Pivot Bumper + Auto Track Bumper - ATバンパー【ミニ四駆】Tamiya Indonesia Mini 4WD #68
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This is once again very cool! I have watched tutorials for similar system on youtube but those are in japanese. So glad that you made yours in English and I finally can fully understood all the hints in making this bumper. Thank you bro!
Your welcome! Good luck bro! There will be some update regarding this bumper. Stay tuned!
That's a classy mini 4wd you've got there!
Thank you!
Thank you so much roscoe
keren banget ni tutorialnya... kyaaa~
thank you Roscoe untuk tutorialnya. Salam dari Indonesian racer di Dubai. :-)
Wow! Thx sudah ntn bro!
Nostalgic and Amaze with this dude. Bro lu keren banget bisa se kreatif ini. Keep making video. Bikin gw pengen punya tamiya lagi haha
Thank u!
Amazing stuff man! Can't wait to make one too!
Good luck!
Thank you for Idea and Thank you for Sharing
Thank u & good luck!
very nice!! thank you watching fr taiwan
Thank you! 🎉
Nice video..I love your tutorial with indonesian subtitle .. Now I know how to make pivot bumper.. Please upload more tutorial bro.. Keep it up!!!
Thank you so much!
boomerangE10 add the FL to back and its perfect :p
kalo bikin pivot, make sure itu lobang 19mm yg di frp superx ama arm yg fully cowlednya sejajar. soalnya kalo nggak dimensi mobilnya bisa berubah
kalo mau sedikit advance sih bisa dibikin cuma beda 0.sekian dari lebar official (semacam 104.8) >.
Mantap! Setuju banget ini.
Nice bro...
Thanks!
wow great video
Thank u! Please share it
I wint it roscoe is the best
MA Chassis is my favorite...
Goood mantaap
anda ini ponakan nya Prof Tsuciya ya? LOL hebat bro! ntab bgt..
Good joob👍
Your MA is Evolving 👍
I'm studying if I make a business for this.
Thanks! Stay tuned for the test run video!
Roscoe Channel
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Malam om. Mau tanya nih.. ini fully cowled yang ikut ke iket sama rubber nya berapa lapisan ya.?
The small O-rings comes from what parts, sir? Love your videos. Just got back into the game after 25 years not playing them and your tutorials helped fast-tracking into the latest setups for today's races. Thanks a lot from Malaysia.
The smallest o-ring from AO parts
May i ask whats ur underguard in front bumper?
Another question is that super hard tire or hard tire only?
You should make a list of materials . nice video
Thanks for watching 👍
Hey Roscoe! Thanks for the tutorial. But where do you get the small o-ring you mentioned at 1:44? Thanks!
The item number is 84195 👍
I sorta destroyed my F-MA setup doing this. Is there a certain AT bumper setup strictly for F-MA
Hello roscoe. Nice tutorial. Learned a lot. Where can i can the metal eyelets? Thanks.
Thanks. U can get it from a super 1 kit.
Sangat menarik konten2 yg anda buat, dan begitu menginspirasi saya. namun sayang di daerah saya regulasinya STO nya tidak boleh potong frp dan chassis 😂 wtf
Minggu depan udah seri 5 disini, akan saya coba build AT bumber pada ms chassis tanpa potong2, regulasi yg menyulitkan bagi pemain lama. Trimakasih ilmunya roscoe 🙏
Kalo ga pake body damper apakah berfungsi juga at-nya? Krn saya pake fma dan body damper dari belakang
Sepertinya harus body damper depan gan
Hi Roscoe. I made this but im not sure how to mount on my ms chassis. Can u make a video?
Buat rem nya pake part apa tuh
Another question. Have you or any of your friends tried this bumper on the FM-A front motor chassis?
Yup, one of my friend is using it.
Hi Roscoe, thanks for the video! One Q, will this auto bumper fit FMA?
Yes, but perhaps there will be some adjustment on how to mount the bumper. I have no experience with fma.
Hi bro can I also use the anchor bumper on this setup? do you have any videos of adaptive bumper and anchor bumper on MA chassis?
Yes. Please see the anchor bumper video. The concept is the same. But for MA, the installation will be a bit different.
Hi Roscoe, What is the alternative for the small o rings?
you can forget the o-ring if you're able to trim down the brass roller spacer precisely so the arm of the pivot won't wiggle. It's kinda hard, but it can be done.
What kind of bumper is the best among speed and technical
Dunno which one is the best. But now I'm using Pivot and Anchor bumper.
mau tanya lagi, kalo mau pake hg carbon, 15472 sama 15242 nya diganti sama apa?
Gak hapal nomor barang gan. Coba tulis nama partsnya deh
AT bumper vs MS flexi? Buat sistem depan pros and cons nya
AT adalah bumper, MS flex adalah mekanisme chasiss. Jadi keduanya tidak bisa dibandingkan.
Bro mau tanya, setingan build AT bumper ini bisa dipake untuk chassis MS ngga?
Bisa gan
At what tamiya part you get the small oring?
It's in a separate parts. The AO parts. I forgot the item number
What is the specific plate/frp did you use for front brake stay? Is that ar wide?
yes, rear wide AR
that 4mm hole the screw can go through it. so how you assemble the rollers?
The plate with 4mm hole only used as an underguard to prevent the screwhead from getting caught at the track wall
Bang nanya dong . Bumper ini klo dipasang di MS chassis kira² bisa gk ya . Atw ada bbrpa bagian yg harus di robah lagi ?
bisa
Hi! made the same bumper based on your design but will be installing it on MS chassis. Can I change the 2 holes where the eyelet (middle, where you will put the springs) to the side or it won't be that stable because it's near the edge?
I think it can be done, but I dunno how. This bumper can also be mounted on the MS chassis.
Hi yes i installed this in MS next will be the rear :)
Oke ane baru baca komenan ini, dan udh dpt jawabannya.. Thx bro
Can we see this run on some jumps.....
You can see it run on the next video bro. The test run video.
mau nanya eyelet dapet dari mana atau udah sepaket sama apa kalo beli beli dimana
coba ketik di google "eyelet tamiya".
@@roscoechannel terimakasih
Which part number do you suggest for the front bottom plate?
The hg carbon wide rear plate. Make new holes.
Bang roscoe, aku subscribermu yg selalu setia mengikuti tutorial.. mau tanya, klo pengganti frp depan pake HG item no brp yah? Pengalaman wktu main di graha, pake frp lemah.. hehhee.. makasih..
Kalo pake HG harus bikin sendiri lagi. Bisa pake HG multi kayanya trus buat lubang baru sesuai FRP super X chassis itu
@@roscoechannel makasih bang atas infonya... Nice chanel....
Is it okay to use 17mm rollers?
I dunno where to mount the 17mm roller
kalau boleh tau kenapa gak memakai item HG ? bukanya lebih kokoh lebih baik di belokan?
Karena mahal 😂
Ok, so the most troublesome part is how to get the car back in the track when the bottom roller hit the wall. Why don't we make a little tilt angle at the each bottom edge bumper to make easier to glide back in track? The bottom edge of the bumper would be like this \___ and for the right ___/. and for the addition, I think some aerodynamic casing would help for landing
I think I already made the curved edges for the bumper bro. Or do u mean the rear roller?
Aerodynamic casing? Do u mean the cowl (body)? I'm not sure if that will make an obvious difference though. Lots of great racers use various kind of body and their cars can perform really well. So I think the body won't be a deciding factor. Imo.
This illustration \______/ is from front view, not upper view. So the idea is, we make smoother surface for each bumper edge under the roller, You think it will help? This will work also for aerodynamic landing since the the air will be split equally at both left and right edges (well, as you said, not much tho). And more or less, this what I mean by aerodynamic (modified casing may also help). I ever found some racers use some kind of piece of clothe or flag at top of each back roller (or one at center back) for emergency stabilizer at local tournament (don't know if allowed in your race tho). In addition, the use of higher fps camera for recording will spot the error on track easier, maybe.
I did that already in the video. Have u watched the whole video?
It's a mini4wd catcher and the aim is for the damper movement. Not sure about the aerodynamic reasoning for the usage of that catcher damper. My latest video features a car that use that type of damper.
roscoe, do u have a tutorial on how to build front body damper
Check my building MA chassis part 3 video
Roscoe Channel thanks! will check it, can i apply it with my ms chassis or not?
The AT bumper? Yes, u can
nice！
challenge.
Niceeee video sekarang trilingual ya hehehhee
Thank u! Trilingual tapi berantakan bahasa Japan nya. Wkwkwkwk
Roscoe Channel gue gak paham sih jadi yahh it look nice...ilmu belom nyampe ke at bumper depan...baru nonton uda ngebul pala gue om Roscoe hahaha....kutunggu video test runnya hahaha...
whatever channel gpp bro, coba-coba, eksperimen, lariin, klo jelek cari penyebabnya, coba benerin, coba lagi. Hehehe. Yang penting hepi terus gan. 😁
Roscoe Channel oke gue ke rumah om roscoe bawa bor and barang barang kali ya biar bisak hahhahaha 😂😂😂 yoi yg penting happy always bosque hehe
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What hole did you put your 13mm rollers? in 19mm hole?
In 13mm hole
@@roscoechannel Thank you! I also use 13mm roller and put in 13mm hole but it dont fit to dimensions.hehehe. i dont know why i just copy what you did.hehehe
Om itu buat ar chassis bisa kan?
Bisa om
Hi bro,can i ask that your yellow MA chassis is from 95338? Or? Thank you!
Yes. But the gear cover is from Shirokumako GT.
Do you still use this bumper?
Yup
Hi sir, did you make both of the outer holes on the 3rd/bottom most layer 4mm or just the one that you pointed with the round file? Thanks!
Made both of them. So u can use 9mm rollers too
Ahh I see. I'ma go try that out. 😁, So the biggest rollers we can use for it is 13mm rollers right?
Yup, that's correct!
Awesome! Thanks for this guide and for answering my queries mate. More power to your channel and to you guys. 👍
Bro I forgot to ask, what size of wheels and how much trim do you have on those tires running with this bumper? 😁
What glue did you use to polish the frp's?
Glue was used only to create a coating. To polish the frp, you have to use a very fine sandpaper
@@roscoechannel i accidentally used a super glue/mighty bond. Lol. What kind of glue do you use?
Hi Bro, how to prevent the bumper from moving side to side? Is it normal?
Yes, it's kinda wobbly coz the inner diameter from the small yellow metal bushing is bigger than the screw diameter. U can use the anti upward angle plate and give some support to prevent the movement from the bumper.
@@roscoechannel Got it bro. Thanks for the suggestion. 👍
Om ,klo ga ada frp super x bisa di ganti pake apa om?
Pake karbon. Tipenya bs liat di video ini: th-cam.com/video/MkHDOtGS54Q/w-d-xo.html
@@roscoechannel ok om thx
Fungsi o ring supaya apa ya om? kalau gak pake ngaruh gak? 😅
Supaya kasi ruang gerak dan meredam getaran. Tapi di video2 berikutnya sudah gak saya pakai. Monggo diintip gan di video berikut pake apa. 👍
Bro, thanks for teaching. Btw, how can i get that roscoe channel stickers? Thanks
You're welcome. I ran out of stickers actually. 😅
Where are you from bro?
Much love from Malaysia bro. Thanks for replying!
I see. Well, I'll bring some sticker if I go to Malaysia for holiday. 😁
Steady bro Roscoe!
Bosq,klau mw pesan at bumpernya bs hub bosq dmn….???
Sudah nggak melayani lagi gan
om, saya coba tiru cara buatnya ini, namun saat saya coba pasang roller 13 mm nya, rollernya kena frp super x nya. Sebaiknya diapain ya biar gak kena lagi ?
Dipapas frpnya, atau rollernya dibalik
@@roscoechannel thx om nanti saya coba, berarti koreksi di video berikutnya itu hanya mengganti baut jadi countersunk dan oring jadi plastic bearing kan? Saya mau coba pasang di fm-a.
Hi,how do you set your brake with this setup?
I usually use only front brake. The color is according to the layout.
Which plate on the front bottom
Front under plate
O ring kecil dpt dari part apa ya?
Beli part terpisah gan. Coba googling
sorry for my english
klo MS Susp, dirasa perlu banget pakai itu ga om? cukup susah juga bikinnya ya om hahaha. nice video btw, keep post MINI4WD! Bravo!
Monggo dites om. Video test run menyusul. Siapa tau jadi tergugah nantinya. Hehe.. Makasih gan!
om tutorial donks build MA buat STO yg simple, tanpa perlu bor sana bor sini, potong terlalu banyak frp/hg plate dll. berguna banget buat racer spt ane yg minim tools gan wkwkwkwk.
Ok, nanti dipertimbangkan. Bantu cari sponsor gan. 😁
open member aja om, trus donate kecil2an buat support video tutorial wkwkwwk. klo buat cari sponsor ga tau ane caranya om wkwkwkwkwk. klo open donate kyak yutuber2 luar sono hayo dah ane bersedia hahaha
Wah gimana caranya itu? Baru denger lho. Hahahaha. Dari mobile app bisa?
Why you are not using the hg parts? 😁 thankyou
Coz I've bever made this kind of bumper before and HG parts are expensive. Hehehe
Hi bro, is this pivot bumper also can be use on Super II , VS chassis and TZ ??.. I mean the same setting show on your video.. Could you also upload tutorial pivot systems for rear bumper ??..
Yes it can be used. U just need to attach it into the appropriate attachment point. Same thing with the read side. You just need to change use a different attachment point.
How about SFM or fma? Can use?
Can be installed to every chassis. But it will need different modification and installation method. If the attachment points are the same, then u can apply the same method. If it's different, then u have to find another way to install the bumper.
Can u recommend cleaning fluid for cleaning tyres?
Wet tissues 👌
@@roscoechannel thanks man
Other chemical might damage the tire material. Be careful 👌
@@roscoechannel i use zippo up untill now. But it is too expensive
Hmm, just use wet tissue or if you can find cajuput oil, you can drop it on a tissue then wipe the tires. Make sure it dries completely before you run your car again so it won't stain the track surface.
om.. pke frp kira2 kuat g om itu..
Kuat gan. Coba cek test run di video berikutnya
wah boleh dcba nih om..
om, bagian pivot arm nya yg itu di bagian lubangnya gak direinforced pakai eyeley gak apa2? apakah nanti akan tahan lama dalam penggunaannya (lubang membesar dan lain-lain)?
Selama ini aman sih. 😁 Cuma ada bnernya jg
@@roscoechannel oh gitu om, waktu bumper AT om itu patah, apakah lubang pivot armnya membesar sehingga armnya goyang2 atau belum goyang sama sekali ?
waktu itu mekanisme AT-nya dikunci. Lobangnya sih dari awal memang tidak dibuat mekanisme AT. Hanya mekanisme pivot saja.
Untuk bumper belakang yang cocok buat ma chassis apa ya bang ?
Sliding ok, anchor ok
@@roscoechannel ok bang, makasih sarannya
sir pivot or sliding? what do you prepare
I don't understand your question
+Roscoe Channel what is the best bumper pivot or sliding
There's no best bumper. Each got theirnown mechanism which can be used depends on the layout according to the racer's preferences. Pivot can handle rocking straight better than sliding damper. Other than that, I don't know which one is better.
You better pick one, make one and practice with it. Or make both of them then try them all. 👌
+Roscoe Channel tnx
How big is the eyelet?
I didn't measure the size of the eyelet.
I didn't measure the size of the eyelet.
kalo pake yg HG bisa ga ya?
Bisa. Cb tonton di mobil versi MS saya
Did you fold the o ring into 2?
Watch the video carefully and you'll find the answer 👌
#don'tskip 😋
Oh yeah i guess you did. Thanks.
😊
Can I put it on an MS chassis?
Tadaaaah! 😁 th-cam.com/video/MkHDOtGS54Q/w-d-xo.html
@@roscoechannel Thank you!!
hello roscoe. what part number or where can i get the small oring. thank you
Can this be use for ms chassis
Yup
Thanks!
Can you make another video for ms chassis. I want to know how to install it for ms
Can the at bumper build with the lantern body damper?
This one is also a lantern body damper.
Roscoe Channel i mean, using the ms brake set lantern damper.
th-cam.com/video/MkHDOtGS54Q/w-d-xo.html
What is your front underguard?
Carbon Rear Wide Plate 1.5mm
@@roscoechannel did you make a new hole?
Yes
Where can I get the eyelets?
Super 1 / TZ / TZX / SX / VS chassis kit
@@roscoechannel Thank you.
Pesen tamiya bang
Do you sell full set of champion mini 4wd?
What do you mean by champion mini 4wd?
Roscoe Channel mean your 4wd that go for race.
O ring kecil itu dari part apa ya ??
AO parts. Small O rubber ring
@@roscoechannel itu di JT ada gk ya om ??
Yg mana?
Bro aku punya mobil udah buat mirip, aku tes di track kecil pindah jalur out trs 😂 pake batre full memang gitu ya
Mungkin perlu disetting om atau mungkin memang terlalu kencang
@@roscoechannel tq broo
@@roscoechannel bro ini derajat negatif memang ada ya bro ?,bumpernya kayak bisa ke belakang gitu kalo kita tes dorong dari pucuk ,ato memang normal ,sorry bnyk tanya soalnya udah berhasil buat sama persis cuma takut salah set
@@cindyherry1586 memang ada gan. Harus ada support tambahan supaya nggak negative angle.
@@roscoechannel ok seperti kita tambah apa ya bro? Di bagian paling dasar baut baja ama belakang baut ku ks plastik parts ku tarok biar ada derajat lalu bumper cuma dengan tekanan per 😂,naik turunny udah ok pivot ok cuma aku liat kadang bisa mudur over
Maaf saya mahu tanya sikit, kalau dipakai 19mm roller plate hadapan ini masih bisa kah? Makasih ya. Yasir dari 🇲🇾.
Tidak bisa. 13 atau 9 saja yang bisa dipakai di bumper ini. Terima kasih. 👍
Waduh, saya lebih suka guna 19mm di plate hadapan. Ngak apa lah, terima kasih atas penjelasan ya om.
Cuba 13mm, cornering cepat 😁
Sama-sama bro. Thanks for watching!
If i used HG, how can assemble that?
Have you tried making it? If you haven't, then try making it first.
How to assemble that? By doing the exact same thing like in the video. Make some effort bro.👌
@@roscoechannel
I mean same process?
By the way thanks for the tutorial. Trying to build One 😊
Yes bro. It’s the exact same process with this one. So you just need to copy it directly. Good luck.
@@roscoechannel
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bisa untuk ms chassis?
Bisa
Roscoe Channel untuk bagian bawah chassis nya ambil dari mana ya kalo buat ms chassis?
Sama aja kok
Roscoe Channel oke terimakasih 🙏🏽
ini STO ya gan ?
open class
@@roscoechannel open class maksudnya gimana bang?
Bro, gw test at setup di line change yg 3 lane, gagal mulu. Yakin lewat di LC normal?
Pastinya AT bumper bukan solusi absolut untuk setiap LC bro. Awalan sbelum LC, motor yang digunakan, setting rem, dll juga akan mempengaruhi. Bahkan cara pembuatan AT bumper ini juga bisa mempengaruhi.
Saya sudah lakukan test run, video menyusul. Setelah itu akan ada pembahasan mengenai AT bumper ini, seperti bagian2 mana yang perlu perhatian extra, kelemahan, dll.
mending pake yg sliding biasa aja
Add some angle
Akeno Akimo , I already add some angle to it
Roscoe Channel gw coba rakit ulang lagi -_-
Sebelumnya mau tanya untuk ma dan ms chasiss, apakah instalasi nya sama? Dan untuk sliding bumper bisa di pergunakan juga di bagian belakang? Thankyou!!
Iya sama kok. Bisa juga.
ni yg punya akun org indonesia pa org luar negeri ya ko da nihonggonya ,, hehehe
Indonesia gan
Kalo pake part hg bisa gak bang??
Bisa
Berapa pcs bang
Apakah sama 3 pcs
Pakai 1 aja klo HG
Bang mo tanya lagi dong klo selain pakai super x bisa pake apa lagi ya ??
Checking is the width include rollers below 105mm?
Yes
hey bro can this be use on AR chassis? thanks
Yes you can