The OTHER Ms. Marvel, Sharon Ventura

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  • @MerryMarvelite
    @MerryMarvelite  2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Hey, heroes! Thank you for watching another video! I'll be streaming again on Twitch again this weekend. On Saturday I'll be playing more Mega Man X4, then on Sunday I'll be finishing Spider-Man: Web of Shadows with the black suit ending!
    www.twitch.tv/merrymarvelite

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      @jspring6746 2 ปีที่แล้ว

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    • @McMahonHater
      @McMahonHater 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is the Ms. Marvel they should have done the TV series on. Sharon on the run from the Power Broker's goons (especially the Grappler).

  • @WhiteRaven696
    @WhiteRaven696 2 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    It’s kind of strange that Kamala hasn’t met Sharon, Mystique, Rogue or anyone else that’s notably a part of the Ms. Marvel legacy.

    • @douglasbriel6103
      @douglasbriel6103 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I don't think Sharon has shown up since Secret Wars, which would mean her fate is still up in the air.

    • @witchivy5905
      @witchivy5905 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Mystique would toy with that poor girl break her down and spit her out a better more competent Hero xD

    • @therealkennybo
      @therealkennybo 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      That’s because Kamala isn’t supposed to be Ms Marvel lol

  • @samwill7259
    @samwill7259 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Poor thing. She wanted power, she wanted control. She didn't realize all she needed was the love that people around her would freely give. She was always a hero, she just couldn't see it from how low her self esteem was standing.

  • @antwan1357
    @antwan1357 2 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    I was always confused by She_Thing , I was even more confused when I found out her name was Ms Marvel , and then I was confused even more when I found out she wasn't Carol Danvers. Thanks for making this as it stops years of confusion.

  • @g8kpr3000
    @g8kpr3000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    As a kid, this always confused me because Sharon Ventura looks so similar to Carol Danvers. I also often think of Captain Marvel as Monica Rambeau

  • @rubiconprime1429
    @rubiconprime1429 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I love how colourful that Ms. Marvel costume was.

  • @blackphoenix77
    @blackphoenix77 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    I got the issues where Sharon Ventura first transformed into "She-Thing" several years ago; I always liked her.

    • @rockmanmix6242
      @rockmanmix6242 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      So it must be hurtful to know that she became a villain

    • @michaelgarcia5680
      @michaelgarcia5680 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Her reaction to becoming She-Thing was haunting for me

    • @matthewschwartz6607
      @matthewschwartz6607 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not really a villain.

    • @rockmanmix6242
      @rockmanmix6242 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@matthewschwartz6607 didn’t she break Ben’s arm once?

    • @matthewschwartz6607
      @matthewschwartz6607 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rockmanmix6242 - I don't believe so, no (Although I could be wrong. ). If she did, it was probably by accident.

  • @darian858
    @darian858 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    80s comics were so awesome!
    I miss when comic books told engaging stories
    Like these that pull you in

  • @56postoffice
    @56postoffice 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    No confusion. Monica Rambeau was actually the first female hero to have the Captain Marvel moniker in the comics, Carol Danvers was always Ms Marvel. I still have the Fantastic Four issues where Sharon Ventura became a member as the new Ms Marvel.

  • @christopherulichney
    @christopherulichney 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    One of my favorite lost characters from the 1980s. Glad to see her get some love here. I have always loved her original costume. The cover to the issue of The Thing where it reads "Introducing the NEW Ms. Marvel" is one of my favorite covers ever.
    Any chance we can get a video covering D-Man? or maybe Battlestar (Lemar Hoskins) ? seeing them in this video piqued my interest in them getting their own videos. .

  • @bigbabysld
    @bigbabysld 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    as comic collector, I hold my head down in shame...because i totally forgot about her, the forgotten Ms marvel

    • @nvfury13
      @nvfury13 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I only remember her from when she became “She-Thing”.

  • @keifsavage1090
    @keifsavage1090 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Wow, well researched, kinda feel sad for her, I would like to know more about her character.

    • @sawtooth808
      @sawtooth808 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This video is a *very good* primer for Sharon Ventura/Ms.Marvel aka She Thing

  • @aaronwilder2775
    @aaronwilder2775 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'd never heard of Sharon Ventura before this video and honestly she sounds like such a cool character. She sounds well rounded, her progression in terms of powers and personal relationships is also really interesting

  • @AgentNevets
    @AgentNevets 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I am huge Sharon Ventura/All New Ms. Marvel/She-Thing fan! Great video, so in depth and I didn't see/hear any errors!

  • @markmagician2471
    @markmagician2471 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    My favorite Ms Marvel I liked the time period when she was with the Thing but it was a shame she became evil. She needs a show on Disney plus

  • @Artisan1979
    @Artisan1979 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The character really got a raw deal after she was transformed for a second time into the she thing.I sincerely hope that she gets a better story soon.

  • @guruuvy
    @guruuvy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My FAVORITE Sharon Ventura moment was when she had been mutated similarly to Ben Grimm.
    She started a ruckus in the middle of a court case where Ben was on trial and a bystander looked at her and said “Isn’t that Ms. Thing?”
    I was laughing for 10 minutes!

  • @samfrito
    @samfrito 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    poor Sharon. no simple story could suffice, her life was tumultuous. poor Dennis Dunphy, too.

  • @antonmassopust568
    @antonmassopust568 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That is a really great story she's complicated and sad a story

  • @homeaccount5943
    @homeaccount5943 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I really enjoy the character of Sharon Ventura. Somebody needs to bring her back. They could give her a color variation of her original costume, and call her the "American Amazon." There's so many great characters in Marvel Comics that have gotten lost over the years.

    • @DP-eh6pd
      @DP-eh6pd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      American Amazon 😬🤣

    • @jalenikezeue4114
      @jalenikezeue4114 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Her father was too hard On her and he was full of pride

  • @naomifoxx5418
    @naomifoxx5418 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I truly love your videos you are truly amazing for putting all of these together I’ve been a subscriber for a very long time I look forward to every time you post huge fan keep them coming ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

  • @dionneking8
    @dionneking8 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like this ms.marvel as well

  • @CaptainChapin
    @CaptainChapin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    She lives a hell of a life, I would love to see her in her own film

  • @allensao1210
    @allensao1210 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow what a video! I find it so funny with how many times Ben and Sharon kept on mutating and regressing. Like the writers couldn’t make up their mind.

  • @anthonyperdue3557
    @anthonyperdue3557 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    😍Love Redheads and a few months ago discovered Sharon Ventura , making her my #1 Ms Marvel! Now after seeing this history on her my mission is to put together a library of her adventures.

  • @TheKenzoidElkhorn
    @TheKenzoidElkhorn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thanks MerrMarvelite for bringing Sharon Ventura to the light. I knew this character from late 80's as MsThing when only 3 characters in th Fantastic Four. You told the whole story from beginning to end. Do you know how many comics that took ? Maybe 300 or more . Plus she is my favorite character next to Ms Invisible Woman and Captain Marvel on the 1980's Avengers. Thanks again and I'm forever grateful.

  • @i.n.o.productionscompany9699
    @i.n.o.productionscompany9699 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Nice ! I've never heard of her before. Thank you so much for this history

  • @championz1184
    @championz1184 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Your channel is one of the best on TH-cam. Thank you!

  • @CaptainFrost32
    @CaptainFrost32 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This would have been a great resource when I was writing my submission for the Unofficial Canon Project in Project Road Trip. It basically takes an area not explored in the comics in depth, and suggests potential story hooks for the roleplaying game. [Marvel Super Heroes Advanced Set, that is. Not the recent playtest.]
    I had different options in case the players were solo or in a group, different power levels, etc. I had a scenario with Mysterio staging a kidnapping with the assistance of the Frightful Four, and I included Sandman and Ms. Marvel II in the lineup. Glad to know that it matched up.

  • @Awesoman
    @Awesoman 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It would seem that Sharon was created just to pretty much be tormented throughout the character's history. She just could never catch a break.

    • @leewinters8245
      @leewinters8245 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Last I heard she was turned into a more hideous she thing by Doom and then basically forgotten. The fantastic four abandoned her.

  • @MrKD1970
    @MrKD1970 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That particular Thing series (the 1st actually) is a real underrated gem. The entire series with the possible exception of the final issue was great. A few other heroes also originally got their powers from the power broker (U.S. Agent & Battlestar). Another great video. I'd love to see a Battlestar video as he never gets any love. Also Jinx from the original Darkhold series would be nice. Thank again for the great work .

  • @quinteson2853
    @quinteson2853 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Power Broker Process is pretty interesting to me. It's got a 50-50 chance to wind up "stronger than Spider Man" (We all know Pete's got a heroism bonus in times of extreme need and goes well above his listed 10-25 tons even not counting that time an artist didn't realize a subway car was SIXTY tons and had him casually tossing one around like it was only a Bus.) But you'd think they could just genetically screen people for compatibility rather than YOLO it and have to take care of a bunch of super-strong mutated freaks.

  • @Ixapter
    @Ixapter 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the info. I did read the FF comics in which she (mostly) was the She-Thing.

  • @MarvNARK
    @MarvNARK 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm seriously curious as to how she came down from her still mutating condition after Fantastic Four Unlimited# 5.

  • @sawtooth808
    @sawtooth808 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sharon Ventura also appeared in Civil War:Frontline as a member of Captain America’s Resistance in human form as well. I think it depends on the writers using Ms.Marvel/Sharon at the time (which have been Paul Jenkins for CW:FL, and Nick Spencer for that Sam Wilson Captain America that Unlimited Class Wrestling was used)

  • @robshimer
    @robshimer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In the New Fantastic four, with Ant-Man and Medusa, there was a Ms. Thing she wore that suit that Ben did when he had no powers.

  • @Supremmo
    @Supremmo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’m thinking she somehow discovered how to transform between her rocky and normal form.

  • @roguefrogger5823
    @roguefrogger5823 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video man, huge deep dive. Always liked her character. 🤓

  • @zeltrax8767
    @zeltrax8767 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    History of Warren Worthington plz

  • @AstroSpark3
    @AstroSpark3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Can you do marvels scarecrow and sleepwalker and wonder man …hella underrated characters

  • @charleshemphill6923
    @charleshemphill6923 ปีที่แล้ว

    That clears THINGS up I was always confused by this one.

  • @Theye101499
    @Theye101499 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lonely Ms. Marvel with tiny arm at 17:08 is such a mood 😭

  • @robphoenix1182
    @robphoenix1182 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you. This video filled a lot of spaces for some of my FF gaps I hadn't got to read/find yet.

  • @McMahonHater
    @McMahonHater 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    00:18:20 That's pretty brutal considering Johnny is both Ben's friend and her teammate. Some how I don't think Ventura and Chrystal got along to well.

  • @kyleeartist2829
    @kyleeartist2829 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, didnt expect such a convoluted history!

  • @Supremmo
    @Supremmo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I kinda wish there was a story where Carol and Kamala meet Sharon.

  • @leavonfletcher4197
    @leavonfletcher4197 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ventura Highway
    In the sunshine
    Where the days are longer
    The nights are stronger
    Than moonshine
    I'm gonna go
    I know.

  • @billrules8716
    @billrules8716 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I always liked Sharon Ventura. A fun character who has gone missing.

  • @Jamesalec63
    @Jamesalec63 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This version of She Thing/Mis Marvel could be someone to enter the MCU but the original version or possibly slightly different version and it would be interesting to discover whether she has similar origins or perhaps something alien origins or the other the Power Brokers have a Hydra connection and In turn alien as well could be explored and one thing in this story is her father did he fake his death or did his name have another connection to the weapon X project or something similar I am sure his name has appeared before this story happened?

  • @darian858
    @darian858 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You have one of the if not the coolest voice
    For narration I've ever heard.
    Love this channel

  • @majinsole8554
    @majinsole8554 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve always known OF her, but never really that much ABOUT her, so thanks!
    ~_~

  • @fatenabu1
    @fatenabu1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I use to only read FF back in the day, when I started Sharon was The Thing

  • @jimkirk4357
    @jimkirk4357 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's amazing how very good the artwork in comics was for a time. Incredible detail and realistic anatomy along with intricate backgrounds. The move toward abstract and childish cartoon drawing is part of the reason I stopped buying them. It's like watching the rise and fall of a civilization.

  • @debbralehrman5957
    @debbralehrman5957 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the history.

  • @YoLeel829
    @YoLeel829 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You should cover Iceman

  • @blackphoenix77
    @blackphoenix77 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's really annoying that The Thing's first mutation in the final issues of his own title was resolved off panel. And Sharon Ventura really should have gotten some therapy after her assault by the Power Broker's men. Also I hope Marvel Legends eventually makes toys out of Ben's spiked form and both of Sharon's Ms. Marvel forms

  • @marqebony7689
    @marqebony7689 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't think he made a mistake. I believe he's going to play the male version of the character "Aunty Freeze." Someone strongly connected to "The Power Broker and the inventor of the ORIGINAL Ms Marvel (Sharon Ventura). Mutans were genetically created by the power broker in that reality.

  • @jackieanderson9408
    @jackieanderson9408 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sweet 👍

  • @vasglorious
    @vasglorious 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a sad story Sharon Ventura lived through.

  • @scottmurphy3018
    @scottmurphy3018 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanx for that. i lost track of Sharon after she became She-thing

  • @NorrinRadd2077
    @NorrinRadd2077 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do the Silver Surfer next 👍👍👍

  • @sird2333
    @sird2333 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Genes-Vell is the ONLY person who deserves to use the Captain Marvel title!

  • @johnmichaelbeck2097
    @johnmichaelbeck2097 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember that issue with Fasaud. Wondering if he ever came back for some more shenanigans?

  • @caesardragin2063
    @caesardragin2063 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you add blue marvel or hyperion or sentry to the list please?

  • @jeanemlicar
    @jeanemlicar ปีที่แล้ว

    I still own the Fantastic Four Issue where Mrs. Marvel became the She-Thing in my collection.

  • @NeroLeMorte
    @NeroLeMorte 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The best ms marvel

  • @nicestguy1
    @nicestguy1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    really nice

  • @andreworr4307
    @andreworr4307 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I enjoyed that man,thanks for that,i always had a soft spot for sharon ventura,she had a bad time of it but kept at it no matter what

  • @eyeseer1
    @eyeseer1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    She-Thing isn’t a great name for Sharon Ventura but I would think her name Rockheart, Red Marvel, or Rocksteady would work well.

  • @johnstewart3737
    @johnstewart3737 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It’s amazing how MCU has completely erased the Kree warrior CPT MARVELL. MSHEU as always!!

  • @jorgem.1564
    @jorgem.1564 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man, I really like Sharon Ventura as the new Ms. Marvel. Never really cared for Carol Danvers for some reason. Sad, to see how Sharon's story played out.

  • @trexadvent4726
    @trexadvent4726 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you do origin of the Grim Reaper, Molecule Man, Sentry, Mr Immortal, Captain Universe, Dreadknight, Hypnotia, Blizzard, Starhawk, Flerken, Whirlwind, Chemistro, Whiplash, Ronan the Accuser, Ego the Living Planet, the Living Tribunal and Super_Skrull along with Avenger-X and the Protector?

  • @relickeep
    @relickeep 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    She is at the end of the Thing solo series.

  • @jahipalmer8782
    @jahipalmer8782 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome

  • @mickeymouse7726
    @mickeymouse7726 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you do a history of video on the legion of monsters

  • @coolitnow0013
    @coolitnow0013 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Career criminal Curtis Jackson?
    Yo 50 cent sure got around.

  • @trexadvent4726
    @trexadvent4726 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you do origin of the Brood, the Gladiator, Hyperion, Blue_Marvel, Alistair Smythe the Ultimate Spider Slayer, Stingray, Quasar, Squirrel_Girl, Ultimus, Kly'bn, Kang the Conqueror, Annihilus and Tryco Slatterus the Champion of the Universe?

  • @trexadvent4726
    @trexadvent4726 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is Sharon Ventura Ms Marvel turning into a version of the Thing similar to Frankie Raye as a version of the Human Torch? Can you do history of Frankie Raye?

  • @Penfold497
    @Penfold497 ปีที่แล้ว

    The BETTER Ms. Marvel. They should bring her back.

  • @trexadvent4726
    @trexadvent4726 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Since you did the History of the Mandarin and Fin_Fang_Foom, can you do history of Ultimo as well as the Shang-Chi villain known as the Death_Dealer?

  • @leewinters8245
    @leewinters8245 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The fantastic four abandoned her.

  • @matthewschwartz6607
    @matthewschwartz6607 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Does Marvel STILL have Godzilla ? I have an issue or two of the older comics . Also, I think that Scourge is pronounced SCORGE, not SKERGE! This is cool, I was introduced to Sharon when she was She-Thing (And with the FF.). I never read any of her original stories . Thanks for doing the background.

    • @fad23
      @fad23 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Scourge is pronounced correctly in the video.

  • @scottdoesntmatter4409
    @scottdoesntmatter4409 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Apparently, Sharon is much more dextrous in her human form, but in She Thing form, she's even MORE of a brick and her intelligence seems to increase to genius levels. She's also got lots of mundane skills, like gymnast, wrestler, motorcycle stunt rider, scuba and skydiver, mountain climber, stuntwoman, and Tae Kwon Do and American boxing. Oh, and her senses and ability to hold her breath are greatly extended in her She Thing form.

  • @trexadvent4726
    @trexadvent4726 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you do history of the characters mentioned in this video?

  • @simonjonwatson7706
    @simonjonwatson7706 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Video suggestion
    Cable/Styfe/X-Man

  • @jalenikezeue4114
    @jalenikezeue4114 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can we please have The Origin of The D-MAN

  • @AmityvilleFan
    @AmityvilleFan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    But how is she related to ACE Ventura?

  • @DerekWill-qp5ge
    @DerekWill-qp5ge ปีที่แล้ว

    She thing needs to come back

  • @jeffreyroberts4156
    @jeffreyroberts4156 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have you got any information on Jessica Jones? She seems a mystery to me within the Marvel universe.

  • @clintclark-duke5585
    @clintclark-duke5585 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    She had the best legs in the Marvel Universe

  • @NeroLeMorte
    @NeroLeMorte 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    They should have given her a tv series over kamala khan.

  • @Rediphone21
    @Rediphone21 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wild

  • @nicholasalonzo7824
    @nicholasalonzo7824 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, I thought that she was dead, in the Marvel Universe... I'm glad i was wrong

  • @DjDoxastic
    @DjDoxastic 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i picture her having jesse venturas voice

  • @gavyncarter9461
    @gavyncarter9461 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I never would of thought the power broker was 50 cent

  • @briandaleske5139
    @briandaleske5139 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I imagine in a different dimension, this classic version of (MS. MARVEL) aka (Sharon Ventura) exists in it, and I imagine it might be in the EARTH-6 Realm, or it might be in the EARTH-60 Realm.

  • @Janzer_
    @Janzer_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    operation remove all redheads

  • @quinteson2853
    @quinteson2853 ปีที่แล้ว

    26:25 wait didn't Days of Future Past Franklin die in the very first issue?

  • @KellyClement
    @KellyClement 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Has Ben had that problem on other planets other than Battleworld?

  • @SheriffOutlaw
    @SheriffOutlaw 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey I remember her! Where has she been?

    • @ArticulatedDoom
      @ArticulatedDoom 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Last I remember she was She-Thing, but don't remember what happened to her

    • @blackphoenix77
      @blackphoenix77 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      She's been appearing sporadically in Fantastic Four

    • @ArticulatedDoom
      @ArticulatedDoom 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@blackphoenix77 as the female thing or in her human form? And can she control it or she's stuck like Ben?