Part Three: Christopher Columbus: Bringer of the Apocalypse | BEHIND THE BASTARDS
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Part Three: Christopher Columbus: Bringer of the Apocalypse | BEHIND THE BASTARDS
Robert is joined again by Michael Swaim for the final part of our series on Christopher Columbus.
Original Air Date: September 13, 2022
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There’s a reason the History Channel has produced hundreds of documentaries about Hitler but only a few about Dwight D. Eisenhower. Bad guys (and gals) are eternally fascinating. Behind the Bastards dives in past the Cliffs Notes of the worst humans in history and exposes the bizarre realities of their lives. Listeners will learn about the young adult novels that helped Hitler form his monstrous ideology, the founder of Blackwater’s insane quest to build his own Air Force, the bizarre lives of the sons and daughters of dictators and Saddam Hussein’s side career as a trashy romance novelist.
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I'm so happy to be part of the listen where we finally hear the name of the child hunting island entity.
If anything, I'm disappointed that my loyalty to Hello Fresh will never be rewarded with a free night's stay or even a full breakfast package.
FINALLY
It's escape censorship once or twice before.
It's an island based on the shape of an apron if that helps....🤫
I love that disclaimer, like you def get the sense Evan's likes to have real sort of backing for his points, and that's very admirable to highlight current indigenous populations while affected by this evil conquest, are still there and worth recognition.
Good correction, man.
We finally got an unbleeped "Blue Apron hunting people for sport" plug
10:20 I can see the tech startup metaphor but my first reaction to listening to this account was, "Did Columbus found the first MLM?"
I just looked it up and his direct decedent still holds the title of Admiral of the Ocean Sea, Admiral of the Indies. Oof
I honestly think he's a really strong contender for the worst person who's ever lived. Not only were his crimes utterly appalling, but he basically started two of the worst trends in all of history- European colonialism and the transatlantic slave trade. Maybe they'd have unfolded the same way if someone else had stumbled across the New World first, but you're left with the distinct possibility that they might not have. As discussed here, he was regarded as uniquely greedy, brutal and evil even by the horrible standards of those around him. If someone who had been less completely horny for slavery and exploitation had been the first, then maybe a different tone would have been set for the ongoing relationship between the people of Europe and the Americas. As it was, the lesson the world got from him was that it was really easy to go over there and murder and enslave people and you could get really, really rich doing it. So you got a whole bunch of the worst people in Spain going over there to be Conquistadors, who came back really rich from murdering and enslaving people and taking their lands, and inspired all the worst people in other countries to give it a go as well.
One of the absolute best possible uses of a time machine would be ensuring that the Niña, the Pinta, and the Santa María never ever showed up back in Europe.
Easily the top 5 for sure. Columbus was a really big piece of shit.
I'd say he comes in as being slightly better than Hitler, but you really need to dig deep to be worse than Hitler.
Thing is, he wasn't even the first European to set foot in what is now the Americas. A group of vikings had landed on the northern tip of Newfoundland, after settling in Iceland and Greenland, some 400 years before Columbus. Their goal was mostly just to see what was there, but also to ship wood back to Scandinavia in order to build more boats. They encountered a group of native Americans and had a fairly peaceful first meeting with an exchange of food and other goods. Unfortunately, the vikings gave the natives milk, and the natives were lactose intolerant. Deciding the vikings had poisoned them, the natives drove them back into the sea. The vikings decided that it wasn't worth the effort to try again as the travel time between there and Scandinavia was too long and the natives were apparently not content to leave them to their business. All a misunderstanding, but, you know, language barriers. The vikings never went further west than Greenland again.
@@corvuscallosum5079 Ironically, Isabella and Ferdinand probably never expected him to come back- Columbus believed a fringe theory that the world was much smaller than it actually is, and that was why he thought he could reach Asia. He'd tried to get several monarchs to fund him, and they'd all turned him down because they listened to experts who told them he'd run out of food and water before he ever got there. The experts were right, but they had no way of knowing that Columbus would run into an unknown continent in between. Isabella and Ferdinand probably only funded him because they'd just conquered Granada and had loads of money to spare for risky ventures.
That went much darker than I had even thought possible. Forced labour would have absolutely collapsed the food and sanitation, healthcare, parenting, et.c. There would likely have been crops (or partly domesticated plants) that required cultivation, and died off without it.
Yay! More sadness!
As far as justifications for slavery go (and I've not heard a good one) "they had it coming" is a weird one for a modern historian to go for.
Unbleeped island description! A rare gem
These Carribs sound metal as hell tbh
The American Sparta
It's satisfying in a way to know that Christopher Columbus was as bad in fact bad for his time and in many ways WAY fucking worse for his time.
Weird how free enterprise had to be instituted at the point of a gun and threat of a fate worse than death and acceptance was barely better then said fate worse than death.
nice little material economy you got there, would sure be a shame if somebody imposed a monetary system on it...
Had to look up titane. That is the most insane plot synopsis i have ever read.
I know it's been a while since this episode came out, but it always irks me that people in the US say "Columbus got to America" and treat it like his actions happened in the continental USA.
Who knew Columbus was such a bastard? Besides everyone not a knight of Columbus?
Christopher Columbus: Why does no-one like me anymore?
Type-Moon: You're a sociopath
Christopher Columbus: *you think I care?! YOU ARE ALONE, WEEB*
Wow the idea of mass suicide like that is haunting. I'd probably do the same thing honestly. How do you live after that?
1:23:41 😦 *RIP to those souls*
ooo im excited to listen to part 3!
Even Genghis Khan was pragmatic enough to exempt the poor from taxes.
Imagine Columbus went to abduct the Carib and they open fire with an AK-47. What those remaning would have written back to Spain.
The HISTORY of america...
I've heard some disturbing things on the internet, but this is too much even for me.
performing any kind of surgery on the genitals of infants that isn't strictly necessary for medical reasons is wrong, no matter what religion or culture you belong to, circumcision is abuse jewish or not
Love from a Wendigoon and Vaush fan!
Circumcision is abuse though?
man it sure is awful christopher stopped child sacrifices and cannibalism
He also enslaved and killed like 90 percent of the population but hey, who's counting
yeah christians would never do things like that, never sacrifice their children or eat and drink the body of christ, and certainly never lie about people practicing human sacrifice and cannibalism or enslave anyone, and would always think before opening their mouths
You just having a normal one, huh?
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by instituting systematic child slavery, including sex slavery. As long as they don't eat the dead nothing is off the table while they still live, huh.
how do you spell the movie you were talking about at the start? all i'm turning up is this en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titan_Media
Titane (France 2021)