One of the directors of Airstream was recently talking about the popularity of these units (mostly due to all the social media buzz about RVing) and said: "We are building them as fast as we can" in an effort to meet demand. That is NEVER a good thing!
There are 3 ways to build something; good, fast and cheap. You can only have 3. If you build it fast and good, it won't be cheap. If you build it cheap and good, it won't be cheap. If you build it fast and cheap, it won't be good.
Hahahaha. Not at you at all. I bought a brand new palomino back pack. Lol. Plumbing wasn't hooked up from factory. So when I pulled plug for dishes. Yep woosh. Flooded floor. Pissed. Awning on back fell apart. Lol. Roof came apart under membrane. Other things. So I know your pain. Junk.
@@sarahann530 I guess it's no one's fault but my own. To be honest it was my first buy and I really didn't know what to be looking for when I bought it. Cause I just figured everything would be good that's all. I've got the thing lined out for the time being. I guess when you buy something that's brand new you'd think things would be somewhat rite. Its nobodies fault but mine. I'll just take more time at looking at my next purchase.
True! We had the same discoloring after our 1st year...5 years later a soft spot...short story, leak from outside shower. We never saw water but had to replace the entire floor...6K - Insurance said normal wear & tear and paid zero. Get it fixed under warranty - disconnect the outside shower!
Thanks for the honest sharing of your experience. It tells a lot about Airstream's quality control these days. Airstream seems to live off of their faded fame from the past and is no longer so much an innovator in RV world. With the same money, look for other alternatives with better build quality. Take care of yourselves and the baby!
Airstreams are lovely but I recently watched a walk through by a rep who really knows the product and there were so many things that were a risk to the end user or could be broken by the end user or were just bad design when they mentioned the awning at the end that was one. They need to raise their game because they’re selling a supposedly high end product but the quality is not there.
Was thinking the same. Any water that's left outside the edge of the sink may wick down between the sink and the countertop and drip into the drawer below. Sealing the sink would be one option, but in the interim you'll want to keep the area around the sink dry.
Airstream is / was at the top of the line. I was researching the class B models in their line. But stopped after seeing this. I don't gamble. Sorry you guys had to go thru all that.
I have owned many different trailers over the years including an Airstream which I still use regularly and its like new at 12 years old. Like anything else there is normal wear and tear with usage. I am pretty handy at most things but stuff like rivets and leaks take it back to the dealer and they can handle it and will honor the warranty.
Actually most airstreamers we know to purchase a rivet gun (cheap) as it's extremely common to lose some here and there and super easy to replace. We would never make a trip to the dealer just for a popped rivet. Newbies, listen up! A popped rivet has no bearing on the quality or structural integrity of the airstream. There are over 4000 of them!
Thanks for sharing. I do not full time but have owned an Airstream for 8 years. Basically any RV has issues if you use them and some if you don't! They are a labor of love. Your list has four third party issues that is equipment on any RV- failures of fan, stove, blind, batteries, etc. The other items are more "Airstream" issues- rivets, sink, drawer, floor. The most concerning to me is the floor issue. Hopefully it is not anything too bad.
Did the floor put them in the hospital? That's the issue what would be most concerning to me. Legionnaires disease? Carbon monoxide poisoning? Who knows.
Wow. So many things gone wrong! Especially the leaking stove or refrigerator that put you two in the hospital. But your attitudes are so positive. 👍🏼 Are you returning the airstream for a refund? Or are you getting the things fixed? And if returning it, what are you going to continue your journey in?
I pray all is well with your health and the pregnancy!! Congratulations 🎉🎊! I just looked at Airstream yesterday! Please update on repairs. Also, where’s the dog, is he ok? I trust Airstream will do right by you for the repairs. Honestly, maybe even swap out the coach for another since that one had major health risks. Glad you two are better. Keep us posted. Stay safe! God Bless you! 🙏✌️
Videos like this and other videos have convinced me to NOT buy an airstream....or any rv for that matter. All the fanpeople on the facebook airstream forums somehow think its ok to pay what one pays for an airstream and get problems like this. Airstream really has a huge quality control issue. That whole cooling system is new and has major issues. Get ready for airstream to deflect on that mold or whatever issue.... Best of luck to you guys...keep us posted.
Congratulations on your pregnancy! It's sad to hear about the trauma with the Airstream, but so great that you've documented the specific areas. Good luck!
All those things should be fixed, if you don't fix them, in a year the whole trailer could fall apart, good job you guys.most owner just let's things go!
Overpriced junk. Nothing is built like it used to be. I'm 58 and when I was younger if you bought something and took care of it it lasted for years. I still have a 3/8 Craftsman drill I bought when I was 18. Nothing they they make today compares to the quality of yesterday.
We’ve been enjoying your videos for a little while now. Keep after it. Please make a video about the dealership’s response and diagnosis to those problems.
Literally thinking about picking up a 16ft unit this weekend. I guess we’ll see! Thanks for the video guys! So glad you guys are ok! (Low key I’d be suing airstream at that point for the ER situation especially since your planning on conceiving)
I am glad I saw this report. I was thinking about buying an airstream 20X but I will hold off and explore other options. Thanks for the heads up on those issues.
Very important video, thank you! Please give us an update on what airstream says about the floor stain (and how they fixed it), and the refrigerator/stove leak and what it was. God bless you guys! Good luck.
Great! Great! Video, Congratulations on your baby to come. Thanks for keeping a unbiased view, I really am looking into getting an Airstream, thanks again.look forward to more and want to see how Airstream makes your issues right.
Im new to your journey. I wanted to say you two are real about your camper and I appreciate it because i want a camper but not sure what to get. Good luck on your journey and keep posting. God bless you both, be safe and enjoy life.
wow! Thanks for making this video! I always regarded Airstream as a well made RV compared to others 'cause of their price and looks. I guess theyre just the same with others, poorly made, lack QA and R & D. We have a Class B for 2 years now and its pretty much well shaken off of its problems. It had problems like yours that we fixed. RV industry is just disappointing when it comes to their build quality. But more important is you guys are ok and enjoy exploring North America. Happy and Safe Motoring!
Thx for the video. I hope that Airstream fixed your trailer and made everything right for you (replaced the window shade, fixed the fan, re-rivet the rivets, etc), especially with regards to the potential gas leak problem. Congrats on the baby, and you guys are going to make great parents.
Wow. Isn’t Airstreams high price tag supposed to be justified by the best quality? This seems like a piece of junk. And considering this has posed a serious health risk, I would never consider getting one. Thanks for the honest video! This definitely steered me away...
Because of the high demand, I believe airstream is rushing production so there will be some problems like this. Still airstreams are the best rvs by comparison.
In 2013 Thor bought Airstream and doubled their production from 30 units a month to 60. I don't know where these units are, I only see a couple on the highway. And never see them in campgrounds. Our 1988 Airstream is supper well built and as spacious as a new 90k unit. Yes we have "Remodeled" the inside but it is way better than these new units. Folks that see it can't believe it's 33 years old. We've put about 4k into it after the purchase so all in we're at 16k. Similar units are selling for double that. Keep it stored out of the sun, this will really help the clear stay on longer. Popping rivets is an ongoing thing, by a hand rivet gun and keep some rivets on hand. Just a nature of the beast. So if Airstream is a high level of quality imagine how crappy non-Airstream campers are.
I'm another year away from owning my 1st RV. I have been researching Airstream, and I am so thankful you guys posted this because I need to see the pros and cons of all potential brands out there. Here's hoping the best to you 2 and I sincerely hope your child is a healthy one! Your positive attitude is indeed inspiring!
Dan. I spent 16 years researching and then bought one. Airstreams hold their value unlike other travel trailers. Size does matter. Mine is a 16BR. I would get the 19 or 22 if I had the choice. But since I have a 16 the trade in value is great! Need to get a vehicle that can tow it. So, keep that in mind. The issues in the video are valid, but more cosmetic. But easily fixable. Just as long as structurally and mechanically it doesn't have issues.
We love our airstreamflyingcloud we are truly enjoying it. Your problems are very minor you could have probably fixed all of them yourself but if under warranty take advantage the only problem is you have to leave your rig. We replaced our batteries with lithium everything else has been great. Sorry for your troubles
The problem is - the problems should never happen to begin with!! Yeah, repair skills are a us, but, if someone is plunking down big bucks for a mediocre product - I'll pass. I'm glad I am reminded to not buy this brand, however the RVs look. As someone else mentioned, Airstream is riding on its past reputation, and is no longer worth the hype.
Sorry to see so many things are going south on the Airstream. Back in the day (I'm old) Airstreams were top quality. These days it's probably safe to say, one can get a lot more value with other RV brands when compared to the pricey Airstreams.
Many people don't get their rigs out for a lot of use right off the bat. Good that you did. You're working through the problems while under warranty. The floor "stain" looks like where you walk as if your walking on it rubbed off a coating of the floor. It stopped at the very point your feet were when you sat on the bed. Definitely great you have a TH-cam channel when you talk to Airstream; they'll have some pressure on them. Please update us -- even if you don't have your rig back. Airstream wants good pr out here in TH-cam land. Great video!
Thanks for pointing out the problems on airstream so people can see. I went looking to buy an airstream a year ago but saw the quality was so poor. If your paying big bucks you should get better quality. I had a pleasure way RV and the cabinets are so much nicer in the pleasure way. In the airstream they were crap.
My wife and I own a 2020 airstream I remember reading the owner's manual airstream highly recommends that you do not live in your airstream because of air quality issues, use it only as a vacational unit part time and ventilate ventilate ventilate . We love ours we are out once a mouth from 4 to 7 days traveling the south western states . Good luck with the little one coming.
Airstream does not advertise their product as a expensive only use one a month travel trailer. Actually their Which Travel Trailer is Right for You quiz asks "How long would your ideal Airstream adventure last? with one of the choices being 'Planning to live in it for an extended time. The results of my quiz was not one of their large Travel Trailers but the Sport. So I would be pretty ticked off to spend $62K on a travel trailer to be advised AFTER purchase to only use it once in a while
Tracy rowan in the 2020 airstream owners manual page 3-8 paragraph title effects of prolonged occupancy (your trailer was designed primarily for recreational use and short -term occupancy .) Page 2.2 titled chemical sensitivity and ventilation talks about off-gassing of formaldehyde this is important if you have children or have a history of lung problems. Formaldehyde is used in carpet , linoleum , plywood etc. Airstream states ventilation before you go while traveling etc. All this info is in the 2020 owner manual . Wouldn't it be nice if people would do some research before open their mouth and talk crap.
Did you get the owners manual to review completely prior to purchase? If not then you're only being informed of their "suggested use" after you've laid out $62,000.
@@tracyrowan6460 This conversation prompted me to Google "Airstream Owners Manual" and they're all online at www.airstream.com/owners/manuals/. The 2021 Caravel manual is currently available here: www.airstream.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/2021-Caravel-Owners-Manual.pdf As David describes, from the Caravel manual, page 2-2, there is a section on ventilation. Also, on page 3-7 there is a section titled "Extended Stay" while on page 3-9 there is a bolded note: * Your trailer is not designed, nor intended, for permanent housing. Use of this product for long-term or permanent occupancy may lead to premature deterioration of structure, interior finishes, fabrics, carpeting, and drapes. Damage or deterioration due to long-term occupancy may not be considered normal, and may, under the terms of the warranty, constitute misuse, abuse, or neglect, and may therefore reduce the warranty protection. * It's certainly worth considering this stuff if planning to use one for long periods.
Regarding you not feeling well. From your description it looks like a typical “air conditioning disease”, I experienced it many time in various parts of the world. When you run air conditioner a lot in humid climate, some sort of bacteria start to develop in the air conditioner and they make you feel sick exactly as you described. The only way to get rid of it is to treat the air conditioning cooling unit with special disinfecting chemicals. In theory that should be done with any air conditioning unit at least once a year, but most people and manufacturers don’t do it
Loctite threadlocker will keep the awning part from screwing loose en route. We heard about it on the Airstream Addicts FB page and put some on before leaving the dealership. Awning straps also help with the vibration that shakes those screws loose. Hopefully all repairs will be done correctly and within a reasonable timeframe.
@@cookingwithjesus We use our awning, so I'm clearly thinking of another part of the awning. We used it on screws that go into the body not the knob that needs to be loosened.
The floor (biggest issue IMO) and propane (if you are uncomfortable with checking connections) are really the only issues you have for the dealer. The rest, including rivets, kinda sounds like 2-3 hours in the driveway. Glad you are having fun.
Hey guys so sorry you are having trouble with chill pill 😌. Listen as a RVer. Unfortunately as you know things with happen , but it’s to early in the game. Hope your warranty is still active . Be adamant , but tactful. Lol about your repairs. Make sure you read your warranty and highlight those points. Ok stay safe and well. Looking for more news and update. Happy RVing. ⛺️🚋
Wow I was really excited to purchase one, but now I want to know if they are going to warranty your issues, the one that really scared me was the Propane issue that you had. Thank you for all your guidance and wisdom about your trip.
Nice job on the review... My wife and I are looking at similar but most likely something with the split bathroom size. I would say that your findings are all valid no-doubt and those that downplay any of that, well just do not understand what quality is supposed to mean... especially when you are getting into an Airstream. (The comments about spare rivets.... general need to know how to fix things in general. Sorry I claim the BS card there. Would someone say the same when they pay 50K for a car. no). The stain on the floor, and the fumes from the ref area would be an immediate need to return and/or replace though... Rivets on coming undone is poor quality control on AS part. You would hope AS takes a look at things like this and attempts to fix. Good luck, you did it right!
Wow.. guys i wish you Good luck on your baby.. yes you need to be secure and have something safe for the baby when arrives. I hope you guys get what your looking for... Lots of Blessings. And stay safe...Thanks for the video.. and just yersterday i was looking a Bambi Airstream..
Sorry to hear about the troubles you've had with your Caravel Airstream. Otherwise, it seems like a nice trailer. And it was a well done video. Thanks for uploading.
Fast forward to 2:22 if you want to see their list. Fan: Its working. 2 rivets loose. Not a big deal Stove gaskets. Not seeing this a a world ender Sink is moving. A drawer moisture issue. Looks like something spilled inside. Owner issue Stain on the floor. Possibly from the AC unit use or overuse? Need a rug. Bathroom exhaust doesn't work. Check the fuse? bathroom pull down blind doesn't work. Maybe because the shower has something to do with it? Batteries life span issue. Don't know if they are living in this 25/8 while boondocking? Shore power to recharge? Sick? Frig or propane tank fumes? Sounds like a leak. Awning hook missing. Not seeing an issue with your Caravel. Easily fixable. I have a 2016 is great shape if you want to trade.
Sorry to hear you had a bad experience! If you get another travel trailer and use the stock flooded / wet or AGM batteries again - I'd suggest never letting them drop below 50% unless there's an emergency. Otherwise you compromise their lifespan and reduce the overall charge capacity. If you were to replace them with lithium they don't have that issue, but colder temperatures can cause charging problems.
Wow. I am sorry to hear that you two have had so much trouble. Hope you get things repaired and safe. Not sure if you’ve had other trailers, but when compared to many, Airstream is a better build overall. I mean, it doesn’t hold a candle to Living Vehicle (LV)... but those are $$$$$$.
Thanks for a good, honest video. RV quality in general is poor; sorry to hear that Airstream is just as bad as the rest. Traveling, living in an RV is a constant maintenance and repair task. Components seem to be chosen from lowest cost bidders, not for durability and, quality. They look great on the showroom, and start rattling apart the first mile down the road The engineering is very poor considering that these are mobile units that do take a bearing down the road; it starts with the frame and suspension systems; light weight is chosen over ruggedness. No, they don’t have to be built with the strength of a tank or armored personnel carrier, but neither should they be built a child’s dollhouse. Diligently perform your daily/weekly maintenance; even in the best of RVs this is necessary if you want to save yourselves headaches. RV manufacturers need to do their part, but so do owners.%
Well, we have been streaming for 33yrs, the first thing you realize...you better be willing & able to fix things. It sounds like this is an adventure and not a lifestyle for you...but still, learn to fix. We were at the "Mothership" August 24, hope they got everything taken care of for you, Sweet Streams
completely agree - this goes for any type of RV. one year my electric tongue jack stopped working while at a campsite - another year i had a blowout on the highway, another time had the refrigerator stop working which was a fuse issue, fixing rivets is common and can be done by the owner - none of these were specific to the airstream itself (except the rivets) but the point is be prepared for anything, read the airstream and dometic manual several times, carry spare parts/fuses/extinguisher, make sure you know how to use the jack to access the spare tire or manually turn the tongue, etc.
We had exactly the same problem with the propane in our 2018 Sport (predecessor to Bambi and Caravel). Fortunately we could smell the propane before we had symptoms (so sorry!). We took it in also. The issue was with a broken Dometic cooktop. It took our dealer 3 or 4 different cooktops to get one that didn’t do the same thing. Seems to be a Dometic, not Airstream issue.
That was all very interesting ...., that was a lot of small things that "together" is a big deal. We might replace our floor with some actual wood flooring
Don't pay an arm and a leg for a brand new RV or fancy name brand. We purchased a 28' 7 years ago that didn't have anywhere near this amount of problems for probably 1/4-1/3 of the cost of this RV. It's still working well today. Our batteries were purchased back then and we haven't replaced them yet. Never had a gas leak, air conditioning works. Nothing overly fancy in ours. I suggest buying newer used because the bugs will be worked out. We did have a leak in our outdoor kitchen last year but that was a problem with winterizing and a fairly easy fix.
Hi!!!! My bf says he saw you guys today at planet fitness lollll and noting that you guys said you're back in florida i'm assuming it's true! Welcome back!!
That’s a bummer. Hopefully you’ll get the technical issues sorted out. Seeing those pano windows in the morning and working at the dinette gotta be a big plus. I’m looking at small trailers like this for travel and work and I can’t see living in a small windowless shell. Keep us up to date on your progress.
Fallen rivets are one thing, but a new RV sending its occupants to an ER? Man, I hope you retained a lawyer before taking it back to Airstream. Good luck with your journey and thanks for your service to the country. You guys are the cutest couple on TH-cam as others have said.
If I recall, those batteries are not Lithium, the fact you are draining them below 50% (AGM batteries) you will kill the lifespan of the battery. Hence why it doesn’t last long for you.
I hope Airstream has a good warranty with that exorbitant price. I would love to own one, but I would never pay such a high price. Thank you for sharing this story.
So smart to get this on record before you go to Airstream.
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One of the directors of Airstream was recently talking about the popularity of these units (mostly due to all the social media buzz about RVing) and said: "We are building them as fast as we can" in an effort to meet demand. That is NEVER a good thing!
There are 3 ways to build something; good, fast and cheap. You can only have 3. If you build it fast and good, it won't be cheap. If you build it cheap and good, it won't be cheap. If you build it fast and cheap, it won't be good.
Hahahaha. Not at you at all. I bought a brand new palomino back pack. Lol. Plumbing wasn't hooked up from factory. So when I pulled plug for dishes. Yep woosh. Flooded floor. Pissed. Awning on back fell apart. Lol. Roof came apart under membrane. Other things. So I know your pain. Junk.
@@brucehall5267 So you didn't do a pdi before delivery, why not ?
@@sarahann530 I guess it's no one's fault but my own. To be honest it was my first buy and I really didn't know what to be looking for when I bought it. Cause I just figured everything would be good that's all. I've got the thing lined out for the time being. I guess when you buy something that's brand new you'd think things would be somewhat rite. Its nobodies fault but mine. I'll just take more time at looking at my next purchase.
Unfortunately that's the case for most RVs right now.
Stain on floor equals water and mold under that flooring-that's dangerous too!
True! We had the same discoloring after our 1st year...5 years later a soft spot...short story, leak from outside shower. We never saw water but had to replace the entire floor...6K - Insurance said normal wear & tear and paid zero. Get it fixed under warranty - disconnect the outside shower!
@anthropeg1978 That's the first thing I thought of...mold!
It’s from them using a rug with a rubber backing, guaranteed.
To me it just looks like a wear pattern.
Thanks for the honest sharing of your experience. It tells a lot about Airstream's quality control these days. Airstream seems to live off of their faded fame from the past and is no longer so much an innovator in RV world. With the same money, look for other alternatives with better build quality. Take care of yourselves and the baby!
Check the fuse on your bathroom exhaust fan. If you operate the fan with vent closed you’ll burn out the fuse.
Airstreams are lovely but I recently watched a walk through by a rep who really knows the product and there were so many things that were a risk to the end user or could be broken by the end user or were just bad design when they mentioned the awning at the end that was one. They need to raise their game because they’re selling a supposedly high end product but the quality is not there.
Because your sink does not have sealant around it, water is probably going into the drawer and making the stains from your spices.
Was thinking the same. Any water that's left outside the edge of the sink may wick down between the sink and the countertop and drip into the drawer below. Sealing the sink would be one option, but in the interim you'll want to keep the area around the sink dry.
Airstream is / was at the top of the line. I was researching the class B models in their line. But stopped after seeing this. I don't gamble. Sorry you guys had to go thru all that.
That’s really scary! I’m glad your both okay.
Damn! The airstream was supposed to be the #1! I guess that let’s me know that high quality is scarce these days . Well damn .
Please post an update on these repairs and the costs involved or if covered by warranty. Potential customers would like to know. 😉
Did you buy?
Update please.
I second this motion!
Cost of repair, hell no if I was you I would sue them and made them pay form the hospital expenses
I have owned many different trailers over the years including an Airstream which I still use regularly and its like new at 12 years old. Like anything else there is normal wear and tear with usage. I am pretty handy at most things but stuff like rivets and leaks take it back to the dealer and they can handle it and will honor the warranty.
Actually most airstreamers we know to purchase a rivet gun (cheap) as it's extremely common to lose some here and there and super easy to replace. We would never make a trip to the dealer just for a popped rivet. Newbies, listen up! A popped rivet has no bearing on the quality or structural integrity of the airstream. There are over 4000 of them!
@@sueswister9135 this is great to know. Thank you
Someone saying they’re handy but they can’t replace a rivet 😂
@@notanailtech9761 funny professional rivet guys are better at the dealer and install for free.
Thanks for sharing. I do not full time but have owned an Airstream for 8 years. Basically any RV has issues if you use them and some if you don't! They are a labor of love. Your list has four third party issues that is equipment on any RV- failures of fan, stove, blind, batteries, etc. The other items are more "Airstream" issues- rivets, sink, drawer, floor. The most concerning to me is the floor issue. Hopefully it is not anything too bad.
Did the floor put them in the hospital? That's the issue what would be most concerning to me. Legionnaires disease? Carbon monoxide poisoning? Who knows.
Wow. So many things gone wrong! Especially the leaking stove or refrigerator that put you two in the hospital. But your attitudes are so positive. 👍🏼 Are you returning the airstream for a refund? Or are you getting the things fixed? And if returning it, what are you going to continue your journey in?
IMO quality is the most important factor in selecting a product. I hope these issues are resolved and everything is well with you guys.
I pray all is well with your health and the pregnancy!! Congratulations 🎉🎊! I just looked at Airstream yesterday! Please update on repairs. Also, where’s the dog, is he ok? I trust Airstream will do right by you for the repairs. Honestly, maybe even swap out the coach for another since that one had major health risks. Glad you two are better. Keep us posted. Stay safe! God Bless you! 🙏✌️
I would ask for a new Airstream. No negotiations! This one is a lemon and thanks for the warning!
Videos like this and other videos have convinced me to NOT buy an airstream....or any rv for that matter.
All the fanpeople on the facebook airstream forums somehow think its ok to pay what one pays for an airstream and get problems like this.
Airstream really has a huge quality control issue.
That whole cooling system is new and has major issues.
Get ready for airstream to deflect on that mold or whatever issue....
Best of luck to you guys...keep us posted.
Your blind in the bathroom might have been pulled too low, if you take it off and reroll it up it might then work.
You all are the cutest couple, congratulations on the baby. God bless you all
Way to many issues for both price and only 5 months out! I’ll not be getting one of these!
Congratulations on your pregnancy! It's sad to hear about the trauma with the Airstream, but so great that you've documented the specific areas. Good luck!
All those things should be fixed, if you don't fix them, in a year the whole trailer could fall apart, good job you guys.most owner just let's things go!
Overpriced junk. Nothing is built like it used to be. I'm 58 and when I was younger if you bought something and took care of it it lasted for years. I still have a 3/8 Craftsman drill I bought when I was 18. Nothing they they make today compares to the quality of yesterday.
Corporate Greed comes to mind, that and Chinese crap parts!!
Fruits of deregulations and outsourcing.🙄
We’ve been enjoying your videos for a little while now. Keep after it. Please make a video about the dealership’s response and diagnosis to those problems.
Literally thinking about picking up a 16ft unit this weekend. I guess we’ll see! Thanks for the video guys! So glad you guys are ok! (Low key I’d be suing airstream at that point for the ER situation especially since your planning on conceiving)
I am glad I saw this report. I was thinking about buying an airstream 20X but I will hold off and explore other options. Thanks for the heads up on those issues.
Very important video, thank you! Please give us an update on what airstream says about the floor stain (and how they fixed it), and the refrigerator/stove leak and what it was.
God bless you guys! Good luck.
Great! Great! Video, Congratulations on your baby to come. Thanks for keeping a unbiased view, I really am looking into getting an Airstream, thanks again.look forward to more and want to see how Airstream makes your issues right.
Great video. Very helpful in trying to figure out what Airstream is right for me. Thank you and good luck with your baby!🌷
Im new to your journey. I wanted to say you two are real about your camper and I appreciate it because i want a camper but not sure what to get. Good luck on your journey and keep posting. God bless you both, be safe and enjoy life.
Wishing you all the the best. Hope that everything gets resolved soon. Take care..
Thanks for all that. It's good to know what to look for if I get one
wow! Thanks for making this video! I always regarded Airstream as a well made RV compared to others 'cause of their price and looks. I guess theyre just the same with others, poorly made, lack QA and R & D. We have a Class B for 2 years now and its pretty much well shaken off of its problems. It had problems like yours that we fixed. RV industry is just disappointing when it comes to their build quality. But more important is you guys are ok and enjoy exploring North America. Happy and Safe Motoring!
Thx for the video. I hope that Airstream fixed your trailer and made everything right for you (replaced the window shade, fixed the fan, re-rivet the rivets, etc), especially with regards to the potential gas leak problem. Congrats on the baby, and you guys are going to make great parents.
Wow. Isn’t Airstreams high price tag supposed to be justified by the best quality? This seems like a piece of junk. And considering this has posed a serious health risk, I would never consider getting one. Thanks for the honest video! This definitely steered me away...
Because of the high demand, I believe airstream is rushing production so there will be some problems like this. Still airstreams are the best rvs by comparison.
In 2013 Thor bought Airstream and doubled their production from 30 units a month to 60. I don't know where these units are, I only see a couple on the highway. And never see them in campgrounds. Our 1988 Airstream is supper well built and as spacious as a new 90k unit. Yes we have "Remodeled" the inside but it is way better than these new units. Folks that see it can't believe it's 33 years old. We've put about 4k into it after the purchase so all in we're at 16k. Similar units are selling for double that. Keep it stored out of the sun, this will really help the clear stay on longer. Popping rivets is an ongoing thing, by a hand rivet gun and keep some rivets on hand. Just a nature of the beast. So if Airstream is a high level of quality imagine how crappy non-Airstream campers are.
Cost does not = quality. Keep that in mind in the RV industry. Be sure to check the specs and what parts they are using.
I'm another year away from owning my 1st RV. I have been researching Airstream, and I am so thankful you guys posted this because I need to see the pros and cons of all potential brands out there. Here's hoping the best to you 2 and I sincerely hope your child is a healthy one! Your positive attitude is indeed inspiring!
Dan. I spent 16 years researching and then bought one. Airstreams hold their value unlike other travel trailers. Size does matter. Mine is a 16BR. I would get the 19 or 22 if I had the choice. But since I have a 16 the trade in value is great! Need to get a vehicle that can tow it. So, keep that in mind. The issues in the video are valid, but more cosmetic. But easily fixable. Just as long as structurally and mechanically it doesn't have issues.
We love our airstreamflyingcloud we are truly enjoying it. Your problems are very minor you could have probably fixed all of them yourself but if under warranty take advantage the only problem is you have to leave your rig. We replaced our batteries with lithium everything else has been great. Sorry for your troubles
Exactly what i was thinking. You want rv you need to have some repair skills. Switched to lithium too!
The problem is - the problems should never happen to begin with!! Yeah, repair skills are a us, but, if someone is plunking down big bucks for a mediocre product - I'll pass. I'm glad I am reminded to not buy this brand, however the RVs look. As someone else mentioned, Airstream is riding on its past reputation, and is no longer worth the hype.
Propane leak and wet floor “minor”?
Hope you guys continue your videos. I have enjoyed them. Been dreaming on purchasing an Airstream, but after this video, I am not sure.
Thanks for your honesty I’m glad your feeling better
Sorry to see so many things are going south on the Airstream. Back in the day (I'm old) Airstreams were top quality. These days it's probably safe to say, one can get a lot more value with other RV brands when compared to the pricey Airstreams.
Thank you for the video. Very good information
Many people don't get their rigs out for a lot of use right off the bat. Good that you did. You're working through the problems while under warranty. The floor "stain" looks like where you walk as if your walking on it rubbed off a coating of the floor. It stopped at the very point your feet were when you sat on the bed. Definitely great you have a TH-cam channel when you talk to Airstream; they'll have some pressure on them. Please update us -- even if you don't have your rig back. Airstream wants good pr out here in TH-cam land. Great video!
Are there reliable equipment to detect leaking stove/refrigerator? Some hand held equipment that allows us to check on a daily basis?
Did they make the repairs? Everyone wants to know?
Thanks for pointing out the problems on airstream so people can see. I went looking to buy an airstream a year ago but saw the quality was so poor. If your paying big bucks you should get better quality. I had a pleasure way RV and the cabinets are so much nicer in the pleasure way. In the airstream they were crap.
Thank you for the heads-up..
Thanks for sharing, been thinking about getting one due to their “quality” but I think I better do more research and wait for the market to correct
My wife and I own a 2020 airstream I remember reading the owner's manual airstream highly recommends that you do not live in your airstream because of air quality issues, use it only as a vacational unit part time and ventilate ventilate ventilate . We love ours we are out once a mouth from 4 to 7 days traveling the south western states . Good luck with the little one coming.
Airstream does not advertise their product as a expensive only use one a month travel trailer. Actually their Which Travel Trailer is Right for You quiz asks "How long would your ideal Airstream adventure last? with one of the choices being 'Planning to live in it for an extended time. The results of my quiz was not one of their large Travel Trailers but the Sport. So I would be pretty ticked off to spend $62K on a travel trailer to be advised AFTER purchase to only use it once in a while
Tracy rowan in the 2020 airstream owners manual page 3-8 paragraph title effects of prolonged occupancy (your trailer was designed primarily for recreational use and short -term occupancy .) Page 2.2 titled chemical sensitivity and ventilation talks about off-gassing of formaldehyde this is important if you have children or have a history of lung problems. Formaldehyde is used in carpet , linoleum , plywood etc. Airstream states ventilation before you go while traveling etc. All this info is in the 2020 owner manual . Wouldn't it be nice if people would do some research before open their mouth and talk crap.
Did you get the owners manual to review completely prior to purchase? If not then you're only being informed of their "suggested use" after you've laid out $62,000.
@@tracyrowan6460 This conversation prompted me to Google "Airstream Owners Manual" and they're all online at www.airstream.com/owners/manuals/.
The 2021 Caravel manual is currently available here: www.airstream.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/2021-Caravel-Owners-Manual.pdf
As David describes, from the Caravel manual, page 2-2, there is a section on ventilation.
Also, on page 3-7 there is a section titled "Extended Stay" while on page 3-9 there is a bolded note:
* Your trailer is not designed, nor intended, for
permanent housing. Use of this product for long-term or permanent occupancy may lead to premature deterioration of structure, interior finishes, fabrics, carpeting, and drapes. Damage or deterioration due to long-term occupancy may not be considered normal, and may, under the terms of the warranty, constitute misuse, abuse, or neglect, and may therefore reduce the warranty protection. *
It's certainly worth considering this stuff if planning to use one for long periods.
Regarding you not feeling well. From your description it looks like a typical “air conditioning disease”, I experienced it many time in various parts of the world.
When you run air conditioner a lot in humid climate, some sort of bacteria start to develop in the air conditioner and they make you feel sick exactly as you described. The only way to get rid of it is to treat the air conditioning cooling unit with special disinfecting chemicals. In theory that should be done with any air conditioning unit at least once a year, but most people and manufacturers don’t do it
And it can be really serious. ie, Legionnaire's Disease
it could be because the camper has a propane detection sensor that should have alerted them if propane was too high
How terrible about going to the hospital!! That’s serious. Best wishes to you both! I hope you got all your problems worked out!
Loctite threadlocker will keep the awning part from screwing loose en route. We heard about it on the Airstream Addicts FB page and put some on before leaving the dealership. Awning straps also help with the vibration that shakes those screws loose. Hopefully all repairs will be done correctly and within a reasonable timeframe.
N. G. If you loctite that part then good luck ever using the awning. It’s a lockdown knob and has to be loosened to pull the awning down.
@@cookingwithjesus We use our awning, so I'm clearly thinking of another part of the awning. We used it on screws that go into the body not the knob that needs to be loosened.
You’re going to be great parents! Sad so many things went wonky. For as much as Airstreams cost especially. Be careful out there.
I’m so sorry you had to go to the hospital. Scary. Campers are expensive and you have the right to be safe. Glad you both are safe.
The floor (biggest issue IMO) and propane (if you are uncomfortable with checking connections) are really the only issues you have for the dealer. The rest, including rivets, kinda sounds like 2-3 hours in the driveway. Glad you are having fun.
Hey guys so sorry you are having trouble with chill pill 😌. Listen as a RVer. Unfortunately as you know things with happen , but it’s to early in the game. Hope your warranty is still active . Be adamant , but tactful. Lol about your repairs. Make sure you read your warranty and highlight those points. Ok stay safe and well. Looking for more news and update. Happy RVing. ⛺️🚋
Are y’all getting another one or just getting it fixed?
Wow I was really excited to purchase one, but now I want to know if they are going to warranty your issues, the one that really scared me was the Propane issue that you had. Thank you for all your guidance and wisdom about your trip.
Really great vid guys, good look.👍
I am currently in the market for a new Flying Cloud and would appreciate a followup video on Airstreams response to these problems.
Nice job on the review... My wife and I are looking at similar but most likely something with the split bathroom size. I would say that your findings are all valid no-doubt and those that downplay any of that, well just do not understand what quality is supposed to mean... especially when you are getting into an Airstream. (The comments about spare rivets.... general need to know how to fix things in general. Sorry I claim the BS card there. Would someone say the same when they pay 50K for a car. no). The stain on the floor, and the fumes from the ref area would be an immediate need to return and/or replace though... Rivets on coming undone is poor quality control on AS part. You would hope AS takes a look at things like this and attempts to fix. Good luck, you did it right!
you're so right!
Wow.. guys i wish you Good luck on your baby.. yes you need to be secure and have something safe for the baby when arrives. I hope you guys get what your looking for... Lots of Blessings. And stay safe...Thanks for the video.. and just yersterday i was looking a Bambi Airstream..
Sorry to hear about the troubles you've had with your Caravel Airstream. Otherwise, it seems like a nice trailer. And it was a well done video. Thanks for uploading.
Congratulations on the baby! How exciting! Maybe you should check out a Lance travel trailer.
Your good people congrats on the little one. Best of luck to yall
Thanks for the info
Fast forward to 2:22 if you want to see their list.
Fan: Its working.
2 rivets loose. Not a big deal
Stove gaskets. Not seeing this a a world ender
Sink is moving.
A drawer moisture issue. Looks like something spilled inside. Owner issue
Stain on the floor. Possibly from the AC unit use or overuse? Need a rug.
Bathroom exhaust doesn't work. Check the fuse?
bathroom pull down blind doesn't work. Maybe because the shower has something to do with it?
Batteries life span issue. Don't know if they are living in this 25/8 while boondocking? Shore power to recharge?
Sick? Frig or propane tank fumes? Sounds like a leak.
Awning hook missing.
Not seeing an issue with your Caravel. Easily fixable. I have a 2016 is great shape if you want to trade.
Are u getting another RV ?
Scary about that leak. Did you guys have a carbon monoxide detector and if so, did it alert you?
Omg. So many things. I hope all things get repaired...
Sorry to hear you had a bad experience!
If you get another travel trailer and use the stock flooded / wet or AGM batteries again - I'd suggest never letting them drop below 50% unless there's an emergency. Otherwise you compromise their lifespan and reduce the overall charge capacity.
If you were to replace them with lithium they don't have that issue, but colder temperatures can cause charging problems.
Wow! Congratulations on the baby!! But, very disappointed in Airstream!!
Wow. I am sorry to hear that you two have had so much trouble. Hope you get things repaired and safe.
Not sure if you’ve had other trailers, but when compared to many, Airstream is a better build overall. I mean, it doesn’t hold a candle to Living Vehicle (LV)... but those are $$$$$$.
Airstream need to step their game up. seems like it's severely overpriced for such poor quality
Thanks for a good, honest video. RV quality in general is poor; sorry to hear that Airstream is just as bad as the rest. Traveling, living in an RV is a constant maintenance and repair task. Components seem to be chosen from lowest cost bidders, not for durability and, quality. They look great on the showroom, and start rattling apart the first mile down the road The engineering is very poor considering that these are mobile units that do take a bearing down the road; it starts with the frame and suspension systems; light weight is chosen over ruggedness. No, they don’t have to be built with the strength of a tank or armored personnel carrier, but neither should they be built a child’s dollhouse. Diligently perform your daily/weekly maintenance; even in the best of RVs this is necessary if you want to save yourselves headaches. RV manufacturers need to do their part, but so do owners.%
Well, we have been streaming for 33yrs, the first thing you realize...you better be willing & able to fix things.
It sounds like this is an adventure and not a lifestyle for you...but still, learn to fix.
We were at the "Mothership" August 24, hope they got everything taken care of for you,
Sweet Streams
completely agree - this goes for any type of RV. one year my electric tongue jack stopped working while at a campsite - another year i had a blowout on the highway, another time had the refrigerator stop working which was a fuse issue, fixing rivets is common and can be done by the owner - none of these were specific to the airstream itself (except the rivets) but the point is be prepared for anything, read the airstream and dometic manual several times, carry spare parts/fuses/extinguisher, make sure you know how to use the jack to access the spare tire or manually turn the tongue, etc.
Floor mold, propane leak, rivet and battery are big issues. Others can be fixed in an hour. Good luck.
We had exactly the same problem with the propane in our 2018 Sport (predecessor to Bambi and Caravel). Fortunately we could smell the propane before we had symptoms (so sorry!). We took it in also. The issue was with a broken Dometic cooktop. It took our dealer 3 or 4 different cooktops to get one that didn’t do the same thing. Seems to be a Dometic, not Airstream issue.
That was all very interesting ...., that was a lot of small things that "together" is a big deal. We might replace our floor with some actual wood flooring
Most of these are pretty minor issues, easy to fix. Propane leak is a bigger issue as well as the floor.
Don't pay an arm and a leg for a brand new RV or fancy name brand. We purchased a 28' 7 years ago that didn't have anywhere near this amount of problems for probably 1/4-1/3 of the cost of this RV. It's still working well today. Our batteries were purchased back then and we haven't replaced them yet. Never had a gas leak, air conditioning works. Nothing overly fancy in ours. I suggest buying newer used because the bugs will be worked out. We did have a leak in our outdoor kitchen last year but that was a problem with winterizing and a fairly easy fix.
I must get one of those Snoopy T-Shirts for my wife!
Please share where you got it.
TY!
Asta la proxima chicos!🙋🏻♀️
Good review my question is why didn’t the propane device alert you. The refrigerator is 12 volts
Hi!!!! My bf says he saw you guys today at planet fitness lollll and noting that you guys said you're back in florida i'm assuming it's true! Welcome back!!
That’s a bummer. Hopefully you’ll get the technical issues sorted out. Seeing those pano windows in the morning and working at the dinette gotta be a big plus. I’m looking at small trailers like this for travel and work and I can’t see living in a small windowless shell. Keep us up to date on your progress.
❤ thanks for sharing
Just curious if any of this was a result of the accident in Tennessee.
Things get loose during driving just minor repairs. I fixed and upgraded my RV yearly.
It helped me to decide never to purchase an RV. Rivets get loose? You got problems man.
Fallen rivets are one thing, but a new RV sending its occupants to an ER? Man, I hope you retained a lawyer before taking it back to Airstream.
Good luck with your journey and thanks for your service to the country. You guys are the cutest couple on TH-cam as others have said.
If I recall, those batteries are not Lithium, the fact you are draining them below 50% (AGM batteries) you will kill the lifespan of the battery. Hence why it doesn’t last long for you.
Thank you for your report ! Now i could easily make a choice ! NO AIRSTREAM
I've had an Ocean Breeze since 2008, still works as advertised.
A beautiful couple!!
When are you coming to Montana?
"BooBoo," that's cute! Hope you two get everything fixed and have more pleasant journeys! Stay safe!
I hope Airstream has a good warranty with that exorbitant price.
I would love to own one, but I would never pay such a high price.
Thank you for sharing this story.
I like to know what airstream did to issues you had. I will be in the market for travel trailer soon and airstream was on my top of the list.
The vintage AS's are worth more in more ways than one.