Just a few adventures in Northern Ontario breaking trails and getting stuck when out helping Danny on his trapline. 2020 Expedition Xtreme 850 E-TEC WT
Been sledding in northern ontario my whole life, dig out front under belly pan and skis never mind rear and tht sled will walk right out, I've seen experienced guys on 121" tracks go places where inexperienced riders on longer sleds getting stuck, every sled gets stuck, if u push hard enough, but experience is the key
Been riding here in the north since I was 4, shit happens no matter the experience. The best riders in the world get stuck they just usually don't share the videos of it. I have the titan and first thing I did was take thag snow flap off it was getting manled anyways with the studs
I always hate when you’re buddy is ahead breaking trail and you hear back up alarm on his sled,it’s like oh boy here we go,lol another great video moose man
Dude….you about rode that thing like you wanted to get stuck. The title of the vid should be “Maximizing your potential to get stuck”. Creeping, stopping, backing for no reason. You did well to not get stuck every 30’ by my estimation…lol.
Your throttle control is your enemy. Keep a steady throttle and you’ll do better. Or you do you. I have many thousands of kms in the Northern Saskatchewan backcountry in very deep snow and almost never get stuck. Because I hold a steady throttle. Also your clutch and belt is taking a major beating.
I ride this sled in Revelstoke BC in the mountains in 4 ft of powder and it is a beast. This machine will go through a lot of snow, but you need throttle control and weight distribution. Not sure why you are in low gear and reversing all the time either. If you saw where I go with this sled, you would be shocked.
drove a 600 swt skandic e -tech on the same tower line your on all winter.it had the wider ski skins and was great till the snow got to be 5-6 ft deep with no base, wish it had the 850 e-teck in it. Too bad you cant get an your sled with the swt. a gold finger would be a nice option on both. i had luck digging out the back a foot or two then getting down in front and kicking the snow down from under the belly pan to the track. will usually pop outdoing this,
Tying a rope through the windows of the track and tying the other end to a tree can also get you out of a bind when you slowly press the gas wrapping the rope around the track and pulling you out. Having a shovel is a must when breaking trail with these big sleds.
These sleds are work horses for an already beaten trail. If u want to beat a trail nothing is any better than the old 800 crossfire with 2.5 inch lug I use to have. And if u I ever got stuck bad I would tramp down snow on 1 side of it and rolled over on that side. U would never b able to roll or even lift one of these beasts. Tks for sharing.
These sleds are all heavy so once i got the gear off i was Able to throttle thru most of the other areas but sometimes got caught playing too much lol thank for watching!!
Easier to keep you moving forward. If you lose momentum and spin, tall paddles can tractor you deep pretty quickly though. The Expedition Xtreme has taller lugs, 1.8" I believe
@@steveakamooseman7786 I get the same thing on my videos. These guys don't know wide track sleds from their ass. Surprised you haven't got the blipping throttle complaint yet! Keep up the good work.
@@steveakamooseman7786 I have a SWT expedition, like you said don’t pin it or you’ll have a 24 inch wide hole to the grass. I found out the hard way it’s nothing like a mountain sled haha
In the 90s I had a 90 Polaris 340 sport with an SKS we used to go in the backcountry pretty far what was nice is if you got stuck you could pick it up and throw it over it was only like 320 lb these new sleds I'm old I wouldn't be able to move them an inch
ok hate to be rude but anyone worried who owns thius sled about getting stuck don't worry, just make sure your not tapping on the throtle the whole time like this guy. it you actually go above 3500rpm youll be fine lmao. very nice sled though
Nice sled but I think I would be riding swt for as many times you stuck I got 600ace swt and I ride in basically ride same snow conditions not very often I get stuck lol but when I do it’s bad get shovel out or winch. Out lol
I do miss my SWT when these times come i have to admit but they are much wider to sit on as i had a swt for 15 yrs and never thought they would get wicked engines is why i bought a bit more power but trying not to dig a trench to make a nice trail takes patience lol and i say it all the time for trail breaking you cannot beat a swt lol also i never carried snowshoes either when i had my swt lol thanks for watching lol
Another great video! How much snow was on that trail where you were going so slow? What does resign the throttle do to help you thru those conditions? I was suprized that your 850 had as much problem as it did to go thru that., but I don't travel in those types of conditions. Thanks and keep the videos coming!
So i hit a bump i didn’t see in the line i took and snow was sugar like style under the surface so momentum was your friend and with me heading for the trees i just let off throttle to reposition and i lost momentum but in those areas we get 4 ft of snow then mild weather few days then cold creating crust and sugar like snow but all good i was way to heavy on the back aswell lol just all fun . Thanks for watching
you should think about investing in a snowjack, I have 1 one on my 900sw expedition, they are pretty compact and can lift the rear or front of your machine about 6ft.
Nice looking machine, that’s about it. To heavy for f*ckall. Get a tundra or an elan, unless you like getting stuck and having to shovel and winch out. Faster isn’t always better.
When hill climbing with these wide track utility machines it is often best to go until you feel it beginning to settle in and sink and you are loosing momentum. At that point stop and back up a bit and then proceed forward. You may often find that you will gain more ground and be more successful if hills are managed this way rather than throttle pinned to the max. Of course it depends on the steepness, snow depth etc. But often if you pin the throttle wide open on the hills with this type of machine you will only succeed in digging a deep trench and burying your machine. Of course the methods used for the same terrain on a mountain machine is much different.
@@steveakamooseman7786 I agree. My comment was directed at the original commentor. I have had a wide track for 12 years and sometimes I can wide open throttle to make it through iffy situations and sometimes that method will bury it. I broke trail for about 12 miles with a couple of other fellas on machine several years ago. One fella had a super wide. We came to a steep hill with unbroken snow on the trail. I knew there was absolutely no way that my wide track would make it up that hill breaking trail. My wide track is bad at backing up. The super wide volunteered. He and his machine amazed me by doing the same tactic as you did in this video. He was able to break a trail all the way up that steep hill by going forward and then backing up and going forward once again a bit further and then repeat. There just simply was no way that my machine would have done that wide open throttle. There was no way I could have done the same thing he did and make it up breaking trail due to my machine's lack of backing ability. I begun riding snowmachines here in Alaska over 5 decades ago and am still learning.
Same here been on SWT 500 fan since 2002 then bought this one in 2020 lol SWT is my next one again even tho i love this one its just not the same lol thank for the comment!!!
Been sledding in northern ontario my whole life, dig out front under belly pan and skis never mind rear and tht sled will walk right out, I've seen experienced guys on 121" tracks go places where inexperienced riders on longer sleds getting stuck, every sled gets stuck, if u push hard enough, but experience is the key
I have tons experience and every now and then you get stuck 3600km and only few times stuck is not bad so ya its all part of it
Been riding here in the north since I was 4, shit happens no matter the experience. The best riders in the world get stuck they just usually don't share the videos of it. I have the titan and first thing I did was take thag snow flap off it was getting manled anyways with the studs
@@LiamG903 absolutely true for the flap i put a hole in it and pull it with bungie .
Makes me nervous about my upcoming fishing trip for specks in wawa first weenkend in may! Thanks for sharing!
💯rider inexperience. The throttle is your friend. That machine will go just about anywhere.
Lol thanks for watching!
I always hate when you’re buddy is ahead breaking trail and you hear back up alarm on his sled,it’s like oh boy here we go,lol another great video moose man
thanks buddy!!!!
Dude….you about rode that thing like you wanted to get stuck. The title of the vid should be “Maximizing your potential to get stuck”. Creeping, stopping, backing for no reason. You did well to not get stuck every 30’ by my estimation…lol.
The Videos and snow conditions are deceiving but thanks for watching
I think you are barking up the wrong tree here
Thanks !! 👍
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Your throttle control is your enemy. Keep a steady throttle and you’ll do better. Or you do you. I have many thousands of kms in the Northern Saskatchewan backcountry in very deep snow and almost never get stuck. Because I hold a steady throttle. Also your clutch and belt is taking a major beating.
I ride this sled in Revelstoke BC in the mountains in 4 ft of powder and it is a beast. This machine will go through a lot of snow, but you need throttle control and weight distribution. Not sure why you are in low gear and reversing all the time either. If you saw where I go with this sled, you would be shocked.
Was end of season with layers and had too much weight on the back lol thanks for watching.
His riding style is annoying.
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Riding in powder vs riding in pure March sugar under a crust that hangs you up all the time are 2 very different things.
Thanks !!👍
drove a 600 swt skandic e -tech on the same tower line your on all winter.it had the wider ski skins and was great till the snow got to be 5-6 ft deep with no base, wish it had the 850 e-teck in it. Too bad you cant get an your sled with the swt. a gold finger would be a nice option on both. i had luck digging out the back a foot or two then getting down in front and kicking the snow down from under the belly pan to the track. will usually pop outdoing this,
I’m planning my last trip out for the season and this video is making me worry. New sub here.
Welcome aboard! thank you!
after owning sleds like these, i found out that a high lift jack is very useful.
Tying a rope through the windows of the track and tying the other end to a tree can also get you out of a bind when you slowly press the gas wrapping the rope around the track and pulling you out.
Having a shovel is a must when breaking trail with these big sleds.
see that done having to go up a steep creek as only way lol
These sleds are work horses for an already beaten trail. If u want to beat a trail nothing is any better than the old 800 crossfire with 2.5 inch lug I use to have. And if u I ever got stuck bad I would tramp down snow on 1 side of it and rolled over on that side. U would never b able to roll or even lift one of these beasts. Tks for sharing.
These sleds are all heavy so once i got the gear off i was
Able to throttle thru most of the other areas but sometimes got caught playing too much lol thank for watching!!
Awesome to watch.
Glad to see Snowshoes.
Machines break.
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching ! And yes almost a must in case sled breaks down lol
Question to guys who have Snowmobiles...So if he had larger Paddles on the Trax would that make it easier to go through Deeper Snow?
Easier to keep you moving forward. If you lose momentum and spin, tall paddles can tractor you deep pretty quickly though.
The Expedition Xtreme has taller lugs, 1.8" I believe
Use the horsepower and speed. Not to be insulting but I think more experience would help. That shovel is a good send !!
lol i will leave it at that lol hahahaha thx
Not many guys around with as much bush experience as Steve
@@steveakamooseman7786 I get the same thing on my videos. These guys don't know wide track sleds from their ass. Surprised you haven't got the blipping throttle complaint yet! Keep up the good work.
@@SkeldZ06 Quit blipping that throttle!!!!!!!
@@steveakamooseman7786 I have a SWT expedition, like you said don’t pin it or you’ll have a 24 inch wide hole to the grass. I found out the hard way it’s nothing like a mountain sled haha
In the 90s I had a 90 Polaris 340 sport with an SKS we used to go in the backcountry pretty far what was nice is if you got stuck you could pick it up and throw it over it was only like 320 lb these new sleds I'm old I wouldn't be able to move them an inch
You got that right lol
Thank goodness for a sno shovel , THAT WILL WARM YOU UP
🤣hahahaha it sure does thanks for watching.
Good sleep that night I bet!
Nice work Brother.
fresh air works wonders lol
More trottle, problem solved!
Thank for watching !!
Check suspension adjustment. In deep snow keep it extra soft. That will do a lot with float.
Greetings from lappland.
Thanks for the tip!
nice video,i have same as your but 900 ace for the flap i did cut off 4 inches and it did help a lot,i have wider skis on it,it does float better,
Thats awesome thanks for watching.
ok hate to be rude but anyone worried who owns thius sled about getting stuck don't worry, just make sure your not tapping on the throtle the whole time like this guy. it you actually go above 3500rpm youll be fine lmao. very nice sled though
Hahaha thx lol
I haul a toboggan full through 4ft of snow, with a ski doo 600efi 2022 sport, I always full throttle all the way, make that machine braapppp lol 😅
Just a few times i got stuck i videoed lol sometimes it happens lol thanks for watching !!
Love the sled I need to up grade this yr
its a powerful sled and lots of fun
u need to keep the hammer down on that thing no wonder why ur stuck all time
oh when i can i do lol thx
Looks to me like that sled is doing amazing
It sure is an amazing sled !
Nice sled but I think I would be riding swt for as many times you stuck I got 600ace swt and I ride in basically ride same snow conditions not very often I get stuck lol but when I do it’s bad get shovel out or winch. Out lol
I do miss my SWT when these times come i have to admit but they are much wider to sit on as i had a swt for 15 yrs and never thought they would get wicked engines is why i bought a bit more power but trying not to dig a trench to make a nice trail takes patience lol and i say it all the time for trail breaking you cannot beat a swt lol also i never carried snowshoes either when i had my swt lol thanks for watching lol
Another great video! How much snow was on that trail where you were going so slow? What does resign the throttle do to help you thru those conditions? I was suprized that your 850 had as much problem as it did to go thru that., but I don't travel in those types of conditions. Thanks and keep the videos coming!
So i hit a bump i didn’t see in the line i took and snow was sugar like style under the surface so momentum was your friend and with me heading for the trees i just let off throttle to reposition and i lost momentum but in those areas we get 4 ft of snow then mild weather few days then cold creating crust and sugar like snow but all good i was way to heavy on the back aswell lol just all fun . Thanks for watching
you should think about investing in a snowjack, I have 1 one on my 900sw expedition, they are pretty compact and can lift the rear or front of your machine about 6ft.
Ya we have old car bumper jacks lol hard to find anymore lol thanks for watching and hope to have more adventures to post on here !!
I used to use them as well until I found out about The Snow Jack, much better jack. Anyhow keep enjoying the powder
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cut 4-5" of your flap off so you can use reverse. It wont overheat, you have a radiator
I just tie it with bungie when breaking trails and take box off as heavy with gear and it works good now and thanks for watching !!
More stomping the snow under the belly and less shoveling.
Not in sugar
Chinese balloon at 4:36 They want to see how that winch works to.
lol that hilarious but its the moon lol i did see one last august but not in this video lol thanks for watching ...:)
IMHO this is what long track sleds were created to do & they are heavy with gear - getting stuck sucks !
Yes they are lol thanks for watching!
I want one of the bikes dose anyone know who has one for sale????
Thanks for watching!
You need the 900 ace. But nice sled for sure
Get on that thing gramps
Thats the plans this winter lol
Nice looking machine, that’s about it. To heavy for f*ckall. Get a tundra or an elan, unless you like getting stuck and having to shovel and winch out. Faster isn’t always better.
Thanks for watching
😂😂funny how keyboard riders think it’s your first ride Nice video
Thanks for the comment and camera angles never do it justice thats for sure lol thanks for watching Pierre.
whats with all the random reversing? just pin it mate :D
When i can it is pinned lol
When hill climbing with these wide track utility machines it is often best to go until you feel it beginning to settle in and sink and you are loosing momentum. At that point stop and back up a bit and then proceed forward. You may often find that you will gain more ground and be more successful if hills are managed this way rather than throttle pinned to the max. Of course it depends on the steepness, snow depth etc. But often if you pin the throttle wide open on the hills with this type of machine you will only succeed in digging a deep trench and burying your machine. Of course the methods used for the same terrain on a mountain machine is much different.
Lol all depends on conditions and terrain lol thanks for watching !
@@steveakamooseman7786 I agree. My comment was directed at the original commentor. I have had a wide track for 12 years and sometimes I can wide open throttle to make it through iffy situations and sometimes that method will bury it. I broke trail for about 12 miles with a couple of other fellas on machine several years ago. One fella had a super wide. We came to a steep hill with unbroken snow on the trail. I knew there was absolutely no way that my wide track would make it up that hill breaking trail. My wide track is bad at backing up. The super wide volunteered. He and his machine amazed me by doing the same tactic as you did in this video. He was able to break a trail all the way up that steep hill by going forward and then backing up and going forward once again a bit further and then repeat. There just simply was no way that my machine would have done that wide open throttle. There was no way I could have done the same thing he did and make it up breaking trail due to my machine's lack of backing ability. I begun riding snowmachines here in Alaska over 5 decades ago and am still learning.
Same here been on SWT 500 fan since 2002 then bought this one in 2020 lol SWT is my next one again even tho i love this one its just not the same lol thank for the comment!!!
I love these new sleds but when I was a kid, I don't ever remember getting the '75 cheetah stuck. It floated thru powder or slush like f**k all!
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you ride to slow men ,
HA HA Thanks for watching men!!