Is it possible to keep the the existing doorbell knob parallel with the netatmo? Does then the wiring direction matter? And does the activation of the old doorbell knob only activate the chime or does it also activate the netatmo connection with the smartphone?
Another good watch, thanks . I wonder if its possible to add a Honeywell wired to wireless convertor in the circuit so further wireless chimes can be added? Maybe by use of a relay?
I fitted a Google Nest Hello doorbell yesterday - I opted for a chime-less install as i'm using a google home hub to announce that there's someone at the door. The wiring diagram on the google nest site showed the chime device still needed to be used and wired inline on one side of transformer output. I taped up the two wires that would have gone to the chime. I wonder if there's something in there that also helps regulate the voltage rather than it simply being a bypass?
My son is in the process of refurbing his hall, stairs and landing so means new everything including ceilings etc. He's got a ring battery system at the moment but is going to replace it with something else with a permanent supply so it's obviously the time to install a cable for it. it seems that different smart bell manufacturers use different voltages and he hasn't yet decided which one he's going to buy so we've decided to wire in a socket into the under stairs cupboard (he needs one there anyway for a camera system) and take a cable into there ready to wire into a plug-in dedicated supply. These bell transformers are just so old hat at 8 volts and being 2 din wide there's often not a space in the consumer unit for it and also they're often in an unsuitable location.
Nice Video ! I just purchased my door bell and i want to replace the old system. Does the chime module support 230 V input as i can find 230 V bells without transformers. Yes it would mean having 230V outside but would prevent me from adding an extra transformer in the fuse box.
I love this doorbell and the fact that is HomeKit compatible, I want to make an installation without chime (the ideia is to use the HomePod as chime), does anyone know if it’s possible to connect the 230V directly to the natatmo doorbell without transformer? If yes, do I still need the chime module?
You would still need a transformer and you would need to put the chime module in circuit to avoid short circuiting the transformer when the button is pressed on the doorbell.
@@efixx thanks a lot for your help, one last question, I have an AC-AC adaptor with AC230V input and AC18V 500mA output, is this good enough ? thanks a lot
Thanks for the answer. Using it exactly with this setup and was not sure whether the module would need to installed then or not as the app allows me to switch of the usage of a physical chime. One might think that this is enough but thanks to you I installed it with the chime module. :-)@@efixx
@efixx really informative video thanks! Do you know if the Netatmo doorbell works with a power resistor instead of a chime? And how would I calculate the resistor value needed?
@@efixx thanks for your reply. I am kind of hoping I can use it without a mechanical chime, want to use HomePods to chime instead. Do you think it would work if I wire the Netatmo chime module in parallel with a 25 Ohm 50W resistor? Not sure what value of resistor would work best. My other hack would be to remove the plunger from the solenoid. What do you think?
Installed the Netatmo with a Byron 776 chime. Works well with the chime and triggers the security app or Alexa/Echo sync. Won’t provide a love view in the security app after a software update - voltage supply issue. 14v unloaded at the transformer - need a second pair of hands to test the loaded setup.
I have a ring pro connected to the 2nd transformer in this video & no audible chime as it notify my phone , I’m looking at changing for the netatmo but how would I wire it without a physical bell chime ( wanting HomePods & tv to notify)
Did a ring doorbell took it back after 3 days bus kept setting it off, moved the zone down still happened even got it lowest you can do still same and ring customer service said its the body heat off the bus 🤦♂️ that was with a 1st gen one I don't know if they improved the system
Do you think that there was some back emf when the bell coil was de energised that was creating the issue also? ..I cannot see it helping. You can get a wee crack from some bells at that point.
The output voltage is high because the transformer expects 230 exactly to produce those voltages your input is likely at 240 which is why you're getting a higher volatage on the output
The input voltage discrepancy isn't enough to cause the additional 50% - 100% voltage on the unloaded secondary. It's designed into the circuit to take account of voltage drop when current flows through the transformer windings, and through the thin bell wire which is typically 10m long to the switch and then the bell. Those cheap nasty switch contacts can lose a bit of voltage as well.
Silly question... does the smart bell and chime worry about which way around you wire it? For a standard bell button and ringer I guess not, and both wires on the chime are black so I guess bot but just checking. I've been waiting for this model to be released for a couple of years. It fits well for my needs.
Cool video, can't say I understand everything, but oh well - I bought a Netatmo Doorbell (living in Switzerland) using it on a Honeywell D2105 chime that says "18VA" and "220-240V". The Doorbell never moved past a pulsating green light, I never reached the installation process with a white LED, no matter what I did :(
Hi, I found your video very interesting. I don't have a transformer at home, I have a bell with 2 wires at 220 volts. Can I install it anyway? Thank you
Hello! I have a door bell with transformer (with 2 wires 230V and 2 for the door bell) where should I place the netatmo module? I connect it to the 2 wires of the door bell but the ring still humbles.... Thank you very much!!!!
Is it possible to replace chime in existing electrical circuit (high or low voltage) by something else to have Netatmo doorbell works? I have a circuit to which I can connect Netatmo device but do not have chime and do not want to have (too noisy and not needed actually)
Good video. But for less than price of the netatmo video doorbell alone I can buy the ring video Doorbell wired, ring smart chime, angled bracket, and din rail transformer.
Had another one these installed but not with a bell, it doesn’t work out a Wi-Fi booster near it Wi-Fi is better do I need a bell to make the circuit work
@@efixx I’ve messed round with it, set it up through the Netatmo app and the chime module is on it, it’s working but couldn’t see it in my phone when I left home must need a strong Wi-Fi boost
Would really like to see a smart door bell with remote wireless ringers (eg plug in ringers) assuming one exists ? Or ones that can announce via Alexa etc.
Hi Vincent Guidi. If the Netatmo Smart Doorbell is added to Apple Homekit and there are Homepods in the system, the Homepods will also chime when the bell push is pressed.
Clever stuff. Is that why Gary asked Gordon to explain it. 😂😂😂
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I can't remember the last time i whent to a property that had a door bell let alone an old school one. Interesting video guys cheers.
Great info as always Gaz. U did a smashing job of keeping Gordon right with the technical bits 😉.
It’s not easy but I think Gordon is getting the hang of the technical content... 🤣👍
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Typically companies fix the extra voltage by using a diode, some even provide it telling you where to put it - across the two terminals :)
Great work Gordon and @gshelectrical 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟
Is it possible to keep the the existing doorbell knob parallel with the netatmo? Does then the wiring direction matter? And does the activation of the old doorbell knob only activate the chime or does it also activate the netatmo connection with the smartphone?
I have the same question. 🤔 It would be nice to use the old doorbell and keep this one as a secondary doorbell/camera.
Sod it I'm fitting a knocker.!
@Emilio Aryan cool. I will do the same. What is you girlfriend's Instagram account?
Another good watch, thanks . I wonder if its possible to add a Honeywell wired to wireless convertor in the circuit so further wireless chimes can be added? Maybe by use of a relay?
I fitted a Google Nest Hello doorbell yesterday - I opted for a chime-less install as i'm using a google home hub to announce that there's someone at the door. The wiring diagram on the google nest site showed the chime device still needed to be used and wired inline on one side of transformer output. I taped up the two wires that would have gone to the chime. I wonder if there's something in there that also helps regulate the voltage rather than it simply being a bypass?
Great video! I hooked mine up to a Byron 776 but the transformer makes an intermittent rattling / rumbling sound. Any ideas?
Did you ever solve this? Mine’s doing the same
My son is in the process of refurbing his hall, stairs and landing so means new everything including ceilings etc. He's got a ring battery system at the moment but is going to replace it with something else with a permanent supply so it's obviously the time to install a cable for it. it seems that different smart bell manufacturers use different voltages and he hasn't yet decided which one he's going to buy so we've decided to wire in a socket into the under stairs cupboard (he needs one there anyway for a camera system) and take a cable into there ready to wire into a plug-in dedicated supply. These bell transformers are just so old hat at 8 volts and being 2 din wide there's often not a space in the consumer unit for it and also they're often in an unsuitable location.
Nice Video ! I just purchased my door bell and i want to replace the old system. Does the chime module support 230 V input as i can find 230 V bells without transformers. Yes it would mean having 230V outside but would prevent me from adding an extra transformer in the fuse box.
@@efixx alright thx !! I will then buy a transformer and add it to the fuse box.
I love this doorbell and the fact that is HomeKit compatible, I want to make an installation without chime (the ideia is to use the HomePod as chime), does anyone know if it’s possible to connect the 230V directly to the natatmo doorbell without transformer? If yes, do I still need the chime module?
You would still need a transformer and you would need to put the chime module in circuit to avoid short circuiting the transformer when the button is pressed on the doorbell.
@@efixx thanks a lot for your help, one last question, I have an AC-AC adaptor with AC230V input and AC18V 500mA output, is this good enough ? thanks a lot
can you make a short video on this with wiring diagram? im sure a lot of novice are interested but hard to find anything online
So, with a transformer, i'd run one of the two cables to the chime module, than onwards to the doorbell?
Thanks for the answer. Using it exactly with this setup and was not sure whether the module would need to installed then or not as the app allows me to switch of the usage of a physical chime. One might think that this is enough but thanks to you I installed it with the chime module. :-)@@efixx
Thanks for the great video!
Is it possible to keep the old button?
@efixx really informative video thanks! Do you know if the Netatmo doorbell works with a power resistor instead of a chime? And how would I calculate the resistor value needed?
It should work with just the chime module no need for an additional resistor
@@efixx thanks for your reply. I am kind of hoping I can use it without a mechanical chime, want to use HomePods to chime instead.
Do you think it would work if I wire the Netatmo chime module in parallel with a 25 Ohm 50W resistor? Not sure what value of resistor would work best. My other hack would be to remove the plunger from the solenoid. What do you think?
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@@zedvee2668 I would think that you could replace the doorbell with a 12v automotive bulb, such as a generic car tail light.
Installed the Netatmo with a Byron 776 chime. Works well with the chime and triggers the security app or Alexa/Echo sync. Won’t provide a love view in the security app after a software update - voltage supply issue. 14v unloaded at the transformer - need a second pair of hands to test the loaded setup.
I have a ring pro connected to the 2nd transformer in this video & no audible chime as it notify my phone , I’m looking at changing for the netatmo but how would I wire it without a physical bell chime ( wanting HomePods & tv to notify)
Hi is it possible to install the video doorbell without chime? I can’t make it work.
Did a ring doorbell took it back after 3 days bus kept setting it off, moved the zone down still happened even got it lowest you can do still same and ring customer service said its the body heat off the bus 🤦♂️ that was with a 1st gen one I don't know if they improved the system
You can switch off the triggers with the Netatmo - so it only triggers when someone pushes the bell.
@@efixx ooh I'll have to look in to that one cheers
Do you think that there was some back emf when the bell coil was de energised that was creating the issue also? ..I cannot see it helping. You can get a wee crack from some bells at that point.
The output voltage is high because the transformer expects 230 exactly to produce those voltages your input is likely at 240 which is why you're getting a higher volatage on the output
The input voltage discrepancy isn't enough to cause the additional 50% - 100% voltage on the unloaded secondary. It's designed into the circuit to take account of voltage drop when current flows through the transformer windings, and through the thin bell wire which is typically 10m long to the switch and then the bell. Those cheap nasty switch contacts can lose a bit of voltage as well.
Silly question... does the smart bell and chime worry about which way around you wire it? For a standard bell button and ringer I guess not, and both wires on the chime are black so I guess bot but just checking. I've been waiting for this model to be released for a couple of years. It fits well for my needs.
Do you have a recommendation of door bell to work alongside the netatmo
We bought ours from a well known online retailer. The Byron 771. The round bell is also Byron.
@@efixx take it I don’t need the big round bell 🛎 😂
Cool video, can't say I understand everything, but oh well - I bought a Netatmo Doorbell (living in Switzerland) using it on a Honeywell D2105 chime that says "18VA" and "220-240V". The Doorbell never moved past a pulsating green light, I never reached the installation process with a white LED, no matter what I did :(
Did you try to push the button until the light turns white? Factory reset might be needed. I had a problem with the wires, but now it seems to work.
Hi, I found your video very interesting. I don't have a transformer at home, I have a bell with 2 wires at 220 volts. Can I install it anyway? Thank you
Hello! I have a door bell with transformer (with 2 wires 230V and 2 for the door bell) where should I place the netatmo module? I connect it to the 2 wires of the door bell but the ring still humbles.... Thank you very much!!!!
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Is it possible to replace chime in existing electrical circuit (high or low voltage) by something else to have Netatmo doorbell works? I have a circuit to which I can connect Netatmo device but do not have chime and do not want to have (too noisy and not needed actually)
I would think that a 12volt bulb such as a car tail light would be a good alternative.
Good video. But for less than price of the netatmo video doorbell alone I can buy the ring video Doorbell wired, ring smart chime, angled bracket, and din rail transformer.
Less money yes. But with a Ring doorbell you pay and additional subscription, as well as with your data and privacy.
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Had another one these installed but not with a bell, it doesn’t work out a Wi-Fi booster near it Wi-Fi is better do I need a bell to make the circuit work
you shouldn't need a bell - but you would need to set the chime module to the right setting
@@efixx I’ve messed round with it, set it up through the Netatmo app and the chime module is on it, it’s working but couldn’t see it in my phone when I left home must need a strong Wi-Fi boost
@@efixx if your not using a chime then you don’t need the chime module. Just connect transformer direct to camera.
Would really like to see a smart door bell with remote wireless ringers (eg plug in ringers) assuming one exists ? Or ones that can announce via Alexa etc.
Good question we’ll find out what’s possible with voice assistants.
Ring door bells have remote ringers and they announce through Alexa
Hi Vincent Guidi. If the Netatmo Smart Doorbell is added to Apple Homekit and there are Homepods in the system, the Homepods will also chime when the bell push is pressed.
@@richardhopkins5452 thanks for the information.
@@nedloh17 I concur, I was about to reply exactly the same thing.
Whatever happened to the old wind up bells? Bell stops working... Twist it round to wind it back up. Sorted
what's the actual voltage reading of your supply? I bet it was more than 230V!
The studios voltage is around 237 AC
So what is the difference between smart and standard system. Why would you need a smart system?
See the previous video in the series. - th-cam.com/video/9pD77g-WXAY/w-d-xo.html