I used to hang out at the old Athens airport with my buddies, drinking cold ones, in the summers a very long time ago. There was a spot that wasn't fenced off, just before the runway, and thus airplanes would fly just over our heads. Good memories.
If you’re a pilot and reading this comment, i want to thank you for flying passengers with safety and a big applause for flying these tons of metal even in the worst weather conditions! Respect! 🙏
Green grass in the end of December, merely 2200 kilometers away... Been there a few times, but still unbelievable. Can't imagine what it's like in Madeira now - palms? orchids? bikinis?
Great shots, a bit reminiscent of Hanover to be honest. All the efforts are excellent but it is true that Aegean stands out both in terms of accuracy and smoothness. Especially the Aegean coming in from Rome, the guy went straight to the center despite having to approach with a full opposite lock. The same goes for his colleagues arriving from Belgrade and Istanbul. These guys really give a lesson, probably because they play on "home ground". Lufthansen is also excellent, but he classically dropped it, as if it is somehow in their protocol to touch down in a kind of abrupt way, although straight. In any case, we thank all the operators and crews plus the creator of this footage.
Well commented, same thoughts here. And yes, "betont aufsetzen" (means " performing an accentuated touchdown") in gusty conditions, especially on wet or contaminated runways, is a thing here... But not just LH uses that procedure.
Just adding a quick explanation if I may: The main reason for "not greasing it" when windgusts are prevailing (especially when the runway is contaminated with slush or standing water, as mentioned before) is the accelerated (ideally immediate) response of the air/ground sensors (the so-called "weight on wheels sensor", mostly combined with a predetermined sensed speed of wheelspin - depending on A/C type) which allows for the groundspoilers to deploy and thus lets most of the A/C's weight settle on the main gear within seconds, making the wheelbrakes most effective and providing for both increased lateral control and braking performance. Additionally, it minimizes the risk of hydroplaning and/or skidding laterally on a slippery runway in crosswind conditions since firm contact with the actual runway surface by "cutting through" the layer of whatever contamination right away is key. Passengers may not always appreciate the accentuated touchdown, but if they knew, they would most likely appreciate the increased safety margin resulting from it 🙂 EDIT: typo
Stunning capture! May I feature the Avcon Jet Global Express landing in one of my next episodes? Of course with a link back to your original video. Cheers!
Είναι λίγο αγχωτικό από έξω αλλά για να πιάσεις χειριστήρια από αεροπλάνο σημαίνει πως έχεις περάσει τέτοια εκπαίδευση που με αυτές τις συνθήκες δεν έχει πρόβλημα. Πιο δύσκολα ήταν τα πράγματα σε αυτό το βίντεο th-cam.com/video/_kfprgHBGVQ/w-d-xo.html
Miss flying in and out of Ellinikon International Airport, I flew in and out of the old US Airforce side when I flew as an aircrew on US Navy Aircraft. My favorite plane to watch was the old Olympic Air Shorts Aircraft
Yes, but the most insane vortex are filmed also in Athens, back of the biggest aircraft of the world. Antonov An-225! Check this video th-cam.com/video/SGc1hkm-PCc/w-d-xo.html
Those highly skilled pilots make it look like they do it every day…oh, wait they do! Actually, my friend’s dad was an American AL’s Captain who had a very highly sought after route, only the most senior pilots get…ORD to LAX to OGG and back. He retired around 1988 after finding himself a “dishy stew” and made my broheim Paul. In the 70s, 80s he was making huge money; $275K plus! Inflation may make that seem not so large but back then a loaded Cadillac was like $8K (maybe $20K in ‘88.) However, he had to (FAA mandate) only go to “work” 19 days/month! So he only worked 2/3rds of what any normal person does and considering that he loved what he was doing…he didn’t work a day in his career! No souls lost and no aircraft damaged!
Next of Spata-Loutsa avenue. You must hate your 4x4 vehicle to go 😅 😂 🤣. Hope that you don't try a drone flight around the airport LOL. Contact via mail for more.
Je comprends les gens qui ont la phobie de l avion .moi meme je pense sincerement que l avion est le moyen de transport le plus securise .li n y a qu a voir les statistiques .
Not often for Athens but they do during those days 😀. Howevere we still beilive the video Crooswinds II is harder th-cam.com/video/_kfprgHBGVQ/w-d-xo.html
@@11AviationVideos i flew 5 times to Athens with Aegean airline and 4 times the flight with quite turbulent and crapy landings. Maybe just bad luck. Or amateur pilots :p
21R. Actually the wind was almost on the runway. Many go arounds on Extreme Crosswind Landings at Athens Airport - Part I and Part II available here: th-cam.com/users/11AviationVideossearch?query=Extreme%20Crosswind%20Landings%20at%20Athens%20Airport%20-%20Part
Καλή η προσπάθεια, "ζωντανή", αλλά ρε αδερφέ, στην προσγείωση από την Κωνσταντινούπολη μου το χάλασες.... Στο επόμενο βίντεο σου δεν θα ήθελα να διαβάσω το έκτρωμα "Istanbul"... Μια τόσο φτωχή και άσχημη γλώσσα δεν έχει θέση πουθενά... Σ'ευχαριστώ, καλή συνέχεια στην προσπάθεια σου.
Τραβάμε καμία φορά απο διεθνή site που κάνουν streaming αλλά ήταν down τα link. Προφανώς λόγω καιρού γιατί είχε πολλές ώρες διακοπές ρεύματος στην περιοχή.
@@11AviationVideos έχεις βρει κάποιο που να έχει τα δικά μας αεροδρόμια ?? Πολύ καλό βίντεο !! Και καλό που είσαι κεντραρισμενος στον διάδρομο,εστι έχουμε καλύτερη εικόνα !
@@KOUKAROS-GR το liveatc.net έχει το Approach και αρκετές φορές και πύργο με όχι καλή κάλυψη όμως. Κάποια streams δουλεύουν περιστασιακά. Τα βρίσκουμε κυρίως μέσα από FSIM forums κλπ
I thought that too. I was surprised at how few kicked the rudder in just before touch down rather than just after. Maybe the for-shortening made it look worse than it was?
@@jimarcher5255 The technique to hold the plane in line with the RW centreline with into wind wing low and opposite rudder is called a side slip - which I too find a bit counter-intuitive but that's what it's called. ( I do understand why but I still think Forward Slip / Side Slip names should be reversed !LOL). But you are right that airliners can't do a side slip due to wingspan so the preferred procedure is to kick the plane straight when just above the RW with rudder but holding the wings level. These days aircraft gear can manage lateral landing loads so pilots just stick it on still crabbed and then straighten up - as most of the pilots did in the video
@@jimarcher5255 it is possible to hit the engine cowl or wing tip to runway thats why airliners approach wings level and crabbed in to wind. you should maintain that crab angle until touch down. offcourse little rolls are acceptable to maintain centerline alignment. just before touchdown you kick rudder to align aircraft nose with runway centerline to protect landing gear structure from excessive lateral forces. most airliners can land with 5-7 degrees crab angle.
Will you accept an invitation to give some lessons to these pilots, in order to improve their landing technique? If you were a professional pilot, you should consider that all landings were safe in these extreme conditions. Such guys criticizing from their couch, get their underwear 🩲 dirty, just by watching these videos!
@@AEROZAN1 invitation accepted, 19800 flight hours, senior examiner on A320/330/340/350 and 40 years of airline experience as a captain an instructor, I witness firsthand the decline in flying skills of our younger pilots and believe me, some of these landings are scary because of the lack of skill to handle crosswind by their pilots. Other landings show expertise but unfortunately , not many.
@@cockpitviews I could accepted your experience and your comments in the debriefing, if you were a crew member in these flights. You are not informed about the actual conditions and the phenomena caused by the surrounded terrain (shear, downdrafs etc) in the specific airport. If I had your experience I would pay respect to my colleagues,(and remain silent) as they were trying to do their job, in these extreme conditions, instead of advertising my thousands of hours (if any). Have a nice day CAPTAIN!
You are right. we have some old videos on the channel, before 2000, Thessaloniki, Athens, Larnaca. Back those days several aircraft types, many airlines.
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I used to hang out at the old Athens airport with my buddies, drinking cold ones, in the summers a very long time ago. There was a spot that wasn't fenced off, just before the runway, and thus airplanes would fly just over our heads. Good memories.
Lotta Jet exhaust
Was watching beautiful airplanes from the beautiful beach in Voula .
From Kavouri airforce base.
Pppp
This is beautiful. No commentary, no music...just landings with real onsite audio. Thank you!
we trying to keep the original sound but not all the time is possible. We will try!
If you’re a pilot and reading this comment, i want to thank you for flying passengers with safety and a big applause for flying these tons of metal even in the worst weather conditions!
Respect! 🙏
Really challenging some times. Thanks. Much appreciated.
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If you're are a computer thank you for improving to the point of flying any plane, flawlessly without mistakes or human faults.
@@michaelmccarthy4615 Ahahaha!
excellent filming and as always, tremendous job by the flying crew to get people to their destination safe and sound!
Stunning location for filming this awesome crosswind landings, amazing video my friend!!
Thank you my friend. Not that nice than yours! I hope to meet you in Madeira soon! Keep the good work. We are subscribed on your channel.
@@11AviationVideos Hope you can visit Madeira soon, We will be here to meet you :)
Green grass in the end of December, merely 2200 kilometers away... Been there a few times, but still unbelievable. Can't imagine what it's like in Madeira now - palms? orchids? bikinis?
Το καλύτερο Ελληνικό video για crosswind προσγειώσεις!
Talenti i pilotiteve heronjt e ajrit qe punojne me perkushtim per publikun nje pergezim te vecante bravo
Thank you!
Great shots, a bit reminiscent of Hanover to be honest. All the efforts are excellent but it is true that Aegean stands out both in terms of accuracy and smoothness. Especially the Aegean coming in from Rome, the guy went straight to the center despite having to approach with a full opposite lock. The same goes for his colleagues arriving from Belgrade and Istanbul. These guys really give a lesson, probably because they play on "home ground". Lufthansen is also excellent, but he classically dropped it, as if it is somehow in their protocol to touch down in a kind of abrupt way, although straight. In any case, we thank all the operators and crews plus the creator of this footage.
Playing on #home ground#...True....
Well commented, same thoughts here. And yes, "betont aufsetzen" (means " performing an accentuated touchdown") in gusty conditions, especially on wet or contaminated runways, is a thing here... But not just LH uses that procedure.
Just adding a quick explanation if I may: The main reason for "not greasing it" when windgusts are prevailing (especially when the runway is contaminated with slush or standing water, as mentioned before) is the accelerated (ideally immediate) response of the air/ground sensors (the so-called "weight on wheels sensor", mostly combined with a predetermined sensed speed of wheelspin - depending on A/C type) which allows for the groundspoilers to deploy and thus lets most of the A/C's weight settle on the main gear within seconds, making the wheelbrakes most effective and providing for both increased lateral control and braking performance. Additionally, it minimizes the risk of hydroplaning and/or skidding laterally on a slippery runway in crosswind conditions since firm contact with the actual runway surface by "cutting through" the layer of whatever contamination right away is key. Passengers may not always appreciate the accentuated touchdown, but if they knew, they would most likely appreciate the increased safety margin resulting from it 🙂
EDIT: typo
Really very well filmed from the best angle to enjoy landings and pilot inputs. Congrats and thanks.
ενα μεγαλο Μπραβο στα αλανια πιλοτους !
Δε λες τίποτα....
Εξαιρετική Λήψη καλύτερη προσγείωση της Α3-651 !
Stunning capture! May I feature the Avcon Jet Global Express landing in one of my next episodes? Of course with a link back to your original video. Cheers!
Yes of course. Thank you for asking. We are funs of your channel btw
@@11AviationVideos Awesome, thank you :)
One of the best video compilations I’ve seen! Beautiful tracking and excellent camera angle! Congrats!
Κύριε Ιησού Χριστέ ελέησόν με τόν αμαρτωλόν.
Είναι λίγο αγχωτικό από έξω αλλά για να πιάσεις χειριστήρια από αεροπλάνο σημαίνει πως έχεις περάσει τέτοια εκπαίδευση που με αυτές τις συνθήκες δεν έχει πρόβλημα. Πιο δύσκολα ήταν τα πράγματα σε αυτό το βίντεο th-cam.com/video/_kfprgHBGVQ/w-d-xo.html
That’s one of the smoothest Ryanair landings I’ve ever seen
I was impressed by the beautiful landing of the Cessna 680.
Πολύ ωραία δουλειά. Μπράβο!
The wings on the 787 side to side!!!! Anyone else see the left vs right?! Impressive !!!
extremely flex!!!
The Cessna 680 was very nicely handled!!
Yes last few feet get a gust!
Καλημέρα
Ωραίο βίντεο, πολύ ωραία πλάνα
Πολύ καλό βίντεο Elliott! Δύσκολη ημέρα για τους πιλότους...
Fantastic video my friend ✈️
Thank you vary much! Best wishes for the Chritmas and Happy New Year!
ATH airport remains one of my favorite airports to fly in and out of! Great video!
Thank you my friend. Hope to see you around!
Miss flying in and out of Ellinikon International Airport, I flew in and out of the old US Airforce side when I flew as an aircrew on US Navy Aircraft. My favorite plane to watch was the old Olympic Air Shorts Aircraft
good old times
Menudos artistas los pilotos.
Pretty amazing seeing the 777 wing tip vortices disturbing the heated air 👌
Yes, but the most insane vortex are filmed also in Athens, back of the biggest aircraft of the world. Antonov An-225! Check this video th-cam.com/video/SGc1hkm-PCc/w-d-xo.html
great machinery and piloting skills
Μπράβο σας, απ τα καλύτερα βίντεο προσγειωσεων.
Ευχαριστούμε!
Nice video ,congrats !
Thanks!
Μπράβο στους ανθρώπους του ΑΙΑ και στο φίλο που το ανέβασε , εξαιρετική δουλειά !
Ευχαριστούμε καλές γιορτές!
Great filming and excellent job by the pilots! Do you also have the flight from Brussels to Athens that day? Thanks!
No we did not film all the flights of that day..
Great video, great filming!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Good job guys.....Thank you once more....
Thank you too!
Нормально и даже снега нет😊
Great footage . Looks filmed from quite far off - zoomed or telephoto giving that cool perspective.
You are correct
300K views?! That is amazing!
When you see the landing strip from your seat, u pucker up and say i'm never flying again.
how long is the "swooped looking" runway. Good 'comfy' looking runway. Good video!
It's almost 4.200 metres long
Were airline pilots never taught how to forward slip and touch down with the upwind wing low?
That's why you came 12:12
Happy New Year!
Those highly skilled pilots make it look like they do it every day…oh, wait they do!
Actually, my friend’s dad was an American AL’s Captain who had a very highly sought after route, only the most senior pilots get…ORD to LAX to OGG and back. He retired around 1988 after finding himself a “dishy stew” and made my broheim Paul. In the 70s, 80s he was making huge money; $275K plus!
Inflation may make that seem not so large but back then a loaded Cadillac was like $8K (maybe $20K in ‘88.)
However, he had to (FAA mandate) only go to “work” 19 days/month! So he only worked 2/3rds of what any normal person does and considering that he loved what he was doing…he didn’t work a day in his career! No souls lost and no aircraft damaged!
Μπράβο! Καταπληκτικές λήψεις! Αλήθεια που είχες την κάμερα;
Αστα με 40 κόμβους αέρα.... Μεγάλη ιστορια!
Αυτό είναι στα όρια του stall. Τρομερά επικίνδυνο. 😮😮
Άστο......
Perfect. Tell us your point of view.
Next of Spata-Loutsa avenue. You must hate your 4x4 vehicle to go 😅 😂 🤣. Hope that you don't try a drone flight around the airport LOL. Contact via mail for more.
'Εγραψες!!!
Thanks my friend George.
New Subscribers!
Those puffs of smokes are TYRES TEARS
This black surface is an anti-skid layer killing the tires. But from the other hand offers a good friction during wet times
What kind of lens do you use?
well done.Bravo
I was at the GQ-343 at Dec 18
Scary.
but always safe!
These are known as butter landings😁 Μπράβο φίλε 👍
best nato pilots for a reason
WoW!
jaką KAMERĄ i z jakim ZOOMem - filmowano ? {perfect filming} :-))
On jest z greci nie rozumie polskiego
Στο 5:15 βλέπουμε γιατί είναι πιο επικίνδυνο να προσπαθήσεις butter landing με cross...
why did the runway looks weird and the plane is turning a little left
its the offset angle we standing
Ευγε στους απογονους του ΙΚΑΡΟΥ....
I was in one of those flights that day. It sucked. lol Sky Express from London rain and high winds, was bad.
Lucky you!!!
Je comprends les gens qui ont la phobie de l avion .moi meme je pense sincerement que l avion est le moyen de transport le plus securise .li n y a qu a voir les statistiques .
c'est et ce sera pour toujours le plus sûr ! Bonne année!
Κάθετη προσγείωση!
Do they actually blow out their tires landing vertically ? Just looks like a spaceship or Vstol ?
Need to add: wow WOW and God bless the pilots who attempt this with courage and not a little confidence!!!!
Does nobody use into wind aileron anymore?!
11 - 🥰👍
Pilots earning money here
Not often for Athens but they do during those days 😀. Howevere we still beilive the video Crooswinds II is harder th-cam.com/video/_kfprgHBGVQ/w-d-xo.html
All flights to Athens are too much turbulent . Or maybe just happened to me.
Most of the times weather is smooth in Athens. That was an exception
@@11AviationVideos i flew 5 times to Athens with Aegean airline and 4 times the flight with quite turbulent and crapy landings. Maybe just bad luck. Or amateur pilots :p
wind coming from the left
From the sky I think….
Why they don’t apply crosswind landing techniques?
What makes you think they do not?
Ο καλύτερος είναι ο Θεσσαλονίκη - Αθήνα
Προσπάθησε…
Why no go arounds on 23R? Climb straight out to SAT according to the plate.
21R. Actually the wind was almost on the runway. Many go arounds on Extreme Crosswind Landings at Athens Airport - Part I and Part II available here: th-cam.com/users/11AviationVideossearch?query=Extreme%20Crosswind%20Landings%20at%20Athens%20Airport%20-%20Part
I was in the 787 ber-ath
Luck you!!!!
i think that southern and western winds are very dangerous in this airport
Καλή η προσπάθεια, "ζωντανή", αλλά ρε αδερφέ, στην προσγείωση από την Κωνσταντινούπολη μου το χάλασες....
Στο επόμενο βίντεο σου δεν θα ήθελα να διαβάσω το έκτρωμα "Istanbul"... Μια τόσο φτωχή και άσχημη γλώσσα δεν έχει θέση πουθενά...
Σ'ευχαριστώ, καλή συνέχεια στην προσπάθεια σου.
Καταλαβαίνω και συμφωνώ. Τα standard του ICAO βάζουμε για συμβατότητα με τα αγγλικά
Τέλειο ! Αν και θα ήθελα ήχο από τις συνομιλίες !
Τραβάμε καμία φορά απο διεθνή site που κάνουν streaming αλλά ήταν down τα link. Προφανώς λόγω καιρού γιατί είχε πολλές ώρες διακοπές ρεύματος στην περιοχή.
@@11AviationVideos έχεις βρει κάποιο που να έχει τα δικά μας αεροδρόμια ?? Πολύ καλό βίντεο !! Και καλό που είσαι κεντραρισμενος στον διάδρομο,εστι έχουμε καλύτερη εικόνα !
@@KOUKAROS-GR το liveatc.net έχει το Approach και αρκετές φορές και πύργο με όχι καλή κάλυψη όμως. Κάποια streams δουλεύουν περιστασιακά. Τα βρίσκουμε κυρίως μέσα από FSIM forums κλπ
@@11AviationVideos ωραίος αδερφέ!
Τρομερές προσγειώσεις αλλά αυτό δεν είναι το αεροδρόμιο "Ελευθέριος Βενιζέλος".
Few of them applied correct tecnique. Little crab angle during touch down is acceptable but excessive crab angle is not.
I thought that too. I was surprised at how few kicked the rudder in just before touch down rather than just after. Maybe the for-shortening made it look worse than it was?
In an airliner is a forward slip out of the question for a crosswind landing?
@@jimarcher5255 The technique to hold the plane in line with the RW centreline with into wind wing low and opposite rudder is called a side slip - which I too find a bit counter-intuitive but that's what it's called. ( I do understand why but I still think Forward Slip / Side Slip names should be reversed !LOL). But you are right that airliners can't do a side slip due to wingspan so the preferred procedure is to kick the plane straight when just above the RW with rudder but holding the wings level.
These days aircraft gear can manage lateral landing loads so pilots just stick it on still crabbed and then straighten up - as most of the pilots did in the video
@@jimarcher5255 it is possible to hit the engine cowl or wing tip to runway thats why airliners approach wings level and crabbed in to wind. you should maintain that crab angle until touch down. offcourse little rolls are acceptable to maintain centerline alignment. just before touchdown you kick rudder to align aircraft nose with runway centerline to protect landing gear structure from excessive lateral forces. most airliners can land with 5-7 degrees crab angle.
@@CaptMeMo_350 Thanks, I kind of thought it was because of the wing tips and didn’t even think of the engine cowls.
I landed with one of them that day
lucky you!
my anxiety would be off the charts 😭😭fuckkkk nooooo
😁😁 no problem, the wind was "on the runway"
some how ryanair had the softest landing
Τρομερές προσγειώσεις αλλά αυτό δεν είναι το αεροδρόμιο "Ελευθέριος Βενιζέλος".
Αυτό είναι στον 21R..
gia pes mas poio einai?
LGAV 21R and of story.
@@bodyspike ego to 3erw
Where is the extreme winds
try here for some harder th-cam.com/video/_kfprgHBGVQ/w-d-xo.html
Some good and some (really) bad techniques with sometimes no rudder correction before the flare....
Will you accept an invitation to give some lessons to these pilots, in order to improve their landing technique? If you were a professional pilot, you should consider that all landings were safe in these extreme conditions. Such guys criticizing from their couch, get their underwear 🩲 dirty, just by watching these videos!
@@AEROZAN1 invitation accepted, 19800 flight hours, senior examiner on A320/330/340/350 and 40 years of airline experience as a captain an instructor, I witness firsthand the decline in flying skills of our younger pilots and believe me, some of these landings are scary because of the lack of skill to handle crosswind by their pilots. Other landings show expertise but unfortunately , not many.
😀
@@cockpitviews I could accepted your experience and your comments in the debriefing, if you were a crew member in these flights. You are not informed about the actual conditions and the phenomena caused by the surrounded terrain (shear, downdrafs etc) in the specific airport. If I had your experience I would pay respect to my colleagues,(and remain silent) as they were trying to do their job, in these extreme conditions, instead of advertising my thousands of hours (if any). Have a nice day CAPTAIN!
@@cockpitviews tell us which was the most reckless and which was the best one please. With timestamps.
Landed in 2008 the gyros shop was closed, the portokali take away was closed, the closet was closed but the mcdonalds opet...wtf?! Global show??
!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A320'S again A320'S and again A320'S and so on A320'S the future of aviation is not a promising future !
You are right. we have some old videos on the channel, before 2000, Thessaloniki, Athens, Larnaca. Back those days several aircraft types, many airlines.
I don't see any effects.
Try here then th-cam.com/video/_kfprgHBGVQ/w-d-xo.html
I’m not a pilot but I’d just like to say that the BA pilots boys/ girls handled it best , all the other’s were effete and overly dramatic.
Everyone can understand that you are not a pilot...
καλυτεροι πιλοτοι μονο ελληνες
Παντα......