There is something special in this game. Marrying the poe1 style character building with the souls like combat had immense potential. I believe there does need to be some tweaking with the numbers, but its overall concept is inspired.
i didnt play poe 1 all that much, maybe 80 hours or so. But im really liking poe2, granted, im only level 20, and a witch, and yeah its hard but its good hard. isnt everything better when its hard? I just done my /deaths and im at 68 and only in act 2 haha but no i like the learning of the fights, The difference is, they are doable, you just have to learn what to avoid. Being a witch, very squishy, but dodge the right skills and your good good. I dont think it needs to change much at all. I love the new QoL things such as skill gems you can chose, like the dodge roll to. But did die quite a few times because i was completely stuck.- tldr - i suck at it but i still love it.
Feel like their largest inovation is solid wasd with perma roll. Totally agree they should always balance to make sure you have to engage mechanics. I feel like in maps, rare mobs get strong enough and immune your one shot kills to force engagement. But I am also on a warrior and not one of the OP meta classes...
My guy, i can almost guarantee you won't be enjoying the late game as much as you are enjoying the campaign, as it is a whole different beast. I have been playing POE since forever, almost since it went live, and i am loving POE2. The problem is not that it is hard, but that it becomes insanely punishing. You grind waystones to create better ones, because at this time you cannot buy anything higher than tier 3, so you either have to combine a shit ton of lower ones or just have them drop at a higher tier with RNG. Then you spend your currency to craft it into something that is actually worth running, only to have 1 single shot at it. If you get one shot, and you will often, you lose it all. You lose the waystone, you can't get the items on the floor, you wont progress with the quest objective, you lose the extra content on that node from the atlas, and you loose about 4 or 5 maps worth of experience. You wont be able to learn the boss mechanics because if you fail once, the boss is deleted from the map. It feels way too punishing and i don't think it will retain a lot of players in it's current state. While i hope they keep the nature of the game as it is, it certainly needs some adjustments to some parameters. The reasons why criticism is mostly coming from hardcore dudes is because most people haven't arrived at the point where these problems affect you. As it stands, it's not just made to be hard, but also frustrating by design, and that is not a positive thing. I do have faith in GGG, they never let us down in the past and i am certain that they will find the perfect balance. But the way it is now, it ain't it.
That's some really great input and I have to agree that balance changes would be needed here. If the game is becoming difficult for the sake of being difficult and you don't learn lessons through each death than that is just poor game design. Not to mention if you aren't able to prevent these deaths through gameplay or building defensively that is an issue as well. The video was more meant to argue that they shouldn't push POE 2 to play more like POE 1. Unfortunately, I heard that mapping doesn't feel like POE 2 at all - that it's simply based on clear speed and your just overwhelmed with monsters that can snipe you off screen. This moment to moment gameplay seems to be designed like POE 1 instead of taking advantages of intentional skill based combat the game was intended to play as. We will see what they do here! Thanks for the great comment!
As someone else already mentioned the game in maps is completely different. I think the campaign is way too long. Maps are too big and the game gets tedious fast. Especially if you want to play it for long sessions. Maybe not the first time or the second, but I rerolled 3 times and let me tell you that while you get faster at completing the campaign it drags on and on until you reach maps. Path of Exile 2 is not a one and done game. The game is meant to be repeated over and over again with 3-4 monthly resets. I don´t think many people will log in again for league starts if the massive flaws this game has right now won´t get adressed. Don´t get me wrong. I like the game, it has a solid core, but I can also clearly see why they released it in early access. Another point you adressed was that the developer is (always) right. You couldn´t be further from the truth. PoE1 was extremely niche and has grown over the years thanks to community feedback. Every change to modernize the game was a hard fight, some even over years. We got the currency exchange market in july and were asking for it for at least 7 years.
The campaign I thought was the best part, but I haven't explored maps yet to the fullest extent. Of course they aren't always right, but they have a more fundamental understanding having built the game. Feedback is always important, just hope it doesn't get so bloated that they make this into POE 1. Thanks for the great comment! Awesome to hear others prospective!
its not arpg it more like roguelike arpg or some shit, i died over 200 times with warrior on first 3 acts and its fun as hell and yeah its time consuming and its kinda unforgiving and i like it. But i have feeling that crybabies will push this game to loot zoomshitfest, i hope im wrong.
There is something special in this game. Marrying the poe1 style character building with the souls like combat had immense potential. I believe there does need to be some tweaking with the numbers, but its overall concept is inspired.
God bless GGG!
i didnt play poe 1 all that much, maybe 80 hours or so. But im really liking poe2, granted, im only level 20, and a witch, and yeah its hard but its good hard. isnt everything better when its hard? I just done my /deaths and im at 68 and only in act 2 haha but no i like the learning of the fights, The difference is, they are doable, you just have to learn what to avoid. Being a witch, very squishy, but dodge the right skills and your good good. I dont think it needs to change much at all. I love the new QoL things such as skill gems you can chose, like the dodge roll to. But did die quite a few times because i was completely stuck.- tldr - i suck at it but i still love it.
Witches are for....BITCHES hahaha jk! Glad your enjoying the game Dean!
Feel like their largest inovation is solid wasd with perma roll. Totally agree they should always balance to make sure you have to engage mechanics.
I feel like in maps, rare mobs get strong enough and immune your one shot kills to force engagement. But I am also on a warrior and not one of the OP meta classes...
WASD is KING! And I wouldn't play any other class! How do you feel about maps and their overall balance/gameplay?
My guy, i can almost guarantee you won't be enjoying the late game as much as you are enjoying the campaign, as it is a whole different beast. I have been playing POE since forever, almost since it went live, and i am loving POE2. The problem is not that it is hard, but that it becomes insanely punishing. You grind waystones to create better ones, because at this time you cannot buy anything higher than tier 3, so you either have to combine a shit ton of lower ones or just have them drop at a higher tier with RNG. Then you spend your currency to craft it into something that is actually worth running, only to have 1 single shot at it. If you get one shot, and you will often, you lose it all. You lose the waystone, you can't get the items on the floor, you wont progress with the quest objective, you lose the extra content on that node from the atlas, and you loose about 4 or 5 maps worth of experience. You wont be able to learn the boss mechanics because if you fail once, the boss is deleted from the map. It feels way too punishing and i don't think it will retain a lot of players in it's current state. While i hope they keep the nature of the game as it is, it certainly needs some adjustments to some parameters. The reasons why criticism is mostly coming from hardcore dudes is because most people haven't arrived at the point where these problems affect you. As it stands, it's not just made to be hard, but also frustrating by design, and that is not a positive thing. I do have faith in GGG, they never let us down in the past and i am certain that they will find the perfect balance. But the way it is now, it ain't it.
That's some really great input and I have to agree that balance changes would be needed here. If the game is becoming difficult for the sake of being difficult and you don't learn lessons through each death than that is just poor game design. Not to mention if you aren't able to prevent these deaths through gameplay or building defensively that is an issue as well.
The video was more meant to argue that they shouldn't push POE 2 to play more like POE 1. Unfortunately, I heard that mapping doesn't feel like POE 2 at all - that it's simply based on clear speed and your just overwhelmed with monsters that can snipe you off screen. This moment to moment gameplay seems to be designed like POE 1 instead of taking advantages of intentional skill based combat the game was intended to play as. We will see what they do here!
Thanks for the great comment!
It isnt a one button build that does everything
You still had to use a few skills to "one shot" the boss
You sir are talking facts
Much appreciated homie!
Some pure facts right here.
Just doing the Lords work🙏
As someone else already mentioned the game in maps is completely different. I think the campaign is way too long. Maps are too big and the game gets tedious fast. Especially if you want to play it for long sessions. Maybe not the first time or the second, but I rerolled 3 times and let me tell you that while you get faster at completing the campaign it drags on and on until you reach maps.
Path of Exile 2 is not a one and done game. The game is meant to be repeated over and over again with 3-4 monthly resets. I don´t think many people will log in again for league starts if the massive flaws this game has right now won´t get adressed. Don´t get me wrong. I like the game, it has a solid core, but I can also clearly see why they released it in early access.
Another point you adressed was that the developer is (always) right. You couldn´t be further from the truth. PoE1 was extremely niche and has grown over the years thanks to community feedback. Every change to modernize the game was a hard fight, some even over years. We got the currency exchange market in july and were asking for it for at least 7 years.
The campaign I thought was the best part, but I haven't explored maps yet to the fullest extent. Of course they aren't always right, but they have a more fundamental understanding having built the game.
Feedback is always important, just hope it doesn't get so bloated that they make this into POE 1.
Thanks for the great comment! Awesome to hear others prospective!
its not arpg it more like roguelike arpg or some shit, i died over 200 times with warrior on first 3 acts and its fun as hell and yeah its time consuming and its kinda unforgiving and i like it. But i have feeling that crybabies will push this game to loot zoomshitfest, i hope im wrong.
are you good bro why you getting so mad
review is facts though
I'm not angry IM PASSIONATE!