Thank you for addressing this. I am not arguing, just asking for clarification. I know you addressed the "ben" being "sons" in this case (tzitzit), but is it not the same wording that is used in Leviticus 11 concerning the dietary laws? If so, I don't understand how a husband or father could be a woman's covering, otherwise women wouldn't have to follow Leviticus 11. I am open to correction. :) Again, thank you. Numbers 15:38 "Speak דַּבֵּ֞ר (dab·ber) 1696: to speak a prim. root to the sons בְּנֵ֤י (be·nei) 1121: son a prim. root of Israel, יִשְׂרָאֵל֙ (yis·ra·'el) 3478: "God strives," Numbers 11:2 Speak דַּבְּר֛וּ (dab·be·ru) 1696: to speak a prim. root to the sons בְּנֵ֥י (be·nei) 1121: son a prim. root of Israel, יִשְׂרָאֵ֖ל (yis·ra·'el) 3478: "God strives,"
Great question. As Rabbi Steve has explained it in this video, the men were responsible with leading their households as part of the Creator's design and so a covering does not imply a shifting of complete individual accountability and a proxy for one’s actions (“My husband is eating clean therefore I don’t have to...”), but rather a covering is responsible for making sure to do the actions based in Torah - which in this case of tzitziyot, is remembering all the commands of the Almighty and not going after our own eyes and heart.
Rabbi Steve briefly explains in this video that the women are included in that term in the sense of being covered by the men. (Think of how in many languages, a group of 1 man and 99 women is still described as a masculine term).
@@mtoi seems like a cop out because if it was just meant for males it could have been written "the sons" rather than "the children" seems with this commandment that rather than just follow as it is clearly stated most just follow "big brother". Thank you for your reply. Have a great day.
Abba has really put tasels on my heart few months ago, finally couple of months ago a made them and started wearing. My advice would be to just follow the Holy Spirit as he will lead you in the right direction. In Yahshua's name may Yah bless you abundantly.
@MTOI But if the adult woman doesn’t have a male headship; father - deceased, nor a husband, and is single~ What then? If someone could help me with this please and thank you.
Messianic Torah Observant Israel Thank you for your response! If I may ask another question? If I consider MTOI my anointed and appointed teacher, (which I do 🙏🏼) is this acceptable over the internet? There isn’t a Rabbi close to me in proximity and I watch y’all every week throughout the week. I’ve done this for a year+. I’m nowhere close to finishing all the teachings but I am whittling the older lessons down every week. Some, most, I’ve needed to re-watch.
@@mtoi 😐 I need a covering then. I am going to be heading to Chattanooga next month. I am looking forward to fellowshipping with you guys. Can I discuss this topic with Steve at that time? I don't understand it.
@@sedsworld1672 If you consider Rabbi Steve your teacher and would like him to be your covering.. you would have to call and speak to him to find out what the details of what that means and what the expectations are. And then take it from there! 423-250-3020
Shalom Steve just a comment for a former NYC/ Garment Center Textile person , this is not a correction but to stand on your shoulder's, I have done some research, do you know they had to use virgin wool , and you know how they get virgin wool , don't you? from ugly sheep , lol : ) just a silly old textile humor
They say that because if you read the commandment it says to "make". 38 “Speak to the children of Yisra’ĕl, and you shall say to them to make tzitziyot 1 on the corners of their garments throughout their generations, and to put a blue cord in the tzitzit 1 of the corners. 39 “And it shall be to you for a tzitzit, and you shall see it, and shall remember all the commands of יהוה and shall do them, and not search after your own heart and your own eyes after which you went whoring, 40 so that you remember, and shall do all My commands, and be set-apart unto your Elohim. This is were the word make comes from. H6213 Original: עשׂה Transliteration: ‛âśâh Phonetic: aw-saw' BDB Definition: to do, fashion, accomplish, make (Qal) to do, work, make, produce to do to work to deal (with) to act, act with effect, effect to make to make to produce to prepare to make (an offering) to attend to, put in order to observe, celebrate to acquire (property) to appoint, ordain, institute to bring about to use to spend, pass (Niphal) to be done to be made to be produced to be offered to be observed to be used (Pual) to be made (Piel) to press, squeeze Origin: a primitive root TWOT entry: 1708,1709 Part(s) of speech: Verb Strong's Definition: A primitive root; to do or make, in the broadest sense and widest application: - accomplish, advance, appoint, apt, be at, become, bear, bestow, bring forth, bruise, be busy, X certainly, have the charge of, commit, deal (with), deck, + displease, do, (ready) dress (-ed), (put in) execute (-ion), exercise, fashion, + feast, [fight-] ing man, + finish, fit, fly, follow, fulfil, furnish, gather, get, go about, govern, grant, great, + hinder, hold ([a feast]), X indeed, + be industrious, + journey, keep, labour, maintain, make, be meet, observe, be occupied, offer, + officer, pare, bring (come) to pass, perform, practise, prepare, procure, provide, put, requite, X sacrifice, serve, set, shew, X sin, spend, X surely, take, X thoroughly, trim, X very, + vex, be [warr-] ior, work (-man), yield, use. So that is why people say you are to make them yourself.
yep I have to disagree on Steve's view of how to make the tzitzioyt. YAH leaves that open for us to choose how, just as HE does w/ the Shabbat traditions and the Moedim traditions.
Thank you for addressing this. I am not arguing, just asking for clarification. I know you addressed the "ben" being "sons" in this case (tzitzit), but is it not the same wording that is used in Leviticus 11 concerning the dietary laws? If so, I don't understand how a husband or father could be a woman's covering, otherwise women wouldn't have to follow Leviticus 11. I am open to correction. :) Again, thank you.
Numbers 15:38
"Speak דַּבֵּ֞ר
(dab·ber) 1696: to speak a prim. root
to the sons בְּנֵ֤י
(be·nei) 1121: son a prim. root
of Israel, יִשְׂרָאֵל֙
(yis·ra·'el) 3478: "God strives,"
Numbers 11:2
Speak דַּבְּר֛וּ
(dab·be·ru) 1696: to speak a prim. root
to the sons בְּנֵ֥י
(be·nei) 1121: son a prim. root
of Israel, יִשְׂרָאֵ֖ל
(yis·ra·'el) 3478: "God strives,"
Great question. As Rabbi Steve has explained it in this video, the men were responsible with leading their households as part of the Creator's design and so a covering does not imply a shifting of complete individual accountability and a proxy for one’s actions (“My husband is eating clean therefore I don’t have to...”), but rather a covering is responsible for making sure to do the actions based in Torah - which in this case of tzitziyot, is remembering all the commands of the Almighty and not going after our own eyes and heart.
@@mtoi I still don't understand the reasoning, but appreciate the reply nonetheless. Shalom!
Excellent point. You cant have it both ways. This generic term should include both sexes. This requires a proper answer from Steve.
it doesn't say you can't either...
Thank you.
I like the information on the colours
But the commandment says the children of..... are the ladies not included in that term? Just wondering.
Rabbi Steve briefly explains in this video that the women are included in that term in the sense of being covered by the men. (Think of how in many languages, a group of 1 man and 99 women is still described as a masculine term).
@@mtoi seems like a cop out because if it was just meant for males it could have been written "the sons" rather than "the children" seems with this commandment that rather than just follow as it is clearly stated most just follow "big brother". Thank you for your reply. Have a great day.
Abba has really put tasels on my heart few months ago, finally couple of months ago a made them and started wearing. My advice would be to just follow the Holy Spirit as he will lead you in the right direction. In Yahshua's name may Yah bless you abundantly.
Thank you
@MTOI But if the adult woman doesn’t have a male headship; father - deceased, nor a husband, and is single~ What then? If someone could help me with this please and thank you.
Its important for anyone not covered to make it priority to seek out a VETTED anointed appointed teacher/leadership to be their covering.
Messianic Torah Observant Israel Thank you for your response! If I may ask another question? If I consider MTOI my anointed and appointed teacher, (which I do 🙏🏼) is this acceptable over the internet? There isn’t a Rabbi close to me in proximity and I watch y’all every week throughout the week. I’ve done this for a year+. I’m nowhere close to finishing all the teachings but I am whittling the older lessons down every week. Some, most, I’ve needed to re-watch.
@@mtoi 😐
I need a covering then. I am going to be heading to Chattanooga next month. I am looking forward to fellowshipping with you guys. Can I discuss this topic with Steve at that time? I don't understand it.
@@sedsworld1672 If you consider Rabbi Steve your teacher and would like him to be your covering.. you would have to call and speak to him to find out what the details of what that means and what the expectations are. And then take it from there! 423-250-3020
@@peculiarpriscilla7777 Did you ever move down? And yes this is something you can speak to Rabbi about in person. :)
Shalom Steve just a comment for a former NYC/ Garment Center Textile person , this is not a correction but to stand on your shoulder's, I have done some research, do you know they had to use virgin wool , and you know how they get virgin wool , don't you? from ugly sheep , lol : ) just a silly old textile humor
Rabbi some people say we must "make" our own tzitzit to properly fulfill the commandment. What do you think?
You're definitely welcome to make your own, we have a tzitzit workshop here: th-cam.com/video/Wf8C9IRyEBg/w-d-xo.html
They say that because if you read the commandment it says to "make".
38 “Speak to the children of Yisra’ĕl, and you shall say to them to make tzitziyot 1 on the corners of their garments throughout their generations, and to put a blue cord in the tzitzit 1 of the corners.
39 “And it shall be to you for a tzitzit, and you shall see it, and shall remember all the commands of יהוה and shall do them, and not search after your own heart and your own eyes after which you went whoring,
40 so that you remember, and shall do all My commands, and be set-apart unto your Elohim.
This is were the word make comes from.
H6213
Original: עשׂה
Transliteration: ‛âśâh
Phonetic: aw-saw'
BDB Definition:
to do, fashion, accomplish, make
(Qal)
to do, work, make, produce
to do
to work
to deal (with)
to act, act with effect, effect
to make
to make
to produce
to prepare
to make (an offering)
to attend to, put in order
to observe, celebrate
to acquire (property)
to appoint, ordain, institute
to bring about
to use
to spend, pass
(Niphal)
to be done
to be made
to be produced
to be offered
to be observed
to be used
(Pual) to be made
(Piel) to press, squeeze
Origin: a primitive root
TWOT entry: 1708,1709
Part(s) of speech: Verb
Strong's Definition: A primitive root; to do or make, in the broadest sense and widest application: - accomplish, advance, appoint, apt, be at, become, bear, bestow, bring forth, bruise, be busy, X certainly, have the charge of, commit, deal (with), deck, + displease, do, (ready) dress (-ed), (put in) execute (-ion), exercise, fashion, + feast, [fight-] ing man, + finish, fit, fly, follow, fulfil, furnish, gather, get, go about, govern, grant, great, + hinder, hold ([a feast]), X indeed, + be industrious, + journey, keep, labour, maintain, make, be meet, observe, be occupied, offer, + officer, pare, bring (come) to pass, perform, practise, prepare, procure, provide, put, requite, X sacrifice, serve, set, shew, X sin, spend, X surely, take, X thoroughly, trim, X very, + vex, be [warr-] ior, work (-man), yield, use.
So that is why people say you are to make them yourself.
@@mtoiThank you for your reply.
Thanks for this teaching.
THANK YOU, FOR THE TEACHING
yep I have to disagree on Steve's view of how to make the tzitzioyt. YAH leaves that open for us to choose how, just as HE does w/ the Shabbat traditions and the Moedim traditions.
OH BOY LOL!
tzitzits are on the garment of a man not a garment of a woman
I like the information on the colours
I like the information on the colours