“No greater love hath a man than he lay down his life for his brother. Not for millions, not for glory, not for fame. For one person, in the dark where no one will ever know or see.”
eastwing329 Ivonava showed true emotion and Claudia Christian was so good in this scene. And it was so sad that Marcus sacrificed himself for her because he loved her so much.
I was so sorry when Marcus killed himself to save Ivanova...he might have been my favourite human character. But, it was SO incredibly noble and so 'Marcus' - it was also a perfect ending for him. And the scene above where Ivanova cries for her loss/his death...what a wonderfully written and astoundingly acted scene. Claudia Christian was SO perfect in it. It was almost like all the emotion her character could not show on the show up until then was channeled into this one scene. Yet she still did not go too far...just perfect.
He didn’t die in the novels he’s revived some time I think a few centuries later he’s told what happened they find a hair of hers on him and make a clone and then ends up on a paradise planet with the clone of her pretending that their was no chance of rescue
No matter how many times I've watched the segment at the end, it always makes me cry. When I saw it the first time, I had to stop the tape to compose myself. *Claudia* should have gotten an *_Emmy_* or a *_Golden Globe_* for her performance.
The scene where Susan is sharing her regrets with Dr. Franklin about not returning any love to dear dead loyal Marcus gets me every time. One of the most poignant scenes in any kind of show.
Ivanova had a life that hardened her and closed her from trusting someone.....her father who did not love her coping with the death of his wife from a telepathy-inhibiting drug and the death of her brother which promted him to disapprove of his daughters decision to join Earth Forces. Ivanova's former lover ended up being a xenophobe, Talia as a telepath died as a personality since she was experimented on to serve as an unwitting sleeper agent. She handled many years of stress like rebellion against earth. This left her internall vulnerable and she shielded herself against emotions entirely. This is very human.....not everybody deals with emotions this way.
Claudia Christian should have won an Oscar for this shit. Amazing acting, so incredibly sad. B5, at it's best kicked all other sci-fi out of the park because it was about real people, suffering. I cry every time I watch this.
There are two scenes in all of Babylon 5 which appear to be honest and natural and no trace of acting: this one and the one where Ivanova sits Shiva for her father. There's many great scenes in the show, but I don't think, from an acting standpoint, anything else in the series comes close to this. If I ever get to meet Claudia at a convention, I intend to ask her about this performance, and where she had to go in order to do this.
*Emmy - Oscars are for movies. But I do feel like B5 always received way less attention than it should have, especially given that it was the prototype for arc-based TV series that have now become the norm in television.
@@roguishpaladin not the prototype for arc based story telling. As JMS has explained in some interviews, the long story arc format was new to American sci-fi but was already well established in other countries, such as with the UK's Doctor Who and Blake's 7.
Giving his life for hers was the only thing he could do, he couldn't risk the others saying no, trying to stop him, relying on them with time slipping away so fast. The best way for a ranger to die, for the one (he loved).
May Marcus find the peace in death that he never found in life. This show was all about legends...light against the dark... I cannot think of a better way to go out than to go out in than saving the one you love bringing just 1 moment of peace to your own restless conscious before you find another type of peace.
Their story, one of loving without expectation, loving sincerely, genuinely, is one of the most powerful expressions of it, I have seen in sci-fi. In the 90's we had a lot of great science fiction, and I fall back to the Deep Space Nine/Babylon 5 era. Their stories were that good. This one, is at the very top of that list. Bravo for all of the players in these scenes, some are not here anymore, but this here is a testament of what love, should be... Without expectation...and unconditional.
This scene still gets to me 5 years after watching it for the first time. So poignant. Marcus's line about the bed is soo sad and helpless, all he could do.
This truly went to the power of her character that she went from anger regret sorrow and then in all the tears and agony to humor with she could have at least boffed him I was in tears during this episode and the end of the last and when she said that I just died laughing truly she deserved an award for this scene if not the rest of her amazing time on b5
10:30 to 10:50, possibly the most heartbreaking realization one human can have about another. I am convinced that there are real relationships that have sundered because of things like this.
Marcus' body is frozen & in 500 years he is revived & he clones a strand of her hair found on his person. He then downloads the recored and stored memories of Ivanova into the clone and they live happily ever after. It's in a short story written by JMS. He wanted to give Marcus & Ivanova the happy ending the fans felt they deserved. Drew Iron Tears down Great Pluto's Cheek. He made Hell grand what love did seek.
@@SantomPh It''s 300 years later. So 200 years before the Great Burn. Also, he crashes them on another planet with (I presume) no intelligent life intending they live out the rest of their lives on a beach together. I can only hope he gave himself a vasectomy before doing this because two people aren't enough to breed a new colony of humans and it wouldn't be fair to their children.
Probably one of my he saddest yet truly amazing moments in sci fi history Marcus held true to his love and his oath as a ranger he honored his duty and love to bad more people weren’t like that the world would be a better place
He held true to his oath? He deserted his post in time of battle. And took the ship with him. Marcus put his heart above his duty and responsibility as a Ranger. As was said in Season 5... "He joined the Anla'shok for the wrong reasons. Because of guilt over the death of his brother. He wasn't looking for a way to serve. He was seeking a way to atone. " Read more: www.springfieldspringfield.co.uk/view_episode_scripts.php?tv-show=babylon-5&episode=s05e05
Man the last time I sae this scene wss back in the nineties. Still breaks my heart. Marcus and Suzan. The promise of their lives together was so glorious, we were looking forward to when they would finally get together. And then this. See, THIS is good writing. And fenomenal acting!
Perhaps the saddest love story in all of literature. Marcus was such a wonderful character. I was sad to see him go. I really wanted to see Susan and him to get together.
In my experience, there has been two BRILLIANTLY ACTED AND WRITTEN SERIES I have loved: B5 and The West Wing. I feel honoured to have witnessed them both in my life...
If the Emmys weren't so snobby towards sci-fi/fantasy shows, I'd say Claudia Christian deserved one for her rather heartbreaking talk with Franklin. And it's funny, at Dragon*Con a few years back, Jason mentioned that he found it odd that he was rushing off to do this for Susan, but why the heck did he have to knock all the guards out? JMS has said that he might have kept Jason on the show had he known Claudia wasn't coming back. I ALWAYS wondered why nobody thought to possibly ask as much of the crew as possible to "donate" some of their life to save her, negating having Marcus give up his life entirely. Hmmm....fanfic idea coming up....
+ladycplum I commented on another Babylon 5 video here on TH-cam that the Arthurian legends were clearly an influence on several episodes of Babylon 5 (the most obvious, of course, being "A Late Delivery From Avalon"). I think Marcus Cole was another manifestation of this because he embodies many of the characteristics (courage, nobility, intelligence, generosity, etc.) of the quintessential medieval knight all the way up to his chastity, his unrequited love for and faithfulness to Ivanova, and his willingnes to sacrifice his life for hers. The writers even gave him a line in "Late Delivery From Avalon" in which Marcus rather jokingly compares himself to Sir Galahad...but the similarity is actually remarkably apt.
I've never heard that from JMS. The Lurkers Guide has season 4 filming completed before JMS knew that CC was leaving. The only thing that had to be changed was one line in the voiceover about Ivanova taking command of the new ship.
Device was not set up to allow more than 1 "donor" and it works by taking on the illness or injury you're trying to heal. You can't break your neck just a little bit. Believe me, if Franklin and Sheridan had thought that that was possible they wouldn't have banned the thing.
The question of the security guards is answered easily. They most surely tried to stop Marcus from getting his hands on the device (since it was restricted, after all).
A strong reminder to us all: try to be open to all possibilities for love. You won't know until its too late when a chance for love and happiness has past you by because you were closed to the idea. Ask me how I know. Fantastic scene from a fantastic program. No CGI. No explosions. No grand armies fighting each other. Just great concepts, great writing, and great acting.
He didn't die. In the ending credits of the last episode we see the characters as they were early in the series and how they were at the end. For Marcus there's some kind of cerificate which you might assume is a death certificate. But if you look close you realize it isn't. It's a certificate of cryogenic suspension. If you want to know what happened next, JMS wrote a short story called "Space, Time and the Incurable Romantic".
Amazing scene. And she was so amazing in it. I always thought she was a bit miscast. I saw other things this actress did and she played REALLY emotional SO well. But this role kept her buttoned down. She did well with what she had. But it is too bad she was not given more heavy scenes like this...for I think there lay her true talent as an actress.
That was the character. And I think she did a great job with it, especially BECAUSE she was normally so emotional in her scenes. This gave her a chance to be the cool, collected character. And that made this emotional scene SO MUCH MORE PAINFUL to watch, because Ivanova DIDN'T do that. So when she finally did, it hurt.
"The Lord bless thee, and keep thee: The Lord make his face shine upon thee, and be gracious unto thee: The Lord lift up his countenance upon thee, and give thee peace." - Numbers 6:24-26 - KJV.
I missed the episode before this when it first aired. I went from Sheridan being rescued from capture and tortune and the cliffhanger on attacking Earth and Susan paralyzed on a death bed to this scene. I was lost and it still wrecked me.
Goodness is not goodness that seeks advantage. Good is good in the final hour, in the deepest pit, without hope, without witness, without reward. Virtue is only virtue in extremis.
*¡Claudia Christian was born Claudia Ann Coghlan on Tuesday, 10 August 1965!* 11:41 am Pacific Daylight Savings Time on Tuesday, 19 October 2021 Common Era or CE formerly known as Ano Domini or AD
6:52 - To Think that Claudia was nominated for a Saturn Award for her work on Season 4 of Babylon 5, it sad that this scene of Ivanova and Franklin discussing the death of Marcus, stating that she knew how much he loved her, wasn't enough to help her win... there needs to be a Award Given Just for this moment alone
You missed one of the best bits where she repeats what he had said earlier, explains she has a great memory and then states, since she knows (some) Minbari, she thanks him for the "greeting"
Very sweet. However, the best Interaction, is between Delen and G'gar, over the Minbari Wars. Still makes me cry, as it was an honest response to real life, Babylon 5, way a Grown up Story
This scene and the one with Delenn and G'Kar in Delenn's quarters are the two most sadest scenes in B5. The two actress should have won emmies for those scenes. I miss B5.😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Bruce L. Phillis I agree that they should have won emmies for their acting. The dinner scene and the goodbye in the last episode are much sadder though.
I wish JMS instead of writing a short story set 500years in the future. JMS wrote a story about Ivanva searching for a way to revive Marcus; make that one of Ivanvas life long goals after Marcus is put in Cryostatis
After watching this, please read "Space, Time, and the Incurable Romantic" shot story written by J. Michael Straczynski himself. You will find out that there is happy ending for Marcus and Ivanova after all.
Alexander Benkendorf If somebody else had written it, I would have agreed with you. However, since it was written by J Michael Straczynski himself, and for B5, I don't agree.
Her is where I fall in the chain of command. That poster is something. Or how about when she finds out the meaning of the mimbari he spoke. Or tells a mimbari to speed the word not to laugh at her self taught mimbari.
Every time I view the screen of Ivanovo crying about death Marcus, I cry. I am 73 years old. Do let the lord governments take you to war, War is for profit and YOU do not profit! If politicians can not tell you WHY, politicians has FAILED his/her elected job
A part of me thought Marcus was overdoing it with the machine and he should have set it so that Ivanova would survive and but not completely healed and they would heal her slowly with the machine over time. The setting isn't just instantly death to heal.
And the brilliance of writing where right in the middle of a heart-wrenching scene they could toss in the humorous line "...at least I should have boffed him just once..." Any less of a writer or actor that would have killed the whole scene.
“No greater love hath a man than he lay down his life for his brother. Not for millions, not for glory, not for fame. For one person, in the dark where no one will ever know or see.”
aye..jacks words
"Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends." - John 15:13
G'gar's response to Delen .
Ivanova crying over Marcus was one of the saddest things ever.
eastwing329 Ivonava showed true emotion and Claudia Christian was so good in this scene. And it was so sad that Marcus sacrificed himself for her because he loved her so much.
Ivanovo crying on the floor still gets me all these years later. Marcus & susan had the best chemistry. Should have went on the road as a comedy duo
Claudia Christian should have gotten an award for this performance. Pure passion and emotion. Superb!
I agree and cry every time I see this. Stunning acting.
I reckon a golden globe 🎉
"All love is unrequited Stephen, all of it" is a beautiful and heart-breaking line.
Lennier: "Today, Ivanova said all love is unrequieted"
Delenn: "She's wrong, of course"
Lennier: "Of course..."
So true.😞
Look at your first love. Your parents if you were lucky enough to have them.
I was so sorry when Marcus killed himself to save Ivanova...he might have been my favourite human character. But, it was SO incredibly noble and so 'Marcus' - it was also a perfect ending for him.
And the scene above where Ivanova cries for her loss/his death...what a wonderfully written and astoundingly acted scene. Claudia Christian was SO perfect in it. It was almost like all the emotion her character could not show on the show up until then was channeled into this one scene. Yet she still did not go too far...just perfect.
One of the best deaths in all of science fiction.
It wasn't suicide. It was sacrifice.
@@Robert_Douglass He knew the way of the warrior more than any other cop.
He didn’t die in the novels he’s revived some time I think a few centuries later he’s told what happened they find a hair of hers on him and make a clone and then ends up on a paradise planet with the clone of her pretending that their was no chance of rescue
@@raulacosta-vega1044 yeah that whole clone bit was creepy and so un-Marcus to me.
No matter how many times I've watched the segment at the end, it always makes me cry. When I saw it the first time, I had to stop the tape to compose myself. *Claudia* should have gotten an *_Emmy_* or a *_Golden Globe_* for her performance.
Takes me back....."had to stop the TAPE ".
Same here....in fact....I'm crying right now.
The scene where Susan is sharing her regrets with Dr. Franklin about not returning any love to dear dead loyal Marcus gets me every time. One of the most poignant scenes in any kind of show.
REAL tragedy. But SI experienced being unconditionally loved
It was a touching scene and she was right..about giving him any attention or time..she knew he cared for her too.
I know she should have boffed him just once, Marcus deserved a boff at least!
Ivanova had a life that hardened her and closed her from trusting someone.....her father who did not love her coping with the death of his wife from a telepathy-inhibiting drug and the death of her brother which promted him to disapprove of his daughters decision to join Earth Forces. Ivanova's former lover ended up being a xenophobe, Talia as a telepath died as a personality since she was experimented on to serve as an unwitting sleeper agent.
She handled many years of stress like rebellion against earth. This left her internall vulnerable and she shielded herself against emotions entirely.
This is very human.....not everybody deals with emotions this way.
I still cry over this, almost 20 years later.
Claudia Christian should have won an Oscar for this shit. Amazing acting, so incredibly sad. B5, at it's best kicked all other sci-fi out of the park because it was about real people, suffering. I cry every time I watch this.
It truly is the best sci-fi show ever tbh. You don't really need to like sci-fi to appreciate this show honestly
Same here..
There are two scenes in all of Babylon 5 which appear to be honest and natural and no trace of acting: this one and the one where Ivanova sits Shiva for her father.
There's many great scenes in the show, but I don't think, from an acting standpoint, anything else in the series comes close to this.
If I ever get to meet Claudia at a convention, I intend to ask her about this performance, and where she had to go in order to do this.
*Emmy - Oscars are for movies. But I do feel like B5 always received way less attention than it should have, especially given that it was the prototype for arc-based TV series that have now become the norm in television.
@@roguishpaladin not the prototype for arc based story telling. As JMS has explained in some interviews, the long story arc format was new to American sci-fi but was already well established in other countries, such as with the UK's Doctor Who and Blake's 7.
Giving his life for hers was the only thing he could do, he couldn't risk the others saying no, trying to stop him, relying on them with time slipping away so fast. The best way for a ranger to die, for the one (he loved).
"And for the tender mother, who dandled him to rest,
And for the wife who dandles his baby at her breast".
“If we must relinquish this life that others might live, we do so without hesitation.”… damn right! Marcus, a Ranger to the very end, and beyond! ❤❤❤
"Is this God? He really did have an English accent just like in all those old movies." 😂
Cried so much at Babylon 5, especially this scene and the ending.
Yep
babylon5.wikia.com/wiki/Space,_Time_%26_the_Incurable_Romantic
A little love story here !
Thankyou so much !
I used Marcus's awesome reasoning to help myself.
"Oh I'm 35, I'm way too old to learn another language.
"How old will you be in a year?"
:-).
May Marcus find the peace in death that he never found in life.
This show was all about legends...light against the dark...
I cannot think of a better way to go out than to go out in than saving the one you love bringing just 1 moment of peace to your own restless conscious before you find another type of peace.
Agreed...still would have been nice for him if he got to 'boff' her just once.
Their story, one of loving without expectation, loving sincerely, genuinely, is one of the most powerful expressions of it, I have seen in sci-fi. In the 90's we had a lot of great science fiction, and I fall back to the Deep Space Nine/Babylon 5 era. Their stories were that good. This one, is at the very top of that list. Bravo for all of the players in these scenes, some are not here anymore, but this here is a testament of what love, should be... Without expectation...and unconditional.
This scene still gets to me 5 years after watching it for the first time. So poignant. Marcus's line about the bed is soo sad and helpless, all he could do.
This truly went to the power of her character that she went from anger regret sorrow and then in all the tears and agony to humor with she could have at least boffed him I was in tears during this episode and the end of the last and when she said that I just died laughing truly she deserved an award for this scene if not the rest of her amazing time on b5
B5 was always best when revealing those elements we most admire about humanity
10:30 to 10:50, possibly the most heartbreaking realization one human can have about another. I am convinced that there are real relationships that have sundered because of things like this.
Superb acting always amazes me how well B5 has aged. I was a kid in elementary school watching this and now I see it and I still love it.
One of the best scenes in any Sci-Fi show , had me in tears !!
One of the best love stories in any sci-fi show this makes Marcus one of the absolute best characters I've ever seen
Marcus' body is frozen & in 500 years he is revived & he clones a strand of her hair found on his person. He then downloads the recored and stored memories of Ivanova into the clone and they live happily ever after. It's in a short story written by JMS. He wanted to give Marcus & Ivanova the happy ending the fans felt they deserved.
Drew Iron Tears down Great Pluto's Cheek. He made Hell grand what love did seek.
Happy ending? Isn't 500 years later the start of the Great Burn?
they were on a planet that was like maui
Hahahahaha
@@SantomPh It''s 300 years later. So 200 years before the Great Burn. Also, he crashes them on another planet with (I presume) no intelligent life intending they live out the rest of their lives on a beach together.
I can only hope he gave himself a vasectomy before doing this because two people aren't enough to breed a new colony of humans and it wouldn't be fair to their children.
Thank you honesty so glad they do in the end
Great series! Awesome acting!
Probably one of my he saddest yet truly amazing moments in sci fi history Marcus held true to his love and his oath as a ranger he honored his duty and love to bad more people weren’t like that the world would be a better place
He held true to his oath?
He deserted his post in time of battle. And took the ship with him.
Marcus put his heart above his duty and responsibility as a Ranger.
As was said in Season 5...
"He joined the Anla'shok for the wrong reasons.
Because of guilt over the death of his brother.
He wasn't looking for a way to serve.
He was seeking a way to atone.
"
Read more: www.springfieldspringfield.co.uk/view_episode_scripts.php?tv-show=babylon-5&episode=s05e05
Man the last time I sae this scene wss back in the nineties. Still breaks my heart. Marcus and Suzan. The promise of their lives together was so glorious, we were looking forward to when they would finally get together. And then this.
See, THIS is good writing. And fenomenal acting!
It's almost as good as Picard season 2.
Ivanova grieving Marcus is absolutely heartbreaking
Damn. This scene still makes me cry.
Perhaps the saddest love story in all of literature. Marcus was such a wonderful character. I was sad to see him go. I really wanted to see Susan and him to get together.
Thank you so much for uploading this. Been searching for it. One of the saddest moments in scifi ever
Claudia Christian's best performance on the show.
You just want to hug her and comfort her.
And this is why Babylon 5 will live forever.
In my experience, there has been two BRILLIANTLY ACTED AND WRITTEN SERIES I have loved: B5 and The West Wing. I feel honoured to have witnessed them both in my life...
If the Emmys weren't so snobby towards sci-fi/fantasy shows, I'd say Claudia Christian deserved one for her rather heartbreaking talk with Franklin. And it's funny, at Dragon*Con a few years back, Jason mentioned that he found it odd that he was rushing off to do this for Susan, but why the heck did he have to knock all the guards out?
JMS has said that he might have kept Jason on the show had he known Claudia wasn't coming back. I ALWAYS wondered why nobody thought to possibly ask as much of the crew as possible to "donate" some of their life to save her, negating having Marcus give up his life entirely. Hmmm....fanfic idea coming up....
+ladycplum I commented on another Babylon 5 video here on TH-cam that the Arthurian legends were clearly an influence on several episodes of Babylon 5 (the most obvious, of course, being "A Late Delivery From Avalon"). I think Marcus Cole was another manifestation of this because he embodies many of the characteristics (courage, nobility, intelligence, generosity, etc.) of the quintessential medieval knight all the way up to his chastity, his unrequited love for and faithfulness to Ivanova, and his willingnes to sacrifice his life for hers. The writers even gave him a line in "Late Delivery From Avalon" in which Marcus rather jokingly compares himself to Sir Galahad...but the similarity is actually remarkably apt.
I've never heard that from JMS. The Lurkers Guide has season 4 filming completed before JMS knew that CC was leaving. The only thing that had to be changed was one line in the voiceover about Ivanova taking command of the new ship.
Device was not set up to allow more than 1 "donor" and it works by taking on the illness or injury you're trying to heal. You can't break your neck just a little bit. Believe me, if Franklin and Sheridan had thought that that was possible they wouldn't have banned the thing.
The question of the security guards is answered easily. They most surely tried to stop Marcus from getting his hands on the device (since it was restricted, after all).
@@oneproudbrowncoat And they would have warned the doctor, and he would have been stopped.
A strong reminder to us all: try to be open to all possibilities for love. You won't know until its too late when a chance for love and happiness has past you by because you were closed to the idea. Ask me how I know. Fantastic scene from a fantastic program. No CGI. No explosions. No grand armies fighting each other. Just great concepts, great writing, and great acting.
We live for the one.
We die for the one!"
He died for his one
He didn't die.
In the ending credits of the last episode we see the characters as they were early in the series and how they were at the end. For Marcus there's some kind of cerificate which you might assume is a death certificate. But if you look close you realize it isn't.
It's a certificate of cryogenic suspension.
If you want to know what happened next, JMS wrote a short story called "Space, Time and the Incurable Romantic".
@@Mark73
Yeah the rapey clone storyline
not a good look, best if they left him dead honestly
Well, seeing the end of "Sleeping in Light" that Marcus actually did "die for The One".
Those two are my favourite romance in any tv show. Even though they were never together they loved each other. Marcus died like a poet.
This show had so many powerful moments
You cut that one part out,a single tear he let fall,the beginning of his determination to save her.
Amazing scene. And she was so amazing in it.
I always thought she was a bit miscast. I saw other things this actress did and she played REALLY emotional SO well. But this role kept her buttoned down. She did well with what she had. But it is too bad she was not given more heavy scenes like this...for I think there lay her true talent as an actress.
That was the character. And I think she did a great job with it, especially BECAUSE she was normally so emotional in her scenes. This gave her a chance to be the cool, collected character. And that made this emotional scene SO MUCH MORE PAINFUL to watch, because Ivanova DIDN'T do that. So when she finally did, it hurt.
marcus give everything for the woman who love...this live too...that is love....
"The Lord bless thee, and keep thee: The Lord make his face shine upon thee, and be gracious unto thee: The Lord lift up his countenance upon thee, and give thee peace." - Numbers 6:24-26 - KJV.
One of the oldest lines later used in Scripture, found in an Egyptian mine, in an archaic Hebrew.
There are so many books they could do a series on. babylon 5 had some of the best acting that you rarely see in shows these days.
Most women will never understand why a good man will always walk into hell for the girl he loves and willingly close the door behind him.
One of the greatest love stories I've ever seen.
And, yes, Claudia Christian's acting is one of the best I've ever seen....especially when it came to Marcus.
B5 in the time when the best scI-fi shows were on and this one always stood out to me. Such great acting.
I missed the episode before this when it first aired. I went from Sheridan being rescued from capture and tortune and the cliffhanger on attacking Earth and Susan paralyzed on a death bed to this scene. I was lost and it still wrecked me.
Simplify the best Sci-fi show, this particular scene is so well acted , still makes me emotional to this day
Best acting in the show, this scene.
I'm not crying, you are...
My Man Marcus Knew what true Love Was Just wish I had a Friend like him.
"No greater love but that one would lay down their life for another."
Goodness is not goodness that seeks advantage.
Good is good in the final hour, in the deepest pit, without hope, without witness, without reward.
Virtue is only virtue in extremis.
Oh I've forgotten about these scenes! So sad.😔
06:56 Even after well twenty years since, I've never quite felt someone to relay their pain as authentically as Claudia Christian did.
I'm watching the start of S5 with my Dad for the 1st time.
Watching this triggers feels
This is why I named my son after him
you mean besides Marcus being just a generally badass name that evokes images of the legendary Roman legions.
*¡Claudia Christian was born Claudia Ann Coghlan on Tuesday, 10 August 1965!* 11:41 am Pacific Daylight Savings Time on Tuesday, 19 October 2021 Common Era or CE formerly known as Ano Domini or AD
Still miss this series thought it was ahead of it's time
One of the greatest loves of sci-fi. Why is unrequited love beautiful and romantic?
Babylon 5 in my opinion was the best scifi period
The greatest love story that never was.......
6:52 - To Think that Claudia was nominated for a Saturn Award for her work on Season 4 of Babylon 5, it sad that this scene of Ivanova and Franklin discussing the death of Marcus, stating that she knew how much he loved her, wasn't enough to help her win... there needs to be a Award Given Just for this moment alone
Aw, you cut the scene where she admits she learned Mimbari and understood his message. :(
plus the "and I thought the first ones were rare" line
No ones perfect
"You'll never know." - Marcus Like why on Earth why?!!!
Claudia Christian should have won an Emmy for this scene alone. None of it feels forced. The whole scene, as sad as it is, feels natural.
You missed one of the best bits where she repeats what he had said earlier, explains she has a great memory and then states, since she knows (some) Minbari, she thanks him for the "greeting"
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EVERY SINGLE REWATCH! snifffff
Very sweet. However, the best Interaction, is between Delen and G'gar, over the Minbari Wars. Still makes me cry, as it was an honest response to real life, Babylon 5, way a Grown up Story
I still believe this was one of the most beautiful tragedies ever portrayed on screen.
This scene and the one with Delenn and G'Kar in Delenn's quarters are the two most sadest scenes in B5. The two actress should have won emmies for those scenes. I miss B5.😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Bruce L. Phillis I agree that they should have won emmies for their acting. The dinner scene and the goodbye in the last episode are much sadder though.
That's one of the saddest lines ever. ALL love is unrequited. And I've been thinking all this time it was just my bad luck.
This whole frikin serie has cost me about 2000 napkins
It's sad so many actors from this show have passed including Stephen Furst ,Mira Furlan,Jeff Schroeder and even Peter Jurask.
Peter Jurasik is still alive.
Jason Carter nailed this role.
2022 here B5 is still epic
Just a great scene by 2 great actors
My sleeves are sopping wet now. :'-T
I wish JMS instead of writing a short story set 500years in the future. JMS wrote a story about Ivanva searching for a way to revive Marcus; make that one of Ivanvas life long goals after Marcus is put in Cryostatis
After Talia, it seems Susan was afraid to open herself up to anyone else. That was tragic.
After watching this, please read "Space, Time, and the Incurable Romantic" shot story written by J. Michael Straczynski himself. You will find out that there is happy ending for Marcus and Ivanova after all.
Yeah. I still consider it non-canon as its too much of "rainbow and unicorns" and reads like a fan-fiction.
Alexander Benkendorf If somebody else had written it, I would have agreed with you. However, since it was written by J Michael Straczynski himself, and for B5, I don't agree.
I mean, not really Ivanova. The real her died heart broken.
Gets me every time.
My sentimental situation right now...
Her is where I fall in the chain of command. That poster is something. Or how about when she finds out the meaning of the mimbari he spoke. Or tells a mimbari to speed the word not to laugh at her self taught mimbari.
Every time I view the screen of Ivanovo crying about death Marcus, I cry. I am 73 years old. Do let the lord governments take you to war, War is for profit and YOU do not profit! If politicians can not tell you WHY, politicians has FAILED his/her elected job
Nooooo! Space Aragoooorn!!!!
Which season and episode is 2:30?
0:13--😊
The Gospel @ 8:25.
You didnt add his single tear.
fuck I thought about this and cried then I came and looked up the video. Unfortunately it was the right choice for Marcus.
The best tragic love story in sci-if.
Whoa what an acting!
I was quite surprised that the Minbari didn't have the technology to heal Susan. Halo traction? How 20th century.
A part of me thought Marcus was overdoing it with the machine and he should have set it so that Ivanova would survive and but not completely healed and they would heal her slowly with the machine over time. The setting isn't just instantly death to heal.
I really hated when she left show..thought she should of been the Captain not the new one. 😢..wish Marcus hadnt died too.
She should have " boffed him " just once
I did not like Markus at the start, but he was amazing, and his end broke my heart.
I am a sucker for a goid love story. I cried like a baby.
And the brilliance of writing where right in the middle of a heart-wrenching scene they could toss in the humorous line "...at least I should have boffed him just once..." Any less of a writer or actor that would have killed the whole scene.