Hey guys so I listened, last 30 team video you guys said was a bit too rushed and I did that because I thought it was too long. I realized that was dumb lol so here we are, hope you enjoy and remember, hit me with what 30 team video you want to see next!!- Mike
I think I have an idea: All 30 Teams' player who wasted their potential on that team and became busts or Bad picks that became good/great when they left
I can’t blame Charlotte for trading Kobe, he literally said he wasn’t going to play and pretty sure his agent said he would’ve just played in Italy for a year
Mike didn't research this enough. Bucks didn't get fleeced when they traded Kareem they got a core of a team that went on to become a top 4 franchise of the 80's! Bucks didn't have a single losing season in the 80's.
@@Wallyworld30 I think Cavs' worst trade has gotta be the multiple first round picks for nothing which consequentially created the Stephien rule and the Cavs needed to pay the league for first round picks in the 80's
@@demonkingbadger6689 The difference is that the red sox didn’t have Red Auerbach, who saw and embraced the direction the game could go with black athletes.
@@tristanhackman9791 Red led the Celtics to have the first black player, first black head coach and first all black starting 5 and had a statue built in Boston for him. RIP Red Auerbach
For the record, it's not like we (the spurs) WANTED to trade Kawhi, but for some reason he got it in his head he didn't want to be here anymore *cough* uncle *cough* and demanded out. Toronto was the only team worth trading to and was willing to do a trade. Although not exactly a franchise altering trade, it was definitely not good for us.
Yeah the Kawhi trade was a bad return for the Spurs but it was the best they could do ... Unless you believe the rumors that LA would've given up Brandon Ingram and a couple of others for KL and the Spurs didn't pull the trigger bc they didn't want to improve the Lakers that much.
Hey Bradley, really appreciate this. I have been really working hard and you'll see the videos that are coming are great, trust me! And with Laced Up, ill miss it too but I have my own 2nd channel project coming soon and its not 2k related like last time, its NBA and College and HS and just basketball but in a different form!
That's a lot of history you were able to get through in this video. I still shake my head at some of the trades that EVERYONE knew were bad the second they made them. And as a Raps fan, the VC one still kills me to this day.
I cant believe, people thought rhe Nets got the better end of the Garnett-Pierce trade. I remember thinking at the time, they literally got a 1 year window, maybe 2 with voodoo. Those later picks will be great, if they dont keep retooling.
@@lk5388 Yeah, Joe Johnson (one of the most overrated/overpaid players ever) got a $100mil contract in Atlanta, and ruined basketball for fans there with his uninspiring (technically an Allstar, but by default) play. Iso Joe's style didn't mesh well with Pierce's then, and didn't a decade+ later when they played together on the Nets. Whereas Delk and Rogers (who Johnson was traded for) were excellent roleplayers and their immediate impact that season brought the Celtics within 2 games of the NBA Finals. The WORST Celtics trade was the next year. Kenny Anderson had come from being a perennial overpaid underachieving player on the Nets to a valuable roleplayer point guard for those fun ~2000-2003 Celtics teams led by Paul Pierce and Antoine Walker, and the fans loved his contributions. They traded Anderson for Vin Baker, an alcoholic (poor guy), who immediately crashed and burned, ruined the team's chemistry and playoff potential, and had Celtics front office make a series of panic trades that killed the franchise (and Pierce's prime) for 5+ years.
17:15 - to further this even more, somewhere there is also a parallel universe where the Pacers front office agreed to find a way to also bring in Anthony Davis (as was rumored). So possibly Kawaii, PG13, and AD on the same team.
With the IT trade, it goes a lot deeper than most think between the previous owners to the players and staff. Started with the Mike Malone firing which was beyond puzzling which led to the full neglect of IT because they actually didn’t want him in the first place but Malone, Cousins, and Rudy Gay did which is why all of them were removed from the team. Problem is the Kings missed out on many opportunities to build a proper team around Cousins. Missing out on players like Dame and CJ McCollum whom were players the Kings were actually gonna select until draft night and changed their minds at the last second. Another player who wanted to play for Sacramento which is highly surprising and here’s a hint, him and IT battled against each other in college and were in the same draft class. That’s right, Klay Thompson. Sacramento unfortunately is prone to overlook on generational talent. Others misses like Steph Curry, Giannis, Kawhi, Kemba, Luka and soon to make this list I hope is trading Gary Trent jr for cash. And another big one, Seth Curry. And there’s a big possibility that the Haliburton/Sabonis trade might not work in the Kings favor unless De’Aaron Fox gets back in all-star form like he was in the 20-21 season. I’m starting to think this franchise is severely curse because ain’t no way you can keep making these types of mistakes unless you’re under some form of influence.
In fairness to the Pacers I don't think Kawhi would've been anywhere near as good as he is without going to the Spurs who had all those HoFs on the team already
"OKC would have had 3 MVPs." Except all three of Harden, KD, and Russ needed to be on their own to win MVP. Russ won his first year without KD (or any other star next to him). Harden won as the main star of his own team. KD won while Russ was injured during most of the season. If they all stayed together it would have been more of a Spurs situation. KD as the Tim Duncan winning most of the accolades while Russ and Harden would be the Parker and Ginobli players picking up the scraps.
As a Magic fan, I still remember waking up (living in Netherlands, Europe) and seeing the trade announcement Oladipo for Ibaka, when Vouch was already here and Bismack got signed couple days earlier. I also still have the Oladipo jersey. I Just turned off my phone and rolled back into bed
@@MikeKorzemba Yes, I'm really hoping they will keep developing them well. Because Lets be honest, the Magic aren't a hot spot for star free agents. So it Will all come down to developing the young guns like Franz, Cole Anthony, Jalen and some other talents with a bit more experience under their belt already. Bulls have a great team now. Enjoy it for as long as you can! And keep up the good work! Its nice to get some great insights on NBA topics in Europe
As a Spurs fan, yeah we probably could have gotten some younger talent instead of Derozan for Kawhi or something, but I don’t think it turned it as badly as it’s portrayed here. Kawhi’s trade value wasn’t super high because it was clear he wanted out. Getting Derozan was in no way bad, but possibly underwhelming. However we also got Jakob Poeltl and the pick that became Keldon Johnson, so that’s two very important pieces of our current young core. Lastly, Derozan’s impact on the Spurs was way bigger than just a first round exit. He really helped mentor the young guys and I truly believe his influence is a big reason for Dejounte Murray’s All-Star breakout season.
That just goes to show how Spurs are a really good management at seeing players' values. This video is about the worst trades for every franchise yet that trade is the one to get featured here, and that wasn't even Spurs' full undoing, Leonard wanted out so they had pressure and could've gotten way worse returns.
The Phx Suns worst trade was Shawn Marion for Shaquille O’Neal we went from championship chasing to eating donuts and walking up the court. He was old and fat and definitely didn’t fit the 6 second offense we were running
I was hoping for a "Vancouver" Grizzlies mention because their trades literally ruined the franchise and they left the city. You could probably start with the Grizzlies drafting Steve Francis (despite Francis saying he didn't want to play in Vancouver) and what the Grizzlies got in return for the trade to Houston. 1999 wasn't the greatest draft year, so its hard to say if drafting someone like Jason Terry would have made them any better. The Grizzlies 1st ever draft pick in "Big Country" Reeves is what ultimately did them in. They also pick Stromile Swift in the 2000 draft when they could have selected ... well 2000 was a terrible year, worst ever perhaps. Anyway you put it, no trade would have saved the Grizzlies from leaving Vancouver.
Thanks for mentioning the Vancouver Grizzlies. That Steve Francis pick was the final nail in the coffin. Stupid Stu Jackson drafting that guy despite him flat out saying not to pick him. Then they didn't even get anything good in return. I think Michael Dickerson was the best player the Grizzlies received but he wasn't a star that they needed. If I remember correctly too, the Suns wanted Big Country and the 97 pick for Steve Nash. Steve Nash being a BC native playing for the BC team could have done wonders for the fans. They would have a hometown hero to cheer for. Had that trade gone through, who knows what could have happened.
I would have to say that the Ron Harper trade to the Clippers for Danny Ferry and Reggie Williams was the worst trade that Cleveland did. They did make the conference finals in 1992 and had some great playoffs appearances but that trade pretty much ruined any chances of the Cavs actually winning the championship.
@@RedGarnett-n2p Not necessarily. They would've been a threat to contending teams and they were said to be the team of the 90s. If injuries didn't get in the way and had they kept Ron Harper, they would've been a threat in the east.
Yep, the Mavs had the deepest team in the NBA. And then ruined it with the Rondo trade, it sounded good on paper. But in Rondo's very first press conference he corrected a reporter asking why he chose Dallas by saying, 'First of all I was traded here. I didn't choose to be here.' The writing was on the wall.
Lets be clear about the Jazz "trade". Goodrich was signed in FA and at the time you had to pay compensation for signing a veteran free agent. At the time, the Jazz was much more concerned about surviving year to year in Utah and signing the biggest name they could was their solution.
EVERY 30 TEAM ONE HIT (SEASON) WONDER A player that did great for their team for 1 season then fizzled out.....GREAT VIDEO AND KEEP UP THE HARD WORK BRO. WE SUPPORT YOU ALL THE WAY FROM NEW YORK
This goes to show that even if you think your team has the worst luck, there's always someone worse Y'know unless your the Hawks, Thunder, or Hornets in which case you're screwed
Shaq was headed towards a decline when the Lakers traded him to the Heat anyways. Yeah they could've gotten more for him, I can get behind that but I am a little surprised that that trade was mentioned at all because Shaq only had one more year left in his prime at the time.
A championship year is a big loss to me. And even if Shaq was on the decline, kobe was only getting better and better. That tandem could’ve easily gotten 2 more rings imo.
Yeah no, the worst Indiana Pacers trade was sending their 1984 draft pick for Tom Owens. Ended up being the 2nd overall pick and likely would have been Michael Jordan.
That was fantastic, I stuck through it all haha! Your attention to detail is immaculate! I miss your podcast with Flight and Coop, love all your guys content! I didn’t know all of that man! I definitely am not shocked by the Knicks, that stuff I knew haha! The start with Atlanta or then St. Louis was shocking, to think Petit and Russell could’ve been a duo that won the 11 championships together and that would be the legendary franchise instead of Boston, I’m sure if it were in Atlanta at that point it would’ve been different, probably a more welcoming environment, the Showtime Lakers possibly not being a thing either, also shocking, Jazz really biffed that one haha! Maybe Malone and Stockton could’ve had rings lol, Bulls could have been champs with Rose and Aldridge, the list goes on, I’m in awe, thanks again for putting this out there man! Really interesting stuff!
Great video as always Mike! I would like to disagree on the worst Timberwolves trade. I would say the Jimmy Butler trade was the worst since we traded Zach Lavine (fresh off back to back dunk contest wins and a torn ACL), Kris Dunn and Lauri Markkanen. Butler only stayed one season and then we only got dario saric and robert covington. But, The Big Ticket one hurt.
Great vid as always Mike. Keep it up! As a Raptors fan I wonder after all these yrs what would of happened had Vince pulled a Ben Simmons and just decided to sit out the season instead 🤷♂️
One of my best friends, Matt Hagan’s grandfather was Cliff Hagan. Honestly, it’s one of the most insane things considering the dude is only 6’0 but his granddads skills back then have him as a solidified legend. Shoutout Cliff
Your list of franchise ruining trades is pretty good overall. The only one I don’t think should be on this list is the Kawhi trade to Toronto. Kawhi’s camp had made it clear to the Spurs that he was not going to play for them and wanted to go to the Lakers at the time. Knowing this information, most franchises were unwilling to give up much for Kawhi except for Toronto. Give credit to the Spurs organization for not trading him to the Lakers for scraps and at least getting a star and good role players in return for an unhappy Kawhi that would have otherwise left the Spurs via free agency.
Sad fact about the Bucks trade: Robert Traylor died before Dirk retired 30:32 Also, the real What If? is "What if the Thunder never traded Jeff Green for Kendrick Perkins?". I personally think that a lineup of Westbrook, Harden, Durant, Green, and Ibaka (with either Durant or Green as a small-ball 4) could have been unstoppable for about five years (four with all five and one without Green because of his 2012 heart surgery).
The Pau Gasol trade was universally a great trade for both teams, the Grizzlies could’ve done nothing with Bynum the same way they did nothing with Pau, and then they got Marc Gasol who peaked at the perfect time. So yeah sure at the time it was bad, but it was literally a great move.
As well the timeline for Marc was a bit off. He was the 48th pick in the draft but he was still commited to Spain before he could join the NBA. During that time he had a breakout season where he won Spanish league MVP which made him more than a lucky late pick but instead one of the more attractive prospects coming out of Europe.
As a Dallas Maverick fan, i would argue the worst trade was sending Mark Aguirre to Detroit for Adrian Dantley. The previous year the Mavs went to the conference finals and almost beat Magic Johnsons Lakers and after the trade the Mavs were in rebuilding hell until the Mavs acquired Dirk.
Atlanta: "The draft pick they traded became Bill Russell" Boston: "They traded a future 7-time all-star for role players halfway through his rookie season" Brooklyn: "They were one of the worst teams for 3 years and didn't have any 1st round picks" Charlotte: "They didn't keep Kobe Bryant" Chicago: "They traded a 7-time all-star for a career role players ON DRAFT DAY" Cleveland: "LeBron said that the trade was the beginning of the end for everything" Dallas: "The Mavs' coach gave up on Rondo after game 2 of round 1" Denver: "The Jazz's core was built by the Nuggets" Detroit: "They traded away their franchise player" GS: "Larry Bird can thank the Warriors for the Celtics' Big 3" Houston: "They traded a future hall-of-famer for a guy who only played 1 year with them" Indiana: "They could've had Kawhi and PG for their whole careers" Clippers: "They traded the eventual 1st overall pick to save money" Lakers: "They traded for a 38-year-old that literally had to work out his back during games" Memphis: "They helped the Lakers win 2 championships" Miami: "They only took Napier because of LeBron, then he left immediately" Milwaukee: "They got one of the heaviest players for Dirk freaking Nowitzki" Minnesota: "They traded a DPOY and MVP for a guy who never made an all-star team" New Orleans: "They traded a MVP runner-up for a walking injury" New York: "They sold their entire future for a bad fat guy" Oklahoma City: "They chose Ibaka over freaking Harden" Orlando: "They tried to pair 3 bigs together and traded away 2 solid picks" Philly: "They passed on Tatum for a guy who literally lost the ability to shoot" Phoenix: "They traded a locker room cancer who became for an even worse one" Portland: "They immediately traded a 3-time MVP for basically nothing" Sacramento: "They overlooked their own player after 3 years" San Antonio: "DeMar made the Spurs worse and they should've gotten a better player" Toronto: "They let VC tank his trade value and got nothing valuable for the most experienced player ever" Utah: "They traded Magic Johnson for a guy who retired 2 years later" Washington: "They traded 2 valuable picks for a guy they immediately traded for a 36-year-old"
Raptors are always gonna be at a deficit when it comes to trades because being in Canada presents a whole sets of challenges that playing for American cities don't have to go through. The fact that they won a Chip in 2019 meant just about everything has to go their way to make it possible.
It's frustrating that, to this day, the Spurs' DeRozan trade is complained as not being 1:1. Of course it wasn't but out of timing and necessity. The Spurs didn't have much of a choice and DeRozan was the highest profile player they were gonna get under those peculiar circumstances at that time. Leonard was not going to play anymore if he wasn't traded, the Spurs would have lost him for nothing if he wasn't traded that offseason prior to his last contract year, and teams were weary of his health and the drama around him. And no- the trade deadline wasn't an option as other teams would have waited to the last second during those last months of his contract and lowball talent offerings to get Leonard. It so happened that previous offseason the Raptors were going all in with a championship run and they had an All-Star to trade. It was hardly a case of San Antonio thinking DeMar was Leonard. They did they best they could with the offers they got at a time when they had to move Leonard for something or lose him for nothing. And while DeRozan may not have been the defender Leonard was there is no question that his offensive game was good. More importantly, unlike Leonard, he was a consummate professional and Spur representative while he was there even as he had been not happy with being traded.
Amazing video! You're the man, Mike. Seriously. Also, your video made me, a Pistons fan, think about just how good Chauncey was. Not only was there that huge drop-off after he left, but if you look at his numbers... wow. Most of his career, he averaged over 40% from three. And his career average is 41% from three. And he wasn't coming off of screens nor getting help to do it. If his career had started 10 years later, then his ppg would be so much higher, because the coaches would have him shoot more. But that's not all... even on lower ppg, that 40% three point shooting must have been doing wonders for the Pistons offensive spacing. And we were a horrible offensive team. Horrible. Imagine how much worse they would have been without 40% three point shooting from Chauncey? And also, Chauncey snagged around 6+ assists per game on a reallly stagnant and horrible offense. And there were times when the offense was dead, and that's when Chauncey would just start trying to re-ignite the offense on his own. He was so critical in making one of the worst offenses I've ever seen merely look "pretty bad." And that might sound like an only minor achievement... but we were HORRIBLE on offense! Basically, without Chancey's space-providing threes and ability to set-up teammates, the Pistons might have had troubles even making the playoffs. The offense would have been just so bad, that the stellar defense wouldn't have been enough to save them. And then, the lack of offensive production from guys like Ben Wallace and Tayshaun Prince would have been seen as a liability. The team would have never even gone after Rasheed Wallace. And Dumars would have had to blow up the team. Big Ben and Prince would not be as highly regarded nor maybe even well known. Etc. On the flip side, the Pistons were good before Sheed arrived. They were also good after Big Ben left. Basketball is a team game, so none of this is as simple as I'm making it out to be... but Chauncey may have been the biggest key to Pistons success. And in more recent eras, his offensive numbers would be unreal. His three point shooting, plus his driving and passing would net him absurdly good numbers today. I think Billups might actually be an all-out superstar. An all-time great. But right now, he's sadly just viewed as "very good."
And I'm in the middle of watching the video right now. Not done yet. But GREAT point about Middleton. That was disastrous. However, I gotta say that Stan Van Gundy would have just traded him off anyway! Lol, that's a joke :) With Middleton, Drummond would have had the spacing he needed in his prime. We could have gone deeper in the playoffs. So, yeah, that's a bummer. Drummond was in a bad situation in his prime years. We'll never know what he could have been. Maybe he would have never became a superstar... but maybe he would have! We'll never know!
Amazing line regarding Buffalo, when you said "That was just one of the many bad decisions they made on their way to becoming the Los Angeles Clippers..." LOL!
Trading Billups for Iverson completely destroyed the dominant 2000’s Pistons. Chauncey balled out for the Nuggets as evidenced by his improved stats and wins.
For the Pistons: I think even if Middleton got good with Detroit, he was gonna be traded anyways as part of a rebuild because he was on the Pistons during one of the darkest times of the franchise, where rebuilding was happening every year with little to no results, so more than likely he was gonna eventually get traded
I feel like the Carmelo Nuggets-Knicks trade is one of the worst trades Nuggets have made, they would’ve won that chip in 09 if it wasn’t for Kobe. Melo probably just needed that one second star (besides Billups) But they ended up with Jokic in a few years which isn’t so bad
For the Pacers, that's not the worst trade, we traded the 1984 first round pick for Tom Owens, a journeyman center. That FRP became #2 overall, we traded away our chance at Michael Jordan for a center who didn't stay for more than a year.
My blood boils when i remember that Ibaka to Orlando trade. Oladipo was rising to become Orlando's version of D-Wade and they sent him and Sabonis for Ibaka with an expiring contract!!!
While the Harden deal was pretty bad I don't think it was the worst pick in Thunder/Sonics history because back in Seattle the Sonics had the 5th pick in the 1987 draft but traded it to the bulls for the 8th pick Olden Polynice who turned into a backup center. The 5th pick turned into Scottie Pippen
Mike, I LOVE your videos! Since you are seeking ideas for all 30 teams, I’d love you take on “The Best and Worst Player for Each Franchise,” per your opinion / research. I hope to see this!
I honestly believe a Chicago team that get this - Still traded for Carlos Boozer - Still had Joakim Noah - Still got Luol Deng - And got everyone else on that off the bench That Bulls is most definitely going to the Finals against Dallas quite possibly winning.
I’m still baffled how many people thought the nets were gonna win the finals when they made that trade. Pierce and Garnett were way past their prime in a Lebron led east. Still bothers me to this day
As a Jazz fan, the fact that having Magic Johnson, John Stockton, Dominique Wilkins, and Karl Malone all at the same time was a possibility will never not be painful
Dont know if 2 pgs of that caliber could work together, but even adding Wilkins would have been crazy (and upgrading to Magic over Stockton even moreso.)
For Detroit, the Billups trade was WAY WORSE than the Middleton trade. Billups was the cornerstone of that Pistons lineup and should have been the last guy to get traded...especially for a washed AI. It ended their playoff run, and they haven't won a playoff game since 2009. Middleton was a relative nobody on a bad team, that wasn't really on anyone's radar when he got traded to the Bucks.
Lamar Odom was also in trade talks to get Kobe another star, lets not forget that and the fact that the Lakers didn't give him up either, that's worth noting too. But yes as mentioned in the video how they got Marc Gasol in the trade, it could've been worse for the Grizzlies if not for that.
I would say the trade for Gerald Wallace that gave Damian Lillard to the Blazers was the Nets worst trade. Because at least they got KG and Pierce out of the deal you mentioned.
Hey guys so I listened, last 30 team video you guys said was a bit too rushed and I did that because I thought it was too long. I realized that was dumb lol so here we are, hope you enjoy and remember, hit me with what 30 team video you want to see next!!- Mike
I think I have an idea: All 30 Teams' player who wasted their potential on that team and became busts or Bad picks that became good/great when they left
Greatest shot from each team unless u already did that
I appreciate the dedication Mike. A whole 40 Minute video with what I would assume is a lot of research involved. Huge W
Best playoff series win for each team?
Thanks mike, can tell this took tons of effort and research to make.
40 min video, respect the research and dedication you put into these vids 💯
Appreciate the appreciation you my man lol, for real tho!
Its a page on wikipedia that he read off. He read every trade word for word
@@SnoopyGolf what’s the page
@@SnoopyGolf what's the page?
@@SnoopyGolf what's the page????
I can’t blame Charlotte for trading Kobe, he literally said he wasn’t going to play and pretty sure his agent said he would’ve just played in Italy for a year
Mike didn't research this enough. Bucks didn't get fleeced when they traded Kareem they got a core of a team that went on to become a top 4 franchise of the 80's! Bucks didn't have a single losing season in the 80's.
@@Wallyworld30 the Nowitzki trade was the Bucks worst trade. The Kareem trade he just explained how it was a demanded trade
@@Wallyworld30 I think Cavs' worst trade has gotta be the multiple first round picks for nothing which consequentially created the Stephien rule and the Cavs needed to pay the league for first round picks in the 80's
Yea as an NC native, we already knew Kobe wasn't going to play for us..
I hate when players do that, they should just appreciate that someone drafted them.
Man, considering how badly Bill was treated in Boston during the civil rights era, I cant imagine how much worse he wouldve been treated in St. Louis
Yea the hawks had to make that move
well Bill said himself if he had to play in St Louis he would have just left the NBA
The SL Cardinals was one of the last NL teams to integrate, if i remember.
Of course on the other they still beat the Red Sox to integration.
@@demonkingbadger6689 The difference is that the red sox didn’t have Red Auerbach, who saw and embraced the direction the game could go with black athletes.
@@tristanhackman9791 Red led the Celtics to have the first black player, first black head coach and first all black starting 5 and had a statue built in Boston for him. RIP Red Auerbach
For the record, it's not like we (the spurs) WANTED to trade Kawhi, but for some reason he got it in his head he didn't want to be here anymore *cough* uncle *cough* and demanded out. Toronto was the only team worth trading to and was willing to do a trade. Although not exactly a franchise altering trade, it was definitely not good for us.
Plus I think he wouldn't have turned into what he became on the Pacers.
For real, his take on it was completely wrong. Kl was a depreciating asset. We’re lucky we got anything.
Kawhi pulled a Ben Simmons
Yeah the Kawhi trade was a bad return for the Spurs but it was the best they could do ... Unless you believe the rumors that LA would've given up Brandon Ingram and a couple of others for KL and the Spurs didn't pull the trigger bc they didn't want to improve the Lakers that much.
Kawhi “got it in his head” when the Spurs tried to force him to play back from injury, that pissed him off and had nothing to do with his uncle.
You know Mike has used his time really effectively during his break glad hes back and giving top quality content, gonna miss laced up alot
Hey Bradley, really appreciate this. I have been really working hard and you'll see the videos that are coming are great, trust me! And with Laced Up, ill miss it too but I have my own 2nd channel project coming soon and its not 2k related like last time, its NBA and College and HS and just basketball but in a different form!
Just because Russell would have gone to the Hawks doesn't mean the Hawks would have won those championships.
I appreciate the amount of work you put into this video. Thanks Mike.
Thanks Jose I appreciate you watching 🙏
@@MikeKorzemba I aprectie you
That's a lot of history you were able to get through in this video. I still shake my head at some of the trades that EVERYONE knew were bad the second they made them. And as a Raps fan, the VC one still kills me to this day.
I cant believe, people thought rhe Nets got the better end of the Garnett-Pierce trade. I remember thinking at the time, they literally got a 1 year window, maybe 2 with voodoo. Those later picks will be great, if they dont keep retooling.
Imagine that 2008 Celtics team if the trades never happened
PG - Billups
SG - Allen
SF - Johnson
PF - Pierce
C - Garnett
6th Man - Rondo
Allen, Garnett, Rondo, never go there if it did
How they gonna pay for that roster and keep it under the cap?
@@lk5388 Yeah, Joe Johnson (one of the most overrated/overpaid players ever) got a $100mil contract in Atlanta, and ruined basketball for fans there with his uninspiring (technically an Allstar, but by default) play. Iso Joe's style didn't mesh well with Pierce's then, and didn't a decade+ later when they played together on the Nets. Whereas Delk and Rogers (who Johnson was traded for) were excellent roleplayers and their immediate impact that season brought the Celtics within 2 games of the NBA Finals.
The WORST Celtics trade was the next year. Kenny Anderson had come from being a perennial overpaid underachieving player on the Nets to a valuable roleplayer point guard for those fun ~2000-2003 Celtics teams led by Paul Pierce and Antoine Walker, and the fans loved his contributions. They traded Anderson for Vin Baker, an alcoholic (poor guy), who immediately crashed and burned, ruined the team's chemistry and playoff potential, and had Celtics front office make a series of panic trades that killed the franchise (and Pierce's prime) for 5+ years.
I think Boston also passed up on drafting Tracy McGrady.
17:15 - to further this even more, somewhere there is also a parallel universe where the Pacers front office agreed to find a way to also bring in Anthony Davis (as was rumored). So possibly Kawaii, PG13, and AD on the same team.
That injury list would be turnstile.
I knew my Blazers passed on MJ and KD, but thanks for bringing to light the fact we passed on Moses Malone as well 😂
Blazers just has some of the WORST OF LUCK EVER
Wow this is the longest video I have seen mike post
It is my longest video ever
Love the effort put into these videos pure quality!
4:52 "while the nets are obviously fine now with Keven Durant as their star"
This aged well
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This was amazing mike! I was waiting for detroit to confirm you knew, but man, the research that went into this must’ve been strenuous af! Good job
Thank you Mike for making my day and other peoples day with Days of research and editing. I appreciate your work and I will continue to support you
With the IT trade, it goes a lot deeper than most think between the previous owners to the players and staff. Started with the Mike Malone firing which was beyond puzzling which led to the full neglect of IT because they actually didn’t want him in the first place but Malone, Cousins, and Rudy Gay did which is why all of them were removed from the team. Problem is the Kings missed out on many opportunities to build a proper team around Cousins. Missing out on players like Dame and CJ McCollum whom were players the Kings were actually gonna select until draft night and changed their minds at the last second. Another player who wanted to play for Sacramento which is highly surprising and here’s a hint, him and IT battled against each other in college and were in the same draft class. That’s right, Klay Thompson. Sacramento unfortunately is prone to overlook on generational talent. Others misses like Steph Curry, Giannis, Kawhi, Kemba, Luka and soon to make this list I hope is trading Gary Trent jr for cash. And another big one, Seth Curry. And there’s a big possibility that the Haliburton/Sabonis trade might not work in the Kings favor unless De’Aaron Fox gets back in all-star form like he was in the 20-21 season. I’m starting to think this franchise is severely curse because ain’t no way you can keep making these types of mistakes unless you’re under some form of influence.
In fairness to the Pacers I don't think Kawhi would've been anywhere near as good as he is without going to the Spurs who had all those HoFs on the team already
"OKC would have had 3 MVPs."
Except all three of Harden, KD, and Russ needed to be on their own to win MVP. Russ won his first year without KD (or any other star next to him). Harden won as the main star of his own team. KD won while Russ was injured during most of the season. If they all stayed together it would have been more of a Spurs situation. KD as the Tim Duncan winning most of the accolades while Russ and Harden would be the Parker and Ginobli players picking up the scraps.
Its very debatable since harden was just growing as a player and since there finals debut they were just slammed with injuries
Don’t forget Minnesota traded Ray Allen when they drafted him, meaning two out of Boston’s big three coulda been in Minnesota.. :(
The kobe deal was a case of the hornets not having any choice cuz kobe didnt even want to play for them thats why he got traded
Awesome work Mike, I haven’t even watched it yet
Edit: finished the video it was great. Maybe do an all 30 teams biggest what-ifs
Thanks for watching Andrew thats awesome that you watched the whole thing!! That is definitely a great idea!
I always thought that Kobe demanded that trade from the Hornets.
He did
He did, he said from beginning he wasn't gonna play in Charlotte to begin with
As a Magic fan, I still remember waking up (living in Netherlands, Europe) and seeing the trade announcement Oladipo for Ibaka, when Vouch was already here and Bismack got signed couple days earlier. I also still have the Oladipo jersey. I Just turned off my phone and rolled back into bed
Ugh I feel for you my man. Those moments just suck but the Magic do have some great young pieces now at least!
@@MikeKorzemba Yes, I'm really hoping they will keep developing them well. Because Lets be honest, the Magic aren't a hot spot for star free agents. So it Will all come down to developing the young guns like Franz, Cole Anthony, Jalen and some other talents with a bit more experience under their belt already.
Bulls have a great team now. Enjoy it for as long as you can! And keep up the good work! Its nice to get some great insights on NBA topics in Europe
So much pain. I can remember that moment too
Me seeing the Kings draft Bagley and launching my phone at the wall all the way over in Dublin
As a Spurs fan, yeah we probably could have gotten some younger talent instead of Derozan for Kawhi or something, but I don’t think it turned it as badly as it’s portrayed here. Kawhi’s trade value wasn’t super high because it was clear he wanted out. Getting Derozan was in no way bad, but possibly underwhelming. However we also got Jakob Poeltl and the pick that became Keldon Johnson, so that’s two very important pieces of our current young core.
Lastly, Derozan’s impact on the Spurs was way bigger than just a first round exit. He really helped mentor the young guys and I truly believe his influence is a big reason for Dejounte Murray’s All-Star breakout season.
Plus two 1stRd picks coming up.
That just goes to show how Spurs are a really good management at seeing players' values. This video is about the worst trades for every franchise yet that trade is the one to get featured here, and that wasn't even Spurs' full undoing, Leonard wanted out so they had pressure and could've gotten way worse returns.
The Phx Suns worst trade was Shawn Marion for Shaquille O’Neal we went from championship chasing to eating donuts and walking up the court. He was old and fat and definitely didn’t fit the 6 second offense we were running
Marion is a very underrated player. No way my Mavs win in 2011 without him.
This video is an epic tale of terrible trades. Great job Mike. Much respect for the hard work.
Thanks Mario lmao I love how you put it, epic tale of terrible trades 😂
I was hoping for a "Vancouver" Grizzlies mention because their trades literally ruined the franchise and they left the city. You could probably start with the Grizzlies drafting Steve Francis (despite Francis saying he didn't want to play in Vancouver) and what the Grizzlies got in return for the trade to Houston. 1999 wasn't the greatest draft year, so its hard to say if drafting someone like Jason Terry would have made them any better. The Grizzlies 1st ever draft pick in "Big Country" Reeves is what ultimately did them in. They also pick Stromile Swift in the 2000 draft when they could have selected ... well 2000 was a terrible year, worst ever perhaps. Anyway you put it, no trade would have saved the Grizzlies from leaving Vancouver.
Thanks for mentioning the Vancouver Grizzlies. That Steve Francis pick was the final nail in the coffin. Stupid Stu Jackson drafting that guy despite him flat out saying not to pick him. Then they didn't even get anything good in return. I think Michael Dickerson was the best player the Grizzlies received but he wasn't a star that they needed. If I remember correctly too, the Suns wanted Big Country and the 97 pick for Steve Nash. Steve Nash being a BC native playing for the BC team could have done wonders for the fans. They would have a hometown hero to cheer for. Had that trade gone through, who knows what could have happened.
Yep, also since they got Marc Gasol in the Pau trade, how bad is that trade really?
@@khaitranngoc4176 Agreed. That was what I was going to say. The author acted like Marc Gasol was a nobody.
They also declined a trade where they would get Steve Nash if they gave up “Big Country” Reeves
@@kuylr legit made no sense🤦♂️
I would have to say that the Ron Harper trade to the Clippers for Danny Ferry and Reggie Williams was the worst trade that Cleveland did. They did make the conference finals in 1992 and had some great playoffs appearances but that trade pretty much ruined any chances of the Cavs actually winning the championship.
That was definitely on my list when making this video as a potential trade! I went a different way but I definitely see your point
@@MikeKorzemba The Cavs even threw in 2 1st round picks and a 2nd round for Ferry. One of the 1st rounders Loy Vaught had a decent career.
You actually think they was going to beat the bulls if they had Ron Harper😂😂😂
@@RedGarnett-n2p Not necessarily. They would've been a threat to contending teams and they were said to be the team of the 90s. If injuries didn't get in the way and had they kept Ron Harper, they would've been a threat in the east.
@@CrestlineIceberg they were threat in the East for one or two years
Yep, the Mavs had the deepest team in the NBA. And then ruined it with the Rondo trade, it sounded good on paper. But in Rondo's very first press conference he corrected a reporter asking why he chose Dallas by saying, 'First of all I was traded here. I didn't choose to be here.' The writing was on the wall.
Rondo didn't want to be in Dallas, he wanted to stay in Boston..
Lets be clear about the Jazz "trade". Goodrich was signed in FA and at the time you had to pay compensation for signing a veteran free agent. At the time, the Jazz was much more concerned about surviving year to year in Utah and signing the biggest name they could was their solution.
They were still in New Orleans when they signed Goodrich.
EVERY 30 TEAM ONE HIT (SEASON) WONDER
A player that did great for their team for 1 season then fizzled out.....GREAT VIDEO AND KEEP UP THE HARD WORK BRO. WE SUPPORT YOU ALL THE WAY FROM NEW YORK
Best trades for all 30 teams, best picks, and best position of all time (pg, sg, sf, pf, c) for each team
This goes to show that even if you think your team has the worst luck, there's always someone worse
Y'know unless your the Hawks, Thunder, or Hornets in which case you're screwed
Me, when the Mavs got Rondo: 😃
Me, after Rondo "quit" on the Mavs in the postseason: 🤬
Rondo sucks. Thank goodness for that 2011 season. I’m still living on that high.
I usually don't stick around for long videos, but damn, your videos are so good time flew by. Good job man! 👍
Shaq was headed towards a decline when the Lakers traded him to the Heat anyways. Yeah they could've gotten more for him, I can get behind that but I am a little surprised that that trade was mentioned at all because Shaq only had one more year left in his prime at the time.
A championship year is a big loss to me. And even if Shaq was on the decline, kobe was only getting better and better. That tandem could’ve easily gotten 2 more rings imo.
@@bagoftrix I think so too but hey Kobe got 2 more with Pau Gasol instead.
A championship year being a big loss though, short term maybe so but the Lakers ended up on the better end of the stick in the long run.
Dude Love your vids. Would love to see and best and worst draft picks for all 30 teams video.
I'm loving this 30 team stuff. I know it takes much more effort but I promise it shows.
Quality video! Well done 🔥
Yeah no, the worst Indiana Pacers trade was sending their 1984 draft pick for Tom Owens. Ended up being the 2nd overall pick and likely would have been Michael Jordan.
Or even Charles Barkley. Imagine a Reggie Miller, Barkley combo.
That was fantastic, I stuck through it all haha! Your attention to detail is immaculate! I miss your podcast with Flight and Coop, love all your guys content! I didn’t know all of that man! I definitely am not shocked by the Knicks, that stuff I knew haha! The start with Atlanta or then St. Louis was shocking, to think Petit and Russell could’ve been a duo that won the 11 championships together and that would be the legendary franchise instead of Boston, I’m sure if it were in Atlanta at that point it would’ve been different, probably a more welcoming environment, the Showtime Lakers possibly not being a thing either, also shocking, Jazz really biffed that one haha! Maybe Malone and Stockton could’ve had rings lol, Bulls could have been champs with Rose and Aldridge, the list goes on, I’m in awe, thanks again for putting this out there man! Really interesting stuff!
Appreciate you for sticking through the whole thing Nick that is awesome to hear!! Glad you enjoyed it!
Great video as always Mike! I would like to disagree on the worst Timberwolves trade. I would say the Jimmy Butler trade was the worst since we traded Zach Lavine (fresh off back to back dunk contest wins and a torn ACL), Kris Dunn and Lauri Markkanen. Butler only stayed one season and then we only got dario saric and robert covington. But, The Big Ticket one hurt.
42 minutes? You put so much work in. Respect. I can't even focus on my schoolwork for more than 30 minutes. Keep up the work.
Great vid as always Mike. Keep it up! As a Raptors fan I wonder after all these yrs what would of happened had Vince pulled a Ben Simmons and just decided to sit out the season instead 🤷♂️
One of my best friends, Matt Hagan’s grandfather was Cliff Hagan. Honestly, it’s one of the most insane things considering the dude is only 6’0 but his granddads skills back then have him as a solidified legend. Shoutout Cliff
Your list of franchise ruining trades is pretty good overall. The only one I don’t think should be on this list is the Kawhi trade to Toronto. Kawhi’s camp had made it clear to the Spurs that he was not going to play for them and wanted to go to the Lakers at the time. Knowing this information, most franchises were unwilling to give up much for Kawhi except for Toronto. Give credit to the Spurs organization for not trading him to the Lakers for scraps and at least getting a star and good role players in return for an unhappy Kawhi that would have otherwise left the Spurs via free agency.
True.
Thank you. Funny how VC tanking his trade value was noted but not Kawhi.
Sad fact about the Bucks trade: Robert Traylor died before Dirk retired
30:32 Also, the real What If? is "What if the Thunder never traded Jeff Green for Kendrick Perkins?". I personally think that a lineup of Westbrook, Harden, Durant, Green, and Ibaka (with either Durant or Green as a small-ball 4) could have been unstoppable for about five years (four with all five and one without Green because of his 2012 heart surgery).
This video is gonna be a banger as usual.
My man!
Best in the business. Thanks for the hard work Mike!
Appreciate you Mezzy, thank you for watching!!
This is just amazing. We love it
I know this was a long hard video to make but thanks it was a great on I truly enjoyed it. Very well done.
Haven't watched the vid yet but its gonna be good
Damn good work. 👌🏾
Appreciate you my man!
The Pau Gasol trade was universally a great trade for both teams, the Grizzlies could’ve done nothing with Bynum the same way they did nothing with Pau, and then they got Marc Gasol who peaked at the perfect time. So yeah sure at the time it was bad, but it was literally a great move.
As well the timeline for Marc was a bit off. He was the 48th pick in the draft but he was still commited to Spain before he could join the NBA. During that time he had a breakout season where he won Spanish league MVP which made him more than a lucky late pick but instead one of the more attractive prospects coming out of Europe.
Zack Randolph did more for the Grizzlies than Pau ever did.
As a Dallas Maverick fan, i would argue the worst trade was sending Mark Aguirre to Detroit for Adrian Dantley. The previous year the Mavs went to the conference finals and almost beat Magic Johnsons Lakers and after the trade the Mavs were in rebuilding hell until the Mavs acquired Dirk.
….while Detroit won 2 championships with Aguirre
Nailed it
How about a "Biggest What If" for every team? I think it will be dope.
For starters:
Celtics / Len Bias
Portland / Greg Oden
Detroit / Grant Hill
@@broaddusmarines okc keeps James harden
Thanks, Mike! Love your videos!
Okc is really devastating to be an okc fan,
As an Okc fan as soon as I saw the title I knew I was gonna be depressed!
Atlanta: "The draft pick they traded became Bill Russell"
Boston: "They traded a future 7-time all-star for role players halfway through his rookie season"
Brooklyn: "They were one of the worst teams for 3 years and didn't have any 1st round picks"
Charlotte: "They didn't keep Kobe Bryant"
Chicago: "They traded a 7-time all-star for a career role players ON DRAFT DAY"
Cleveland: "LeBron said that the trade was the beginning of the end for everything"
Dallas: "The Mavs' coach gave up on Rondo after game 2 of round 1"
Denver: "The Jazz's core was built by the Nuggets"
Detroit: "They traded away their franchise player"
GS: "Larry Bird can thank the Warriors for the Celtics' Big 3"
Houston: "They traded a future hall-of-famer for a guy who only played 1 year with them"
Indiana: "They could've had Kawhi and PG for their whole careers"
Clippers: "They traded the eventual 1st overall pick to save money"
Lakers: "They traded for a 38-year-old that literally had to work out his back during games"
Memphis: "They helped the Lakers win 2 championships"
Miami: "They only took Napier because of LeBron, then he left immediately"
Milwaukee: "They got one of the heaviest players for Dirk freaking Nowitzki"
Minnesota: "They traded a DPOY and MVP for a guy who never made an all-star team"
New Orleans: "They traded a MVP runner-up for a walking injury"
New York: "They sold their entire future for a bad fat guy"
Oklahoma City: "They chose Ibaka over freaking Harden"
Orlando: "They tried to pair 3 bigs together and traded away 2 solid picks"
Philly: "They passed on Tatum for a guy who literally lost the ability to shoot"
Phoenix: "They traded a locker room cancer who became for an even worse one"
Portland: "They immediately traded a 3-time MVP for basically nothing"
Sacramento: "They overlooked their own player after 3 years"
San Antonio: "DeMar made the Spurs worse and they should've gotten a better player"
Toronto: "They let VC tank his trade value and got nothing valuable for the most experienced player ever"
Utah: "They traded Magic Johnson for a guy who retired 2 years later"
Washington: "They traded 2 valuable picks for a guy they immediately traded for a 36-year-old"
Y’all better drop a like for my boy mike 40 min banger
My MAN Jaren!!!!
Still here! Love your content! Some of the best around...
Let’s just take a minute to acknowledge that this video was 42 minutes… it’s like a documentary love the content Mike!
One of the best vids Mike has put out in a long time. Good stuff bro
Raptors are always gonna be at a deficit when it comes to trades because being in Canada presents a whole sets of challenges that playing for American cities don't have to go through. The fact that they won a Chip in 2019 meant just about everything has to go their way to make it possible.
It's frustrating that, to this day, the Spurs' DeRozan trade is complained as not being 1:1. Of course it wasn't but out of timing and necessity. The Spurs didn't have much of a choice and DeRozan was the highest profile player they were gonna get under those peculiar circumstances at that time.
Leonard was not going to play anymore if he wasn't traded, the Spurs would have lost him for nothing if he wasn't traded that offseason prior to his last contract year, and teams were weary of his health and the drama around him. And no- the trade deadline wasn't an option as other teams would have waited to the last second during those last months of his contract and lowball talent offerings to get Leonard.
It so happened that previous offseason the Raptors were going all in with a championship run and they had an All-Star to trade. It was hardly a case of San Antonio thinking DeMar was Leonard. They did they best they could with the offers they got at a time when they had to move Leonard for something or lose him for nothing. And while DeRozan may not have been the defender Leonard was there is no question that his offensive game was good. More importantly, unlike Leonard, he was a consummate professional and Spur representative while he was there even as he had been not happy with being traded.
What abt the cj trade in portland. That was a big L mane. Dame finna leave
Legendary vid bruh. 💪🏾
Amazing video! You're the man, Mike. Seriously. Also, your video made me, a Pistons fan, think about just how good Chauncey was. Not only was there that huge drop-off after he left, but if you look at his numbers... wow. Most of his career, he averaged over 40% from three. And his career average is 41% from three. And he wasn't coming off of screens nor getting help to do it. If his career had started 10 years later, then his ppg would be so much higher, because the coaches would have him shoot more. But that's not all... even on lower ppg, that 40% three point shooting must have been doing wonders for the Pistons offensive spacing. And we were a horrible offensive team. Horrible. Imagine how much worse they would have been without 40% three point shooting from Chauncey? And also, Chauncey snagged around 6+ assists per game on a reallly stagnant and horrible offense. And there were times when the offense was dead, and that's when Chauncey would just start trying to re-ignite the offense on his own. He was so critical in making one of the worst offenses I've ever seen merely look "pretty bad." And that might sound like an only minor achievement... but we were HORRIBLE on offense!
Basically, without Chancey's space-providing threes and ability to set-up teammates, the Pistons might have had troubles even making the playoffs. The offense would have been just so bad, that the stellar defense wouldn't have been enough to save them. And then, the lack of offensive production from guys like Ben Wallace and Tayshaun Prince would have been seen as a liability. The team would have never even gone after Rasheed Wallace. And Dumars would have had to blow up the team. Big Ben and Prince would not be as highly regarded nor maybe even well known. Etc.
On the flip side, the Pistons were good before Sheed arrived. They were also good after Big Ben left.
Basketball is a team game, so none of this is as simple as I'm making it out to be... but Chauncey may have been the biggest key to Pistons success. And in more recent eras, his offensive numbers would be unreal. His three point shooting, plus his driving and passing would net him absurdly good numbers today.
I think Billups might actually be an all-out superstar. An all-time great. But right now, he's sadly just viewed as "very good."
And I'm in the middle of watching the video right now. Not done yet. But GREAT point about Middleton. That was disastrous. However, I gotta say that Stan Van Gundy would have just traded him off anyway! Lol, that's a joke :) With Middleton, Drummond would have had the spacing he needed in his prime. We could have gone deeper in the playoffs. So, yeah, that's a bummer. Drummond was in a bad situation in his prime years. We'll never know what he could have been. Maybe he would have never became a superstar... but maybe he would have! We'll never know!
Amazing line regarding Buffalo, when you said "That was just one of the many bad decisions they made on their way to becoming the Los Angeles Clippers..." LOL!
Best series by each 30 team example cavs 3-1 comeback
Series or full playoff run?
Could be either
Trading Billups for Iverson completely destroyed the dominant 2000’s Pistons. Chauncey balled out for the Nuggets as evidenced by his improved stats and wins.
For the Pistons: I think even if Middleton got good with Detroit, he was gonna be traded anyways as part of a rebuild because he was on the Pistons during one of the darkest times of the franchise, where rebuilding was happening every year with little to no results, so more than likely he was gonna eventually get traded
I feel like the Carmelo Nuggets-Knicks trade is one of the worst trades Nuggets have made, they would’ve won that chip in 09 if it wasn’t for Kobe. Melo probably just needed that one second star (besides Billups) But they ended up with Jokic in a few years which isn’t so bad
Fantastic vid!!!
Thanks Dillon!
My new favorite korzemba video straight to my favorites playlist💯
LOVE to hear it Mike thank you for sharing that!
For the Pacers, that's not the worst trade, we traded the 1984 first round pick for Tom Owens, a journeyman center. That FRP became #2 overall, we traded away our chance at Michael Jordan for a center who didn't stay for more than a year.
Really love your vids Mike. Keep up the great work.
Thank you Joey!!
My blood boils when i remember that Ibaka to Orlando trade. Oladipo was rising to become Orlando's version of D-Wade and they sent him and Sabonis for Ibaka with an expiring contract!!!
It's crazy how most of these trades seemed like no brainers at the time while others were obviously horrible at the time
Great video love the grind
While the Harden deal was pretty bad I don't think it was the worst pick in Thunder/Sonics history because back in Seattle the Sonics had the 5th pick in the 1987 draft but traded it to the bulls for the 8th pick Olden Polynice who turned into a backup center. The 5th pick turned into Scottie Pippen
I can’t imagine how much time went into a good ass video. Keep up the good work bro!
Great video Mike‼️💪🏾. 30 worst playoff runs
Thanks for this Mike! Love the videos
Mike, I LOVE your videos!
Since you are seeking ideas for all 30 teams, I’d love you take on “The Best and Worst Player for Each Franchise,” per your opinion / research.
I hope to see this!
I honestly believe a Chicago team that get this
- Still traded for Carlos Boozer
- Still had Joakim Noah
- Still got Luol Deng
- And got everyone else on that off the bench
That Bulls is most definitely going to the Finals against Dallas quite possibly winning.
Great video Mike! Da Bulls!
Aye Mike you really putting out nice stuff! Love the video, keep up the great work🔥
Thanks my man!
I’m still baffled how many people thought the nets were gonna win the finals when they made that trade. Pierce and Garnett were way past their prime in a Lebron led east. Still bothers me to this day
Exactly I don't get jt
Love your videos man!
Great Video Mike!
Love this video
As a Jazz fan, the fact that having Magic Johnson, John Stockton, Dominique Wilkins, and Karl Malone all at the same time was a possibility will never not be painful
Dont know if 2 pgs of that caliber could work together, but even adding Wilkins would have been crazy (and upgrading to Magic over Stockton even moreso.)
Stockton wouldn't have gotten drafted
In the Pelicans' defense.. at that time the team was in limbo. The NBA owned the team and everyone was assuming the franchise was gonna be sold
All love for the time and effort man. Really hope you keep with it💪🏽💯
For Detroit, the Billups trade was WAY WORSE than the Middleton trade. Billups was the cornerstone of that Pistons lineup and should have been the last guy to get traded...especially for a washed AI. It ended their playoff run, and they haven't won a playoff game since 2009. Middleton was a relative nobody on a bad team, that wasn't really on anyone's radar when he got traded to the Bucks.
Lamar Odom was also in trade talks to get Kobe another star, lets not forget that and the fact that the Lakers didn't give him up either, that's worth noting too. But yes as mentioned in the video how they got Marc Gasol in the trade, it could've been worse for the Grizzlies if not for that.
been here since 2016, my guy Korzemba 40min video be fireeee, respect my brotha
Respect for being here since 2016 my man i hope you enjoyed this one!
Crazy high quality video!!!!!
I would say the trade for Gerald Wallace that gave Damian Lillard to the Blazers was the Nets worst trade. Because at least they got KG and Pierce out of the deal you mentioned.