Be sure to read Dr. Garth Davis's response to Layne: proteinaholic.com/response-to-layne-nortons-review-of-the-game-changers/ Support me: www.vegangainsofficial.com/support Patreon: www.patreon.com/vegangains Quality Gains: qualitygains.com/signup/ref/vegangains/ Vegan diet reversal of CAD: www.ornish.com/wp-content/uploads/Intensive-lifestyle-changes-for-reversal-of-coronary-heart-disease1.pdf dresselstyn.com/JFP_06307_Article1.pdf Cholesterol and atherosclerosis: www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0735109704007168?via%3Dihub www.onlinejacc.org/content/70/24/2979 Red meat: jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/1134845
I know you probably get the "I see you everywhere" comments so often that it becomes tiresome just to hear that again, but I'll say it anyways: I see you everywhere.
@@maverick5989 I'm Indian. They're getting fat because they eat excessive amounts of refined grains/sugar/oil, ghee, butter, other dairy products and even meat and other fast food junk thanks to western influence. Legumes and whole grains are not associated with obesity in any major cohort study, on the contrary they're associated with reduced all cause mortality. In fact legumes in particular are the only food group consistently associated with longevity in every blue zone population on Earth.
I am a huge fan of Esselstyn's diet - I have myself reversed my coronary artery disease on this diet. But Esselstyn's patients in his published work did use low-dose statins. The important point is that no amount of statins can reverse heart disease.
you should eat some healthy (vegan) fats. that study has poor study design, and nuts and seeds have been proven to be positive for cardiovascular disease as well
@@jenm1 short and medium chain saturated fats that would otherwise be healthy for a normal person are not for someone dying from heart disease, so the Esselstyne diet has you limit nuts, seeds and avocado untill you are fixed.
@@80slimshadys There's literally 0 evidence for that. And nuts and seeds and avocados are predominantly comprised of monounsaturated, and polyunsaturated fats, which are known to be heart healthy. They do not do the same thing as saturated fat. If someone wants to eat low fat, they can. I just don't wish that lifestyle on anyone because it's needless, and even harmful.
Was waiting for this one. the man basically tried debunking the documentary before it even came out. Dr Garth davis' debunking of the the debunking is basically what we need more of
16:50 what is the problem with a low protein diet? Dr. Greger has presented science several times recently with low protein diets being associated with longevity.
This video starts with a misrepresentation of what Layne says about junk food. I’ve watched a whole video series of him talking about his idea of junk food and this video is extremely misleading ( the worst thing it’s that it starts with this misleading idea ). I’m a vegan and I don’t eat junk food, but if you wanna make someone look bad with this kind of manipulation, that’s also not healthy man. Sad…
The bit about gladiators being fat is stupid as why would you want to get cut in an age where if you got an infection it's pretty much guaranteed death, so that tactic would be useless making the point of nerve protection mute
Why do so many people have a vendetta against The Game Changers when all of the studies and experiments are grounded in facts and reality, Jesus Christ Nazareth
It's not all facts. All documentaries have a biased and there is an attack on people eating animals. Why do vegetarians and vegans hate people who eat meat?
Paradise Perennials Posts like this are the reason why Vegans are universally disliked. That is unfortunate because I understand many just love the animals and want to reduce the harm. I don't know how old you are, or your level of intelligence, but this will never advance your movement. I hope some of the WFPB advocates can see that !
7:14 just for the record, Randy Couture was not eating junk food, I covered this on the heart attack video. He was eating animal products. But he also did plant-based diets at various points in his career.
I love your videos. Great mix of information, comedy and facts. The people giving you a thumb down are either stupid carnists that won’t even listen to your content or are ignorant haters. Keep up the great work Richard. Best regards from Switzerland 🇨🇭🌱💪🏼
99% people who read such articles will never open any of those studies and even if they did, they wouldn't understand it. So it's a clever ploy by Layne to include some BS studies.
Wow... Not even three minutes in & this guy can already be discredited with basic physics... Of course eating less food means your intake of nutrients of concern such as refined sugar or cholesterol goes down.. Like. Duh. That's why caloric controls work, whether you are on Keto or Whole foods plant based... Nobody is saying that caloric controls can't be used to help treat dietary related diseases.. its thermodynamics, basic input to out puts. This is grade school level shit. That doesn't mean McDonald's is a health food. Hoooly crap. Who's dick did this dude have to suck to get his PHD?
You didn't mention that as suggested by their hippocratic oath,they must serve the human health! Writing these books isn't just about money,it's about spreading the messenge for good health and longevity!
Yes .... he’s a lier?.... because you have a different opinion, which you didn’t back with any facts at all.... you just made some random assumption that Drs who sell books make less than regular Drs who just sell meds and do surgeries .... where is your info to back this? also where is your info that proves they didn’t sell books AND meds as well as doing surgeries? please - provide your proof on those financial points .... since you called him a lier, that’s pretty hypocritical
There's a rumor Dr Davis will debate Norton on the topic. Should be interesting, then again with Norton's line of reasoning, it should be a walk in the park for Dr Davis.
Actually, the way he comments is quite scientific. To be scaptical as hell is basically what science is about. I anyway think he could have better researched the specifics I think he got a point in what he is saying but misses the bigger picture. I guess thats just it. he is basically just a reseacher that is (as they they usually are) unwilling to ignore what he/she is seeing. His point is basically: we measure indicators and if those indicators fit the premise, it is a solition. I guess he is also a little run into
Well you straw manned Layne's position on good cals/bad cals. His opinion on calories in vs out on weight loss is exactly that - less than what you use = weight loss. More than you use = weight gain, however he has stated emphatically hundreds of times that empty calories have to be taken in low to moderate use. Attacking him on pointing out that the people involved in the film have a bias is absurd - since that's the first thing anyone does to any researcher when science is published. How many times have we heard you point out that something being funded by the dairy industry is automatically suspect - even when the scientific methods are sound and peer reviewed. End of the day I agree with your overall conclusions though.
There is granularity to life my man. You can have foods that are high in fats if you typically don't have high fat foods. I think what Layne was getting at was there isn't a good or bad food. Only good and bad food RELATIVE to your diet. I understand both of y'all tho and I can see how Layne can be taken the wrong way having it negatively impact an individual. However, you don't have to be vegan to be healthy! ✌️
Eating less calories in general will probably help lipid profiles. Healthy food is still more beneficial. He's going all off looks and bodyweight. Not what goes on inside.
Dude what's up with how mad Layne makes you? You seem really triggered over a different perspective. Is he threatening you? I think all perspectives bring some great information and everyone needs to dissect for themselves what works best for them individually. Also you are literally putting words into his mouth. He did not say eating Big Macs is healthy. He appears to be providing some clear information to contradict the misconception that weight loss is about ONLY the right foods but also has to have energy deficit in order to lose weight. Anyways just wanted to point that out. All the best to you and I hope anyone watching your content that prefers a vegan lifestyle finds some good information. At least one can hope.
Oh God...it's the pop-tart thing all over again. [Facepalm] Look, I get the whole "energy balance" thing, but nutrients DO count. Edit: CT Fletcher lived off of Big Macs, and well...you know...❤
So Layne a PHD is referencing an actual quote from the study and Vegan Gains a 12 grade drop out is referencing an anciant picture? buhahahahah, yeah Richard and I guess you believe also there were creatures with horse body and human head, because you know - there are statues and stuff hahahahah
No Moron Layne referenced blog articles rather than scientific sources like an archaeology journal whereas I referenced artifacts from the time period that gave a visual depiction of the gladiators. You are so stupid you can't even understand plain English, I went over all of this in the video.
@@VeganGains I can't even believe I have to tell some one that art more often is not even remotely close to reality let alone used as a scientifict argument of anything!
How is protein even part of the vegan conversation anymore? Pretending that vegans have a hard time getting protein is like pretending that vegans have a hard time getting carbs. It's literally nonsense. I don't even agree with veganism, I eat a pound of red meat every day. I doubt I'll reach 40 but whatever.
What do you mean with not agreeing with veganism? That makes it sound as if veganism is based on opinion and preference - which is not the case as the nutritional, environmental and ethical arguments in support of veganism are sound.
@@tamarlk Veganism is based on opinion and preference, that is the nature of ethics. For example, I prefer to reduce as much as possible the odds that the food I eat comes from child exploitation or de-facto slave labor. This is more important to me than sparing animals from cruelty. Eating lots of plants almost guarantees that you violate this ethic. As for the other things, everything I've ever heard vegans say about the environment has been either extreme dishonestly or outright lies. The environmental damage and habitat loss caused by tilling and monocropping, phosphate mining, and depleting aquifers is infinitely worse than me eating cows from a nearby farm, which I prefer. As for nutrition, for me personally more meat = better and more plants = worse health. That might not be true for you or for many others, but it is for me. Another thing, I disagree with the ethics of veganism because I value human prosperity higher than I value kindness to non-humans. Animals aren't your friends. Snuggling with an adorable kitten doesn't put food on anyone's table or clothes on anyone's back. As a species we're still in the dark ages. Life is still really hard for a staggering majority of humans. I see it as ethically wrong to slow down progress because some animals are cute.
@@davidm6387 There is a lot of nonsense to unpack in your comment, and considering I have other things to do, I am only going to respond to the comments that seem most central to your position. First, you say (rather: assume) that eating plants guarantees that you violate the ethic of preventing child labour. However, you completely fail to acknowledge that child labour is common throughout all agricultural subsectors, even more so in fishing, aquaculture and livestock husbandry than in "regular" crop farming [1, 2]. So if you actually cared about child labour, as you claim you do, you should eat less animal products and more plants. Second, you say that "everything [you've] ever heard vegans say about the environment has been either extreme dishonestly or outright lies", which is blatantly misleading. Environmental studies have unequivocally established that plant-based diets are more environmentally friendly than animal-based diets as they emit fewer greenhouse gases and require fewer natural resources like arable land and fresh water [3-5]. In fact, according to the largest analysis to date, the most unsustainable plant foods are still more sustainable than the most sustainable animal foods [6]. Third, you say that "more meat = better and more plants = worse health", which is also nonsense. The world’s leading authorities on health and nutrition all support the position that well-planned vegan diets are healthful, nutritionally adequate and can support healthy living in people of all ages, including athletes [7-9]. In fact, vegans are even at reduced risk of chronic diseases like heart disease, type-2 diabetes, obesity, hypertension and certain types of cancer [7, 8]. Also, a massive analysis recently published in the British Medical Journal found that "increases in red meat consumption, especially processed meat, were associated with higher overall mortality rates." The study's authors add: "The association between increased red meat consumption and mortality risk was consistent across subgroups defined by age, physical activity, dietary quality, smoking status, or alcohol consumption", meaning that the detrimental health effects of meat were consistent even when controlling for other lifestyle factors [10]. Fourth, you say that it is "ethically wrong to slow down progress because some animals are cute". I agree. But you're not providing an argument here; you're just strawmanning veganism, which shows you have no idea what you're talking about. If anything, veganism has the potential to solve many problems millions of people across the globe face today, like food and water scarcity and air pollution. This is probably why over 15000 scientists from all over the world, including 100 Nobel laureates, advise the world's governments to "[promote] dietary shifts towards mostly plant-based foods", as "farming ruminants for meat consumption" is especially troubling in light of the "current trajectory of potentially catastrophic climate change" [11]. I don't mind that you disagree with any vegans you happen to come across, as it is your right to hold whatever opinion you please. But I do care that you're rather reckless in sharing your misinformed opinions on the internet, pretending as if they are facts - even though anyone who actually knows a thing or two about the relevant scientific literature can easily pick apart all your nonsensical bullshit statements you think are "arguments". Sources: [1] www.ilo.org/ipec/areas/Agriculture/WCMS_172431/lang--en/index.htm [2] www.ilo.org/ipec/areas/Agriculture/WCMS_172419/lang--en/index.htm [3] link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10584-008-9534-6 [4] www.pnas.org/content/113/15/4146 [5] link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10584-014-1104-5 [6] science.sciencemag.org/content/360/6392/987.full [7] www.eatrightpro.org/-/media/eatrightpro-files/practice/position-and-practice-papers/position-papers/vegetarian-diet.pdf [8] www.dietitians.ca/Downloads/Factsheets/Guidlines-for-Vegans.aspx [9] www.bda.uk.com/news/view?id=179 [10] www.bmj.com/content/365/bmj.l2110 [11] academic.oup.com/bioscience/article/67/12/1026/4605229
@@tamarlk It looks like you put a lot of work into that reply, so I'll go point by point. #1 I get my meat from only a few sources, all of which fulfill my ethical standards. Whatever evil things are going on elsewhere isn't funded by me. #2 To use an evocative idiom, that pool has been peed in.The nonstop lies I keep hearing trying to defend modern plant agriculture vs pasture beef have made me pretty much deaf to any claims about pollution or land and water use. Cows eating grass is less destructive than permanently ruining soil by tilling it, cows can graze on land not usable for modern agriculture, and rain ain't the same thing as depleting aquifers. #3 You don't know anything about my body and health. Your weak correlation data is irrelevant to me personally. Real life does not consistently support the claim that vegan is superior to a diet which includes red meat. #4 It's not that simple. The use of animal agriculture promotes prosperity and stability. Crops fail so easily, unless you do some incredibly wicked shit like Spain's humanity-destroying ocean of greenhouses. You say my claims are "nonsensical bullshit" but you've only shown that you don't have the life experience to try to talk down to me.
@@davidm6387 Thanks for your reply. For the sake of consistency, I'm going to respond point by point. First, you're not making an argument here. Just a blanket statement in which you justify your behavior. So I don't need to respond to this. Second, you're simply blaming other people for making you "deaf" with their "nonstop lies" regarding "modern plant agriculture vs pasture beef", which isn't an argument. Besides, these aren't lies. For example, the University of Oxford recently published a report in which they investigated the effects of grass-fed beef on the environment, compared to other methods of food production. They conclude "that grass-fed livestock are not a climate solution. Grazing livestock are net contributors to the climate problem, as are all livestock. Rising animal production and consumption, whatever the farming system and animal type, is causing damaging greenhouse gas release and contributing to changes in land use." They add: "Ultimately, if high consuming individuals and countries want to do something positive for the climate, maintaining their current consumption levels but simply switching to grass-fed beef is not a solution. Eating less meat, of all types, is." [1] Third, I never said anything about your body and health. You're strawmanning my argument. Also, this isn't "weak correlational data". I could go into detail explaining why it isn't, but I think that won't convince you. Besides, you're acting as if we only have correlational data indicating that meat is bad for you, which is nonsense. There are numerous randomized controlled trials (the gold standard of science) that show that vegan diets are better for weight management [2-6], lowering cholesterol levels and reducing heart disease risk than any other diet researchers compare them to [2, 3, 7, 8]. Vegans also have better kidney function [9-11], lower rates of cancer [12], arthritis [13, 14] and Alzheimer's disease [15, 16]. I could go on and on, but you get my point: this isn't "weak correlational data". These are randomized, controlled experiments which allow researchers to establish causality - which they have. The fact that you think this is "weak correlational data" demonstrates your ignorance of the relevant scientific literature - not the lack of it. Also, simply saying that the "use of animal agriculture promotes prosperity and stability" without providing evidence as to why this is the case doesn't make it true. I find it interesting how you make strong claims but failed to use even one (!) source for any of them. Lastly, I'm not talking "down to you". I'm calling you out for spreading false information. Sources: [1] www.ox.ac.uk/news/2017-10-03-grass-fed-beef-good-or-bad-climate [2] www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16873779 [3] www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25684089 [4] www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16164885 [5] www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17890496 [6] www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25026923 [7] www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/JAHA.119.012865 [8] www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/JAHA.118.011367 [9] www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18296369 [10] www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18184902 [11] www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19758824 [12] www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26853923 [13] www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4359818/ [14] www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9117178 [15] www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27454859 [16] www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8327020
Bro, how about a BEST of for these categories too. Prop up some of the dank vegan youtubers out there. And ofcourse make one for your sexc self, dude. you're easily best of the call out game.
I think the gladiators was my favorite part. Because an unbiased documentary would be sure to quote someone who says something especially stupid, just to be thorough. I don't get how anyone could think gladiators were fat, ESPECIALLY when eating whole foods and complex carbs!
Richard we need to see your response to Chris Kresser’s recent appearance on Joe Rogan , guy talks so much shit and Joe’s confirmation bias constantly reveals itself.
Or you guys are too thick to understand the points he makes 😆😆😆. Anyone who understands macros and calories can see how a big mac in a calorie restrictive diet can improve health for an obese person. Not you lot tho 🤦♂️ it's called the power of anomalies yet you guys call it irrational 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
@@JrokPBboy09 yes I'm sure an educated dr who has sacrificed his entire life to nutrition doesn't understand what healthy food is 🤦♂️. You still can't even comprehend his point lol
@Golden Knight you are so stupid you are bringing up a point that has nothing to do with mine 🤦♂️🤦♂️. I never said there wasnt. I'm talking specifically about layne and you so triggered you have to try and make a point that is actually irrelevant 🤦♂️
Jesus christ if i was in Layne’s position i would literally just quit at this point. This guy is getting torn apart left right and centre. I honestly cannot believe someone with a phd in nutrition thinks eating beef can improve your health. It’s 2019 Layne. If you can’t accept the truth please just quit already man.
@@Changeling9au Well I can assure that they dont hold hands and touch each other during a nutrition PhD. VG also fails to comprehend what nutrition is. A nutritious food can be very unhealthy. The mcdouble was actually claimed the most nutritious food on the planet per dollar. Because the bread is heavily fortified, and it contains beef, there is essentially every single vitamin and mineral (nutrients) your body would need to survive (and actually grow). It comes without saying that's not healthy. The guy with a PhD in nutrition does have a valid scientific stance, and does use some references to support it. VG picks these claims apart, but VGs claims can easily be picked apart too if you're willing to dedicate the time to it. Quick example: VG references that a gladiator picture displayed physically fit gladiators. That's great, but it literally proves nothing. For 1)its a painting (not entirely valid source of data) 2) you would expect literal slaves to not have much fat on them, as ideal as fat would be for a gladiator. I'm sure the winning few got to eat well, but carbohydrates are cheap and that's what you feed slaves. I dont have a PhD, but I'm working on my second Bachelors right now and have used my Bsc to do genetic pathology research for a university, so I'm not entirely dumb even though I eat meat (quality sourced meat). As a "scientist" every single one of the claims VG makes in this video could ultimately be disputed. This whole thing is turning into such a shit show. VG himself has put on a large amount of fat over the time I've watched him. Fat isn't good. Once your glycogen stores become saturated, the rest of the carbohydrates you consume will convert into adipose reserve tissue, and a bit will be urinated out. Just eat a goddam balanced diet and source your foods well. 🤙
This guy is the biggest hypocrite on TH-cam .... you call people out for saying things not back by facts .... yet you do the exact same things all the time in each video - but you say they are wrong .... because you’re opinion is always right I guess?
*Layne is going to have a live debate with Dr Garth Davis.* Layne is far, far from the “Worst” of the fitness industry. Garth’s response in audiobook: th-cam.com/video/nHM1J2UXYBY/w-d-xo.html (it’s like an hour read, or you can listen here while doing other things)
A big example of Layne's hypocrisy of "conflict of interest" is his own supplement line. He brought out BCAAs and funded studies to "prove" they work so he can sell them. Much like the egg industry funding studies on eggs to "prove" they're healthy. He's a joke
@Yul Strokheet Al-Wauch Conflicts of interest are required to be published in studies and those studies showing eggs are healthy are LITERALLY funded by those companies supplying the product. One example, the Australian Egg Corporation, Ltd. saying eggs aren't a risk to cardiovascular health. But okay, you're probably too lazy to research yourself, might be the eggs.
What? Layne Norton literally popularized BCAAs and they have been proven to have 0 benefits, unless you count making your water taste different. @@user-ii7xc1ry3x
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Lane Norton is the most ignorant doctor his education was a worthless
Lol
You think you'd ever try professional fighting bro? You with your wits n charisma could own the ufc.
Do a video on tufanos video saying joe rogan destroys vegans
Whenever I see a “Worst of the Fitness Industry” I’m just forced to rewatch them over and over for some weird reason. It’s my main source of protein.
I know you probably get the "I see you everywhere" comments so often that it becomes tiresome just to hear that again, but I'll say it anyways: I see you everywhere.
@Nightingale it's on there on purpose to get losers like you to try and correct it while not seeing the bait.
That doesn't even make any sense.
"Simple carbohydrates, such as barley and legumes" - Does it get more stupid than this?
And who tf gets fat eating legumes? 😂
Ludwig Winter I would actually pay money to see someone trying to get fat by only eating legumes.
No.
Jonathan Harder come to India you will be surprised.. you will see how people get fat eating legumes and rice
@@maverick5989 I'm Indian. They're getting fat because they eat excessive amounts of refined grains/sugar/oil, ghee, butter, other dairy products and even meat and other fast food junk thanks to western influence. Legumes and whole grains are not associated with obesity in any major cohort study, on the contrary they're associated with reduced all cause mortality. In fact legumes in particular are the only food group consistently associated with longevity in every blue zone population on Earth.
I am a huge fan of Esselstyn's diet - I have myself reversed my coronary artery disease on this diet. But Esselstyn's patients in his published work did use low-dose statins. The important point is that no amount of statins can reverse heart disease.
True, but weren't they basically 'on death's door'? Wonderful to hear you've been able to reverse your condition :)
you should eat some healthy (vegan) fats. that study has poor study design, and nuts and seeds have been proven to be positive for cardiovascular disease as well
Ethics board would never let you take dying people off their medication just to prove a point.
@@jenm1 short and medium chain saturated fats that would otherwise be healthy for a normal person are not for someone dying from heart disease, so the Esselstyne diet has you limit nuts, seeds and avocado untill you are fixed.
@@80slimshadys There's literally 0 evidence for that. And nuts and seeds and avocados are predominantly comprised of monounsaturated, and polyunsaturated fats, which are known to be heart healthy. They do not do the same thing as saturated fat. If someone wants to eat low fat, they can. I just don't wish that lifestyle on anyone because it's needless, and even harmful.
my name is layne and i feel like im being attacked
The guys fat. You cant be an i influencer on health and fitness if your obese. Sorry to say but thats just how it is
@@cypriano8763 not on either side but Layne definitely isn't obese 😂
2:25 - 2: 43
I love when experts answer good questions in a defensive manner. It really shows their unprofessionalism and narcissism.
lmao that acting of Norton is on point :D
Was waiting for this one. the man basically tried debunking the documentary before it even came out. Dr Garth davis' debunking of the the debunking is basically what we need more of
“Just Some Guy Without A Mustache is gay”
16:50 what is the problem with a low protein diet? Dr. Greger has presented science several times recently with low protein diets being associated with longevity.
Absolutely love your little comedy skit pieces. The classroom scene with the Fisher price toy nearly made me spit out my morning oats 🤣
6:57: "..this new medication, especially the statin, will stabilize the plaque, so I don't have any more plaque ruptures..." Really?
His doctor lied to him, big time!
Statins will just delay his next heart attack.
This one was deserved. Layne is complete shill.
A shill for what?
Dude your funny as hell the costume skits are hilarious
Dmitri irwin *you're
Dmitri irwin no he is not. It’s just cringy
@@maverick5989 I'm sorry you're missing out
When are you gonna give us the Joe Rogan response video?
Should we order 66 him
"worst of the fitness industry" - absolutely anyone against veganism
This video starts with a misrepresentation of what Layne says about junk food. I’ve watched a whole video series of him talking about his idea of junk food and this video is extremely misleading ( the worst thing it’s that it starts with this misleading idea ). I’m a vegan and I don’t eat junk food, but if you wanna make someone look bad with this kind of manipulation, that’s also not healthy man. Sad…
I think your true calling is a doctor man
Doodle Doo hahahahahahaha
Ricky Bobby Aviation and Fishing funny
Reminds me of officer Duffus from scary movie 😂😂
The bit about gladiators being fat is stupid as why would you want to get cut in an age where if you got an infection it's pretty much guaranteed death, so that tactic would be useless making the point of nerve protection mute
I'm not a nutritionist but even I know that Big Mac's from McDonald's are not good for you. That's a no brainer.
You going to respond to Eric Berg's video on your blood results?
If someone had a gun to your head and threaten to kill you unless you took a bite of a steak would you eat the steak or die?
I did not think you were old enough for Inspector Gadget.
Your views went all the way down. Dying channel hahahaha.
Why do so many people have a vendetta against The Game Changers when all of the studies and experiments are grounded in facts and reality, Jesus Christ Nazareth
Its mostly anecdotal lol
It's not all facts. All documentaries have a biased and there is an attack on people eating animals. Why do vegetarians and vegans hate people who eat meat?
@@Ksmoove0824 I'm vegan and I don't hate people who eat meat. I use to think that too.
Paradise Perennials Posts like this are the reason why Vegans are universally disliked.
That is unfortunate because I understand many just love the animals and want to reduce the harm.
I don't know how old you are, or your level of intelligence, but this will never advance your movement.
I hope some of the WFPB advocates can see that !
@@pbpb253 bruh Im trolling around ... Take your sob story to someone who cares
But layne has a PHD so I have to agree with everything he says
You remember when this man was one of the craziest people on TH-cam.
7:14 just for the record, Randy Couture was not eating junk food, I covered this on the heart attack video. He was eating animal products. But he also did plant-based diets at various points in his career.
Important info - Dean Ornish et als program wasn't just a diet, it was an intensive lifestyle program. Very important to include this.
i see richard was very quiet about barts takedown lol
Thank you so much for your work bro.. seriously makes me feel good to know that someone as yourself is willing to do this work.. so imperative
I love your videos. Great mix of information, comedy and facts. The people giving you a thumb down are either stupid carnists that won’t even listen to your content or are ignorant haters.
Keep up the great work Richard. Best regards from Switzerland 🇨🇭🌱💪🏼
99% people who read such articles will never open any of those studies and even if they did, they wouldn't understand it. So it's a clever ploy by Layne to include some BS studies.
PLEASE read the Garth David response.
Wow... Not even three minutes in & this guy can already be discredited with basic physics...
Of course eating less food means your intake of nutrients of concern such as refined sugar or cholesterol goes down..
Like. Duh. That's why caloric controls work, whether you are on Keto or Whole foods plant based...
Nobody is saying that caloric controls can't be used to help treat dietary related diseases.. its thermodynamics, basic input to out puts. This is grade school level shit.
That doesn't mean McDonald's is a health food. Hoooly crap.
Who's dick did this dude have to suck to get his PHD?
Imagine sitting through classes for 8 years and not absorbing a damn thing. How dense could someone be?
last time I got checked my ldl is 14 hdl is 22 I have been a vegan for 5 years
No outro?
I always watch to the end
You didn't mention that as suggested by their hippocratic oath,they must serve the human health! Writing these books isn't just about money,it's about spreading the messenge for good health and longevity!
Yes .... he’s a lier?.... because you have a different opinion, which you didn’t back with any facts at all.... you just made some random assumption that Drs who sell books make less than regular Drs who just sell meds and do surgeries .... where is your info to back this? also where is your info that proves they didn’t sell books AND meds as well as doing surgeries? please - provide your proof on those financial points .... since you called him a lier, that’s pretty hypocritical
Is grapeseed oil better than olive oil, since grapeseed oil does not have much saturated fat, it's mostly polyunsaturated?
There's a rumor Dr Davis will debate Norton on the topic. Should be interesting, then again with Norton's line of reasoning, it should be a walk in the park for Dr Davis.
THANK YOU. Been waiting for this excitedly.
Been waiting for this since Layne posted that video lol
>be Layne Norton
>Post everyday 2-4 posts on game changers
My dad's cholesterol just came back and his LDL is fucking 160 RIP
Actually, the way he comments is quite scientific. To be scaptical as hell is basically what science is about.
I anyway think he could have better researched the specifics
I think he got a point in what he is saying but misses the bigger picture.
I guess thats just it. he is basically just a reseacher that is (as they they usually are) unwilling to ignore what he/she is seeing. His point is basically: we measure indicators and if those indicators fit the premise, it is a solition.
I guess he is also a little run into
Thinking about going vegetarian and then going fully vegan any tips on how to get protein vitamins and minerals in would appreciate your help
These Drs dont make more money they make extra money off the books and products , how do you not understand that concept ?
Pls accept a charity fight offer from Big Rob Fitness. It would be amazing
He didn't say apple equals to mac .. be fair ..
Another great video. Thanks for all of your work to promote a whole food plant based diet
Richard, you would be a hell of a handsome policeman.
Rich making his female viewers wet 😂😂
@@easley421 calm down - she just paid him a complement
@@easley421 wow a white knight - that makes my day 💪
@@easley421 I don't think Sigrid Meeresfischlein knows what a 'white knight' is in 2019.
@@katzensindweich3505 He's just jealous!
Well you straw manned Layne's position on good cals/bad cals. His opinion on calories in vs out on weight loss is exactly that - less than what you use = weight loss. More than you use = weight gain, however he has stated emphatically hundreds of times that empty calories have to be taken in low to moderate use. Attacking him on pointing out that the people involved in the film have a bias is absurd - since that's the first thing anyone does to any researcher when science is published. How many times have we heard you point out that something being funded by the dairy industry is automatically suspect - even when the scientific methods are sound and peer reviewed. End of the day I agree with your overall conclusions though.
You did very well debunking him
Layne is a fool and Rogan just gets triggered by the topic of veganism and can't approach it rationally.
There is granularity to life my man. You can have foods that are high in fats if you typically don't have high fat foods.
I think what Layne was getting at was there isn't a good or bad food. Only good and bad food RELATIVE to your diet. I understand both of y'all tho and I can see how Layne can be taken the wrong way having it negatively impact an individual. However, you don't have to be vegan to be healthy! ✌️
Just had an advert for beef jerky wtf
Keep up good work your channel is growing
Eating less calories in general will probably help lipid profiles. Healthy food is still more beneficial. He's going all off looks and bodyweight. Not what goes on inside.
The channel Food Lies just released a video "debunking" The Game Changers. I really would like your opinion on it, VG.
Dude what's up with how mad Layne makes you? You seem really triggered over a different perspective. Is he threatening you? I think all perspectives bring some great information and everyone needs to dissect for themselves what works best for them individually. Also you are literally putting words into his mouth. He did not say eating Big Macs is healthy. He appears to be providing some clear information to contradict the misconception that weight loss is about ONLY the right foods but also has to have energy deficit in order to lose weight. Anyways just wanted to point that out. All the best to you and I hope anyone watching your content that prefers a vegan lifestyle finds some good information. At least one can hope.
Nailed the scary movie 1 officer doofy character
Actually a big mac is healthier than an apple.
Isn't Garth Davis debating Layne sometime soon?
Oh God...it's the pop-tart thing all over again. [Facepalm] Look, I get the whole "energy balance" thing, but nutrients DO count. Edit: CT Fletcher lived off of Big Macs, and well...you know...❤
Richard, you filmed your grandpa having a heart attack
Can you do another video about Sv3rige?
So Layne a PHD is referencing an actual quote from the study and Vegan Gains a 12 grade drop out is referencing an anciant picture? buhahahahah, yeah Richard and I guess you believe also there were creatures with horse body and human head, because you know - there are statues and stuff hahahahah
No Moron Layne referenced blog articles rather than scientific sources like an archaeology journal whereas I referenced artifacts from the time period that gave a visual depiction of the gladiators. You are so stupid you can't even understand plain English, I went over all of this in the video.
@@VeganGains I can't even believe I have to tell some one that art more often is not even remotely close to reality let alone used as a scientifict argument of anything!
How is protein even part of the vegan conversation anymore? Pretending that vegans have a hard time getting protein is like pretending that vegans have a hard time getting carbs. It's literally nonsense. I don't even agree with veganism, I eat a pound of red meat every day. I doubt I'll reach 40 but whatever.
What do you mean with not agreeing with veganism? That makes it sound as if veganism is based on opinion and preference - which is not the case as the nutritional, environmental and ethical arguments in support of veganism are sound.
@@tamarlk Veganism is based on opinion and preference, that is the nature of ethics. For example, I prefer to reduce as much as possible the odds that the food I eat comes from child exploitation or de-facto slave labor. This is more important to me than sparing animals from cruelty. Eating lots of plants almost guarantees that you violate this ethic. As for the other things, everything I've ever heard vegans say about the environment has been either extreme dishonestly or outright lies. The environmental damage and habitat loss caused by tilling and monocropping, phosphate mining, and depleting aquifers is infinitely worse than me eating cows from a nearby farm, which I prefer. As for nutrition, for me personally more meat = better and more plants = worse health. That might not be true for you or for many others, but it is for me. Another thing, I disagree with the ethics of veganism because I value human prosperity higher than I value kindness to non-humans. Animals aren't your friends. Snuggling with an adorable kitten doesn't put food on anyone's table or clothes on anyone's back. As a species we're still in the dark ages. Life is still really hard for a staggering majority of humans. I see it as ethically wrong to slow down progress because some animals are cute.
@@davidm6387 There is a lot of nonsense to unpack in your comment, and considering I have other things to do, I am only going to respond to the comments that seem most central to your position.
First, you say (rather: assume) that eating plants guarantees that you violate the ethic of preventing child labour. However, you completely fail to acknowledge that child labour is common throughout all agricultural subsectors, even more so in fishing, aquaculture and livestock husbandry than in "regular" crop farming [1, 2]. So if you actually cared about child labour, as you claim you do, you should eat less animal products and more plants.
Second, you say that "everything [you've] ever heard vegans say about the environment has been either extreme dishonestly or outright lies", which is blatantly misleading. Environmental studies have unequivocally established that plant-based diets are more environmentally friendly than animal-based diets as they emit fewer greenhouse gases and require fewer natural resources like arable land and fresh water [3-5]. In fact, according to the largest analysis to date, the most unsustainable plant foods are still more sustainable than the most sustainable animal foods [6].
Third, you say that "more meat = better and more plants = worse health", which is also nonsense. The world’s leading authorities on health and nutrition all support the position that well-planned vegan diets are healthful, nutritionally adequate and can support healthy living in people of all ages, including athletes [7-9]. In fact, vegans are even at reduced risk of chronic diseases like heart disease, type-2 diabetes, obesity, hypertension and certain types of cancer [7, 8].
Also, a massive analysis recently published in the British Medical Journal found that "increases in red meat consumption, especially processed meat, were associated with higher overall mortality rates." The study's authors add: "The association between increased red meat consumption and mortality risk was consistent across subgroups defined by age, physical activity, dietary quality, smoking status, or alcohol consumption", meaning that the detrimental health effects of meat were consistent even when controlling for other lifestyle factors [10].
Fourth, you say that it is "ethically wrong to slow down progress because some animals are cute". I agree. But you're not providing an argument here; you're just strawmanning veganism, which shows you have no idea what you're talking about. If anything, veganism has the potential to solve many problems millions of people across the globe face today, like food and water scarcity and air pollution. This is probably why over 15000 scientists from all over the world, including 100 Nobel laureates, advise the world's governments to "[promote] dietary shifts towards mostly plant-based foods", as "farming ruminants for meat consumption" is especially troubling in light of the "current trajectory of potentially catastrophic climate change" [11].
I don't mind that you disagree with any vegans you happen to come across, as it is your right to hold whatever opinion you please. But I do care that you're rather reckless in sharing your misinformed opinions on the internet, pretending as if they are facts - even though anyone who actually knows a thing or two about the relevant scientific literature can easily pick apart all your nonsensical bullshit statements you think are "arguments".
Sources:
[1] www.ilo.org/ipec/areas/Agriculture/WCMS_172431/lang--en/index.htm
[2] www.ilo.org/ipec/areas/Agriculture/WCMS_172419/lang--en/index.htm
[3] link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10584-008-9534-6
[4] www.pnas.org/content/113/15/4146
[5] link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10584-014-1104-5
[6] science.sciencemag.org/content/360/6392/987.full
[7] www.eatrightpro.org/-/media/eatrightpro-files/practice/position-and-practice-papers/position-papers/vegetarian-diet.pdf
[8] www.dietitians.ca/Downloads/Factsheets/Guidlines-for-Vegans.aspx
[9] www.bda.uk.com/news/view?id=179
[10] www.bmj.com/content/365/bmj.l2110
[11] academic.oup.com/bioscience/article/67/12/1026/4605229
@@tamarlk It looks like you put a lot of work into that reply, so I'll go point by point. #1 I get my meat from only a few sources, all of which fulfill my ethical standards. Whatever evil things are going on elsewhere isn't funded by me. #2 To use an evocative idiom, that pool has been peed in.The nonstop lies I keep hearing trying to defend modern plant agriculture vs pasture beef have made me pretty much deaf to any claims about pollution or land and water use. Cows eating grass is less destructive than permanently ruining soil by tilling it, cows can graze on land not usable for modern agriculture, and rain ain't the same thing as depleting aquifers. #3 You don't know anything about my body and health. Your weak correlation data is irrelevant to me personally. Real life does not consistently support the claim that vegan is superior to a diet which includes red meat. #4 It's not that simple. The use of animal agriculture promotes prosperity and stability. Crops fail so easily, unless you do some incredibly wicked shit like Spain's humanity-destroying ocean of greenhouses.
You say my claims are "nonsensical bullshit" but you've only shown that you don't have the life experience to try to talk down to me.
@@davidm6387 Thanks for your reply. For the sake of consistency, I'm going to respond point by point.
First, you're not making an argument here. Just a blanket statement in which you justify your behavior. So I don't need to respond to this.
Second, you're simply blaming other people for making you "deaf" with their "nonstop lies" regarding "modern plant agriculture vs pasture beef", which isn't an argument. Besides, these aren't lies. For example, the University of Oxford recently published a report in which they investigated the effects of grass-fed beef on the environment, compared to other methods of food production. They conclude "that grass-fed livestock are not a climate solution. Grazing livestock are net contributors to the climate problem, as are all livestock. Rising animal production and consumption, whatever the farming system and animal type, is causing damaging greenhouse gas release and contributing to changes in land use." They add: "Ultimately, if high consuming individuals and countries want to do something positive for the climate, maintaining their current consumption levels but simply switching to grass-fed beef is not a solution. Eating less meat, of all types, is." [1]
Third, I never said anything about your body and health. You're strawmanning my argument. Also, this isn't "weak correlational data". I could go into detail explaining why it isn't, but I think that won't convince you. Besides, you're acting as if we only have correlational data indicating that meat is bad for you, which is nonsense. There are numerous randomized controlled trials (the gold standard of science) that show that vegan diets are better for weight management [2-6], lowering cholesterol levels and reducing heart disease risk than any other diet researchers compare them to [2, 3, 7, 8]. Vegans also have better kidney function [9-11], lower rates of cancer [12], arthritis [13, 14] and Alzheimer's disease [15, 16]. I could go on and on, but you get my point: this isn't "weak correlational data". These are randomized, controlled experiments which allow researchers to establish causality - which they have.
The fact that you think this is "weak correlational data" demonstrates your ignorance of the relevant scientific literature - not the lack of it. Also, simply saying that the "use of animal agriculture promotes prosperity and stability" without providing evidence as to why this is the case doesn't make it true. I find it interesting how you make strong claims but failed to use even one (!) source for any of them. Lastly, I'm not talking "down to you". I'm calling you out for spreading false information.
Sources:
[1] www.ox.ac.uk/news/2017-10-03-grass-fed-beef-good-or-bad-climate
[2] www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16873779
[3] www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25684089
[4] www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16164885
[5] www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17890496
[6] www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25026923
[7] www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/JAHA.119.012865
[8] www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/JAHA.118.011367
[9] www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18296369
[10] www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18184902
[11] www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19758824
[12] www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26853923
[13] www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4359818/
[14] www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9117178
[15] www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27454859
[16] www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8327020
That Norton imitation is PURE GOLD
Ancient art pieces of gladiators in fit shape is not evidence
Especially when it's only couple of them
If he's being profited by dietary based companies then he cant point his finger at others.
I dont doubt Randy’s diet contributed to his heart attack but dont pretend he never did any steroids. He won all his titles pre USADA.
Bro, how about a BEST of for these categories too. Prop up some of the dank vegan youtubers out there. And ofcourse make one for your sexc self, dude. you're easily best of the call out game.
Inspector gadget 😂
Your HDL was 38. Isn’t that pretty low?
I think the gladiators was my favorite part. Because an unbiased documentary would be sure to quote someone who says something especially stupid, just to be thorough. I don't get how anyone could think gladiators were fat, ESPECIALLY when eating whole foods and complex carbs!
I'm here before Layne Norton sues Vegan Gains!
Why would he sue if he can easily dismantle this clown like an old Volkswagen. He probably will soon. Its easy to debate someone thats not present.
@@crlotero Layne has a notorious reputation for suing anyone that says anything negative about him :)
Richard we need to see your response to Chris Kresser’s recent appearance on Joe Rogan , guy talks so much shit and Joe’s confirmation bias constantly reveals itself.
That was the nail in the coffin for the game changers
@@studio3js196 Leo Venus is also a good one
@@stevend481 you're kidding right? Hes been thoroughly debunked as a complete liar
@@stevend481 LMFAO keep telling that to yourself and maybe somebody will buy it.
@@davidwilliams9386 I wanna say he's being sarcastic. But you never know with people on TH-cam lol
Perfect example of why "expert opinion" is at the bottom of the hierarchy of evidence pyramid.
Yup, and this supposed PhD linked animal studies which are also close to the bottom.
The hierarchy of evidence is so not valuable.
@@EmperorPenguinXRemas based on what?
@@unicornguy9676 It is a model based on 'expert opinion'. Hence, it ultimately contradicts itself?
@@EmperorPenguinXRemas Fair enough but what's the alternative?
Barley, legumes and beans are simple carbs now? How does this guy profess to be a nutrition expert by using that quote like that haha
Look.. all plants are essentially white table sugar.
sverige told me
@@HiddenStr3ngth wouldn't you know it! i done spiked my blood sugar eating broccoli and apples again!
@@jenm1 actually apples have the highest glycemic index of almost any fruit. If you're not exercising, you'll get fat real fast eating apples.
Lol
@@mcfoolskully wasn't it banana?
Game Changers got my 62 year old mom to go vegan! She was eating Oscar Myers turkey and beef constantly but now she is all lentils and quinoa
It's like the guy who's an astrophysicist working at Ken Ham's Ark Encounter in Kentucky. Some people can get degrees and still be irrational.
Every now and then I find myself re-watching that debate with Bill Nye and him. Classic
Or you guys are too thick to understand the points he makes 😆😆😆. Anyone who understands macros and calories can see how a big mac in a calorie restrictive diet can improve health for an obese person. Not you lot tho 🤦♂️ it's called the power of anomalies yet you guys call it irrational 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
@@LawOfWar, or he doesn't understand healthy food from processed junk, which was the point in the rebuttals. Miss the point much?
@@JrokPBboy09 yes I'm sure an educated dr who has sacrificed his entire life to nutrition doesn't understand what healthy food is 🤦♂️. You still can't even comprehend his point lol
@Golden Knight you are so stupid you are bringing up a point that has nothing to do with mine 🤦♂️🤦♂️. I never said there wasnt. I'm talking specifically about layne and you so triggered you have to try and make a point that is actually irrelevant 🤦♂️
How do you know if Layne Norton has a PHD? Don't worry he'll tell you...
Don't worry he ll sue you*
God that was a solid intro
I left layne a comment point out his some of his errors within hours of his video being uploaded.....he deleted my comment....
Layne is the brother of dear Jason Blohoino!
Blahino is his own species. There is only one lol
Jason blaha is actually a better person than layne
They even were born on the same day a few years apart
Jesus christ if i was in Layne’s position i would literally just quit at this point. This guy is getting torn apart left right and centre. I honestly cannot believe someone with a phd in nutrition thinks eating beef can improve your health. It’s 2019 Layne. If you can’t accept the truth please just quit already man.
2019 has nothing to do with anything. Let me know when you get a PHD and can lift with Layne.
@@crlotero Completely valid point. Whole lotta self proclaimed nutritionists here.
@@mcfoolskully
How is it a completely valid point?
@@Changeling9au Well I can assure that they dont hold hands and touch each other during a nutrition PhD. VG also fails to comprehend what nutrition is. A nutritious food can be very unhealthy. The mcdouble was actually claimed the most nutritious food on the planet per dollar. Because the bread is heavily fortified, and it contains beef, there is essentially every single vitamin and mineral (nutrients) your body would need to survive (and actually grow). It comes without saying that's not healthy.
The guy with a PhD in nutrition does have a valid scientific stance, and does use some references to support it. VG picks these claims apart, but VGs claims can easily be picked apart too if you're willing to dedicate the time to it.
Quick example: VG references that a gladiator picture displayed physically fit gladiators. That's great, but it literally proves nothing. For 1)its a painting (not entirely valid source of data) 2) you would expect literal slaves to not have much fat on them, as ideal as fat would be for a gladiator. I'm sure the winning few got to eat well, but carbohydrates are cheap and that's what you feed slaves.
I dont have a PhD, but I'm working on my second Bachelors right now and have used my Bsc to do genetic pathology research for a university, so I'm not entirely dumb even though I eat meat (quality sourced meat). As a "scientist" every single one of the claims VG makes in this video could ultimately be disputed. This whole thing is turning into such a shit show. VG himself has put on a large amount of fat over the time I've watched him. Fat isn't good. Once your glycogen stores become saturated, the rest of the carbohydrates you consume will convert into adipose reserve tissue, and a bit will be urinated out.
Just eat a goddam balanced diet and source your foods well. 🤙
@@mcfoolskully btw look at Omnicalculator and you can calculate and see that Laynes cholesterol ratios are even better then VG.
Layne Norton is probably the worst at interpreting research of the figureheads in fitness
Good to see Special Officer Doofy is still reporting for duty. 😂😂😂
Its sounds just like him.
Another Vegan Gains Video or more accurate: another episode of "strawman" the series.
The fisher price see and say 🤣🤣🤣
This guy is the biggest hypocrite on TH-cam .... you call people out for saying things not back by facts .... yet you do the exact same things all the time in each video - but you say they are wrong .... because you’re opinion is always right I guess?
They are fact based though.
If one cares about facts instead of attitudes.
Did everyone actually *watch* _The Game Changers_ before listening to others' opinions?
*Layne is going to have a live debate with Dr Garth Davis.* Layne is far, far from the “Worst” of the fitness industry. Garth’s response in audiobook: th-cam.com/video/nHM1J2UXYBY/w-d-xo.html
(it’s like an hour read, or you can listen here while doing other things)
Vegans will never be able to reach the benefits in strength and size compared to meat eaters, dairy eaters and eggs.
A big example of Layne's hypocrisy of "conflict of interest" is his own supplement line. He brought out BCAAs and funded studies to "prove" they work so he can sell them. Much like the egg industry funding studies on eggs to "prove" they're healthy. He's a joke
@Yul Strokheet Al-Wauch Conflicts of interest are required to be published in studies and those studies showing eggs are healthy are LITERALLY funded by those companies supplying the product. One example, the Australian Egg Corporation, Ltd. saying eggs aren't a risk to cardiovascular health. But okay, you're probably too lazy to research yourself, might be the eggs.
Leonard Smith and a fraud
@Aryan Sawhney Fake.
What? You got it backwards buddy.
What? Layne Norton literally popularized BCAAs and they have been proven to have 0 benefits, unless you count making your water taste different. @@user-ii7xc1ry3x