My compliments on the video. A good demo paired with simple, succinct instruction and repetition. Braquage turns are part of the CSIA level 3 ski test curriculum.
@@RonaiHenrik You do not want to be light on your skis or jumping around. You want to be glued to the snow so the ski design can work. With the proper technique, you can still ski a narrow trail and you always ski the bumps, not jump around in them.
@@JB91710 you do you, man. Let me do my skiing however I want :) I have been skiing since I was 3-4 and I would probably use the hop and turn technique if it's narrow and bumpy. It works for me. I think "narrow" and "bumpy" are subjective so we're not even imagining the same thing right now.
@@RonaiHenrik When you say that is what you do, and other skiers read what you say and might follow it, I am posting technically correct alternative. I've been teaching for 55 years so I kind of know. Yes, you can do whatever you want. I am just giving you the correct way and you can do what you want with it.
You don't consciously Make your leg rotate. Your ski turning while you just balance on it, makes your leg turn. You can do that in tight locations also. Once you learn how to ski correctly, THEN, you can do anything you want including these turns but at that point, you can figure it out yourself. You didn't mention anything about what you are doing with your body to allow the skis to flatten and then re-edge to start and finish the turn and the weight transfer during the turn. All students can do is mimic what they see but without the details, they will not succeed. This was What, with no, How?
Without applying leg rotation, how can we create turns with various sizes and shapes by just balancing on it? (Just a beginner being sincerely and respectfully curious)
@csSHELDOR Well, I'm glad I can enlighten you. The answer is simple. You make the same moves you would to slow down and stop. You have two brake pedals in skiing. The tongues of your boots and your hip that is on the inside of the turn. Right turn, right hip. As you are balanced on the turning ski, apply pressure to the tongue of your boots. That will take the weight off the tails and put it on the tips, which will bend and turn while the tails slide around. If you feel the skis sliding sideways too much, lean your hip slightly into the turn, which will create a steeper leg angle that will put the skis more on the edge to increase grip. So, to start a turn, you face and lean down the hill, take your weight off your downhill foot, and balance on your uphill foot. Then you apply pressure to the tongue of your boot and lean your hip into the turn as much as you need to make the skis grip the snow.
@@JB91710 I get your point now. It's about balancing on the outside ski and thus we have passive leg rotation. By angulating our hips in different extent, we manage to control the edge angle and consequently make turns like skidded turns or carving turns, right? Many systems and teaching theories out there emphasize active leg steering and when I tried it on snow, I did feel a difference though. Maybe I was just actively increasing the edge angle and closed the turn quicker, mixing up the cause and effect. So it was the increased edge angle that made me feel more leg rotation, perhaps? May I also ask how you would make dynamic short turns then?
@@csSHELDOR 1. Correct. 2. They emphasize active leg steering because they don't understand what they actually do. All they do s describe the byproducts of doing what they can't comprehend. It's like trying to cure the common cold by focusing on the symptoms. They see and feel things happening during a turn and only describe what they look and feel like and call that teaching. That's just describing. All a student can do with that is mimic what it looks like they are doing, and the student does what comes naturally to them, and it is the opposite of what they actually should be doing. Yes, you are actively increasing your leg angle when you force your skis to the side by pushing your feet out from under you. That makes you stand on your inside ski too much, so your skis Only change direction, they do Not bend and turn. So, you end up going Straight down the hill to your right, and straight down the hill to your left. You have to be balanced ON your turning ski for it to turn. Imagine you are driving your car away from a stop light and want to make a left turn. You sit their facing the dashboard (Down the hill) and you rotate the steering wheel (Change your weight from the downhill to uphill foot) and the car turns. They turn because you have done what they needed you to do. They have built in steering systems that work when you do ONLY what they need you to do. Now, imagine what would happen to that car if you rotated your body in the seat and pushed your foot through the floor and tried to push the tire around. You might get the car to change direction, but you wouldn't allow it to make the turn for you by its design. It is barbaric, what instructors are teaching students, worldwide. 3. To make tight or quick turns, you have to exaggerate what the skis need from you. Again, imagine this. From a traverse, you are supposed to face your upper body down the hill at the beginning of the new turn. If you are making tight connected turns, you face it down the hill and not change it. You just change the foot you are standing on as the skis pass under you. If you want to make very quick turns, you lean your upper body not just down the hill but back in the direction you want the skis to turn which will create a much quicker leg angle change. Your skis are turning to the right, so you quickly move your upper body down the hill and to the left as you quickly change your weight and balance to the uphill ski. Watch Giant Slalom racers in slow motion. While their skis are heading towards the next gate, they start rotating their upper bodies to face in the direction they want them to turn next. You make turns with your face and chest, not your knees and feet. What happens below your waste is a direct result of what you do from the waste up. Your skis go right while your chest goes left. Your skis turn left while your chest goes right. Everything you need to READ is at my video.
@@JB91710 1. When actively rotating our legs, we can still balance on our outside ski, and thus we have the exercises like "javelin turns" or "stork turns", i.e. turning with only one ski and lifting up the other one. 2. When travelling from downhill to the right or left, it creates a "closed turn" so as to control our speed especially on the steeps. The videos of you and other racers skiing show "open turns" as they are racing and want maximum speed. I believe making our skis travel across the slope has its value when it comes to speed control. 3. When you ski and same as other racers, I don't see much upper body rotation. Rather, you guys have pretty stable upper body as an anchor for leg rotation. Same as many skiing videos doing short turns and going through moguls. Initiating "top-to-bottom" turn with our head seems to be less effective than moving our feet, which have direct control and effect to our skis, don't they?
My compliments on the video. A good demo paired with simple, succinct instruction and repetition. Braquage turns are part of the CSIA level 3 ski test curriculum.
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Necessary techniques, especially if building up for jump turns
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У французов это называется "бракаж" - одновременный разворот лыж.
What if its narrow and bumpy?
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I'd use hop and turn then and use the bumps for the hops
@@RonaiHenrik You do not want to be light on your skis or jumping around. You want to be glued to the snow so the ski design can work. With the proper technique, you can still ski a narrow trail and you always ski the bumps, not jump around in them.
@@JB91710 you do you, man. Let me do my skiing however I want :) I have been skiing since I was 3-4 and I would probably use the hop and turn technique if it's narrow and bumpy. It works for me. I think "narrow" and "bumpy" are subjective so we're not even imagining the same thing right now.
@@RonaiHenrik When you say that is what you do, and other skiers read what you say and might follow it, I am posting technically correct alternative. I've been teaching for 55 years so I kind of know. Yes, you can do whatever you want. I am just giving you the correct way and you can do what you want with it.
You don't consciously Make your leg rotate. Your ski turning while you just balance on it, makes your leg turn. You can do that in tight locations also. Once you learn how to ski correctly, THEN, you can do anything you want including these turns but at that point, you can figure it out yourself. You didn't mention anything about what you are doing with your body to allow the skis to flatten and then re-edge to start and finish the turn and the weight transfer during the turn. All students can do is mimic what they see but without the details, they will not succeed. This was What, with no, How?
Without applying leg rotation, how can we create turns with various sizes and shapes by just balancing on it? (Just a beginner being sincerely and respectfully curious)
@csSHELDOR Well, I'm glad I can enlighten you. The answer is simple. You make the same moves you would to slow down and stop.
You have two brake pedals in skiing. The tongues of your boots and your hip that is on the inside of the turn. Right turn, right hip.
As you are balanced on the turning ski, apply pressure to the tongue of your boots. That will take the weight off the tails and put it on the tips, which will bend and turn while the tails slide around.
If you feel the skis sliding sideways too much, lean your hip slightly into the turn, which will create a steeper leg angle that will put the skis more on the edge to increase grip.
So, to start a turn, you face and lean down the hill, take your weight off your downhill foot, and balance on your uphill foot. Then you apply pressure to the tongue of your boot and lean your hip into the turn as much as you need to make the skis grip the snow.
@@JB91710 I get your point now. It's about balancing on the outside ski and thus we have passive leg rotation. By angulating our hips in different extent, we manage to control the edge angle and consequently make turns like skidded turns or carving turns, right?
Many systems and teaching theories out there emphasize active leg steering and when I tried it on snow, I did feel a difference though. Maybe I was just actively increasing the edge angle and closed the turn quicker, mixing up the cause and effect. So it was the increased edge angle that made me feel more leg rotation, perhaps?
May I also ask how you would make dynamic short turns then?
@@csSHELDOR 1. Correct.
2. They emphasize active leg steering because they don't understand what they actually do. All they do s describe the byproducts of doing what they can't comprehend. It's like trying to cure the common cold by focusing on the symptoms. They see and feel things happening during a turn and only describe what they look and feel like and call that teaching. That's just describing. All a student can do with that is mimic what it looks like they are doing, and the student does what comes naturally to them, and it is the opposite of what they actually should be doing.
Yes, you are actively increasing your leg angle when you force your skis to the side by pushing your feet out from under you. That makes you stand on your inside ski too much, so your skis Only change direction, they do Not bend and turn. So, you end up going Straight down the hill to your right, and straight down the hill to your left. You have to be balanced ON your turning ski for it to turn.
Imagine you are driving your car away from a stop light and want to make a left turn. You sit their facing the dashboard (Down the hill) and you rotate the steering wheel (Change your weight from the downhill to uphill foot) and the car turns. They turn because you have done what they needed you to do. They have built in steering systems that work when you do ONLY what they need you to do. Now, imagine what would happen to that car if you rotated your body in the seat and pushed your foot through the floor and tried to push the tire around. You might get the car to change direction, but you wouldn't allow it to make the turn for you by its design. It is barbaric, what instructors are teaching students, worldwide.
3. To make tight or quick turns, you have to exaggerate what the skis need from you. Again, imagine this. From a traverse, you are supposed to face your upper body down the hill at the beginning of the new turn. If you are making tight connected turns, you face it down the hill and not change it. You just change the foot you are standing on as the skis pass under you. If you want to make very quick turns, you lean your upper body not just down the hill but back in the direction you want the skis to turn which will create a much quicker leg angle change.
Your skis are turning to the right, so you quickly move your upper body down the hill and to the left as you quickly change your weight and balance to the uphill ski. Watch Giant Slalom racers in slow motion. While their skis are heading towards the next gate, they start rotating their upper bodies to face in the direction they want them to turn next. You make turns with your face and chest, not your knees and feet. What happens below your waste is a direct result of what you do from the waste up.
Your skis go right while your chest goes left. Your skis turn left while your chest goes right. Everything you need to READ is at my video.
@@JB91710 1. When actively rotating our legs, we can still balance on our outside ski, and thus we have the exercises like "javelin turns" or "stork turns", i.e. turning with only one ski and lifting up the other one.
2. When travelling from downhill to the right or left, it creates a "closed turn" so as to control our speed especially on the steeps. The videos of you and other racers skiing show "open turns" as they are racing and want maximum speed. I believe making our skis travel across the slope has its value when it comes to speed control.
3. When you ski and same as other racers, I don't see much upper body rotation. Rather, you guys have pretty stable upper body as an anchor for leg rotation. Same as many skiing videos doing short turns and going through moguls. Initiating "top-to-bottom" turn with our head seems to be less effective than moving our feet, which have direct control and effect to our skis, don't they?