This community never ceases to amaze me. Never have I met a more kindhearted, generous bunch of individuals that support each other at every turn! Even when we disagree about things, we treat each other with respect and understanding, and what more could a person really ask for??
Great video! I must say it kind of makes me want to get a Large Sebenza now 😂. I’m glad you enjoyed checking them out. Thanks BJ for sending along your Large 21! I’ve been on the receiving end of this community’s generosity so many times it always makes me stop in my tracks. Best community out there! Cheers brother. ✊
Great video JB!! You are absolutely right the knife community is really awesome!! I love the insingo blade shape as well!!! Thanks for sharing brother!!!
Speaking as someone that has been on the receiving end of this community's generosity, I agree wholeheartedly with your opinion!! Great comparison, brother! I enjoyed the video!! I could be wrong but I'm going to go with the small being your pick lol.
Great comparison! I just picked up a large drop point and I can definitely feel the tolerances like you mentioned. It just oozes quality. I don’t think people realize just how perfectly built they are until they hold one. I got mine in a swap, and before holding it for the first time, I never would have spent that much on a knife. Now, I don’t think I’ll ever be able to go back. Even my wife, who isn’t a knife person at all, said “wow, that’s built amazing!” after holding it and playing with it just once.
I just saw Sean's review yesterday and already you have the Sebenza in both sizes; that postman is fast! :) Granted they are at the high end of production folder pricing, but based on this review and Sean's they seem like semi-custom (similar to Bark River in fixed blades.) The blade geometry is done extremely well, as is the blade shape! Thanks for another excellent review!
I am and have been torn about wanting a crk for a while now. I am yet to hear anyone say that they aren’t anything less than what you think you’ll get. But to pay what I’d expect to pay for a gun on a knife is very hard for me to bring myself to do. Especially when other companies have shown that the exact same materials can be brought to market for far less $. I understand that the effort has a value but there comes a point where you have to ask how much value are you bringing the customer. Hence my dilemma. Great video none the less. Enjoy the day
I've had the small for about 3 years. It's the right handed model. I'll tell you from me, I would buy the large in left handed. As a lefty I want all knives in left handed if possible. But when I picked up mine it was a screaming deal , used and opening was not a choice. I picked mine up for $220. Worth every penny. And I would pay upto $400 for a nib left handed. But I think in today's market. CRK as just a bit over priced. Great knives and worth there weight in gold 10 years ago. Even 5 years ago. But today's market is flooded with awesome knives as good if not better, made in the USA for $280-350. So if CRK wants to stay competitive I believe they are going to have to reduce the cost. They have been making these models for over 25 yrs so " R&D and machine to make them" has long been paid for 10 fold.
You make a very good point rekozma! Personally I don't thnk that will happen but you never know. People are still buying them at the top dollar price even though the market is flooded as you pointed out. Thanks for watching my friend!!
Just into to deep end w no floaties. I got same exact two 3wks ago. A week later sent them to CRK spa and getting them personally engraved. Determined these are lifers and gonna be hand me downs.
@@BigRedEDC oh I will. I'm working batty amounts of hours and selling things like crazy to get a bit of a cushion built in case the new managers do something weird like delete my department like Nissan did and I'm also learning leathercrafting so I can maybe make a bit on the side by making sheaths for people
Great video and opinions about the knifes.....😉 I've pounded on the table making my case for crk since the moment the first 1 I bought hit my hand. I know the price is a bit steep... and most people see it as just another titanium slab constructed frame lock knife... in a sense that's really all it is. But show me another company that sticks around for as long as crk.... show me another company that offers blade replacement and will still have the blades 30 years from now, or offer's you the spa treatment option... Show me another company that takes the time to make their tolerances even close to what crk does... and crk does their heat treat in house and every example comes back within their advertised target range .... Here's the thing... if you don't keep your knives around for extended periods of time then I wouldn't suggest a crk... they're designed and built to be user friendly worker knives and if you don't use the shit out of your knives it'd be a waste of money to buy crk. And the 1 thing that I love about my sebenza more than anything else on it or any other knife I've ever owned is the ease of maintenance... take out the 3 screws, clean everything, re grease, then slap it all back together and torque the shit out of all the screws and the action is the same every damn time. There's no adjusting the pivot and it stays the same with extended use. Anyway sorry for running my mouth so much. Lol. Awesome vid J.B.! Thanks again for your service to our community!!!!
I can't thank you enough for loaning it to me to do the comparison of the 2! It goes back to our discussion from SKL! You are very pro CRK and Sebenza because you love the knife a feel it has every bit of value in it. There are others that feel that its just way too much to spend on a knife and that's cool too. That's why there are so many makes, models and colors out there....so there is a little something for everyone!
Hells ya I have the small 21 insingo with natural micarta. Had the large clippoint with micarta too but I traded it. Kicking myself still for doing that. Lol. But I’m with you I prefer the small. Especially with inlays. Awesome video by the way!!
I knew you were going to pick the small. I know how much you like the smaller knives. From everything I have seen and heard you can definitely feel the quality on the knives or knifes as our friend puts it. They are great looking in a subtle way. They aren't going to win any flashy contests but the tolerances are spot on. You got to handle 2 great knives. Personally I have to disagree with you on which one but sorry I have to go with what I usually find fits me best.
Lol...yep, it fit me just a little better! They are really great knives! I may have one someday but not at this exact point in time! Thank you very much watching Rick!!
I'm with you, 200 is an expensive knife for me. I do like the one sided stud and the inside relief cut on the frame lock, makes it cleaner and nicer looking. I wouldn't get the use out of a 4-500.00 knife. It would just be a really expensive mail opener.
I completely understand Randy! They are great knives for sure but it has to be a personal choice to make that type of investment! Thank you do much for watching!
Thank you very much! At this point in time, I would have to agree with you. My most expensive is right around $200 as well. Thanks for watching my friend!!
I like budget knives because that's all I can afford. I did save up & get a couple Spyderco's in zdp-189, but most are under 100 bucks. I do like looking at more expensive knives though.
about the truth I do not use my knives so much ... almost never ... I do not work, am never in the forest ... I have my edc knife in my pocket ... but it feels good to know that I have a knife if I needed one(bad English)✌🤙🤟👍🍻
The Sebenza is my Grail knife, and has been since I first saw one. I'll almost certainly never own one, though. Because they are so expensive, and rightfully so, I'd be afraid to carry it for fear of losing it. And I don't really want to own a knife I'm scared to carry. I can't see the point. So I'll dream, safe in the knowledge that it's more a pleasant fantasy than an unfulfilled longing. And I'm with you. The smaller one. My hands aren't huge, so I'm sure it's be a better fit.
Hello. First. I can't agree more about the friendliness of this community. And i am only a sub. Yet even the bigger channels reply to comments. Second. The Sebenza. I see the quality and appreciate the beauty yet I don't think i could ever justify that price for a production knife. A custom i can see why it is expensive but not this, sorry. Nice to see here but not for me. All the best my friend.
I have a few knives that are in the $40-$50 range. They are the most expensive blades I own. I have handled some expensive knives and don't get me wrong they are very cool. I won't buy a knife I won't use and I would have a hard time cutting open boxes with a $500 knife. If it was more than $100 it would go in the safe and what kind of waste would that be?
I don't understand it I do not understand it we are talking about knives knives supposed to be used knives supposed to be cleaned knives are supposed to be sharpened now if you have Deep Pockets and you're buying one of these super high in fucking knives it's a collector's knife you buy it you put it up and you can look at it once in awhile there is no logic in that you work hard you pay your money to buy a tool a knife is a tool nothing more nothing less to be honest I can't afford to buy anything over $100 and so far as I know. I have 30 knives in my collection and they all range from $50 to $100 and I will give these knives to my son when I die when my son gets these knives he knows I used it and I took care of it a little bit of my soul are in these knives they are meaningful
I can tell you that these knives that were loaned to me have been used without question! If you choose to not spend that much on a knife, that is by all means your call. If someone does choose to spend that much on a knife and put it in a safe or use it as they would any other knife is up to them! I use all of my knives as well..no matter what it cost. Now I havent spent more than $200 on a knife myself and dont plan to in the near future! That could change...who knows!
@@BigRedEDC I'll have to agree with you if I ever win the lottery I May buy these high-end expensive knives but hopefully I want because that's not me as a person and I hope if I ever do strike it rich money doesn't change the way I look at life have a good one brother
@@roningraves6563 tell me what do you use that $400+ knife for cutting boxes opening letters? Congratulations you paid $400+ for a letter opener and box cutter
RAIN MAYHEM Like I said, you've obviously never owned one. Should I get rid of my M5 because an '87 S10 pickup drives just as well? Nope. I work hard. I 'm lucky enough to make a good living. I use and depend on my knives and gear everyday and know the value of well built tools. When I carry my Sebenza, it brings me joy. It's part of a rich knife heritage and is always there for me, just like the 40 year old Uncle Henry I was given as a kid and still have; Just like the Ka-Bar my uncle carried in Nam and I still have; Just like the Gerber my friend's widow gave me. There are those who think a CRK is cheap. There's quality knives at $30 or $300. As a fan of knives, I like them all and respect whatever people use and whatever works for them. You on the other hand have to badmouth things you have no firsthand knowledge of. Which is kinda sad if you think about it. Don't be mad. You do you. :)
The community never ceases to amaze me... awesome!
I cant agree more Bubba!!
Wow JB! I am impressed! You are completely correct about the knife community, it is awesome group of individuals.
Yes indeed Jeremy! Thanks for watching!
This community never ceases to amaze me. Never have I met a more kindhearted, generous bunch of individuals that support each other at every turn! Even when we disagree about things, we treat each other with respect and understanding, and what more could a person really ask for??
I couldnt agree more Marshall! Thank you very much for watching my friend!
Great video! I must say it kind of makes me want to get a Large Sebenza now 😂. I’m glad you enjoyed checking them out. Thanks BJ for sending along your Large 21! I’ve been on the receiving end of this community’s generosity so many times it always makes me stop in my tracks. Best community out there! Cheers brother. ✊
I cant thank you and BJ enough for giving me the opportunity to check them out! Many thanks!!!!
Great video JB! The knife community is awesome.
Thanks Scott and yes it is!!!
Great video JB!! You are absolutely right the knife community is really awesome!! I love the insingo blade shape as well!!! Thanks for sharing brother!!!
Yes indeed!! Thank you very much for watching!
Speaking as someone that has been on the receiving end of this community's generosity, I agree wholeheartedly with your opinion!! Great comparison, brother! I enjoyed the video!! I could be wrong but I'm going to go with the small being your pick lol.
No doubt brother!! You are correct...small wins out!!! Thanks for watching brother!
Great comparison! I just picked up a large drop point and I can definitely feel the tolerances like you mentioned. It just oozes quality. I don’t think people realize just how perfectly built they are until they hold one.
I got mine in a swap, and before holding it for the first time, I never would have spent that much on a knife. Now, I don’t think I’ll ever be able to go back. Even my wife, who isn’t a knife person at all, said “wow, that’s built amazing!” after holding it and playing with it just once.
Right on Caleb! Very well built knives for sure! Thank you for watching!!
I just saw Sean's review yesterday and already you have the Sebenza in both sizes; that postman is fast! :) Granted they are at the high end of production folder pricing, but based on this review and Sean's they seem like semi-custom (similar to Bark River in fixed blades.) The blade geometry is done extremely well, as is the blade shape! Thanks for another excellent review!
LOL...very fast!! They really do seem like a semi-custom knife JJ! The blade shape is fantastic! Thanks for watching!!
I am and have been torn about wanting a crk for a while now. I am yet to hear anyone say that they aren’t anything less than what you think you’ll get. But to pay what I’d expect to pay for a gun on a knife is very hard for me to bring myself to do. Especially when other companies have shown that the exact same materials can be brought to market for far less $. I understand that the effort has a value but there comes a point where you have to ask how much value are you bringing the customer. Hence my dilemma. Great video none the less. Enjoy the day
That is pretty much the exact point I am at this point in time! Thank you very much for watching!
I've had the small for about 3 years. It's the right handed model. I'll tell you from me, I would buy the large in left handed. As a lefty I want all knives in left handed if possible. But when I picked up mine it was a screaming deal , used and opening was not a choice. I picked mine up for $220. Worth every penny. And I would pay upto $400 for a nib left handed. But I think in today's market. CRK as just a bit over priced. Great knives and worth there weight in gold 10 years ago. Even 5 years ago. But today's market is flooded with awesome knives as good if not better, made in the USA for $280-350. So if CRK wants to stay competitive I believe they are going to have to reduce the cost. They have been making these models for over 25 yrs so " R&D and machine to make them" has long been paid for 10 fold.
You make a very good point rekozma! Personally I don't thnk that will happen but you never know. People are still buying them at the top dollar price even though the market is flooded as you pointed out. Thanks for watching my friend!!
Great video brother
Thank you very much!!
Excellent video.
Thank you very much Rich!
Just into to deep end w no floaties. I got same exact two 3wks ago. A week later sent them to CRK spa and getting them personally engraved. Determined these are lifers and gonna be hand me downs.
Right on! Enjoy my friend!!
@@BigRedEDC I will only ~6wks left before I get them back. Should've spent some more time playing/using them before fore sending them out.
Once this nightmare with the new management is over at work I'm putting a Sebenza back in the collection
Hope you can!
@@BigRedEDC oh I will. I'm working batty amounts of hours and selling things like crazy to get a bit of a cushion built in case the new managers do something weird like delete my department like Nissan did and I'm also learning leathercrafting so I can maybe make a bit on the side by making sheaths for people
Great video and opinions about the knifes.....😉 I've pounded on the table making my case for crk since the moment the first 1 I bought hit my hand.
I know the price is a bit steep... and most people see it as just another titanium slab constructed frame lock knife... in a sense that's really all it is.
But show me another company that sticks around for as long as crk.... show me another company that offers blade replacement and will still have the blades 30 years from now, or offer's you the spa treatment option...
Show me another company that takes the time to make their tolerances even close to what crk does... and crk does their heat treat in house and every example comes back within their advertised target range ....
Here's the thing... if you don't keep your knives around for extended periods of time then I wouldn't suggest a crk... they're designed and built to be user friendly worker knives and if you don't use the shit out of your knives it'd be a waste of money to buy crk.
And the 1 thing that I love about my sebenza more than anything else on it or any other knife I've ever owned is the ease of maintenance... take out the 3 screws, clean everything, re grease, then slap it all back together and torque the shit out of all the screws and the action is the same every damn time. There's no adjusting the pivot and it stays the same with extended use.
Anyway sorry for running my mouth so much. Lol. Awesome vid J.B.! Thanks again for your service to our community!!!!
I can't thank you enough for loaning it to me to do the comparison of the 2! It goes back to our discussion from SKL! You are very pro CRK and Sebenza because you love the knife a feel it has every bit of value in it. There are others that feel that its just way too much to spend on a knife and that's cool too. That's why there are so many makes, models and colors out there....so there is a little something for everyone!
Love them both
Thanks Andreas!
Awesome video a Grail knife for me for sure and great to see both sizes and will help to narrow down witch to get
Thanks for watching Jeremy!!
Hells ya I have the small 21 insingo with natural micarta. Had the large clippoint with micarta too but I traded it. Kicking myself still for doing that. Lol. But I’m with you I prefer the small. Especially with inlays. Awesome video by the way!!
Thank you very much Tim and thanks for watching and commenting!
I knew you were going to pick the small. I know how much you like the smaller knives.
From everything I have seen and heard you can definitely feel the quality on the knives or knifes as our friend puts it. They are great looking in a subtle way. They aren't going to win any flashy contests but the tolerances are spot on. You got to handle 2 great knives. Personally I have to disagree with you on which one but sorry I have to go with what I usually find fits me best.
Lol...yep, it fit me just a little better! They are really great knives! I may have one someday but not at this exact point in time! Thank you very much watching Rick!!
I like the large ! But not at $650cnd !
They both have a great blade shape
I hear ya brother! The blade is the best feature for me!!
I'm with you, 200 is an expensive knife for me. I do like the one sided stud and the inside relief cut on the frame lock, makes it cleaner and nicer looking. I wouldn't get the use out of a 4-500.00 knife. It would just be a really expensive mail opener.
I completely understand Randy! They are great knives for sure but it has to be a personal choice to make that type of investment! Thank you do much for watching!
I guessed you would choose the small one.
I can't see paying that much for any knife.
My most expensive is around $200.
Love this video 💜💜🦅🦅💜💜
Thank you very much! At this point in time, I would have to agree with you. My most expensive is right around $200 as well. Thanks for watching my friend!!
I like budget knives because that's all I can afford. I did save up & get a couple Spyderco's in zdp-189, but most are under 100 bucks. I do like looking at more expensive knives though.
Right on William! Thank you very much for watching!
about the truth I do not use my knives so much ... almost never ... I do not work, am never in the forest ... I have my edc knife in my pocket ... but it feels good to know that I have a knife if I needed one(bad English)✌🤙🤟👍🍻
Absolutely nothing wrong with that if it suits your needs! Thanks for watching Rich!
That small knife is for me too.....Good respect as nice to see....Good info....Good stuff....
Thank you very much Scott!!
The Sebenza is my Grail knife, and has been since I first saw one. I'll almost certainly never own one, though. Because they are so expensive, and rightfully so, I'd be afraid to carry it for fear of losing it. And I don't really want to own a knife I'm scared to carry. I can't see the point. So I'll dream, safe in the knowledge that it's more a pleasant fantasy than an unfulfilled longing.
And I'm with you. The smaller one. My hands aren't huge, so I'm sure it's be a better fit.
You never know what can happen Grom! I hope you do get your grail one day! Thanks for watching brother!!
Do you have designer sunglasses?
Hello. First. I can't agree more about the friendliness of this community. And i am only a sub. Yet even the bigger channels reply to comments. Second. The Sebenza. I see the quality and appreciate the beauty yet I don't think i could ever justify that price for a production knife. A custom i can see why it is expensive but not this, sorry. Nice to see here but not for me. All the best my friend.
Completely understand your point of view RHINO! Thank you very much for watching!
I have a few knives that are in the $40-$50 range. They are the most expensive blades I own. I have handled some expensive knives and don't get me wrong they are very cool. I won't buy a knife I won't use and I would have a hard time cutting open boxes with a $500 knife. If it was more than $100 it would go in the safe and what kind of waste would that be?
Right on Carl! I cant thank you enough for watching my friend!!
Great video like that small one 👍 but don't think I would spend that much right now
I am pretty much at the same spot Kevin! Thanks for watching!
I need a large sebenza now. Dang it BigRed.
LOL...sorry man!!!
Both are nice, but if you can only pick one, a Large 21 Insigno is the way to go.
Nope...small fits my hand just a little better than the large!!
new sub great job
Thank you very much David! I hope you enjoy the content!
If I had to pick one it would be the small
Yes Sir...me too!! Small wins out by just a hair!!
Gimme the Sanrenmu copy because I’m a working class dude who will never be able/willing to spend that much on a knife... 😀
Right on Micah! Thank you very much for watching!
I don't understand it I do not understand it we are talking about knives knives supposed to be used knives supposed to be cleaned knives are supposed to be sharpened now if you have Deep Pockets and you're buying one of these super high in fucking knives it's a collector's knife you buy it you put it up and you can look at it once in awhile there is no logic in that you work hard you pay your money to buy a tool a knife is a tool nothing more nothing less to be honest I can't afford to buy anything over $100 and so far as I know. I have 30 knives in my collection and they all range from $50 to $100 and I will give these knives to my son when I die when my son gets these knives he knows I used it and I took care of it a little bit of my soul are in these knives they are meaningful
I can tell you that these knives that were loaned to me have been used without question! If you choose to not spend that much on a knife, that is by all means your call. If someone does choose to spend that much on a knife and put it in a safe or use it as they would any other knife is up to them! I use all of my knives as well..no matter what it cost. Now I havent spent more than $200 on a knife myself and dont plan to in the near future! That could change...who knows!
@@BigRedEDC I'll have to agree with you if I ever win the lottery I May buy these high-end expensive knives but hopefully I want because that's not me as a person and I hope if I ever do strike it rich money doesn't change the way I look at life have a good one brother
@@rickledford2953 Right on brother! I feel the exact same way!
not my budget type of knife!
I hear ya buddy! Thanks for watching!
Small ✌🤙🤟👍🍻everyday!!
Right on Rich!!
Overpriced like most knives. $40 in material yet they charge you 400+ lmao. Some People are suckers
RAIN MAYHEM You've obviously never used one. Worth every penny. Anyone who's had one agrees. The only people who say differently have never owned one.
That's why there are plenty of makes, models and colors available! A little bit of something foe everyone!
@@roningraves6563 tell me what do you use that $400+ knife for cutting boxes opening letters? Congratulations you paid $400+ for a letter opener and box cutter
RAIN MAYHEM Like I said, you've obviously never owned one. Should I get rid of my M5 because an '87 S10 pickup drives just as well? Nope. I work hard. I 'm lucky enough to make a good living. I use and depend on my knives and gear everyday and know the value of well built tools. When I carry my Sebenza, it brings me joy. It's part of a rich knife heritage and is always there for me, just like the 40 year old Uncle Henry I was given as a kid and still have; Just like the Ka-Bar my uncle carried in Nam and I still have; Just like the Gerber my friend's widow gave me. There are those who think a CRK is cheap. There's quality knives at $30 or $300. As a fan of knives, I like them all and respect whatever people use and whatever works for them. You on the other hand have to badmouth things you have no firsthand knowledge of. Which is kinda sad if you think about it. Don't be mad. You do you. :)
I think this is the point where we agree to disagree! @RAIN MAYHEM says "no way" and @Ronin Graves says "all day"....that's good enough for me!