Susie & Ralsei’s Relationship Will Be More Important Than You Think (Deltarune Analysis/Theories)

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  • @astuffedalpaca5365
    @astuffedalpaca5365  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +417

    I’m really surprised by the support this video has gotten (people actually thought the jokes?? were funny???) thank you everyone so much! I’m working on a similar video about suselle right now.
    Also, if you’re interested in more of my work I have an art instagram (stuffedalpacaa) and also post on twitter (stuffed_alpaca) and tumblr (saraanzu), including some Deltarune stuff.
    The delta meaning 4 thing was kind of a joke but I have gotten a lot of comments about it so to clarify: yes I know the symbol is a triangle lol. Some have pointed out that it’s also the symbol for change which could be really interesting if it’s relevant! In regard to whether or not I think there’s actually a secret fourth delta warrior… if there is I think it’s more likely to be the player or smth than like, Noelle, since she’s already obviously relevant and I think it’d be more interesting if she were an outside force that’s still integral to the story.
    Also, about Lancer being another “prince of the dark”: he does function as his dad’s successor but is consistently referred to as “the king’s son” and is only called a “prince” once. Furthermore, he isn’t born of the grand fountain and thus turns to stone in other dark worlds. I do think Ralsei having a very vague form in his visual in the legend relates to his vague identity, but people forget that he is still wearing his hood when he delivers the legend, and the figure being surrounded by fireballs indicates it’s him as he is a boss monster and Toby said he planned to give a certain character fire powers but decided against it for chapter 1. Still, I do think the possibility of Lancer replacing Ralsei could be brought up at some point in the story.

    • @zixvirzjghamn737
      @zixvirzjghamn737 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      how did you not reference ralsusie OMCE

    • @loydeagleheart8488
      @loydeagleheart8488 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Was this the first video-essay-like you made?

    • @leafbladie
      @leafbladie 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Didn’t Undertale Yellow give a bit of a boost?

    • @astuffedalpaca5365
      @astuffedalpaca5365  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@leafbladie if you’re referring to the intro where I talk about the fandom being in a drought, this video was in production for a while before uty released lol.

    • @hopecat7466
      @hopecat7466 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'd like to mention that Lancer is the son of King Spade. Now, what royal position would that put Lancer in?
      It would make him just as much of a Prince of the Dark as Ralsei.
      Them showing up in the story around the same time I'm sure has no coincidence either.
      There may be a conflict as to who truly is the prince of the dark in the prophecy.

  • @MinunRobotnik4
    @MinunRobotnik4 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +835

    Being sarcastic is Susie's equivalent to Ralsei's healing. Literally, she has weaponized rudeness as her special attack

    • @gengarghast
      @gengarghast 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +91

      In fact, isn't it one of her in-game stats?

    • @lilacpenguin5329
      @lilacpenguin5329 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

      Rude buster hmm

    • @Idontknowwhattowrite150
      @Idontknowwhattowrite150 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +89

      @@gengarghastyeah actually I’m pretty sure her stats include “Rudeness” and it goes down by I think 1 (100->99) at the end of Chapter 1 (character development real)

    • @Pain_train_wielder
      @Pain_train_wielder 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      @@Idontknowwhattowrite150I never noticed that, I’ll have to look next time i play

    • @leonelzubieta8636
      @leonelzubieta8636 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Idontknowwhattowrite150It lowers the damage of rude buster? I hope not, that attack is usefull for strong enemies like the blue were wire to pacify

  • @Naoseiquem20
    @Naoseiquem20 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1521

    One aspect I like to think about them is how they are opposites in their meta roles as well. Ralsei despite wanting to spare, will attack other Darkerns if the player wants, and he is very much worried about making the player experience as good as possible. Susie on the other hand is the resistance to the player will, going about her choices and only following the player when she wants to, down to even the items she wants to equip.

    • @mrhalfsaid1389
      @mrhalfsaid1389 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +118

      Was going to say that but this is much more eloquent

  • @matti.8465
    @matti.8465 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +276

    Susie's rebellious nature is definitely having an effect on Ralsei, someone who was born with one specific purpose and is afraid to deviate from it. She's helping Ralsei become more confident, even a little sassy, which is a far cry from the subservient and shy goat boy from the first chapter.
    If Ralsei's story ends with him defying the prophecy, it'll be because of Susie's influence.

  • @alficiro3238
    @alficiro3238 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +324

    Ralsei really be having "Positive Affirmations for Inanimate Objects" playing in his head 24/7

  • @existenceispain_geekthesiren
    @existenceispain_geekthesiren 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +508

    oh my god ralsei is going to have SUCH a hard time the moment he can't make light out of any given situation. the instant something really is bad and horrible, he will NOT know how to cope.

    • @MAXIMUMPOWER42
      @MAXIMUMPOWER42 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +69

      I have the feeling that Ralsei will BREAK if the player makes them kill too many people

    • @existenceispain_geekthesiren
      @existenceispain_geekthesiren 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +77

      @@MAXIMUMPOWER42 oh god. if we do end up cycling through monsters we manipulate into murder, ralsei will be the last, because either he will shatter into pieces or become an unstoppable force of Kicking Your Ass. I'm certain he's more powerful than he lets on, especially if he's comparable to Asriel.
      actually, now that I'm thinking about it, do we know Asriel's powerful? His parents certainly are, but we've never seen him do magic without being aided by other souls or the like. Hm.

    • @MAXIMUMPOWER42
      @MAXIMUMPOWER42 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      @@existenceispain_geekthesiren like you said Asriel’s a boss monster so he can’t be weak

    • @ChaosEnthusiast
      @ChaosEnthusiast 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

      @@existenceispain_geekthesiren dude i never realized how much of a mystery ralsei's power scailing was
      holy crud this is setup isnt it

    • @Rhyusfox
      @Rhyusfox หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      ​@@existenceispain_geekthesiren I would definitely lean a bit more towards the "Ultimate Force of Kicking Your Ass." He does show he can be stern when it comes to how Q.U.E.E.N. tended to view things...

  • @Chowder_T
    @Chowder_T 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +507

    I think this might be my favorite video on Ralsei. His line about "a darkner's purpose is to serve lightners" is his most telling one, but it feels like few people bring it up. Personally, I didn't notice a lot of the sus stuff like him knowing Kris and Susie's name without being told, his name being an anagram for Asriel, or even that the perspective shifts Susie being initiated by him until after other people pointed it out. But what did set off my radar is his attitude about subservience. It feels vindicating to see your video approach it.

    • @BelBelle468
      @BelBelle468 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +69

      A lot of ppl assume Ralsei is bad cuz he makes the player not listen to their convo. But I don’t think wanting to talk to Kris alone without the player’s influence (a force that is possessing Kris, limiting his bodily automomy) is a bad thing. We don’t know enough to assume as such.

    • @QSBraWQ
      @QSBraWQ 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@BelBelle468unknown is scary.

  • @CreativelyJake
    @CreativelyJake 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +208

    realizing susie will have to have a time when she is confronted with the fact that darkners "arent real" and are objects is
    ...oh i can imagine quite a large argument happening, a big confrontation on ralsei
    perhaps she'll even be the one who asks ralsei what he is, if hes even a darkner...

    • @catalinaargyriou8603
      @catalinaargyriou8603 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      holy shit

    • @br0ck689
      @br0ck689 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I think it's very likely that Ralsei is some form of roaring titan

    • @BohemianBetamax
      @BohemianBetamax 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      The green crayon is suspiciously missing from the crayon box in the school so he could be that crayon 😂

  • @Conductor_of_the_Ensemble
    @Conductor_of_the_Ensemble 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +276

    "untapped potential" *shows picture of a tap* Peak comedy right here folks.

    • @somecirclewithsunglasses3994
      @somecirclewithsunglasses3994 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      To make it better; the cup should be next to the tap but empty, then in a newer video, show the untapped cup, tapped. "Tapped potential".

  • @andrew_cunningham
    @andrew_cunningham 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +561

    Very clear and thorough video, I enjoyed it a lot. Reading into character dynamics tends to be a blind spot of mine so I always feel like I learn a lot from this kind of analysis.

  • @aimfulRenegade
    @aimfulRenegade 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +252

    1:32 because even though delta is the fourth letter of the greek alphabet, the capital form is a triangle, and thus delta is associated with triangles (e.g., the nile delta.), therefore three.

    • @PenMaster9115
      @PenMaster9115 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

      And the deltarune symbol has three triangles at the bottom. It makes so much sense.

    • @itsentdev
      @itsentdev 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      @@PenMaster9115 trying to defeat the 'angel's heaven' the symbol itself is literally the prophecy

    • @brookelastname5047
      @brookelastname5047 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      and also delta is often the variable for change and id say that contributing to a world-saving prophecy is certainly being a force of change

  • @wholehorse331
    @wholehorse331 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +186

    It's funny how so many people post-ch.1 were deadset on thinking Lancer was the real prince of the dark and Ralsei couldn't be because he had no subjects. I mention this in regards to the point about the monster in the prophecy not having a well-defined role like the human soul sealing the fountain or the darkner guide. It's a very interesting part of Susie that's yet to be explored fully (though I definitely think likewise for a long time now that she seems like even more of a classical protagonist than Kris).

    • @cosmicspacething3474
      @cosmicspacething3474 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      I still think Lancer being the prince is possible. Or at least something is off with that part. The music even changes when he mentions the dark prince being a part of the prophecy.

    • @leifcasanova3097
      @leifcasanova3097 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Turns into Mario rpg where you can switch party members that fit that role.
      We already have the monster dynamic for noelle now to see if Ralsei can be replaced

  • @AlphaPizzadog
    @AlphaPizzadog 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +888

    Unrelated thought about Kris:
    Based on the choices we make for the most part, I think Kris doesn't HATE us. Kris is able to make their own choices during cutscenes, and none of their actions when seperated from our control necessarily implies a negative relationship. Honestly I think chapter 1 was kris pranking us. Like they would totally wear a shirt that said "I Became A JRPG Protagonist And All I Got Was This Free T-Shirt"

    • @astuffedalpaca5365
      @astuffedalpaca5365  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +450

      yeah I wonder how much kris knows about why and who is possessing them? because if they know it wasn’t our choice they logically shouldn’t hate us THAT much, even if it does suck for them. I don’t think deltarune’s really going to fully go down a “the player is the villain for playing the game” route, undertale didn’t even make moral judgements about you for playing no mercy (I mean, the characters do, obviously) it more so just comments on how you’ve become emotionally disconnected from this world out of your desire to see more of it, no matter the cost.

    • @TheGlenn8
      @TheGlenn8 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +116

      My theory is that Kris needs the player for something (possibly closing fountains and/or perhaps something even more important).
      But I'm also a staunch believer in Kris actually being way more in control than we think they are and that they're actually the mastermind behind many of the things that happen in the story. This includes Ralsei being an intentional creation of Kris.

    • @pablopereyra7126
      @pablopereyra7126 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +88

      @@TheGlenn8 On the topic of Kris being the mastermind, have you heard of the theory that they intentionally overslept at the start of chapter 1 specifically so they'd be partnered with Susie? Because the only reason Kris got paired with her is because everyone else had already picked a partner by the time they got to school.

    • @glareninja
      @glareninja 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +52

      ending wise, perhaps kris lets us have a last good bye with everyone, and we “disconnect”, and to restart, the saves all have to be fully wiped. like all three,
      also we should consider this is an incomplete game, we should probably wonder why toby fox decided originally (even tho the plan changed) to do 3-5 and not 3-7 aside from we would get it sooner. like what of 6-7 are much different and require reworking save files in some way for the ending(s?). like perhaps across al three saves we have to do something for an ending. or just things changing for other reasons.

    • @AkaiAzul
      @AkaiAzul 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

      We the player don't have total control over Kris. When attempting to have Kris look into Asriel's Cyber World room Queen made, Kris forces his eyes closed as the door opens, so we don't see what's inside. When responding to Susie post Spamton fight, they choose how they carry out our desired response.

  • @trevorendeavors7972
    @trevorendeavors7972 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +267

    This analysis is HUGELY underrated. I’ve seen some theories that make large leaps in logic and are essentially more headcanon than theory/exploration. Your video essay is compelling, well-worded, and overall great content to consume during our current fandom drought.

  • @i010001
    @i010001 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +92

    I'm so glad people are talking about Ralsei's lucifer references to Noelle's angel/jesus references, even in passing. That is something I am obsessed with which no one seems to acknowledge.
    More relevant to the video, Ralsei and Susie have this fascinating dynamic where they have this kind of... Law/Chaos thing? Ralsei is all about following the prophecy, about set roles, and about what a hero should be. Susie is about questioning things, and is this force which undermines your expectations.
    The interesting part is that this extends to the battle systems and game mechanics: Ralsei gives you the tutorial, he puts agency in the player's hand, he'll equip just about any item, he has an obvious party role as a white mage, etc. These are quite normal things in most games - to be a tutorial person with an obvious role - but some aspects of this end up suspicious here as it's pointed out that other characters do not have this meta-knowledge. He corrects other tutorial guys on the battle system, he knows stuff he probably shouldn't, etc. And, given Undertale is a game where the Pacifist Route is the obviously-correct route, most people are coming into Deltarune with the assumption of pacifism.
    Susie is the opposite - She persistently and actively undermines the mechanics of the game for her own purposes. Susie ignores your commands and acts on her own in chapter 1. She is the one who imposes herself on the game system and does things like forcibly change her own class and impose new ACT options in the battle system. She has by a wide margin the largest amount of equipment she just refuses to interact with. Susie will make decisions you have no say in, often undermining your own choices in favour of hers, which is largely unique among the current party members. And even within battle, Susie's Rude Buster deals extra damage with a timed hit - making her somewhat unusual, as no one else has this mechanic thus far. And, in a game where violent options are still largely optional, here very role as the party's tank and DPS is a little niche and in need of a role at times.
    So it's like... Ralsei establishes game concepts and rules. Susie tears those same rules down. And that's really interesting to me.
    Really curious how it all plays out. Like, maybe these two will balance each other, and Susie will become less rebellious and Ralsei less rigid. Or, maybe they will meet at an impasse and you will be forced to go with one or the other in some kind of route split that breaks the party.

    • @dumbassgoth
      @dumbassgoth 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      do you know of any more of ralseis lucifer references?
      im curious now i dont think i remember

    • @i010001
      @i010001 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      Sure. So like...​
      - First, the standard Boss Monster aesthetic in this series is something which seems intended to evoke demon imagery. You know - Bipedal goats, magic-users, fangs, often reddish eyes, etc. Ralsei himself even has a more androgynous presentation, which is a often trait of Baphomet and Lucifer in particular (Especially depictions of Lucifer in Anime)
      - He is, at various points, called permutations of "Dark Prince." One of Lucifer's titles is the Prince of Darkness, especially in Paradise Lost
      - This one is subtle, but the location of his castle. You drop down from below the closer into a creepy, empty dark world and keep going lower and lower through it. At the very bottom - below even the town around it (the game is specific that the castle is below Castle Town and not overlooking it as you would expect) - is Ralsei's Castle. So he exists at the very bottom of this weird alternate world which seems to itself be 'below' the earth.
      - It's more directly aimed at Kris, but the king calls us "Lightbringer." This is what "Lucifer" means literally.
      - If you equip the Jevilstail to him, he rather curiously says "I'm a GOOD Devil, okay?"
      - He actually Be Not Afraids you when you first meet, like an angel. And you first meet him standing on a Deltarune symbol. Some of his other weird traits - the seemingly impossible-to-acquire knowledge, his weird multi-winged motif in the castle, for example - may also evoke angels. Lucifer, of course, is a fallen angel who led a rebellion against heaven
      - His primary goal is to banish the Angel's Heaven which will appear at the end of the world. His adversary being Heaven is obviously rather notable.
      - This isn't really a parallel, but sorta relevant. If you give him a HeartsDonut, he's the only character to be kinda ambivalent towards it despite it being full of blood
      That's off the top of my head. What does this all mean?
      ...Well. Maybe it's some Deepest Lore and Ralsei is some kind of fallen angel and this all ties in with the Roaring
      ...Or, you know, maybe he's also just Kris' childhood red-horned headband. Which is, you know, probably one of those Devil Headbands you see sometimes. This would explain why Ralsei looks like a Dreemur, and seems unerringly patient and kind even with his Satan allegories.

    • @dumbassgoth
      @dumbassgoth 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@i010001 oh wow thats super fascinating!!! thank u!!

    • @demi-femme4821
      @demi-femme4821 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      "Alright gang, let's see what this game REALLY is!"
      *Shin Megami Tensei: Undertale edition*
      "Welp. Guess I'll have to kill Ralsei.

    • @wildfire9280
      @wildfire9280 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      ⁠@@i010001 Chapter 2’s “villain” gives off the sense that this isn’t even out of the tutorial stage yet.
      …I don’t know what that has to do with this comment, but I typed that several minutes ago and have no idea what prompted it.

  • @ceriisu
    @ceriisu 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +172

    this video is incredible oh my god! you articulated so many of the thoughts ive had about their dynamic so well! this fandom is kinda lacking in good character analysis videos and you have filled the void in my ralsei and susie obsessed heart

    • @ceriisu
      @ceriisu 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      also incredibly based nao pfp

    • @astuffedalpaca5365
      @astuffedalpaca5365  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      @@ceriisuyttd fan spotted in the wild

    • @derpsdeluxe
      @derpsdeluxe 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      100% agree! Also I didn’t notice the Nao pfp until you pointed it out and I cannot express how happy it makes me

  • @BelBelle468
    @BelBelle468 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +59

    9:44 you bring up a good point about the dad. I’m not 100% sure Ralsei spawned recently, since he says he’s been around for a while (and I kinda believe him?), it’s more that he has never had much of a life to begin with. Being alone for so long has likely made him desperate and wants to focus on the good things. Hence why he seems more ready to let Lancer’s dad out if he promises not to hurt anyone. Meanwhile, Susie likely had a bad home life and as such completely distrusts the king as a father figure.
    I actually don’t think the king is a bad guy. Lancer speaks of him without malice, mentions certain rules he’s set in place that are typical parenting stuff (don’t make a mess, get home before dinner, etc.). But I do think he’s neglectful and takes out his hurt from the lightners onto others. Seeing what they each decide to focus on is interesting

    • @astuffedalpaca5365
      @astuffedalpaca5365  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      haha yeah the ralsei spawning 3 days ago thing was more of a joke castle town is probably several years old at least. I imagine we’ll learn about its creation at some point?

    • @leifcasanova3097
      @leifcasanova3097 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Okay so what’s Kris is deal? Do they just think like Ralsei or also kinda distrust them for reasons unclear? I feel like him being grabbed by the king would probably be traumatizing by thinking your adventure ended right then and there

  • @syrka_who
    @syrka_who 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +170

    A lot of relationship dynamics in deltarune (and Undertale... and other media) are very underrated. I'm so glad someone talks about it!
    And I also want to see more Lancer/Ralsei interactions

    • @astuffedalpaca5365
      @astuffedalpaca5365  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +53

      I used to have a headcanon that the reason Ralsei’s ch2 outfit has a spade when it didn’t before is because Lancer helped him make a new dress… it doesn’t actually work since Lancer doesn’t come to Castle Town until Kris takes him the next morning but oh well

    • @syrka_who
      @syrka_who 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      @@astuffedalpaca5365 omg that's so cute 😭
      That is canon for me, i don't care

    • @Krispykreme15
      @Krispykreme15 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      Or like he just has a closet full of slightly different dresses/cloaks lol

  • @EscapeReality123
    @EscapeReality123 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    I don't understand why the entire Undertale/Deltarune community decided to randomly wake up and start theorizing again, but I missed it so much! We only got 2 chapters of Deltarune so far, but it already seems to be one of the most complex story I have ever seen. There i so many topics to cover up, so I'm glad that we are rolling!

  • @hyperdreamer9483
    @hyperdreamer9483 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    Honestly I’m starting to wonder something, if over the story Ralsei will start getting so attached to his friends that he’ll never want them to leave again. Not because he’s evil but because he loves them so much, as the say the path to hell is often paved with good intentions. He see how much his friends love the Dark World, so he tries to make it even more inviting making stuff for them to make them want to stay longer and possibly forever at one point.

  • @KhanShotFirst
    @KhanShotFirst 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +85

    Whoo, finally a video on the absolute SHITSHOW hanging over our harem protagonist dragon's head completely unmentioned!
    I feel like she'll get hardcomboed by the info about about darkners, kris, and ralsei himself once she realizes how much she doesn't know, and spend a stint around chapter 5-6 just plain not having a good time as a result.
    Good reading of the relationship in general, though, highlighting her importance as the only person who asks ANY questions in the entire gang and giving ralsei's suspiciousness an even-handed look.

    • @cosmicspacething3474
      @cosmicspacething3474 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      What’s this about a Dragon’s head?

  • @WAHOO_PUG
    @WAHOO_PUG 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    When queen captured everyone but ralsei i thought i was gonna have an epic solo battle with our favorite floofy boi

  • @worldssmallestdestron7819
    @worldssmallestdestron7819 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I feel like Susie is going to go through the hero's journey. she had a call for adventure, refusal of the call, you get the gist. now what will be the "belly of the beast" for her...?

  • @CyborusYT
    @CyborusYT 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +99

    Great unique analysis, and great humor :D Very good job making this
    As to why it's the "delta warriors", I imagine it not as symbolizing Four, but instead the mathematical usage of delta: Change. That means the game is literally called "symbol of change" (delta -> change, rune -> symbol), which is strange if our choices aren't supposed to matter. That, or we the player are that symbol of change in a world that cannot make choices for itself. Or the angel is the symbol of change, that certainly seemed to be the case in Undertale. Some might even say those are the same, idk.
    maybe I should do more theory/analysis videos too...

    • @astuffedalpaca5365
      @astuffedalpaca5365  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

      my sister overheard me recording that part out of context and told me it was probably because the delta symbol is a triangle (still doesn’t explain why it’s the greek letter for 4…) but I kept it in since it was just a one-off bit. But the change thing is actually a really good point! I imagine toby fox had a little bit more reasoning in mind than “there’s three of them” when he decided to name it “the legend of deltarune”

    • @CyborusYT
      @CyborusYT 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      @@astuffedalpaca5365 With the insane levels of symbolism Toby manages to imbue things with, I wouldn't be surprised if the change idea and the triangle idea were both intentional.

    • @tigerbear5845
      @tigerbear5845 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      @@astuffedalpaca5365 Only 1 min and 30 seconds into the video but I lost my mind when you pointed out the delta=4 part because my thoughts basically were "Noelle's going to be the 4th one" or something idk but that's a really good point that kind of blew my mind.

    • @anameofmine
      @anameofmine 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@astuffedalpaca5365 I'm not totally sure, but I think part of the reason it's called the "delta rune" is because it depicts 4 people: Kris, Ralsei, Susie, and the angel, who is most likely us, the player.

    • @doom64hunter
      @doom64hunter 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      The two pointing up are the Lightner Heroes, Kris and Noelle, the single one pointing down is the Darkner Hero, Ralsei, and the Angel is Noelle.
      The player is the heart surrounding all four of them, symbolizing our control.

  • @lasagna3289
    @lasagna3289 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Delicious character analysis! Being constantly subjected to awful understandings of the characters is so painful, I'm so glad to see someone with such an understanding of the characters.

  • @worldssmallestdestron7819
    @worldssmallestdestron7819 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    11:30 I always thought of it as Flowey's "IT'S KILL OR BE KILLED KIDDO!"

  • @GameJam230
    @GameJam230 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    The interesting thing about Deltarune is that each character represents different traits of the kinds of people who play video games, since it IS a meta commentary on the consumption of media after all. Ralsei represents the rule followers and people who stick strictly to the path that was set out for them, Susie represents the contrarian who uses media as a form of escapism from the troubles of life, and intends to escape THEIR way and nobody else’s, Berdly is the super nerdy “um, actually 🤓” stereotype, and Noelle is the glitch finder and lore hunter who’s obsessed with cryptids (like us with Gaster).
    Kris is an interesting story, because being the silent protagonist who is bound to the whim of the player, they very much seem like the “doesn’t fit into any one category” role, which sort of makes sense since Kris removing the soul and their relationship with Spamton seems to suggest they reject the idea of destiny and control. Kris doesn’t want to follow the path set by somebody else, they want to follow their own path, which makes them pretty closely related to Noelle, with the difference being that Kris isn’t doing it for the fascination with game breaking, but rather because they want the freedom to explore and be free of rules. But, the shared interest in rejecting the set path is exactly why Kris and Noelle have such a strong relationship, and why Spamton is such a big part of BOTH of their stories.
    Deltarune is literally “Which Disney Princess Are You?” Quizzes, the game

  • @braydenzoeller7843
    @braydenzoeller7843 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    On the topic of Susie being replaceable, Ralsei is too, as Lancer is also a prince from the dark, being the son of the king and all.

  • @FeliksTheGoblin
    @FeliksTheGoblin 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +54

    God wtf why do you have such small reach??? I’m incredibly autistic about deltarune and your theory crafting and video quality are some of the best on the platform???

    • @astuffedalpaca5365
      @astuffedalpaca5365  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      this is my first video essay (and first video in 7 months) and I only had 64 subs prior to this, so I’m honestly surprised by the reach is HAS gotten. but thank you that’s all very flattering!!

  • @remythemanniquin
    @remythemanniquin 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

    OH MY GOD. YOU'RE SO SMART. I LOVE THIS ANALYSIS SOSO MUCH. I LOVE THE CHARACTER FOCUSED ANGLE ESPECIALLY YOUR ANALYSIS OF RALSEI. Also i laughed outloud at you saying susie is a straight man not in the sexuality sense but in a cosmic horror sense thats such a good way of looking at it.

    • @astuffedalpaca5365
      @astuffedalpaca5365  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      remy spotted (thank you

    • @remythemanniquin
      @remythemanniquin 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@astuffedalpaca5365 you never know when you're going to find me

  • @remythemanniquin
    @remythemanniquin 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    ok sorry this is my fifth time rewatching this and im just amazed because your jokes dont get old they consistently make me chuckle. this combined with the newsletter will help fuel the ut/dr special interest part of my brainhole

    • @medea__witchhh
      @medea__witchhh 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      same. i use this video to fall asleep to lol.

    • @0nikolaigogol0
      @0nikolaigogol0 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      :00 chuuya pfp ^^

  • @wildfire9280
    @wildfire9280 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    “I order you to stop taking orders.”
    “Okay!”
    “WAIT STOP!”
    “Okay!”

  • @whitedude877
    @whitedude877 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    It's immensely refreshing to see a Deltarune theory that has nothing to do with that egghead son of a gun. And not just refreshing for the sake of it, you covered a really interesting subject that really whets my appetite for what's to come. Susie seems to be able to influence everybody around her very naturally; Berdley, Noelle, Ralsei, Lancer. And while it took a whole chapter, Susie has taken to the role of hero quite well, whereas Kris is only really a hero of any sort because we were forced into Kris against his and our will. How will Susie react when she finds out the truth about that? How will Ralsei and Susie's relationship change the more he garners his own identity? Really a great video dude, and from out of nowhere.

  • @4risen4new
    @4risen4new 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    This is one of the most insightful reads I've seen yet about Ralsei's characterization and motives; you're absolutely right in that people underestimate Susie as a lens through which to understand him. You do a fantastic job sticking to the known facts, and I would love to see more analyses from you in the future :)

  • @chuckbungus7032
    @chuckbungus7032 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    The dynamic between these too has a lot to offer. I'm glad to see someone shinning some light on it.

  • @RyeBreadFF
    @RyeBreadFF 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    The idea of Noelle potentially replacing Ralsei also makes sense in terms of visual design.
    Together, Kris, Susie, and Ralsei are represented by Blue, Red(?), and Green light. These three colors are the colors of light. If you ever wondered what RGB refers to, there ya go. Those three colors, when combined in certain amounts, can create any other color, and all three together create bright white.
    HOWEVER, the same also applies to a different set of three colors; Cyan, Magenta, and Yellow. These three colors are often associated with Kris, Susie, and Noelle respectively. Even with Ralsei gone, the color palettes of everyone work together well.
    Notably, Cyan, Magenta, and Yellow (CMYK) all combine to make dark black. Maybe this represents Kris and Susie embracing the creation of more dark fountains? Hopefully we’ll see sometime soon!

    • @XXisotopeXX
      @XXisotopeXX หลายเดือนก่อน

      I hope not. I don't like Noelle all that much

  • @CalamitasCalliope
    @CalamitasCalliope 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    This is a very good video! I have so many thoughts about Ralsei, all of them bundled up in my own little theory about him. He's such a funny little guy

  • @ChaosEnthusiast
    @ChaosEnthusiast 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    i was always weirded out by the "were made to serve lightners" line, and i wonder why not many ppl have talked abt it

  • @Sploberrie
    @Sploberrie 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    My pretty wholesome prediction for the ending is that Susie will demand to keep the item that Ralsei is in the light world (my bets are on green crayon) for herself because of how much she cherished the friendship with him.

  • @JuiceEnthusiast-kw9wd
    @JuiceEnthusiast-kw9wd 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Great editing, well-timed humor, and some really interesting character analysis forming a perspective I haven't considered before. This was a great watch!

  • @thatguywholikesfood3514
    @thatguywholikesfood3514 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    Amazing work!
    I'd say you're probably right about quite a bit!
    Personally, I think that it's going to come down to you having a choice, and while the ending is the same, what comes next / the context behind it is different.
    Eg, the roaring happens and you beat it regardless, but what happens next is way more darker if you've done, say, nothing but snowgrave-esque routes, etc.

  • @itmightbevid
    @itmightbevid 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    12:09 not certain if this is important to this theory but i really love the implication that Kris is the one that "your choices don't matter" applies to.
    In a way it created a common goal between kris and the player, to make their choices matter. Kris is doing this by opening a dark world and keeping susie at their house, and the player is doing this through snowgrave

  • @nasinnarcotics
    @nasinnarcotics 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank you for making a video on Ralsei and Susie’s relationship without obnoxiously trying to ship them 🙏 this is a great analysis of their dynamic! I never really noticed before that Susie is put in the center of the prophecy cutscenes!

  • @caguay
    @caguay 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Fantastic video, your ideas are so well articulated! This relationship is almost never talked about online and it is quite puzzling.
    I'll have to reluctantly admit that these two are a personal favorite and I ended up shipping them together at some point, but that's just how my mind likes to mess around with characters like dolls. Thing is, that's obviously never going to be canon, but when it comes to online discussions around character relationships and pairings, no one ever brings these two up (whatever the implied nature of their bond is given each discussion), because everything you mentioned here goes criminally overlooked by the fandom.
    Susie and Ralsei's dynamic is full of interesting details, themes and juxtapositions. Their friendship feels genuinely earned when we consider how it started, and they complement each other delightfully well. It's intriguing to think of how that could play into the overarching plot of deltarune in the long run, and what it's already reflecting from the core ideas in the game. Thanks for sharing this, it was a joy from start to finish!

  • @tehcodekid8421
    @tehcodekid8421 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    It’s nice to see the UTDR fandom still has some new things to say and talk about

  • @MysteryKar
    @MysteryKar หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    theyre called delta warriors because a delta is a triangle - three heroes, and delta is often used as a symbol for change in math

  • @Bleats_Sinodai
    @Bleats_Sinodai 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I've had the suspicion since Chapter 1 that Susie is the actual protagonist of the game, but whatever Gaster's experiment did to this world, it has caused a shift in the narrative, and allowed us to affect the choices through Kris. This would explain how she can take over choices and go off on her own, it's *her* story.

  • @tidalrose26
    @tidalrose26 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    God, not only is this video a wonderful analysis, it also contains some of the best sentences I’ve ever heard. “I will bake you entire cakes if you stop calling me gayboy please” nearly killed me on the spot.

  • @cheeselad2401
    @cheeselad2401 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    10:15
    "i will bake you entire cakes if you stop calling me gayboy"
    cackled

  • @phxcake4012
    @phxcake4012 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    HEY DETERMINATORS MENTION!!!! also great video :D also also gosh yeah despite everything i hope that theyre friendship remains intact by the end. the thing about ralsei avoiding negative things is a bit funny considering thats also just an aspect of escapism, or it can be. its escapism in the full sense, and despite how noelle and susie and berdly and maybe kris all seem to enjoy the dark worlds using escapism to well. escape the light world and everything that comes from it, the fact that ralsei uses that mindset but it has the opposite effect almost (post spamton neo?) just showcases the Layers to it. uhh i hope ralsei becomes more of his own person i hope susie gains more self love and yeah! i was going to say somethhing on the fandom before chapter 2 but i forgot. also in general thanks for making a ralsei and susie video, one because susie is overlooked in theories in general and two finally not a ralsei is evil or kris is evil video. every day i wake up. ALSO I DIDNT NOTICE THE HEAVENLY LIGHT THING + THE DEVIL AND ANGEL SYMBOLISM? also susie making that her own thing is super super cool and im glad you saw that

    • @pringlecontainer2528
      @pringlecontainer2528 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Rip determinators miss you everyday king/queen/monarch 😔🕊

  • @zeman156
    @zeman156 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    This video was so good, i will never complain about more people making deltarune channels, Keep it up!

  • @v1x4570
    @v1x4570 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I haven't watched much deltarune related content in a bit and i kinda forgot why i liked the game so much but this analysis randomly got recommended to me and it was a nice reminder, good video

  • @characookie241
    @characookie241 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    "Straight man in a cosmic horror sense" is the funniest thing i've heard this week.

  • @leotorol
    @leotorol 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Banger video essay. Nice edition and superb script.
    You just made me realize that the characters actually have a ton more layers than I actually thought. And that Ralsei is actually not evil just doesn't have any social abilities xd

  • @ArtemisWasHere
    @ArtemisWasHere 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    17:58 she does have a stat labeled “rudeness”

  • @DartGS
    @DartGS 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I've been a fan of deltarune sence oct 31, And this is the best analysis of ralsei ive Watched, good job man you did good

  • @viibo3207
    @viibo3207 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    wowowow really good analysis!! ralseis always been my fav so i loved hearing abt how he fits in w themes of the game as well as susie and their relationship :3 the dtr/ut content drought is So real, it’s one of those series that i Love but only think about when i’m reminded of it, this vid was a wonderful reminder!

    • @woopi8003
      @woopi8003 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Have you played Undertale Yellow yet? The content drought is infinitely more bearable with all the fanworks coming out now haha, there were like 3 major releases in the past few months.

    • @viibo3207
      @viibo3207 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@woopi8003 I HAVE SEEN IT YEAH i cant play it myself i dont have a pc

  • @Zenala
    @Zenala 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    This is amazing for your (from what I can see) first video essay/analysis! I love how this is paced, and your script is very good to follow :D
    My only recommendation is to let things on the screen a little longer as you're mentioning them, since I've had to go back on the video a dozen times because I couldn't pause fast enough when you put something relevant on the screen. Other than that, keep doing this, you're very good and you've seem to have many things to say! You have a new subscriber :)
    Also- theory-wise, I do think "the prince of dark" role COULD be replaced by Lancer. He is from what we know just as much a prince as Ralsei, if not more since all we have from Ralsei is his word while Lancer is literally the son of a king. It's always been weird to me how this role's drawing is the only that doesn't read like any character (Human and Monster look a lot like Kris and Susie) so I feel like that's going to be important eventually

    • @astuffedalpaca5365
      @astuffedalpaca5365  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      thank you!! I was also concerned with that when I was editing the video, sometimes I would speed up the clips so the dialogue I was referencing could appear in time, but I was worried it would look noticeably faster from how the game usually plays and didn’t do it a lot. (It might be helpful for me to sometimes just use screenshots of the dialogue instead of footage). I edited this using capcut and on mobile you can’t mass select video/audio clips, which made moving stuff around a very tedious task. so I think I’ll try a different app next time.
      While functionally a prince, Lancer is only called one once and is otherwise just called the king’s son. since he has his own visual in the legend and turns to stone unlike ralsei, I don’t think he could actually be the prince from the dark but the possibility of him being it may be a plot point regardless.
      you’re right about the figure representing the prince being more vague, but I do think it’s ralsei. of course there’s the fact that he’s still wearing the hood when he delivers the prophecy, but I think the fireballs surrounding him are relevant too, with him being a boss monster, and toby saying in an old interview (the same one that alludes to susie’s healing getting better) that he originally wanted a certain character to have fire powers “but decided against that for chapter 1”. I do think the fact that the figure is so vague is important in the sense that it does cast doubt on who ralsei really is and also could represent how he lacks a sense of self outside of fulfilling this vague idea of a prince.

  • @krystelbeaulieu-thibault3621
    @krystelbeaulieu-thibault3621 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Huh....i had completly forgotten that she didn't know about Darkners being items....now i dread the moment of her knowing.

  • @UltraViolet_Moses
    @UltraViolet_Moses 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This was really well written and put together, I’ve only just finished chapter 1 and 2 a few days ago and the theory binge has been so addicting. More than that though it’s refreshing to hear someone talk on a lot of the subtler interactions between these two, that’s always the bit that I find the most fascinating (apart from their absolutely fckin hilarious dichotomies and funny moments). Great video!

    • @UltraViolet_Moses
      @UltraViolet_Moses 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I also cant help but notice the Nao PFP, with your Humor and writing style any sort of character analysis/essays on YTTD would be incredible

    • @astuffedalpaca5365
      @astuffedalpaca5365  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ⁠​⁠@@UltraViolet_Mosesmaybe one day! I don’t have any specific ideas for yttd essays but it seems like the final part is coming out relatively soon (there was a steam announcement) so we’ll see!

    • @UltraViolet_Moses
      @UltraViolet_Moses 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@astuffedalpaca5365 yesss I can’t wait to see how it ends, but honestly I hope my heart can handle it

  • @LilyCat2399
    @LilyCat2399 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Uh i don't know exactly what to say but ONLINE VALIDATION GIVEN. Loved this video. It's rare to see people talk about susie and ralsie's relationship and you brought up important stuff.

  • @chriswillis5541
    @chriswillis5541 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    This is such a breath of fresh air compared to all the other complicated (yet very cool) deltarune videos i’ve seen recently, I’ve always loved analysis videos especially ones on friendship so this was nice to see, I don’t know why but I felt so relaxed watching this, hell I barely like commenting on videos unless I have a question but I feel like I had to give my appreciation
    AND THIS IS YOUR FIRST VIDEO ESSAY TOO (I think?) this is really good work 👍

  • @Theneongreninja
    @Theneongreninja 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I think the way things are gonna pay off at the end of the game is that the same events will still happen at the end but depending on your choices it will feel more uplifting or more somber. The ending is the same no matter what you do, but there’s a noticeable difference in how happy the characters will be at the end.

  • @existenceispain_geekthesiren
    @existenceispain_geekthesiren 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    for a moment i was confused by that DELTA WARRIORS question- that feels obvious, yeah, why ARE they called that if there are only three of them?
    until i realized, there aren't. there's kris, ralsei, susie... and us.

  • @duccthatwaddles
    @duccthatwaddles 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    @10:14 to @10:20 is my favorite part of your analysis.
    Jokes aside though, it was a really nice video. I especially like all the art you inserted. I look forward to seeing how Susie & Ralsei's relationship develops, and I appreciate you pointing out how it could go wrong.

  • @poisonousbobalina
    @poisonousbobalina 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I adore this! I've always noticed the differences between Ralsei and Susie's personal volition and agency, but you really shed a lot of light onto how these things could change- and maybe even clash -over time. This was a fantastic essay!

  • @syrka_who
    @syrka_who 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    There's no way that's your first video essay

  • @jenifergarcia327
    @jenifergarcia327 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    i'm so sorry but the statement "lancer clearly has a bad relationship with his dad otherwise why would he reverse-adopt this twink?" made me CHOKE on air omg
    otherwise this is an amazing analysis and brings out an aspect of the game most people do overlook and reframes the game in a wholesome way

  • @Bupropionville
    @Bupropionville 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    10:11 I like your take on this! I interpreted Susie's request for the deal again as her not wanting to/caring to make fun of Ralsei anymore and/or begin to be nicer/be a good friend, like for herself and the people around her.

  • @TheLateLordKardok
    @TheLateLordKardok 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This puts to words a lot of thoughts I had about Deltarune that I couldn't really express. Thanks so much for making this video.

  • @llllllllemon
    @llllllllemon 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    this video is great but NAO PROFILE PIC!! AMAZING!!!! anyways i love the susie-ralsei dynamic so much thank you for this video

  • @redgamer2754
    @redgamer2754 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    For the Ralsei POV shift
    I am 100% sure that in chapter 2, if you don't watch the Suselle Wheel Cutscene, there's no loading screen. Susie just geronimo's herself onto Ralsei, without his explanation. So, this implies that Ralsei altered the perception of time so that he can chat with Kris. Is it a crack theory. Yes. Do I believe in it? Also yes.

    • @FirstnameLastname-sb3hj
      @FirstnameLastname-sb3hj 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      but if no time passed in that moment, how could he possibly have a conversation?

    • @redgamer2754
      @redgamer2754 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@FirstnameLastname-sb3hj that's what I'm saying. He warped the fabric of space and time for him to chat with the depressed blue guy with a knife fetish. He basically time travels

    • @FirstnameLastname-sb3hj
      @FirstnameLastname-sb3hj 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@redgamer2754 then that would be altering the *flow* of time, not the perception. or time travel, like you said. altering the perception of time would mean, for example, making a single second feel like an hour. this would not actually allow you to move 360 times faster, as all that has changed is the rate at which your brain processes the information. the idea that ralsei possesses the ability to alter the flow of time seems ridiculous to me, as its an ability which seems overpowered, and also doesn't seem relevant to him. essentially, why would he have that power?
      its far more likely all he did was give a sort of vision, which may include an altered perception of time (i.e. allowing you to experience a past event entirely within only a few seconds) but would not include the ability to time travel

    • @redgamer2754
      @redgamer2754 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@FirstnameLastname-sb3hj I understand what you are saying, and I agree with your conclusion, but you have failed to consider the fact that the people-pleaser goat boy having godly powers that he uses to have some smalltalk with his depressed boss is absurdly ridicculous to me specifically.
      Basically I agree but reject it because it's less fun.

    • @FirstnameLastname-sb3hj
      @FirstnameLastname-sb3hj 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@redgamer2754 i can respect that, but its not for me personally. for me, ralsei having god-like powers *wouldn't* be cool, exactly because its not consistent. it has to tie into things and make sense, otherwise its meaningless.
      the way i see it, things only have meaning in the context of other things

  • @Miju001
    @Miju001 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    13:18 The pie thing had ALL the impact. If Kris hadn't eaten the pie, Susie wouldn't have been invited to bake a new one and Kris wouldn't have opened the fountain. My theory is that getting rid of our SOUL allows Kris to save and reset and that let them engineer that specific scenario through trial and error

  • @pelpel788
    @pelpel788 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    great video!!! i’m always so glad to see even-handed, well thought-out character analysis for utdr, as opposed to the endless, grand theory videos. it’s a surprisingly underrepresented venue despite toby’s character and relationship work being so solid! hope to see more from you!

  • @jojonono2679
    @jojonono2679 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great video. Glad to see more character dynamic analysis.

  • @-JohnDoe-
    @-JohnDoe- 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Fantastic. You used a truly fantastic sequence of building blocks to construct your points with. The fact that you cross-reference other existing material on the matter, use tons of in-game examples, and base your points off of established literary tropes shows that you have a good sense of a well-ordered debate.
    When Chapter 3 releases, I can't for you to dissect it too.

  • @mistycomet9760
    @mistycomet9760 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is fantastic, you really understand their characters in a way I dont always see in this fandom. I am now worried about the conflict coming for them though lol.

  • @emma_stuart
    @emma_stuart 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I love this video because it feels like you have a fresh take and you’re acknowledging things that are actually relevant to the narrative. Really thorough and high quality analysis, can’t wait for more vids from you!

  • @sino3318
    @sino3318 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    dude this video is so good!!! i loved the editing, the narration and the script ofc. hope to see more!! 💗

  • @dominickbabazadeh9
    @dominickbabazadeh9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    4:57 lancer is like the goblin in dnd you adopt, against the dms will

  • @patmkessler
    @patmkessler 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    "Why are they called delta warriors if there's three of them?" The Greek letter delta, ∆, is a triangular rune. It's used in physics and mathematics to represent change because it's the shape of a river delta (the point of change between river and sea).

  • @DoctorLeft
    @DoctorLeft 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I really liked this analysis and it made me think more about the point of Ralsei more than I had and far more about Susie. Susie kind of gets lost in the drama regarding Kris being both a character as well as a player character and Ralsei being so tied to the plot. Susie does feel like the character the story revolves around at times, in particular in Chapter 1 with her character growth. I think one of her clearer roles is to serve as an audience surrogate, it's a way for questions to get asked (often to Ralsei) about how things work while maintaining Kris' role as a silent protagonist.
    As for your speculation, I like the idea that a conflict between Susie and Ralsei is coming alongside each of them taking issue with Kris/the player's actions. I very often see theories that Ralsei will turn evil or has secretly been evil all along. I find them pretty unpalatable because then Ralsei really runs the risk of being a retread of Flowey's character turn but taking multiple hours instead of the first few minutes. I think that the characters being driven apart due to different morals or goals only to reunite in the end is the far more satisfying angle for the plot to go and I hope that's what happens.
    I do hope we get some more focused Susie content in future chapters. She gets a little bit of development in Chapter 2 but we also spend a big chunk of the chapter without her present. I personally would love to see more of her and Kris around hometown but I don't know how much that will happen.

  • @tacoeateryumyum
    @tacoeateryumyum 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    How are you gonna recruit in chapter three... is toriel really gonna let you just. Empty the house?

  • @metgaming9545
    @metgaming9545 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    1:32 “Why are they called the delta warriors if there’s only 3 of them??”
    The 4th party member, the player, who’s inside Kris the entire fucking game: 👁️👄👁️

  • @sociallyawkwardtrash
    @sociallyawkwardtrash 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    nao yttd pfp spotted. and the homestuck bucket comment will not go unoticed either. ANYWAYS this is probably one of the best deltarune analysis videos i've seen its up there with the queen being a representation of each party members mothers theory (which was also referenced in this video wowie). I guess i just appreciate how much of this theory is grounded in what we already know instead of thinking too hard about future chapters. very good video i hope it gets a gazillion views.

    • @astuffedalpaca5365
      @astuffedalpaca5365  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      tbh I read the first 10 pages of homestuck years ago and then dropped it I just learned about the bucket thing through internet osmosis haha

  • @pringlecontainer2528
    @pringlecontainer2528 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This was great!! I was super surprised when you mentioned joining the fandom post chapter 2 , your analysis and understanding of the characters is super reminiscent of a lot of og fans. Hope you keep it up for future chapters!
    (Also really appreciate your respect of Kris’ pronouns ❤️)

  • @tornado4376
    @tornado4376 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    THANK YOU we really should be talking about these two more, their dynamic really is so engaging and interesting and like you said, fans don't seem to give it enough credit or overlook it a lot. The way they challenge and change each other and help each other grow is so beautiful actually, and I cannot wait to see how this is taken forward in future chapters
    also lmao 'doormat' moment at 3:43

  • @Space_Pencil
    @Space_Pencil 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    You did a damn good job on analyzing these two. I feel like Susie doesn't really have very many videos looking into her character more, and you just did so well.
    This video was beautiful, and I'm excited to see what you have next in store, you've earned a new sub!

  • @skep2923
    @skep2923 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Very good! Their relationship is the one I kinda want to see more of.
    I was sort of sad we didn’t get to go to the fair with them in Chapter 2, but y’know, more Queen so I can’t complain.

  • @seven_A_twenty-two
    @seven_A_twenty-two 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    25:15 when kris gathered all the items
    it reminded me when noelle ask them both of what theyre doing
    because crime is one of the options
    it could be foreshadowing of what would happen if you recruit everyone in all the chapters?

    • @astuffedalpaca5365
      @astuffedalpaca5365  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Since Kris carried all those things by themselves without being noticed I think it’s something we’re meant to suspend our disbelief for and it won’t be plot relevant. But it would be really funny if it was… I wonder how them stealing things from their own home post chapter 3 is going to go

    • @chongwillson972
      @chongwillson972 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@astuffedalpaca5365
      kris stealing chairel and the TV is going to be wild.

  • @Karuvitomsk
    @Karuvitomsk 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    This might be the most considered and well-worded UT/DR content I've seen! A lot of people's analysis and speculation seems centered around specific unanswered questions or ideas or bits of lore which leads to odd conclusions that, IMO, don't seem plausible from a storytelling perspective. Not that that's all there is to it, but..
    Your analysis succeeds here, I think, because it's very much approaching things from that perspective -- character archetypes, plot beats, dramatic ironies, themes, all of the stuff that could actually tell us where the story's headed, at least in a broad sense.

  • @Clover298
    @Clover298 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    As for Susie fitting the hero’s journey better, she’s the one who does the “refusal of the call”, not Kris

  • @thegreasygrub5009
    @thegreasygrub5009 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Good video. I think the way you deconstructed these two characters was excellent and reminded me of why I found them so compelling. For the future, I'd look into getting a better mic. The high frequencies in the voice over are a little harsh, and with every other part of your videos being great I they would benefit a ton from decent audio quality.

    • @astuffedalpaca5365
      @astuffedalpaca5365  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      thank you! I actually have gotten a mic since this was made my most recent video uses one

  • @gretchling5012
    @gretchling5012 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    really good video. i especially like your description of susie as the game's "cosmic horror straight man." i think it's why a lot of people who are really deep into deltarune lore kind of neglect her somewhat (and i admit to being a bit guilty of this myself). but i really do think deltarune is, and will continue to be, her story.
    excited to see what you do next. good luck, and don't forget to have fun making videos! :)

  • @lostonessoul5154
    @lostonessoul5154 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    it's interesting. In a way you could compare Susie and Ralsei's relationship to a DnD trope I call "The Barbarian and the wizard". Basically take a tank class (Usually a Barbarian from what I've seen personally) and a magic using class (Usually a wizard of some kind from personal experience) in the same party. At the start the two will fight, and argue, maybe even try to kill each other, but over time they'll become friends. If what you say does come to light (Pun intended) in chapter 3, then quite possibly we could be seeing a trope I call "Change of class, change of life" basically say a Warlock gives up on there false god, at some point to repent for there horrible deeds as a warlock, they change into..say...a paladin. In this case we could be seeing Ralsei becoming more of a fighter, and Susie more of a healer. But I'm just a nerd on the internet so what do I know?

  • @rancidavocado2166
    @rancidavocado2166 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Yesss more kindle for the deltarune brain rot

  • @LyraJellybun
    @LyraJellybun 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Always love deltarune deepdive vids, Even if the fanbase is a little loopy rn I love the creativity, good stuff! :D

  • @Kenta_ink
    @Kenta_ink 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Absolutely love this video. Everything from the script, to your articulation and the presentation deserves WAY more subscribers. Hope you make more stuff, I'd love to watch!

  • @CalicoParade
    @CalicoParade 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    OH THIS VIDEO IS AWESOME!!!!!! it opened up a whole 'nother door to me of speculation and story beats for deltarune!! great job man, this video rocks

  • @pickaxe6742
    @pickaxe6742 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I've just finished watching all of your videos and they are seriously delightful !!!! You have an impressively analytical and unique perspective on this game, you truly understand ever little piece of evidence better than most other youtubers. This video helped me understand that Ralsei probably isn't as nefarious as the community has made him out to be, and I never noticed that he even had an arc in the first place. Really good work and I hope to see lots more of these deltarune videos from you because they are amazing !!!!!!!!