In case anyone is wondering, in order to accelerate a 29mm caliber rod to penetrate 500.000mm of standard quality iron plate, you would need the energy equivalent of 19,06 kilograms of TNT of propelenat. For reference, The KV-2 HE shell had an explosive filling of around 5,83kg TNT equivalent, so firing the 29mm would be the equivalent of dentonating almost 3,3 KV-2 HE shells inside the tank. Please note this is napkin maths and may be orders of magnitude wrong.
Yep, the shell would pretty much take the form of a micrometeorite and disintegrate midair, although it would probably never happen considering that much propellant would rather disintegrate anything around it
remember that this is a railgun, meaning there's no actual explosion, just acceleration along a rail to speeds that will probably delete anything shy of nanomaterial
Hey man, if you ever wanna learn actual armor terminology lmk. Also, a lot of armor doctrine, maintenance manuals, and other miscellaneous things are publicly available online. For the US army, they're called "training manuals". Had to offer as soon as I heard you call RPGs "held munitions" and not "shaped charges" 😂
Question about not hitting at long ranges, have You considered that guns and gunner sight are not aligned (Gunner looks a bit to the right compered to gun)? When aiming there is this default 300m range and I believe that if it would be set to 1000m ("-" or "=" keybind) long range hits would be more frequent.
Modern tanks uses Composite armour which is mostly steel, other types of metals you sandwich together and some have open spaces as well. The Japanese Type-10 uses Nano-crystals.
In fact, railguns have already been mounted onto tanks... in fucking WW2. It was obviously just a test vehicle. This is not some conspiracy theory, here's Spookston's video on it: th-cam.com/video/kmyR1QQWJEs/w-d-xo.html
You should do like generations of tanks again, but instead of making one tank and upgrading it to the Era, you should do something kinda like panzer I, II, III, IV where they are different tanks but built off the flaws of the previous design. To make it more challenging or fun you could address only one issue at a time so you have to prioritize armor, speed, or weapon damage depending on the era. (Try 2)
Overall shape and concept very much reminds me of the Rheinmetall Lynx 120 fire support vehicle, it's basically a 120mm version KF51 Panther turret design on the hull of the KF41 Lynx IFV. oh and the BF2042 Railgun tank that I imported the model of into Sprocket and made functional, mine only has ~450mm of pen tho 😅
In a future video, how about an 'Atom-punk' tank, something like the, as yet unnamed, US Army Tank seen in Fallout 4 and 76. There are a great deal of 'Tank of the Future' concepts from the early atomic age, most of which are, frankly, ludicrous, but they make for fun thought experiments.
Hey I have a video suggestion here have you tried storm works with the search and destroy dlc because with the dlc it allows you to not only make tanks but any military vehicle and make the subsystems, auto loaders, engine systems etc I think you might like it! (Made this at 2am on a Friday bought so that probably didn’t make sense but eh)
@@EdyAlbertoMSGT3some people make jet engines I’m pretty sure somewhere on the workshop and there’s a modular engine pack I use for tanks boats trucks etc and I’m pretty new
It's totally meaningless, at that kind of velocity 'APHE' is a joke - it's not going to have time to detonate. Fortunately that's just fine, because it's going to instantly vaporize on impact, with a yield far greater than any non-nuclear explosive could hope to achieve. (And... by weight, the nuke might be in for some competition). The penetration is probably an overstatement, hypervelocity impacts tend to relatively *decrease* in penetration as velocity goes up, limited to approximately the length of the penetrator itself. On the other hand, that's based on experiments with velocities in the 2-3 km/s range, not 50 km/s+, though it's safe to say anything coming out the back is no longer solid.
you could have made all the armor on your tank alot heavier so that you weigh more because then less flipping chance by recoil and you already have such high speeds but i think medium speed and heavy armor plus that crazy penetration would be a nightmare
After some math to find the volume of the shell (volume of a cylinder 29x5926mm), 1.03 gallons of gunpowder is used in game to shoot the projectile. I'm not sure how much that would weigh. Maybe somewhere around 3-4 kg?
The kinetic energy for this tank is unreal, assuming Patch Bits did not change anything Ke = 1/2 * (375.3/68)kg * (557,834^2)m/s= 8.587*10^11 J so 858.7 Gigajoules of energy.(8.59*10^11J/4.184*10^9J/ton) That is the same energy as 205.2 tons of TNT equivalent so about 1 % of the TNT of a light nuclear bomb of 20 Mton of TNT equivalent.
My man, the Puma is the primary IFV of the Bundeswehr, and has been for a while now. It just so happens that german military procurement sucks, and so does the process of fixing any flaws discovered after taking equipment into service, so that is why you keep hearing about development-troubles on an in-service platform.
i am very surprised that my gun get two videos, damn when i first discovered it, i didn't tough it was that fun but, since the gun doesn't alway kill the ennemy... what about putting more ?
yeah 500 meters of pen is basically if you took a like 2 battleships and put them end to end and made them out of straight up steel with no rooms, entirely solid and you just straight up penetrated through that..... yeah that gun doesn't fuck around
I wonder if ya could make a Tank Killing Tank that's so small and low profile it can run on Taiga and be invisible under the Snow, especially with a snowy Livery for aid...? :D (aka the Snow is taller than the whole Tank. XD )
As the commander of an EMKV-90 TOR tank, I must say I enjoyed this video. Yes I just said I’m the commander of a fictional tank, I’m pretty good with it though so whatever
In case anyone is wondering, in order to accelerate a 29mm caliber rod to penetrate 500.000mm of standard quality iron plate, you would need the energy equivalent of 19,06 kilograms of TNT of propelenat.
For reference, The KV-2 HE shell had an explosive filling of around 5,83kg TNT equivalent, so firing the 29mm would be the equivalent of dentonating almost 3,3 KV-2 HE shells inside the tank.
Please note this is napkin maths and may be orders of magnitude wrong.
Assuming if the 29mm can keep its shape for the penetration
Yep, the shell would pretty much take the form of a micrometeorite and disintegrate midair, although it would probably never happen considering that much propellant would rather disintegrate anything around it
@@deskmat9874 tungsten can only go far enough, this is just some theoretical crap if you just ignore the bullet and just focus on the energy part
remember that this is a railgun, meaning there's no actual explosion, just acceleration along a rail to speeds that will probably delete anything shy of nanomaterial
@@skipslash7367 where will it get the energy for such a small package though
The flipping just incentivises the crew to not reveal their side. Revolutionary design!
Dark Souls tactics
Hey man, if you ever wanna learn actual armor terminology lmk. Also, a lot of armor doctrine, maintenance manuals, and other miscellaneous things are publicly available online. For the US army, they're called "training manuals". Had to offer as soon as I heard you call RPGs "held munitions" and not "shaped charges" 😂
@@Pallium_Industries i think you replied to the wrong comment
@@abas656thegodemperor9 I think he did
Idk how I saw your little profile pic and immediately knew it was the emperor of man
This sci-fi tank is amazing looking and works splendidly! I just don't have the patience and knowledge to make this kind of tank...
500,000mm of penetration. For when you want to kill the tank, on other side of the building, on the other side of the city.
and alot of civilians on the way, because why not
you dont know what penetration is do you
Question about not hitting at long ranges, have You considered that guns and gunner sight are not aligned (Gunner looks a bit to the right compered to gun)? When aiming there is this default 300m range and I believe that if it would be set to 1000m ("-" or "=" keybind) long range hits would be more frequent.
500 METERS of penetration.. damn! You can just shoot through ground, rocks and building and hit the target!
Ah yes, i sure do love penetrating 5 footbal fields of steel in my tank
Modern tanks uses Composite armour which is mostly steel, other types of metals you sandwich together and some have open spaces as well. The Japanese Type-10 uses Nano-crystals.
it uses *nano crystal steel*, not just some magic "nano-crystals". It's still really fancy stuff, as its basically stronger and lighter steel
as well as rubber, textolite, and reflective panels
@@Agustin-jd9iqand some tanks even have automated missile defence for ATGM’s in addition to era
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You have also coilguns, which are cylindric if you want.
In fact, railguns have already been mounted onto tanks... in fucking WW2. It was obviously just a test vehicle. This is not some conspiracy theory, here's Spookston's video on it: th-cam.com/video/kmyR1QQWJEs/w-d-xo.html
Do you think that making the tank more armored would be better? If the design had more weight to it, maybe it would bounce less.
That recoil looks like a fun time for the crew
i dont think the gun would have much recoil as a railgun uses a magnet and not expanding gas
next time make the Gustav
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Pretty sure he has bruh if not I fifth this
Hey man, love your vids! They always give me inspiration to play sprocket again. Keep it up!
I have this game and couldn't even get close to building something like this. Amazing creativity. Needs to do a Sprocket Master class
fun fact, theres a game that did this type of thing, the tank is called the: EMKV-90 "TOR"
Hey man, finnaly caught a vid early. Really enjoying the content, expecialy the flyout vids. Keel it up man 😁
You should do like generations of tanks again, but instead of making one tank and upgrading it to the Era, you should do something kinda like panzer I, II, III, IV where they are different tanks but built off the flaws of the previous design. To make it more challenging or fun you could address only one issue at a time so you have to prioritize armor, speed, or weapon damage depending on the era. (Try 2)
like that scene from incredibles where bob is looking at all the versions of the robot
@@cbotable6227 Yeah, that's pretty spot on.
Overall shape and concept very much reminds me of the Rheinmetall Lynx 120 fire support vehicle, it's basically a 120mm version KF51 Panther turret design on the hull of the KF41 Lynx IFV.
oh and the BF2042 Railgun tank that I imported the model of into Sprocket and made functional, mine only has ~450mm of pen tho 😅
I am pretty sure first shot already broke turret ring + railgun slug might get fused with barrel making railgun fire entire barrel out of the tank
Even more penetration!
The KSP music in the background 🔥🔥🔥
reminds me of that one black polish stealth tank mixed with a puma
also 9:03 what's with that tiny box on the back of the turret next to the other box
Thank you so much for posting this! :)
I love the KSP music in the background.
500+ METERS of armor pen is just absolutely bonkers
In a future video, how about an 'Atom-punk' tank, something like the, as yet unnamed, US Army Tank seen in Fallout 4 and 76.
There are a great deal of 'Tank of the Future' concepts from the early atomic age, most of which are, frankly, ludicrous, but they make for fun thought experiments.
YES PLEASE
Hey I have a video suggestion here have you tried storm works with the search and destroy dlc because with the dlc it allows you to not only make tanks but any military vehicle and make the subsystems, auto loaders, engine systems etc I think you might like it! (Made this at 2am on a Friday bought so that probably didn’t make sense but eh)
It's damn hard to make a good tank though, considering than tracks put a lot of strain on engines.
Hell yeah, don’t mind the space DLC incident tho
@@EdyAlbertoMSGT3some people make jet engines I’m pretty sure somewhere on the workshop and there’s a modular engine pack I use for tanks boats trucks etc and I’m pretty new
@@somedudewhoexistsspace dlc I only like it for the engines
I wonder...if this tank penetrates 500m of steel armor with APHE then what it would do with APFSDS?😮
@ZaHandleNow let’s put it to 120mm rounds and the same speed. And same tank so we can do a backflip
It's totally meaningless, at that kind of velocity 'APHE' is a joke - it's not going to have time to detonate. Fortunately that's just fine, because it's going to instantly vaporize on impact, with a yield far greater than any non-nuclear explosive could hope to achieve. (And... by weight, the nuke might be in for some competition). The penetration is probably an overstatement, hypervelocity impacts tend to relatively *decrease* in penetration as velocity goes up, limited to approximately the length of the penetrator itself.
On the other hand, that's based on experiments with velocities in the 2-3 km/s range, not 50 km/s+, though it's safe to say anything coming out the back is no longer solid.
at this point its just a heat shell@@basedeltazero714
I think if a shell can pen half a kilometer, armor isn't even thought of anymore, just make a stealth tank.
T-22 Raptor tank
Ahh yes, Gauss Cannons, a neat thing, but really heavy!
2:40 "Our main Goal here is to Blow up, and then say we dont know nobody Hehhee"
btw you're not thinking of the Puma, it's the KF51 Panther that's in developmental hell
Hey, thats still much better than getting stuck in procurement limbo like the t-14.
@@gamedominatorxennongdm7956also like the su-57, which is not a tank
I just love longer building segments!
for the record rail gun have been put on American m4 tank during ww2 it was still a prototyp, it was abandon due to a lack of fire power
you could have made all the armor on your tank alot heavier so that you weigh more because then less flipping chance by recoil and you already have such high speeds but i think medium speed and heavy armor plus that crazy penetration would be a nightmare
KF51 Panther, being developed by Rheinmetall
just imagine a real life MBT like an Abrams and every time it shoots it almost flips over. And somebody in the Pentagon approved it.
You could make a SPG with a 155mm cannon or 152 mm. I know that there is no such HE or something but it would be fun to see.
For reference, this tank can penetrate half a kilometer of RHA. For fellow americans, that is about ~4,374.4 burgers end to end on average.
Might need to make it a heavy casemate design to not fly.
After some math to find the volume of the shell (volume of a cylinder 29x5926mm), 1.03 gallons of gunpowder is used in game to shoot the projectile. I'm not sure how much that would weigh. Maybe somewhere around 3-4 kg?
Woah
very powerful
am i first?????
Bouncing so hard, this must be the Shell Raiser.
You should make a wisel
how to do you copy and paste parts locked onto a specific axis (i.e. the riveted side skirts at around 3:15)?
Alt+drag on the movement nodes
you are a scholar, and a gentleman @@PatchBits . thank you my good sir.
this can penetrate the XCOM UFOs even when they are shielded
Honestly the only thing i could think of the entire video is the railgun tank from bf2042.
Hello, when did he build that MBT at 19:50 and is there are video of that? i have never seen that tank in any of his videos before.
It was my first MBT but I did a lot of upgrades off camera
oh thank you, it looks so different now@@PatchBits
BRO GOT THE KSP MUSIC IN THE BACK ROUND
The kinetic energy for this tank is unreal, assuming Patch Bits did not change anything Ke = 1/2 * (375.3/68)kg * (557,834^2)m/s= 8.587*10^11 J so 858.7 Gigajoules of energy.(8.59*10^11J/4.184*10^9J/ton) That is the same energy as 205.2 tons of TNT equivalent so about 1 % of the TNT of a light nuclear bomb of 20 Mton of TNT equivalent.
My man, the Puma is the primary IFV of the Bundeswehr, and has been for a while now. It just so happens that german military procurement sucks, and so does the process of fixing any flaws discovered after taking equipment into service, so that is why you keep hearing about development-troubles on an in-service platform.
The answer will probably be „NEIN!“
Great that the tank doesn't flip Also great that crew injuries due to being shaken like a human cocktail are not modelled.
You could make the tank heavier if you put thicker armour on and that might reduce some recoil
music from the KSP at the beginning
closest tank to this, is the panther kf51, it is said that it can penetrate over a 1000mm of armor.
How in the heck do you make your hull, and move things up and down
ah yes, the hstv-l's not-so-little brother with its autorailgun.
No armor, is the best armor
Congratulations, you have made an futuristic Panzer VI Tiger!
Panzer IX Maus: Light Edition
@@dbio305Panzer X conventional railgun edition
Every person in those enemy tanks is just a fine paste or mist after getting hit by those shells.
Heavily classified? Warthunder forums have your back!
I remember making a 32mm x 2m ... Canon shell I guess? That head over 210mm of pen
It looks like the Chinese VT5 or ZTQ15 light tank, but the VT5 doesn't have a rail gun😅
*PRC Top Secret tank documents*
the shell is literally a gamma blast
Pretty sure those can literally DELETE planets
i am very surprised that my gun get two videos, damn
when i first discovered it, i didn't tough it was that fun
but, since the gun doesn't alway kill the ennemy... what about putting more ?
Next time you do this you should add stabilises on the sides for the recoil
You could literally punch a hole through and through a football stadium with that thing
In a real Situation the enemy Crew would be dead from the amount of shock the tank took from the 29 mm
was that some ksp designer music i heard in the background?
Is that actually the Kerbal Space Program Musical in the background?
1:10 KF51?
*Tink* It bounced.
Hello patch
I can't belive i could be first, dam.
I really do enjoy your content keep up the good work.
You seem to have built a gun that could kill one of the galaxy-sized mechs from Gurren Lagann
Love your video😊, keep up
how do i make the settings for the tanks gun? i tried to replicate and only got to 150mm pen
You could’ve recreated BF2042’s EMKV90 TOR railgun tank.
Half a kilometer's worth of penetration.
_Battleships_ are scared of this thing.
3:56 zorkon these nuts gottem
i see tanks but my ears hear space crafts
Is that ksp music in the background?
It's gorgeous!!
Is that the ksp music??
as of now last i heard railguns are planned to be added to war ships
yeah 500 meters of pen is basically if you took a like 2 battleships and put them end to end and made them out of straight up steel with no rooms, entirely solid and you just straight up penetrated through that..... yeah that gun doesn't fuck around
I wonder if ya could make a Tank Killing Tank that's so small and low profile it can run on Taiga and be invisible under the Snow, especially with a snowy Livery for aid...? :D (aka the Snow is taller than the whole Tank. XD )
Could you try to make a blimp in flyout?
i am stealing your cat
ok so i thought it was clickbait but i was wrong, that tank has 500m of penetration, wtf.
I wonder if I can use the same gun on a heavier chassis
Sure, you can download the tank file (and thus the gun) from my discord in the channel tank repository
@@PatchBitsimagine me then using the entire day making this tank 😅
the frontal armor of a leopard 2a6 has around 800 to a 1000mm of armor, only turret armour though
How do you make the propellant longer than 1200mm?
The absolute maximum of penetration is around 880 000 mm pen if tweaked correctly
what if you put a secondary 220mm howitzer that kinda looks like an atgm launcher on the side?
OH GOD I HEARD THE KSP MUSIC
It looks a bit lile the kf41 Lynx or am i wrong?
Ksp music in the background lol
Lore accurate puma?
Modern tank is not really classified, you can find the leaks in war thunder community
As the commander of an EMKV-90 TOR tank, I must say I enjoyed this video.
Yes I just said I’m the commander of a fictional tank, I’m pretty good with it though so whatever