion of the synthesis. I stand pretty firm on that being the biggest plot hole.
i mean it couldve if he realised he had fused to the fly right after the teleportation, as his self had already started its mutation at that point. I dont think that computer would reverse the mutation.
@@tetrapigpower4660 I get what you’re saying. It’s a one way street. The machine can combine but not separate after mutating together. I like that, it’s plausible.
@@terminald7064 Like I've pointed out before, defusion is possible if the computer aquire sufficient tools for it. Brundle would need to sit down and develop a new project with his telepod-software (as long as he's able to work in his condition). In a sci fi world where fusion like this can happen, reverse engineering is just as possible because it plays by the same rules of molecular-genetic tinkering. You can't make an arbitrary special pleading case for defusion just because Brundlefly goes through bodily development. What matters is the genetic code. Seth Brundle teleported himself at a certain point in time where he was of a particular age, and did not come out the other pod an elderly man or infant, since that part of his being's design had apparently been understood. Same for Brundlefly. Doesn't matter at what age or state of mutation the organism is in. Wanna know how it's done? Okay. A new housefly has to be scanned in a pod, to map pure fly genes. Then his girlfriend has to step in and be scanned in the same way to map pure human genes. With those tools the computer should be able to identify man genes and fly genes in a hybrid with both types of genes. The new fly is let inside the third telepod, the receiveing pod, while Brundlefly steps into telepod 1. Instead of merging again, the process will now do a swap where all fly genes in all genetic material is transported to the reciever pod and Brundlefly is transported to telepod 2. At that point, the organism stepping out of pod 2 would be Brundle only. In pod 3 there would simply be a mutated fly. If there are gaps in Brundle's DNA that makes him weak as he return to pure human then perhaps he needs to undergo some sort of medical treatment to regain shape and health. I do think that there is a point of no return when it comes to a normal human body vs a deformed human body, so even if all fly genetics were removed, the effect of the mutation he went through would still have repercussions on his human body. If he have lost his ears, he have lost his ears, and might have to wear prosthetic ears the rest of his human life. That was fun to type :)
As horrific as the information that's revealed in this scene is, there's something morbidly humorous about Seth STILL attempting to chew his nails while he's waiting for the "secondary element" to be identified, as if he's so preoccupied by finding the information out that he's forgotten he pulled most of them out just moments before.
Here I was (I didn't watch the movie) thinking that the transformation started and he lost his fingers or something. I thought the gloves were to hide his deformed hands. But NO, it actually was that the actor types like a secretary?
@@reginageorge7666 *Tries to type without nails* *realises that I can't since I have nails* Do you really need nails to type though? He still has fingers right?
@@rubenaalexander5007 his nails fell off his index fingers. there were nails on his other fingers, but they were brittle, so he was typing with two fingers bc he didn't want to lose other nails.
Because the fly was so small the transformation process was much slower the computer wasn’t sure how to fully fuse them together so The Fly In Seth was being reborn and evolving causing Seth to slowly transform into a Fly. If the subject was much larger he would have instantly transformed. What I don’t get is he had 3 pods why didn’t he just split him and the fly apart. My only guess is by the end Seth’s DNA had been completely rewritten that the computer wouldn’t know how to or wouldn’t be able to split them apart because there wasn’t enough of Seth left because The Fly DNA had completely taken over.
Interesting theory, so he could’ve saved himself if he had caught on sooner that his body was different. Unfortunately we’ll never really know if it would’ve worked, and if he did find out about it sooner it would probably take too long to extract the fly out of him.
You're wrong, a creature doesn't rewrite its own DNA during it's life. The computer created the Brundlefly DNA, period. To defuse man gene from fly gene, the computer need to be taught what pure human genes are and what pure fly genes are, then identify them in a creature with both. If a host needs to cover all fly genes for defusion to happen then Brundle simply teleport himself with a new fly and use that fly as a garbage can. This would also mean that Ronnie needs to teleport herself in the pods one time to save Seth's life, or at least agree to be scanned in the pods for the computer to learn pure human DNA.
To remove the fly from his DNA after fusion, is on par with trying to restore eggs in their shells, milk in a beaker, and toppings as they were initially after creating an omelette… - no chance. When he realised what had happened, his character knew he was screwed and any attempts to undo would be in vain. The film prolongs his attempts to try to do this though, mainly to a) promote his love of life, and b) build sympathy from the audience.
The reason for the slow transformation into the fly is more for the sake of film scripture…the original Fly movie had an instant transformation, and that film just didn’t work as well with suspense. - his DNA was fused 50/50 with a fly, the size of the two physically is irrelevant really.
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Imagine the fly slowly losing two of it's legs and it's eyes get smaller and it's wings fall off and it eventually becomes a tiny Jeff Goldblum.
that would be hilarious
Have you ever heard of human politics?
That would make for a good comedy movie
The original one have an scene like that lmao
@@Jose_Pecina Do you mean the one from 1958?
The main lesson of this movie: Keep your workstation clean and sanitized.
Also, never drink and do science at the same time.
If you doing human experiment do it on someone else
@@darknarutokit this guy gets it
Don’t be jealous too
have an insect net!!
Ah the classic 80's computers that aswered direct questions, I think the movie The Thing also had one of those
Nowadays, Alexa or Hey Google would speak of your impending doom in a soothing voice.
Technology was more advanced back then.
@@jemster38 are you serious??
This is a fucking sci-fi film remake from a 50s film.
Now digital device like computere or phone are MUCH MORE ADVANCED.
For example a modern ps4 is 387 times more powerful than a ps1.
@@helast3916 No, back then computers could predict results with complex algorithms from random non-existent data, as shown in movies like this and The Thing. The footage you see here is proof.
We aren't able to do that anymore with the hardware we have now though, I just keyed in the questions shown here in Windows 10 but there were no answers.
@@jemster38 no lol. the thing is just a film none of these thing existed in real life
It’s the way he reacts to the words ‘Fusion of Brundle and fly at molecular-genetic level’ that gets me every time...
He knew he was screwed.
@@jrewing1512 that's 'eat a bullet' time.
As a scientist, he knew it was over for him and there was no turning back!
Ikr? He looked like as if a physician that was just done with the medical checkup only to tell the patient that he/she has fourth stage cancer. Even his subdued reaction sells it.
Он в шоке ото того что понимает какая это жесть …
This scene perfectly encapsulates what it's like getting a bad diagnosis from the doctor.
I agree. I've just been sick myself. Doctor diagnosed it as just something viral.
Yes...the anxious feeling of waiting for a response from a cold machine...
I went to orthodontist to get my single croocked tooth fixed.
Learnt I have three impacted canines.
Saw the surgery on the internet.
2:04.
Half a year and my smile will be perfect,it have been three years already.
Great observation. Cronenberg has said the theme of the film is based on the aging process, and not AIDS like a lot of people assumed in the 80s.
And you are the doctor
This scientist was so preoccupied with whether he could that he didn't stop and think if he should.
Nice, you referenced another movie Goldblum was in, very clever.
Life uh... finds a way.
@@thewildbruce5612 To make me vomit!
@@Reapermaskhybrid its like all my nightmares fused into one, cloned itself, f*ck the clone and then make those!!
@@Fei-Chan That's a frighteningly accurate description!
That look of pure horror and realization on Goldblum’s face at the end is incredible
Lol he just opened his eyes whats incredible about it?
He had a revelation a terrifying truth he just realized that he is a monster not a human or insect but an abomination and also he realized he's going to die that's what his eyes are saying
@@leswilliams5836
The eyes have it
@Sam exactly 🤝
@@leswilliams5836
Brundle is already dead. He just realized it now.
The ending to this movie is one of the most heartbreaking of all-time. This movie was a rollercoaster of emotions
I thought I was the only one who was heartbroken of what happened to brundle😭
@@Velvettei So many people were heartbroken from his death( including me), that's why the film became a classic in horror film history and an everlasting tragic tale of what happens when you play god with science.
I watched a lot as a kid, I wanted to understand it all, and more lol
Titanic left the game
It’s kinda hilarious how many alternate endings there are and how BAD they are compared to the theatrical ending , god
Imagine if it wasn't a fly that went into the telepod, but a spider.
They did a movie with that idea, Earth vs the Spider in 2001.
what about an Ant
That would be even more horrifying
That wouldn't be so bad though. Spider > Fly
Just goes to show how truly terrifying insects are if they were even half our size. Seth was hybridized with one of the most harmless insects out there save for the diseases they spread. But an actual predator like a spider, praying mantis, or even an ant? Jeez.
he still approaches the problem like a scientist, patiently asking questions, not jumping to conclusions
Hes stronger than me. The moment that creepy fly graphic popped up I would have lost my shit
daustin8888 The moment it said something else was in there, I’d have freaked out
@@JiuJitsuTrashcan True, the whole conceptis scary as hell. The Fly is set in the Star Trek universe. The Federation has just covered it up.
I totally agree he always stayed in character as far as being a scientist, always theorizing what was happening to him in every new stage of his mutation, trying to understand and analyse his condition so that he could try to cure it great film!
@@JiuJitsuTrashcan”secondary element is not (your name)” would’ve had me signing up for euthanasia
1:16 Jesus Christ that graphic of the fly still creeps me out.
The most grotesque, inhuman thing imaginable, invading your body.
Nightmare fuel
Yes that is an excellent shot. Do you think being infused with a rat, mouse, roach, or roly poly would be worse?
@@aaronflowers8881 or spider perhaps
@@djaytv1621 yes
@@djaytv1621 A spider? Oh you mean an organism that would have Brundle drooling venom from his jaws, secreting web, ans hiding in the dark?
Yeah. That would definitely be more terrifying
Flies are repugnant, for sure. The fact they get everywhere makes them a perfect choice for this film
Movies don’t have quiet moments like these that lead to a stunning revelation anymore. Less is often better.
Movies don't have movies anymore. They're only moves. Thus, they move nothing.
The Fly and The Thing execute those scenes perfectly of the quiet moments that are just filled with dread and horror!
It’s sad tbh… I miss the intensity of older movies.
Quiet? The musics loud as shit
and here arrives kiddies saying 'nah we still have good movies bla bla bla" nah kids we dont. hollywood havent made a good movie since iron man 3. it all went down hill after that. movies nowadays are so racially sensitive and politically correct. fun died somewhere.
i like when he ask "assimilation? did fly absorb fly?"
it shows his denial
Lol
M Faizal Reza yeah that expression had the right “Fuck meeee” element
M Faizal Reza He was asking if he had absorbed the fly, not if the fly had absorbed itself, he is brundle.
I don't think it was denial.
Rather I think he was asking if the fly was teleported and reconstructed whole within his body. He likely believed that genetic molecular fusion was possible, but the possibility that the fly ended up inside him reconstructed whole was his first conclusion.
It’s not denial. It’s a pretty relevant question. “Fusion” is a slightly vague answer. It could mean literal physical fusion (I.e., absorption) of fly and Brundle, which would be ok since It’s like mixing 1 part fly with 1,000,000 parts Brundle.
Brundle only freaks when he realizes the computer stupidly (but logically) fused them 50/50 down to the genetic and molecular level.
"What is secondary element?"
"Secondary Element is not Brundle" ...this and the way the computer reveals the Fly is the scariest shit I have ever witnessed. The director knew his shit!
cronenberg also did this during the Assimilation computer scene in THE THING..which was so scary
The look of fear and confusion on Brundle's face when he saw " Secondary Element is not Brundle" was so well acted by Goldblum!
Negative. Secondary director is not Cronenberg.
Jeff Goldblum plays Brundle so brilliantly. His eyes, when he recognizes, that there was a fusion between him and a fly....
Creepy, das Flauschgerippe he be like “oh shit...I’m The Fly Guy!”
He’s the only actor of any era who could’ve played the part so well, and it’s the only part he could’ve played so well.
That has to be the scariest moment of his life. And he can't stop it.
@@user-wi3yx3gy2o My favorite actor next to Will Smith.
@@hollyparry1210 Guess your favorite film must be ID4!
Reminds me of the scene in John Carpenter's The Thing, when Blair uses the computer to discover how the alien assimilates human cells and it gives an estimate of how long it would take for the entire earth to be infected.
Fills you with so much dread.
Both musical cues as well share in uneasiness feeling. Classic stuff!
I've always thought the exact same thing, the computer answered direct questions much like in this scene here.
Yep both scenes are almost identical
@Robert Paulson
Agreed
Blair's computer revealed the entire Earth would be infected 75,000 hours from first contact." Which would work out to around 8 1/2 years. Frighting when you consider the 4,617,386,542 people that were on the Earth at that time.
I love how 80s movies have these perfect ai computers that can answer any question
And we've yet to master it but we're close
Also 8k displays
One thing that I love about this scene (and the whole film too) is how the horror of the truth is given gradually and in a crescendo of fear! Brundle is a scientist and after finding out about the presence of the fly in the teleportation chamber he reacts trying to remain logical and scientific, without panicking : he asks the computer what happened to the fly and when he receive the "fusion" answer he may be already suspecting what REALLY happened but he clings to a hope, he is like "ok, stay calm. maybe the fly has been only added somewhere to your body mass, it can be removed, everything is gonna to be allright,..." but then the computer gives the answer he feared the most and he realize that whatever will come he has no hope to stopping it!!!
Why couldn’t he have find a cure?
@@brandonbishopvlogs2839 you cannot just “break” a fusion on genetic-molecular level !
@@rafaelarcas942 Well, you can. But as the sequel proved, it would result in having to sacrifice someone else's clean genetics by swapping theirs with yours.
@@gezenewsHe had three telepods. Should’ve just hopped into one and made it so the two sets of spliced DNA could be split and sent to one of the other two telepods. Seth in one. The fly in the other.
@@gezenews Oh right, that second movie must've poisoned my mind a bit. I guess once you're spliced, there's no reversing it.
This is the scariest part of the movie for me. Just watching the horrific realization on Seth’s face when he finds out what happened makes it feel like it’s happening to you.
Yeah, no. This is just something funny to look at visually, but it doesn't convey any emotions at all lmfao. This is the true end 80's-beginning of 90s cinema history. They all had the same visual environment
@@misterxmistery7424
It does indeed convey emotions even if you yourself did not feel them
Love people who argue this stuff
That’s right, the computer just coldly and logically just handed him death sentence with a few words, and he knows it. Sure maybe not literally a death sentence, but his old life is effectively over and he is going into the unknown, very scary and Jeff sells the moment perfectly 😮
This scene is the equivalent of Blair's 27.000 hours scene from The Thing.
I read an article once from a geneticist where he was analyzing movies that deal in mutation and genetics. He said this movie actually got a huge amount right as far as what the transformation would look like & the final outcome. Pretty astonishing and frightening.
I believe you. However, I do not feel it's frightening.
I think it's ecstatic.
@@fernandoferreira6293 I think it's frightnening, the fact that if someone's DNA was fused with a fly's DNA they would look the way Brundle look during his mutation!
What was the name of the article?
@@doxscund8821 I wish I could tell you friend. It was a long time ago.
I once asked my biology teacher if this was possible and he laughed and said ha no.
The only way this could be possible is if you gene edited an embryo and then had some artificial womb to make it. You couldnt turn a human into that. At most you could turn a human into an ape. Like a man becoming a gorilla or some hybrid of the two.
It's almost like the computer is relishing what's happened as well as brundle at the same time...
The pauses between the computer thinking
It's like it doesn't want to tell him .
It’s just for dramatic tension for the audience.
@@peterp2153
Very SLOW clap ..
@@peterp2153 Wooooow, we have a genius here.
I really think the computer, Brundle's ego and hubris manifest, doesn't get enough credit for being the real villain of the film. That fantastic ending "fusion of Brundlefly and Telepod successful", guy finally got the family he deserved
“Life finds a way” -
I understand this reference hahaha
In a pretty horrific way...
jeff goldblum said that in jurrasic park; however i think he said ''nature finds a way.''
@@himurogemma6032 even scarier.
Chaos theory
Brundle: "So does this mean I can fly"?
Computer: "NEGATIVE"
Brundle: "NOOOOOOOOOOOOO"!
LOL!!!!
Lmfaoooo
2:03 I love that WTF look. Love these scientific horror films with no spirits or witches.
matthewakian2 One of the best wtf looks in cinematic history. Jeff Goldblum is amazing in this movie.
It's where science goes wrong when you mess with things you weren't meant to. That's truly scary.
U can tell he was horrified when he read fusion at genetic molecular level
yes obviously. that was the point of the expression he acted out
It was at that moment he knew he was screwed.
I'd be scared too, but I wouldn't want just give up on life either.
TropiCool but what does that mean though??
@@MedicUbercharged The only way could fix it was to use another human subject to filter it out.
Definitely one of the greatest “oh shit!” Moments in all of film.
Masterpiece of 80's.
Kudos to David Cronenberg.
Imagine the fusion with all the mites, fungi and microorganisms that have also entered the pod.
Suspension of disbelief and sci fi. Supposedly air is being teleported aswell.
i agreed. only 10 percent of your body is YOU. The rest is bacteria microorganisms worms viruses parasites... and I'm not even the waste in your digestive system you have any idea just 1 gram of your feces contains? or the Bacterial flora in your colon?
@@MoonwalkerWorshiper yes but if that was the case the computer should have KNOWN that there would be things alive OTHER than Brundle. And simply NOT fuse all of that together into one being
@@matvangogh Brundle's microorganisms are in symbios with his DNA. The fly's biological structure however isn't.
These might be considered a negligible percentage of Bundle, having predictably been edited out of the relocating as an unnecessary burden. He did entertain the notion of having been purified by the process and that could've been in part from having instructed the teleporter to disregard microbes altogether. A much larger organism, however, might not have occurred to him then just yet. His horror may result from the realization of that oversight and the unfortunate consequences.
This movie scared me a lot when I was a kid. Especially the ending when his face falls off.
Ikr, it still creeps me out until this day XD
Which is scarier? Turning into a human fly hybrid, or being eaten by a spider? I still can't get pass the ending to the 1960s film.
Mee too. I had nightmares until I was 15.
@i'm only here for the beer That's why I stick to the first rule of combat in case of any giant spider outbreak "get them before they get you." No better way to get them than a military grade MK II Flamethrower to theses silent predators. Then again fire would break their silence.
Same man! It made me cry when I was little
“Secondary element is Not-Brundle.”
The reaction on his face is subtle but very good acting. It’s as if he saying, “There was something else in there with me?”
Agree with you completely, Goldblum is brilliant in this scene at showing the subtle fear in his face!
To me it was: "I know that now dummy. But what is it?"
2:03 One of the best "what have I done" moments in cinema history
More of an "Oh, Crap!" moment, really.
This part scared me as a child. At 6 years old I knew what molecular-genetic level meant.
At age 5 when i saw this on video in 87 with my 11 year brother and parents, i knew what Molecular genetic level means thanks to PBS and other movies
That's pretty impressive. I haven't the faintest clue even today. Saw it in theater and was the second greatest film I watched there. The first was The Silence of the Lambs, not coincidentally, also orchestrated by the genius of Howard Shore.
@@fernandoferreira6293 How come you still don’t know what it means? Are you trying to tell me you don’t get even a little bit upset about your own stupidity?
His machine is amazing.
It can teleport object, and even capable to perform genetic fusion without asking.
Technically it was an accident because the computer was confused at first because it didn't recognize the other living organism, (housefly), but still a neat discovery
A few days later.. Marcus: this could be useful.
yes his teleport machine literally became a genetic fusion system lol
I wonder what would happen if two midges, perhaps identical twins, tried it. Would it just be a single fat midget, or a taller midget.
@@Langkowskia single fat, taller, 4 eyed, 4 legged, 4 armed, 2 mouthed, 4 ears, 2 nose, 2 tougue midget. Basically a human spider midget minus the webs and costume. LOL
Quite possibly the most authentic “oh shit” moment in cinematic history.
I ended up doing a video of the Top 7 "oh shit" moments discovered via computer. How it turned out:
7: Moon.
6: The Fly.
5: Alien.
4: The Incredibles.
3: Watchmen.
2: The Thing (1982).
1: Deep Impact.
Jeff golblum with those bugged out eyes was perfect for this role lol
Jeff Goldblum is the greatest actor I've seen. Next to Will Smith, but yes definitely.
@@hollyparry1210 guess you've seen independence day.
Absolutely love this scene and one of the scariest scenes of the movie! So cool how this is able to be scary without showing brundle really deformed, it's the idea of not knowing what brundle's disease is going to do next and not having any control of stopping a horrible fate and the haunting musical score and goldblum's performance make it all come together!
The best remake ever. A fantastic job did Cronemberg on this, and Jeff Goldblum´s performance is superb.
Chris Walas deserves a mention as well.
It was defo the best remake ever, but to be fair, it didn't have that much to follow. The original was complete tosh in my IMO. Maybe a slightly harsh assessment given that was made in 1958, but I wasn't impressed with it.
1:50 an inadvertent nod to another great remake. You can't say 'assimilation' and not think of John Carpenter's _The Thing_
This is such a disturbing film, but so well made. From the writing, to the performance the direction. It has this wonderfully romantic beginning. Covering love of life, discovery and romance. And then quickly transitions into this progressively surrealistic nightmare. Covering deterioration of physicality, humanity, etc.
The Fly is one of the saddest films ever and everytime I watch the movie, it never fails to leave me heartbroken from the tragic love story!
I've never seen a word "Negative" more scary than in this moment.
They did such a phenomenal job as the movie goes on, making the audience feel extremely sympathetic for Seth. And Jeff seriously puts up an A+ performance!
To think their first choice was Malkovich
@@dnasty312Malkovich would ve been great and i m glad Cronenberg went with Goldblum.
The sad thing is, his technology is so advanced at that time, nobody can help him.
Except he didnt turn right away
If he would have went to the hospital or told one of his coleagues what happened maybe they could have analysed the machine and helped him but he refused to even try because he didnt want to be seen as a freak
@@user-pi3hd2bt3f They wouldn't have helped. You saw how Bartok was in the second movie. He had no intentions of helping Martin and wanted he metamorphosis to progress to use as specimen to further take his company ahead of everyone else.
Regardless of technology, how can you filter DNA to remove the fly components? You can’t. If you could, all diseases could be cured
He forgot to build undue the process in case it goes wrong
Seth was truly a tragic figure.
This part made me anxious, i imagined myself in that situation
Same here. This movie is good at that
I'd be too scared to think straight lol
it was at this moment Brundle knew he f'd up
This scene is so intense and suspenseful. Imagine the horror of finding this out. I really like this scene.
I feel like this would be worse than hearing your doctor say you have only six months to live due to cancer.
Way worse
At least with cancet you know what is going to happen
Here you dont know nothing
And became what he became to the end is way worse than death
To think that we thought it wildly unrealistic that he could enter those commands into the computer and get a response, and now with ChatGPT we are actually there technologically. Crazy.
The computer's cold, unfeeling answers really add to the horror.
Loved how that computer understand english very well.
I wish it was the fly that emerged from the pod after the fusion and the rest of the film is spent with his friends and family coming to terms with his transformation into jeff goldblum
That's is the rebooth.
Submit that idea to Mad Magazine or Saturday Night Live and see if it takes off, it's not a bad idea!
The most horrifying scene in the whole movie. The realization.
It's funny how in the 80's movies the characters "talked" with the machines. In the movie Alien happens something similar, where you add a question on the screen and the computer responds as if it were an artificial intelligence
lots of scifi has computers with personality
Well, Alien takes place 100 years in the future so it's believable that AI would have evolved to where a person can talk to a computer. Heck, getting closer to that every day with products like Alexa. But, the Fly was supposed to be in 1986.
That was a conceit from the 80's, wasn't it? I remember seeing "War Games" in 1983 and thinking the same thing. I argued with a friend about how computers really couldn't do that and he just didn't see it. People back then mostly didn't understand computers and what they could do or even how they really worked. So you could get away with a lot more.
@@duanebarry2817 Hi, there. You are forgitting something. The HAL 9000 from A space Odyssey movie. Back in the 1980's the Goverment has always been working on super computers that were not released to the public. These super computers back then where working on the AI. Now today, things are so much better for us to have home computers, cell phones, exc. Just wait a little while for computers to get more advance, like the Quantum Computers the GOV is working on now.
Love this movie and love this scene! Jeff goldblum was so versatile in this film, being able to show brundle's fear as his body falls apart, then being able to the fly characteristics slowly taking over him and showing the remnants of his humanity trying to fight his insect nature oscar worthy acting by Goldblum!
Interesting how this scene subtly answers the question of how Brundle wasn't merged with the microorganisms already within the human body; when he assumes that he just absorbed the fly, it suggests that the telepod was programmed to compensate for those kind of natural additional elements, but was 'unprepared' for a separate life-form of such relatively significant mass as the fly.
*WARNING:* Foreign carbon organic based matter detected. Teleportation sequence aborted.
But nooooooooooo...
There is carbon based organic matter in the air too, but let's not worry about that.
Seth Brundle is a carbon based organic organism soooo...
*Foreign.*
It's that look of sheer horror at the end, when it dawns on him that he, (in his original human form) is dead. That the fly, (in its original insect form) is dead, & that what he has become is the mutating offspring of both. Don't mess with mother nature
I saw this at the movies when I was 10 and I remember literally getting depressed at this part🤣
The look on his face when he realized what computer did was amazing.
For me it was the horror of when he zoomed out to see the fly itself...
On one hand, he's doomed.
On the other, he's won like every single Nobel Prize ever.
the computer's answer is so frightening... damn i remember this scene it's all the begenning of the gory horror
I know he can't turn back, because movie logic, but when you have a machine that breaks you down atom by atom and reassembles you in a different place, the machine needs to memorize the objects structure. So when he was fused yeah the machine was "confused" about the reassembly, but this scene shows that there is data on both objects pre-teleportation, so it would be possible to reassemble both objects before they were fused in the first place.
George Barbosa I know about that, however only the fusion was shown, but nevermind. If you look at it from a logical standpoint there are a couple of possible solutions to reverse the effect like finding a piece of hair from before teleportation. We know that the teleporter can scan and analyze objects of varying size, so we could theorize that it could create a dna template to reverse engineer Seth and the fly back, but whatever, still one of my all time favorite horror movie.
The problem was the nature in which he had been reconstituted. It was mass-to-mass. The machine literally rewrote his DNA. "My teleporter became a gene splicer." None of his genetic material existed in "clean." So it's not a matter of simply undoing it and separating the two entities. You need the right amount of pure-human DNA (mass thereof) to create a clean human now. That's why he had to reconnect pop 3 and try to use Veronica to get his humanity back.
+László Kiss
Don't be silly, within the context of the movie they have not invented any machine to reverse the process of genetic fusion ...
However as explained in the movie, the change isn't instantaneous, so maybe the compounds of that matter change to the point of being irreversible. Kinda like growing up, or as the cancer analog they briefly mention in one scene.
@@OpenMawProductions will the fly change as well since it also got fused with brundles dna?
the look at the end and the reaction says everything. Like a scientist that would make a discovery of horror.
Watching this scene decades after I saw this movie as a child brings back memories. I echo the sentiments around the power of that moment when the computer tells Brundle that it made an executive decision without any consultation or verification with Jeff (Brundle) of any kind whatsoever! To have a decision of that life altering scale made for you without so much of an interruption of the run sequence saying....2 elements in pod...are you sure you wish to proceed?? Terrifying to me!! This scene to me is far more terrifying than any gory later scenes with parts falling off and acid burning off hands and legs. The words “Molecular/Genetic level” will never be seen by me the same again it’s actually haunting!!
I’ll end with this point looking at this FUSION scene much older now makes me fully appreciate in a way I never did at the time WHY Geena Davis was so adamant about having an abortion. Regardless of people’s views on either side of this issue, I can’t imagine the horror of a Half Brundle/Half Fly/Part Geena’s character growing inside her uterus! No debate from me decades later...Abortion in the context of THIS FUSION SCENE is the ONLY RIGHT DECISION from a self preservation standpoint!!!
Once the computer said fusion at the molecular genetic level he knew he was a dead man.
Before he can teach the computer how to separate two organisms, all he has to do is to add a condition to the initialization. If there is any organic lifeform in the teleport, make sure there is only one kind inside or the sequence never starts. This is an important programming concept. You would prefer nothing happens to shit happens.
it's not possible. the teleporter machine joined the DNA of the two into one. It is like fertilizing a sperm with an egg, the father's DNA joins with the mother's DNA to form a new being. so it is impossible to separate them. brundley's dna merged with the fly's dna and they formed a new being.
@@janainadepaula7469 ну во втором фильме Мартин нашёл способ , замена генов … хотя второй фильм конечно не о чем .
@@janainadepaula7469 I dont know if you have watched the fly 2, so wont spoil you but just dont be so sure that this is imposible, to change the DNA
Basically, in code, it’s just an ‘if’ statement. If this issue happens, abort.
He didn’t consider any ifs before jumping in and doing a test on himself…even if there was dust or cleaning toxins in the pod, you wouldn’t want to fuse with that in your dna either.
He was drunk/upset at the thought his mrs was banging someone else though…someone as intelligent as him, all said and done, would have considered the need for failsafes. They just would have.
-There wouldn’t have been a film to watch if that were the case though, and this is a film after all…Brundle has an extremely high IQ though, so in some ways, not thinking about the potential scenarios is one factor that doesn’t hold up to legitimacy when considering his character in the film.
@@gruphenio6787 Actually, I believe he took all that into consideration, if not in the teleportation he would have been fused with the bacteria of his body. The assimilate part he asks supports my claim. As genius as he is he can still make errors, nobody is likely to think that in a telepod a fly is going to enter.
When I was a little kid I watched the Goosebumps episode Stay Out Of The Basement & thought it was terrifying the way the man was becoming a plant monster. If only I knew that was pretty tame compared to this.
"Brundle, Seth. Give me a disk. Uh, I need the first teleportation, S. Brundle."
A beautiful execution of body language and all without words. Lovely. Gives you the creeps.
IF PRIMARY ELEMENT IS BRUNDLE,
WHAT IS SECONDARY ELEMENT?
> SECONDARY ELEMENT IS NOT- BRUNDLE
The real tragedy is what are the chances of a fly just happening to wind up in that machine at that moment 😕
Chaos theory.
It's funny how a ordinary fly slowly became his worst nightmare after the machine got confused and somehow combined both him and the fly together. Love this film to death, it is easily one of my favorite body horror films!
It's at this point that he should have involved top computer coders and genetic specialists. The might have been able to reverse the sequence and separate the genetic fusion.
Yup I’m sure he had scientist friends. I am wondering if they could’ve solved this
you and the fly are the same thing. It is scary. When I first saw him, I was a kid and I was terrified of that conclusion.
Since there wasn't supposed to be two completely different organisms in the telepod, the computer became confused on how it was supposed to put them together separately, and simply spliced them together... Remember, Seth Brundle had to completely re-instruct the computer the organic/molecular structure of mammals, and hadn't taught it the structure of arthropods yet...
If it couldn't understand arthropod genetic structure then how was it able to merge it with mammal genetic structure?
@@MoonwalkerWorshiper- I don't know... It's a movie storyline... Were it real life, leaving out info regarding arthropods in the computer mainframe probably would've resulted in shutting down the entire process before it started - the very minute the fly was detected...
The flesh made the computer crazy...
@@jessealvarez779 the film touches on an important point on a philosophical level, what is the difference between what is natural and what is artificial, what is alive and what is dead? for a machine there is no difference between 2 living organisms other than the different DNA sequences therefore even though Brundle did not programme the computer to stop the process when finding a second element in the telepod the machine interpreted it as organic matter and fulfilling its mission of teleportation implies that all the material that is in pod1 arrives at pod2 without any type of restriction programmed by Brundle meaning that the fusion of both subjects results in a satisfactory result since the computer performed the successful teleportation.
As a molecular genetics guy myself I loved this sequence. It all came down to the fact he'd failed to program failsafes into the teleporter. One as simple as what to do in case it found two distinct organisms in the pod when doing matter analysis. It definitely could tell there *was* two organisms there - but not what to do with them. So it ran the sequence anyway, and did what it was programmed to do - deliver one organism to the other pod.
And then the dawning horror when it showed what it had scanned in that pod, besides just himself.
A fly.
What happened to the fly?
"Fusion."
Define: "Fusion."
"Fusion of Brundle and fly at the molecular genetic level." It had *spliced their chromosomes together.*
And then he knew that the ride had just started, and it was going to get very, very, *very* rough.
On est trop en stress pour lui, le pauvre ! En voyant son regard écarquillé à la lecture de la dernière phrase de l'ordi, on comprend en même temps que lui que le pire est à venir !! Je n'ai jamais osé regarder le film en entier mais Jeff Goldblum assure dans ce rôle.
The is like in the movie Alien when the computer say’s “does not compute” and “crew expendable”
The discovery of what happened of the fly is one of the most frightening moments in the movie.
I just finished watching it for the first time and I almost puked. This movie is almost 40 years old and the makeup work is still impressive.
In Italian dubbing the computer speaks (with a female electronic voice) but in complete silence is much more chilling.
It's the same in french version (but with a rather male/sythetic voice). Agree that silence is beyond scary!
I never noticed this until now, but in the scene, it sounds like his voice is vibrating
In the Italian dubbing of the movie (most likely because at the time the film was released English was not as commonly used as today) Brundle's questions to the computer were read in Italian by Goldblum's dubber while the computer's answers were given with an electronic artificial voice. The computer voice was somewhat garbled and it was even hard to tell if it was male or female (it was similar to the voice used by some early electronic devices or pc, like the speak and say). I think it added a nice touch of sci-fi to the movie but still the original scene is better, just listening to the music gives you a great feeling of fear gradually growing into pure horror!
I've forgotten how creepy Howard Shore's score was for this scene.
If the computer was that smart he should’ve been able to set it to re-teleport himself while phasing out any of the genetic material identified in the fly portion of the synthesis. I stand pretty firm on that being the biggest plot hole.
Or the first teleportation would've simply aborted as the computer didn't agree with the premise.
i mean it couldve if he realised he had fused to the fly right after the teleportation, as his self had already started its mutation at that point. I dont think that computer would reverse the mutation.
@@tetrapigpower4660 I get what you’re saying. It’s a one way street. The machine can combine but not separate after mutating together. I like that, it’s plausible.
@@terminald7064 Like I've pointed out before, defusion is possible if the computer aquire sufficient tools for it. Brundle would need to sit down and develop a new project with his telepod-software (as long as he's able to work in his condition).
In a sci fi world where fusion like this can happen, reverse engineering is just as possible because it plays by the same rules of molecular-genetic tinkering. You can't make an arbitrary special pleading case for defusion just because Brundlefly goes through bodily development. What matters is the genetic code. Seth Brundle teleported himself at a certain point in time where he was of a particular age, and did not come out the other pod an elderly man or infant, since that part of his being's design had apparently been understood. Same for Brundlefly. Doesn't matter at what age or state of mutation the organism is in.
Wanna know how it's done? Okay.
A new housefly has to be scanned in a pod, to map pure fly genes. Then his girlfriend has to step in and be scanned in the same way to map pure human genes. With those tools the computer should be able to identify man genes and fly genes in a hybrid with both types of genes.
The new fly is let inside the third telepod, the receiveing pod, while Brundlefly steps into telepod 1. Instead of merging again, the process will now do a swap where all fly genes in all genetic material is transported to the reciever pod and Brundlefly is transported to telepod 2. At that point, the organism stepping out of pod 2 would be Brundle only. In pod 3 there would simply be a mutated fly.
If there are gaps in Brundle's DNA that makes him weak as he return to pure human then perhaps he needs to undergo some sort of medical treatment to regain shape and health. I do think that there is a point of no return when it comes to a normal human body vs a deformed human body, so even if all fly genetics were removed, the effect of the mutation he went through would still have repercussions on his human body. If he have lost his ears, he have lost his ears, and might have to wear prosthetic ears the rest of his human life.
That was fun to type :)
@@MoonwalkerWorshiper hey man I liked that explanation and appreciated the time you put into it!
As horrific as the information that's revealed in this scene is, there's something morbidly humorous about Seth STILL attempting to chew his nails while he's waiting for the "secondary element" to be identified, as if he's so preoccupied by finding the information out that he's forgotten he pulled most of them out just moments before.
Such a haunting scene. As Seth realizes what is happening to him.
He looked had the herpies virus to its highest level.
fun fact: the mutation is supposed to be a metaphor for human aging
When a “scientist” uses the two finger type method lol
Scientists aren't secretaries.
Here I was (I didn't watch the movie) thinking that the transformation started and he lost his fingers or something. I thought the gloves were to hide his deformed hands. But NO, it actually was that the actor types like a secretary?
he lost his nails. there's another scene in the film where he types normally.
@@reginageorge7666 *Tries to type without nails* *realises that I can't since I have nails*
Do you really need nails to type though? He still has fingers right?
@@rubenaalexander5007 his nails fell off his index fingers. there were nails on his other fingers, but they were brittle, so he was typing with two fingers bc he didn't want to lose other nails.
The Fly is a masterpiece.
It’s more tragic than scary tbh.
This movie scared the hell out of me
Still does
Same😮
0:44 if you look closely enough to the right o brundle you see a spec which is the fly
Truuuue, i see it for the first time in all this years. Thanks
I can't believe I didn't see it until now either. Well spotted!
The machine scan it in a milliseconds..
It looks like the computer had information of his previous bio genetic makeup... WHY DOESN'T HE KEEP A BACKUP!?
Wow! This was so futuristic and cutting edge when I first saw as a teenager.
but even then we knew that we are covered in germs and bugs...
still holds up! can't beat practical effect even today!
“Fuuuuuu-siooooon... haaaaa!!!”
DBZ!!!!
Was looking for a comment like this lol
:Love, love, love this film the score being a favorite aspect. The music accompanied the film perfectly.
Because the fly was so small the transformation process was much slower the computer wasn’t sure how to fully fuse them together so The Fly In Seth was being reborn and evolving causing Seth to slowly transform into a Fly. If the subject was much larger he would have instantly transformed.
What I don’t get is he had 3 pods why didn’t he just split him and the fly apart.
My only guess is by the end Seth’s DNA had been completely rewritten that the computer wouldn’t know how to or wouldn’t be able to split them apart because there wasn’t enough of Seth left because The Fly DNA had completely taken over.
I guess it's easier to take 2 separate things and meld them together rather than separate them into different things again.
Interesting theory, so he could’ve saved himself if he had caught on sooner that his body was different. Unfortunately we’ll never really know if it would’ve worked, and if he did find out about it sooner it would probably take too long to extract the fly out of him.
You're wrong, a creature doesn't rewrite its own DNA during it's life. The computer created the Brundlefly DNA, period.
To defuse man gene from fly gene, the computer need to be taught what pure human genes are and what pure fly genes are, then identify them in a creature with both. If a host needs to cover all fly genes for defusion to happen then Brundle simply teleport himself with a new fly and use that fly as a garbage can.
This would also mean that Ronnie needs to teleport herself in the pods one time to save Seth's life, or at least agree to be scanned in the pods for the computer to learn pure human DNA.
To remove the fly from his DNA after fusion, is on par with trying to restore eggs in their shells, milk in a beaker, and toppings as they were initially after creating an omelette…
- no chance. When he realised what had happened, his character knew he was screwed and any attempts to undo would be in vain.
The film prolongs his attempts to try to do this though, mainly to a) promote his love of life, and b) build sympathy from the audience.
The reason for the slow transformation into the fly is more for the sake of film scripture…the original Fly movie had an instant transformation, and that film just didn’t work as well with suspense.
- his DNA was fused 50/50 with a fly, the size of the two physically is irrelevant really.
“The second element is not-brundle” .. : the diplomacy of the old software.. 😌
Brilliant performance by Jeff Goldblum.