Which Was Better?: The Chronic VS Chronic 2001
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 ต.ค. 2024
- In this clip from the Gangster Chronicles podcast MC Eiht, Steele and Soren Baker discuss Dr Dre’s The Chronic & The Chronic 2001 and examine which album was better between the two.
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The Chronic is one of the greatest albums ever of any genre
PERIOD
Wrong…
It’s the Greatest Rap Album Ever… period!!!
I agree
Doggystyle is NOT better than The Chronic. AMAZING CLASSIC but NOT BETTER than The Chronic. The Chronic LITERALLY changed how rap music was made FOREVER. And I agree that having Dr. Dre rap makes the project even better because like you said Dr. Dre sounds dope, I always liked how Dre raps ever since NWA.
Both albums did that.
💯 THE CHRONIC is the BEST album EVER IMO
Agreed doggystyle was like a Chronic pt 2
Chronic is better than Doggystyle.
Doggystyle the most anticipated rap album.
92 chronic! No debate
Ding, doing, DING💥
N0 debate(period)
It’s a debate. 2001 is better imo.
The Chronic hands down because it introduced us to Snoop. After hearing the Chronic I couldn't wait for Snoop solo album. But, Dre definitely is better as producer than a rapper. Anything Dre touches is 🔥 especially when I heard California Love.
Technically “Deep Cover” introduced us to Snoop. It did introduce us to Rage, Kurupt, Daz, Nate and RBX tho. But Snoop was all over The Chronicle.
@theathejtheg9834 o ok you are right about that.
I think to this day Snoops Doggystyle is the most anticipated album of all time in Hip Hop. I know it held the record for pre release sales for a long time and might even still hold that record. I’m not positive on the last part. I graduated high school in 1995 and all those albums like “The Chronic”,”Doggystyle” “Regulate G Funk Era” came out during my high school years. Man West coast hip hop was dominating the hip hop scene from 1988-1995. Don’t get me wrong Biggies “Ready to Die “ in 1994 was the shit. Big is my favorite rapper ever followed by IceCube. Also Illmatic had come out,Mobb Deep with “The Infamous”,Public Enemy with “Fear of the Black Planet”,GZA which “Liquid Swords”(which is in my top ten hip hop albums of all time),Gangstar dropped a few dope albums in the 90’s,A Tribe Called Quest, which Low End Theory and Midnight Marauders Wu-Tang with Enter The 36th Chamber and Forever. Raekwon - Only Built For Cuban Linx. The 90’s was the greatest era for every genre of music PERIOD. Bands like Nirvana,Tool,Alice in Chains,STP,Pearl Jam,Soundgarden,Sonicyouth and that list goes on and on. Every genre of music in the 90’s was dope. I don’t know what’s going on today but it’s nothing compared to the 90’s.
@tomking7080 I graduated in 1992 a couple of years before you. I love the Chronic and Doggystyle. But, I'm a Pac fan, so I'm loving All Eyez On Me and Me Against the World. I also think Purple Rain to.
@@Ms.Federally.Official-Matthews I hear ya bro. I’m a massive PAC fan as well. I grew up in Phoenix, Arizona and everyone in my high school was listening to West Coast rap because during that era Phoenix followed LA and the whole California scene. I’m a hip hop and music head and I listened to everything from 2 Live Crew,KRS-1,LL Cool J,Beastie Boys,Above The Law,Too Short and the list goes on. As far a a rapper I think that Big was the best to ever do it. When it comes to worldwide influence it’s definitely Pac. Pac was also more versatile with his songs. He could do “Hit ‘Em Up” and “I get around” to “Keep your head up “and “Dear Mama “. All I know is that our generation,Gen X,lost the 2 greatest hip hop artists of all time in a 6 month period. Looking back at being almost 46 years old they were kids bro. 24 and 25. I know that you are considered a adult at 18 but your not. Those two young men hadn’t even started their lives and they were taken away over stupidity. Pac over a fight which he shouldn’t of been in and Big because Suge needed his revenge in my opinion.
2001 slaps hard no doubt but Man the chronic is different I remember when my pops got that album I still play that album regularly In 2023
Doggie Style 1 of the best albums EVER!
Soren Baker definitely broke it down and has a valid point, all 3 albums are classics but Dre’s vocals definitely help’s out with any project the Dr. has done. The Chronic -1992 album was way more balanced with all the original death row artists. What makes the Chronic 92 better is the production and the bigger variety of artist all through the album track lists and Dre’s vocals especially .
idk man i like Daz as a Rapper over dre so id pick doggystyle preferance maybe.
Doggystyle is not touching The Chronic. The Chronic 2001 is not touching the Chronic. Only Tupac crushed The Chronic As far as the Deathrow catalog goes.
2pac crushed the chronic ?? 😂 you trippin
@@bigprob8744 all eyes on me sold over 5 million in its first two weeks Which was a record at the time
2pacs all eyes on me album did not crush the chronic 😂😂 nothing that came out on death row after the chronic crushed it or was better.
The Chronic over both of those albums, easily. Doggystyle was not only missing Dre's vocals and simple stuff like DJ record scratches. But it was also missing the debut of Dre's version of g funk and the debut of all the Death Row artists
Exactly
Chronic over Chronic 2 but Doggystyle changed the game indefinitely
Bro correct 💯
The Chronic was originally suppose to be a compilation but Suge was smart enough to have it as Dre album bcuz he knew it would stick out and sell more.I use to think The Chronic was better but yeah now I agree Doggystyle is better and the original with all the songs bcuz I know a couple got took off bcuz of sample clearances
It was originally intended to be called Overdose until they decided to change it
2001...Entire album of bangers!!
The Chronic entire album of bangers
Not like the first one.....
@@trentonjenkins2243Bruh u crazy, what song on the original wasn’t a banger?? I can name 4 or 5 songs on 2001 that weren’t
@@GrinchyGreen334 My Brother you didn't understand what I said🤣 I said the first original one was better than the second one.
@@trentonjenkins2243 I read it wrong, my apologies my brother
Doggystyle n chronic neck to neck...chronic has more range n more concept songs tho n it was harder...i think in that sense the chronic is more of a masterpiece...but theyre both masterpieces...
Dre changed the game with the Chronic! Doggie style and Chronic 2001 are on par with one another!
Doggystyle
Chronic
Chronic 2001
I always looked at doggystyle as a disc 2 to the chronic
Never heard it put like this, but this males perfect sense. It's basically a continuation of The Chronic. To me, The Chronic is big brother, while Doggystyle is the little brother.
We know you know Eiht. You came with "Music To Drive By". That album and "We Come Strapped" is just as good as any other CLASSIC album 🔥💯
Factz
2001 is a dope album, but lacks the timelessness like The Chronic
How so?
@disintegrateallhumans3067 The Chronic went triple platinum with unknown artists who became famous overnight. Dre was also the underdog after leaving Ruthless. The album was created during the LA riots, which gave people a reference point of nostalgia when they listen to the album. Not to mention popularizing G Funk. 2001 doesn't have the same magic.
@@CocheseSha - You make some good points, & The Chronic is a classic.
But, in 2023, The Chronic sounds way more (for lack of a better term) ‘dated’ than 2001.
@@CocheseSha01 did the same you didn't know six two was you didn't know who hitman was who ms roq was knocturnal, time bomb, royce who wrote the message c'mon man only 2 songs you hear from the chronic today is let me ride & g thang 2001 you hear f you still dre xxplosive what's the difference next episode lets get high man it ain't even close
@jordanflores5687 You gonna compare those artists to Snoop, Daz, Kurupt, Rage, Nate Dogg, RBX and Jewell?
Yeah, okay
Doggystyle is a top 10 rap album of all time thats not a debate its pretty much set in stone one of the few albums to get 5 mics in the source
Disagree. Not many ppl put that top 10 outside the westcoast. We loved it here on the Eastcoast. Classic no doubt. But more top 25 to us
@@OmarScruggsYall Eastcoast niggas stay hating. It might not be top 10 in the east. but it's definitely top 10 in the rest of the country.
2001 is good. Doggystyle is great. Chronic is amazing
Doggystyle is a masterpiece. Hip Hops Thriller
Dre has always been dope since N.W.A Remember Dre was working with Doc before Snoop. I belive everything Dre did with Snoop is what he supose to done with the D.o.c. But D.o.c ended up loosing his voice, And i belive that's how Snoop got lucky to work with Dre. Starting off with Deep Cover in 92'' leading up to The Chronic the same year. I always thought what would have happen If Nwa had never broken up....🎶🔥🔥🔥😎
The Chronic introduced Snoop and his crew! The production song arrangement and skits were perfect and so was Doggystyle!! 2001 wasn't Raw like those. It was too clean/polished.
I didnt grow up with OG Chronic. But when 01 came out it was a BOMB in the game. I think it comes down to when you were brought into it. That said, as a kid. EVERYONE was listening to Doggy Style. I put 01 over both because that album put Dre back on top.
It's the original over all of them and it'snot even close...its one of the only albums ever that doesn't have a skippable track....
@@SnakeyD84682001 you can listen half and then it’s pretty bad
Personally and this coming from an East Coast cat. Music2 Drive by was neck and neck with the Chronic. But yeah the chronic.
Music to drive by? Nah😂😂 nowhere near the chronic. Not even in the same category
I feel the analogy they give for niggaz4life being produced better then straight outta Compton, but SOC being definitely more influential is the same for chronic vs 2001, the original obviously broke barriers in hip hop genre, but 2001 was the better sounding album with a ton of radio singles that still makes heads nod, when still Dre, explosive, next episode etc come on. And doggystyle was just perfection
Dre knew the formula was Daz and Warren G that’s what he saw and he mixed great but Daz had the vision you can tell
The chronic had way more BOUNCE than doggystyle. Nuff said
The Chronic, not 2001. Then Doggystyle. 2001 has hits but just a ‘regular’ above average good album… not monumental. Though it is still a clinic on how to do it.
Doggystyle better sonically #1. Big difference in the mixing. Nothing was messing with that clarity at the time. Top 5 songs on Doggystyle better than top 5 songs on Chronic. Chronic was like peeking its head into the future of music with new instrumentation but halfway still using breakbeats loops from the 80s. Soren gotta point tho, Dre should have been on more songs on Doggystyle. Imagine Dre on For All My Ni**z and B*tches...hell imagine Snoop with a full verse on that song.
For all my Niggas and Bitches was originally supposed to be on Dogg Food. It's mostly Daz & Kurupt going back and forth with Rage and Snoop on the end. I got my mind made up, by 2pac was also a Dogg Food track that was gifted to Pac when he got out of jail. Dogg Food is 5 mic album as far as I'm concerned. If they kept those two track, Dogg Food would've been just as classic as The Chronic & Doggystyle. 🔥🔥🔥
The Chronic
That's easy. The first chronic by the time 2000 came out the energy around it fell apart not to say it wasn't good it didn't have that feel like the original
O.G. Chronic is the blueprint in that, phenomenal G:Funk trifecta! Keep doing your damn thing Kings. God bless you brothers and your families, as well. Duces from Ca. L.A.
1st Chronic,Doggystyle then Chron 2001...Snoop would jst be Calvin Broadus without the Dr...dont git it twisted Snoop would still be a star but Dre made him a Superstar out the gate...Dre has the uncanny gift of bringing the best out of anything he touches & his delivery is tight even tho he dont write
Sonically…. The Chronic is the best Hip Hop album ever produced. No skips! Doggystyle second, Chronic 2001 3rd.
Naw best produced album was Hotboyz Guerrilla Warfare and Chopper city in the Ghetto -BG
Back than we could tell dre wasn't a rapper, but we still he sounded good on those records.
Not even a competition...the original Chronic is a masterpiece with every track bumping'. 2001 felt like an EP.
In The Bay, at least The Peninsula, The Chronic was the only non Bay tape that was played nonstop.
Dr Dre occupies the unique place in hip hop as a producer where his music has entered one dimension the best no matter what production you're talking about that he produced so I wouldn't compare you can't when he touches it it's official
I totally agree with Soren!! And I'm from the east side Detroit
The first chromic was the best album to me from death row because it was a time piece.
RIP Mr 3-2 true Texas🇨🇱 pioneer
The chronic hands down
Those are the most uncomfortable looking chairs 😂
2001 is definitely better than the Chronic
Don't get me wrong
The Chronic album is a classic 🔥🔥 🔥🔥🔥
But 2001 was even better 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Now doggstyle was a masterpiece
Hell no just Hell no! Chronic over anything lol
The sounds in 2001 were a lot better but the Chronic / Doggystyle were better overall albums
Don't forget DOC No one can do it better. Definitely in top 5
*DoggyStyle* and 🍀 2001
Are both *Classics* 🔥🔥 imo
Chronic, and Doggystyle was both good albums
First time I.heard daz, kurupt, Nate Dogg, lady of rage, rbx
We already knew Jewell and Michel,le
Dre was doing the pfunk sampled since the nwa days
2001 is a great album but to me The Chronic is THE GREATEST HIP HOP ALBUM EVER MADE well it’s tied with Public Enemy’s It Takes A Nation Of Millions album but that’s just my opinion.
Chronic was a perfect album. It mixed hard gangsta rap and g funk.
Doggystyle was g funk which was cool, and smooth.
2001 was futuristic and took it to another level.
But Chronic just had the piece perfect mix
All Classics but Doggystyle was more groovy. But my personal opinion I think Dogg Food was the best Overall...
Man… Doggystyle a hair over the Chronic
2001 is cool but the replay value isn’t the same and it sure isn’t iconic as the OG. Doggystyle and OG are perfectly produced and mixed. 2001 to me is a tad over produced albeit still dope
i think doggystyle is the better album. they're both good but Dre really wasnt writing his own raps and wasnt no where near what he was portraying to be also a lot of the beats he didnt even do, I dont even think Dre even really liked or even likes gangsta shit ,it made/makes money he just so happened to be best friends with Eazy e who really was the Compton gangsta in their crew, Dr.Dre might be the Greatest producer of all time tho even just for all the stuff he did on Rutheless
Chronic 2001 was 15 years ahead of the game. It’s still cold af
*Eastside Low Bottoms sh*t !*
_Tappin' in from South Central LA_
Sonically, between The Chronic and Chronic 2001 ?
CHRONIC ! HANDS DOWN !!
I still listen to songs from The Chronic to this day. Can't remember the last time I listened to or actively searched for something to listen to from the album.
The Chronic 2 is the Shit Dre Got the Best 2 album’s of All Time And Doggy Style in Those Caddies are my Niggah Troy in the front shoutout to Yella Boy Troy Detroit still Up
Absolutely Warren G doesn’t get enough credit for his contributions to West Coast hip hop. If it wasn’t for Warren G and then later DMX Def Jam would of went out of business
2001 is definitely better & im not biased at all. Chronic just had that major influence. You can put on any song from 2001 & it still sounds fresh. Now my older brother along with people in here are going to disagree but is what it is. At the end of the day it’s about which album was apart of your era growing up.
Murder was the Case, Doggystyle, The Chronic, and Dogg Pound IMO
The chronic original no comparison actually I like doghystyle #1 it was gangsta rap g funk to me snoop perfected it with the help of KURUPT vicious flow .
The Chronic is one of the best albums EVER doggystyle nor 2001 couldnt touch it with a 10 ft pole
First Chronic no doubt
Highest Respect to the OG Butch Smalls
Big Mike and Tre duce had a full project recorded with Dre and snoop just never got released I had a cassette of 8 tracks by them
Is that Ryder from GTA San Andreas? It sounds like him.
I had chronic bronchitis when I was younger, therefore I would have to say neither.
No The Chronic is a Dre, Snoop AND THE D.O.C. album!
Dr dre the chronic album i still a classic album and snoop dogg doggystyle those two album are classic to this day
The 1st chronic album is way better than the chronic 2001 .
Snoop was the best built up rapper ever.
We heard him first on Deep Cover.
We wanted more , so the Chronic gave us more.
Doggy style was one if the only highly anticipated peojects to live up to expectations.
He was the biggest star
In high school we heard everyone, but Snoop was played everywhere!!!
He chamged rap. He was the first commercial, main stream gangster rapper.
Weed was looked down on back then.
After Snoop made it popular.
It was accepted as OK
Its been 30 years, its time for Dre to drop his 3rd album
2001 🤷🏿♂️
Mc eiht talks with no hate if pac name not involved
Imagine if Pac would've been on "The Chronic" album....lol 😂
Idnt think Pac fits the G Funk mold as much. His voice is too powerful and loud I just don’t see him on any of those beats. Kinda hard to explain
I agree and also Dre rapped his ahsss of on that Niggz4life album too, I think he outshined Ren on there
2001 is a top 3 Classic First then Chronic/Doggiestyle
Allllllll I know is none of them is fuckin with Bone Thugz albums
Dogg Food was a classic also
2001 is better sonically but The Chronic “ belongs” to hip-hop in a way..Like Illmatic, good kid, m.A.A.d city, ready to die etc
2001 was way better then The Chronic. It just caught on later. Original just had the biggest hit but
01 has zero skips.
With Soren on this. Dre is the best non-rapper since Eazy-E. He's a presence that is missing on Doggystyle.
2001 is better
Chronic 2001 is Dre's BEST work because there wasn't any blatant samples with new sounds Dre CREATED...
The original hands down and 10 toes. The Chronic in my top 5 rap albums ever. 2001 was dope but not Chronic dope
The Chronic all the way!
The Chronic was N!ggaz4L!fe part 2.
Doggystyle was The Chronic part 2.
Daz was the mastermind on those beats.
He's not listed because he signed off his rights because Interscope wanted it all to be Dre.
Anything Dre touches turns to diamonds.
Exactly that’s what I said. Daz had the most production on all the albums there was 😊
I feel what y'all are saying about the CHRONIC (92'), but "DR. DRE" 2001 was waaaay harder than "CHRONIC"...
The Chronic > 2001, but I'll say this... I prefer Dre's rapping on 2001. Only because its obvious that Dre's playing a character on the Chronic
The Chronic was 100% dope. 2001 was 50% dope. Doggystyle had more hype than any album I can remember and was a MASSIVE disappointment. I don't think I liked ONE song off that whole album. It's the Phantom Menace of music.
I prefer the OG Chronic over 2001 and Doggystyle. The production was funkier and more colorful than 2001 (Although 2001 is probably the best mixed hip-hop album I've ever heard), and there's a bit more substance in the lyrical content than on Doggystyle. I rank it about #3 on my all time hip-hop album list.
I listened to Music 2 Driveby as much as the Chronic b4 The Chronic and Doggystyle was released
2001 better. Original chronic note impactful to a generation. They still playing 2001 today and Em was introduced through 2001. Drop the mic 6:30
Doggystyle was a perfect album. Just like all eyes on me, AC/DC back n black, Eminem Marshall Matthers LP, GNR appetite for destruction. Imo
The Chronic had some meh songs. Chronic 2001 is 10/10 all the way through.
Doggystyle > The Chronic.
I gotta go with the first Chronic. Plus, Dre was never the feature even when he was with NWA. His identity was to be the DJ and producer. He has always had writers from Ice Cube, D.O.C , Ren, Snoop, Nocturnal, Jay Z, Eminem, Fifty, Daz, Kurupt and others . Dre was, is and will always be one of greatest producers and creative musical thinkers.
Doggystyle better than both. Feel like doggystyle was a refined Chronic. It was just an extension, a little more polished.
And Chronic is better than Chronic 2001 becuz of the impact on rap it had. It was game changing. But 2001 might’ve been the better album song for song IMO. Has better playback right now.
2001 just aged well over the years. It's not in my top 5. Only the original Chronic is top 5. Anyone born around the late 90s should have 2001 over the original. I wouldn't blame you. Both are 5 mic classic albums in Hip Hop
1st Chronic cuz all the ideas were from Daz and Warren G!!!! Daz did more production than people think!!!!!
I say Chronic 2001.
Chronic 01 was the upbeat modern version of The Chronic Album.
The Chronic Album was gangsta funk that I'm not as much a fan of because the music is too slow for me.
The West Coast golden era wasn't Ruthless Records of the 80s or Death Row Records of the 90s, it was Aftermath Records of the early 2000s.
I LOVE Doggystyle…. But The Chronic was a better album. Idk wtf Eiht talking bout on this one
Doggy Style is a lot better than The Chronic 2000 and it’s better than The Chronic IMO. The Chronic was a dope ass album, but Dre wasn’t writing his rhymes. The lyrics on the Dog Pound album was elite as hell. Kurupt got his bones for being one of the illest MC’s just off that album. Dre was a dope producer but I wasn’t listening to NWA to hear what Dre had to say even though whoever wrote his rhymes laced them nice, but he didn’t write those rhymes. During 95 we compared Dog Food to The Infamous Mobb Deep album, that’s how dope that shit was. Now that I’m older, I only listen to Dre Day, Let me Ride and the RBX song, but the whole Dog Pound album is rocked.
Doggystyle is better cause it also had a stronger finish in the 2nd half of the album. Vs The Chronic. And it would’ve been dope having Dre rappin on there, Maybe that’s why they scrapped the OG Version of “The Next Episode”
I know y'all bout to go crazy when I say this but J-Flexx DOC and others wrote for Dr dre....now his delivery was good but he had ppl write for him