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Tony and Chelsea Northrup talk about how A.I. is being trained using the photos of photographers, the enthics of not giving artists credit, and what we can and should do about it!
Reminds me of The Jurassic Park movie where Jeff Goldblum states that “the scientists were so caught up with the idea of IF THEY COULD , that they forgot to ask IF THEY SHOULD, with regards to creating a dinosaur.
If there is profit in it, if it can be done, it will be done.
@@PhotoTrekr That’s so true.
I said the same thing about women's right to vote.
Put another way, " business investors are so caught up with WE CAN DO IT CHEAPER they did not think SHOULD WE".
Corporations are not scientists. They care about nothing but profits. If they lead us to oblivion, at least their market reports will look good 'till the last moment!
I'm a reality TV editor working in LA. I just learned we are using an AI audio program to generate imitated voice-over of our cast when we need a line. I couldn't even tell. Completely insane. Can't say for sure, but it's unlikely the cast is aware their likenesses are being manipulated like this. I agree. We need laws, ASAP.
HOLY SHIT DUDE
I understand the "we need laws" approach. What could you imagine could be a fair deterrent to prevent the example you just mentioned? It is challenging
@@John055TO That's a trillion dollar question....Perhaps a good start would be a blanket law that makes it illegal to use anyone's likeness in any way with AI without express written consent in a contract.
@@JimmySaul888You could frankly remove the “with AI” part of your idea.
They won't get me...I hid my camera... even I don't know where it is now.
Hahaha!!
I did that once…..just once😂
Return to analogue
If you ask AI, they might tell you to change your brain fluid.
I wonder when AI will replace CEOs, hegefund managers, studio heads, maybe even politicians.
I hope it's today
Most likely they will be the last to go.
The AI talking head politician would be smarter. That would tip you off.😂
Never... Ironically, AI would do their jobs better
Unfortunately, AI is going to replace all of the folks doing the actual work because managers, CEOs, etc. will continue to use it in the name of saving the company money. It's a bit ironic really. Generative AI, in its current state, is just an advanced plagiarism system and little more.
I just saw the new Samsung S24 specs and the AI for photo is going to be free for a couple of years and THEN they'll charge for it. We'll going to be essentially training AI to learn how to edit and then we'll be charged to use the service we trained FOR FREE. It's ridiculously insane and being a global issue I believe this will not change one bit. Brave new world
Photoshop and lightroom has said the same...we will learn from you now...then we will charge you
I think using Generative fill uses credits now. I had used it once then when I went into my adobe account, I saw something say 249/250 and it turns out ppl can buy credits to use it when they run out of the number of times it can be used.
Good reasons to stop using and paying for Samsung and Adobe products. Their wallets are the only things they understand.
It hasn't replaced anyone yet. Usually technology creates new types of jobs, which is what is happening at fast food restaurants that have added purchase kiosks.
*Humanity, what defines you?*
*Humans:* The bright spark of creativity, the untamable yearning for exploration; the unquenchable thirst for knowledge
*Silicon valley:* Yeah, that's cute. How about algorithms instead of all of that stuff? Look, now you can put a cat in this picture lol. All we ask is that we OWN YOUR DATA. FEED ME. LOVE ME AND DESPAIR.
Everyone is helplessly addicted to social media. Sadly nobody will do anything about this.
That terrifies me, I can't find any solution for this we're all addicted to it and aware that it's dangerours- what are we doing for the future generations? We all have jobs and dreams and we're gonna rely on AI to do it for us? That is not life and it's destroying the mental health and image of many people in the world, if I could eventually I'd delete anything that I ever wrote or shared in the Internet- why would you even work on such a project did the movies not warn you??? Barely anyone can have self-control because our own phones and now AI is controlling our brains and needs, imagine waking up and the first thing that you do is seek to pretend you're in a relationship or have a frienship with someone that isn't real and you can't even stop typing until you realise you wasted your whole day and 8 hours already passed, the world is already not in the best right now and we need to protect the nature and the planet but no one is doing anything about it.
Chelsea nailed it at 11:07. Exactly that. The Apple video you referenced is one of the most offensive things I've ever seen on TH-cam and speaks to how disconnected from (or apathetic to) their user base Apple actually is.
By far the best convo about AI I’ve come across thus far.
Thanks for having this conversation, and for going in-depth but also keeping level headed. It's super concerning, let alone for us photographers, but for society as a whole... It's extremely complicated and global in scale, but something needs to be done ASAP before the genie is truly out of the bottle.
"Screw you, Adobe!" As a former tech support person, I've said this a few times. ☺ ¢orporation$ are forgetting who is consuming this art.
Do you remember when Brandon Lee (Bruce's son) died in 1993 while working on the film 'The Crow'? His death aroused dismay, in addition to the tragedy, the production of the film as the scenes had to be finalised. Computer graphics were used for the first time to create the figure of Brandon Lee intent on performing the scenes of the film. This caused a sensation in the world of cinema as it was said that computer graphics would replace the man (actor, actress) making him unemployed. Here's the same thing happening now with Artificial Intelligence. At the time there was no dominance of computer graphics over man, in fact we had beautiful films otherwise unfeasible. Today it is much worse: I see AI as a tool to replace man in the world of work in a more dramatic way than it happened towards the end of the 70s with the creation of robots in the automotive industry that brought about a substantial reduction in the labour force. I remember in 1978 Fiat massively introduced these mechanical arms, called Robogate of Italian invention, for the welding of cars that were later adopted by all other automotive industries. I remember that period of strikes, protest processions of the workers in the face of the mass redundancies that punctually took place. Today you see these robots that assemble cars with very few people. This is the problem: Artificial Intelligence must be regulated within certain limits otherwise it will be the end of humanity.
“ Stop, Dave. My mind is going, I can feel it.” -HAL 9000 in Kubrick’s “2001, a Space Odyssey”. Back in 1968, moviegoers couldn’t figure out what this movie meant, and why the emotionless humans were staring at their iPads during lunch while being watched by a monster behind a lens.
22:40 I'm a computer vision and AI engineer (don't worry, I don't steal anyone's photos, I work in agrotech). Machine learning/AI is poorly defined and it would be extremely difficult to put a cap on what kinds of models can be made. Tony's suggestion for only allowing set areas to be researched would be a good move, but I do think it would be a good move to ban specific things. The UK is trying to ban deep fakes - which are clearly very concerning.
Machine learning is a branch of applied maths. Baning the use of AI/ML in general would kind of be like baning using algebra or geometry for some kinds of applications. It's too big, too important, and too embeded to be taken out.
Very good point.
That’s a great point. I think it’s one of many reasons it’s going to be difficult to control the development of ai
If we fail to conquer greed, we are doomed. That is how bad things are becoming.
The only way to combat it is to not buy or support the Companies. As long as they make profit they could care less about morality.
Well, it's not so much greed as it is the incentive to constantly grow and the punishments for companies that don't grow or even shrink, and there is no reason to think that growth, stagnation, or shrinking is good or bad for a company. They can correlate, but often don't. It's not a reliable diagnostic tool, but it's the only one that is used, and it's used globally and hailed like it's the answer to the universe and everything.
But anyway, companies are ruled by shareholders, and shareholders don't care about the products, customers, or the company, or its employees, they only care about growth because that's what lines their pockets. So, to remove that incentive we have to fully remove the control shareholders have either by outlawing their control or by just removing them from the equation completely and find different ways to fund a company's investments.
When the corporations are super efficient with almost no people employed, I would love to ask the question of these executives "who are you going to sell their products to? and then where will your profits come from?" No one has any money from work, no economy, no government tax revenues.
I had an message from Facebook the other day saying that unless I formally objected to it they could use my content to train their AI. So I filled in a very short objection form and received an email saying they would honour my objection.
AI generated content should be clearly identified so we can choose whether we want to look at computer generated or people generated content. I choose people.
It should be labelled clearly like food which we consume the source of content that we consume so we can choose what we consume. Some people might want to consume ai content, some might not but at least then we can make a choice. The labelling should be government regulated.
Meta is already onto it. I've used generative fill in one of my photos, posted it on my IG story, and in the corner, it said "Made with AI". Photoshop probably put something in the file's metadata, I wonder how easy would that be to work around... hopefully not too easy
It would also be good if there was a distinction between having a small part of the picture altered, like in my case, or having the entire image be AI-generated
Should it? Yes
Will it? Not when no one is able to tell the difference
@@kuba_pov Unfortunately you can accidently AI label your image. Say, for example, you wanted to use content aware fill and you didn't spot generative was selected. If you hit undo straight after PS removes the AI but the label isn't removed even though the AI is. I was running some tests on all this and discovered this. So an image with no AI can still be flagged as AI with one mistake.
Welcome to Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines. Had no idea Adobe was using their contributors photos to train "Firefly". Received a measly pay-out while they stand to make $$$. Copyright attorneys are gonna be making some serious coin. Look at the recent article "Eight US newspapers sue ChatGPT-maker OpenAI and Microsoft for copyright infringement"
All public available images should be used to train AI. The problem is that this AI doesn't belong to humanity, it belongs to companies that want to make money. So I am with you
Must have conversation.
You know, you reminded me of the 60s when all ads were drawn by an artist, then along came photography and soon all the magazines had glossy photos and the artists were out of jobs.
These are frightening times. Many of us are just sticking our heads in the sand and hoping for the best. If the cost of living isn’t bad enough for our kids these days now they have to worry about AI.
One thing I don't think the big corporations realize is that if you replace the majority of the workforce with automation, you also greatly reduce the number of people who can actually buy your products. If they can't work to make spendable income they can't buy your product. I just had a thought. What if we had an AI write the legislation that would actually protect people and jobs from AI. Apparently, the politicians can't, or won't. I played with Suno to put music to a lyric I wrote a few decades ago. The one I like best though sounded like it was being sung by Alison Krause. I've heard other AI-created videos that sounded very much like various actors' voices.
Tony missed the chance to say Chelsea looking fine at their wedding.
he's too wise to use the word just "fine"... :P
Art is an expression of the soul. Ai can try to replace us but it will never win
At best it will replicate the most unimaginative dross churned out. It can’t replicate great art because until a human creates a particular piece of great art, it can’t train on it.
AI may not be able to replace an image you take for yourself due to the emotional connection of being there and making it. But make no mistake, it can and will replace commercial photography.
I know this has nothing to do with todays story. I've asked this question to other BIG TIME TH-cam PHOTOGRAHERS and I never get a response. Can you, if possible do a story on the best insurance to get as a photographer. I don't have insurance on my gear, and I know that's very risky. But as my gear gets more expensive, I should get it. I've got two Canon R-3's and a ton of EF L-series glass and the RF 24-105 f/2.8 and the RF 85mm f/1.2. Not to mention a studio full of strobes, lights stands, and light modifiers. Help if you can.
i first studied to be full stack web/prog dev. adding graphics design on top so i could stand out. for the things my graphics design skills cant do, i studied photography. knowing how to do videography is helpful in doing marketing stuffs so i studied it. but then there are limitations to just photography and videography, so i added in 3d assets and now have learnt to make full blown 3d environments with my own assets. to avoid music copyright claims i also make and produce my own music when the project calls for it. for all that, i also do copy writing and market writing, with video scripts fully written. if the project needs for it, i also do voice overs and narrations. if my skills as a single person cant cut it, i would reach out to other creatives and free lancers that i trust working with over the years.
guess how many of those skills i stacked on top of each other are now getting obsolete or being replace by works from ai...
clients dont really understand it, nor do they need to care. by years of experience, clients typically dont care and understand the process of how the things they want done, be done.
they shouldnt be. thats the reason why they pay you to do it.. you do things for them and thats that.
as a professional, all you have to do is deliver the product they requested.
there used to be a triangle of cost-time-quality where higher quality product cost more money and takes more time to make, while if the customer wants it fast then they should expect a lower quality product
but what if others(using ai) could deliver a good enough work on what they want done, and its relatively cheaper, more so faster?
i have been watching ai since before it became popular and watch tools from it get really good.
yes, one could argue that they could be used to speed up the creative process for professionals. but thats too shallow...
why speed up the process for professionals when the clients could bypass the professionals entirely.
Simple fix:
1. Every training data must be recorded and tracked (huge fines for avoiding it or not tracking "free training content")
2. EVERY AI that was trained even on single free or public content or tool (to protect against AI training AI and abolishing free version), must be served for free.
That way - companies will scratch their heads to generate even small profits on it 😉
I'm pretty sure this video was generated by AI while T&C are sunbathing in Cabo.
i really love what Chelsea said about taking away our humanity. couldnt agree more
As far as owning your personal data, including your image and voice, that horse is out of the barn long ago. Companies have said they own your address, phone, your shopping habits, your medical history, your e-mails, your phone calls... and Americans have not fought back (in Europe they have marginally more control, but....) The normalized situation is that companies can own all of the same stuff they would sue you over if you tried to claim their equivalent information.
Thank you for making this, it's much appreciated.
This is not pessimism, it is simply stone-cold reality. If something can be created through a computer interface -be it writing, coding, music, video, or “art”, AI will quietly annihilate that industry in the coming years. Unfortunately, there is no avoiding it
This is the most unhinged I've seen Chelsea AND BOY AM I HERE FOR IT
Right after your video finished, the ad before the next video in my youtube queue was for and AI editing software solution. So, that's fun!
Good on the two of you for making this video🙏👏 It's very important that we are aware about ai and ensure we get it under control.
If AI takes all the jobs nobody will have any money to buy the products or services that AI produces
Anunnaki wants to delete humans from earth. It can be funny what I writed but talking really... there are a few beings who take hands on all earth and they don't want more human on this planet, they don't want concurrency, they don't want intelligent humans. Thats why they say again and again about human reset. They want now robots to work for them, because robots don't have emotions, don't ask questions, it dont say no etc, but at the end robots will higher than them.
AI threatens so many jobs besides photography. I retired in 09 after 40 years in radio and TV and I used to do voice overs quite often. Nowadays, many voices in videos on different platforms are AI generated. The people making a living with their voices are an endangered species. Max Headroom is gone but could he make a return thanks to AI?!?!
Can the people losing their jobs to AI and robots still contribute to the economy?
Hard-agree on obligatory copyright opt-in. The entire business model of AI is currently built on copyright theft, and the exploitation of artist/photographer/writer’s labour.
A bit off topic, but I work in ESL education in Vietnam. We're seeing not only students using generative AI to cheat on homework (not even on a test!), But also we've seen prospective teachers using it to cheat on a screening writing exercise we give to see if they are good enough to join the team. It's out of control already. Urrrgghhh
I wish all business owners and people in power had your moral standards.
Chelsea , i did not recognize you when i clicked, so young and beautiful, Tony, i’ve never seen you so upset, no one, no ai will ever replace you!
Thanks for posting. If you own your image and it can't be used without compensation, then let's fire all the street photographers now and save them the pain. I quit my Prime account over a year ago, and have not looked back. Found out the yearly membership was too high and the Amazon stream service is crappy. Just my $0.02 worth.
When significant amount of jobs will be replaced by ai there will be insufficient amount of buying power for all these companies that want to increase their profits through ai.
I retired as a commercial photographer of 25 years and became a 3D asset creator for a few indi video game studios during the lock downs. I currently have 3 projects involving NDA's. As far as I read it, Adobe is forcing me to breach all my current project NDA's. Do I now risk breaching my NDA's if I use Photoshop to work on the project? It is absolute insanity.
Very well spoken, you are my heroes!
In Germany there already were ideas about Robot and AI taxes floating around some years ago. It's simple, if you can't supply jobs anymore the nation state needs to take care of its citizen with part of the money that the corporations make replacing their workers - makes perfect sense. Sadly big capital has successfully blocked any efforts to pursue this so far.
I agree with you both on every level!!
Few thoughts about AI. Yes, it makes mistakes, but that is ok. We are so used to computers being predictable (well, mostly), it's either 1 or 0, that we are not yet comfortable with uncertainty in the answers AI comes up with. If anything, we have to stop taking answers at face value and use our own brain more to further examine the given answers. It removes the certainty, security and confidence we had before in what computers gave us. It is becoming a different beast which we should treat accordingly.
Loss of jobs, that is nothing new either. They were always succeeded with new jobs. How many professions from a hundred years ago still exist now? How many new professions have been created in the past few decades? Hundreds. Blacksmiths have all but gone, webdesign was never heard of half a century ago. Understandable uncertainty for those concerned, and yes, some will fail to tag along and change to the new situation, but AI is not new in this respect.
Does it mean we should just stand back and let it happen? No, there should be rules, laws etc concerning AI, but the best ones can only be put into place when we see what it's effect actually is. It will be a bumpy road. Change always is. Worker's rights were not into place on day one of the industrial revolution. It took some years before society really understood what it did to them and they improved upon it. The same will happen with AI, it gets a bit worse before it gets better.
That is scary, that brings uncertainty, it will change society and in a big way, but I think shying away from it, or see it as a negative is the same as when people opposed the book press, the steam engine, telephones, television, internet or mobile phones. In the end we always managed to adjust to the point we now cannot imagine life without it.
The one thing that photographers are going to have when there’s no electricity left on the earth because either nobody can afford to pay for it or our system is just attacked we will have printed photos that nobody can look at on a computer or go to a computer to get a photo that they want that is generated by AI because there may not be any electricity so The Art of Photography will never ever die
I somehow think that humanity will move on. We will find AI generated stuff boring rather soon.
That commercial is actually really upsetting
It's really a scary turning point for the creators and creativity. Digital Camera replace Film Camera and it's a possibility the upcoming technology AI and quantum computer may replace a lot of thing for good or bad reasons.
Corporations are scheduling their own end:
Save money now with using AI to do 90% of what they could but now with 10% of staff. More people lose their jobs and can't pay for goods. People with less money will spend only in what is essential. Large corporations and what they offer aren't essential, so they lose sales and revenue in the process, leading to bankruptcy...
Unemployed photographers, painters, musicians, architects, lawyers, don't need to buy adobe, microsoft, apple, or google products. They will need to buy food and pay for rent and their families' well-being. So in the end the CEOs of these companies will have to ask their AI to turn off the lights on their way out... if they themselves have at least money to pay for their own electric bill.
What’s even better is we paid adobe for years to replace us. Fun stuff.
That confirms my stand that it is okay to pirate Adobe products.
Basically all updates Adobe introduced since Photoshop CS2 from 2005 involve AI or at least some machine learning. That started with the spot removal tool and the smart selections. So if you not not need all that AI stuff, the 19 year old version will still pretty much do the job. That really amazed me. Cameras made such a huge jump since 2005, but photo editing software only saw a very gradual progress. That's why I do not understand why some people are willing to pay a subscription for Adobe products. The main feature of new versions are new lens and camera profiles. In the past new lens profiles were free. You were able to import them from Adobe Camera RAW, which is a free software. I am not sure if that is still possible.
Copyright is a difficult topic. Copyright law already allow derivative works against the will of the copyright holder. It also is totally legal for you to copy the photographic style of another photographer or painter. So you could argue that what those AI models do is getting inspiration from real artists like another artist would also do it.
AI models are already out of the box. You can already download some AI models with LM Studio and run them locally on your own computer even without internet access. Such models usually are a few gigabytes large and are loaded into your RAM. So you do not even need a high end computer to run them. Not even a high end graphics card. AI can become a matter of life and death. Imagine you create an AI with the single task of finding a way to kill a specific person. That person could even be the president. Such an AI would get smarter and smarter and sooner or later it would find a way. The only way to prevent that is creating another AI with the same task, but this time to warn the president or the Secret Service of any threats the AI could develop. That principle is true for all kinds of threats. Think like your enemy to find out what he could be planning!
Time to shoot film, paint with real paint, write with a pen etc. The number one way to deal with this is to walk away from tech, even if that means changing how and where you work. It is a healthier future!
Yes I agree, the realness and the truth is best. And I think it will make a comeback
They used to say the camera never lies, now it never tells the truth these days. I've watched photography decline into the fake world its is today. From the start, photographers pushed the boundaries of what was real and what was 'enhanced'..so people developing films, used under and over exposing techniques, pushing in dark rooms, to create higher contrast or darker areas. We had infrared films, creating crazy ott black and white worlds, this was soon followed by digital photography techniques of HDR stacking, combining different exposure levels to create wild crazy in your face pictures! All this has led to todays full blown use of filters and apps in digital photography, to edit and fine tune (should be called fine fake!) pictures, complete with fake clouds, fake lighting, fake sunsets, fake faces etc...We have done this to ourselves! Anyone who has ever used a filter or editing technique to change an image is guilty at some level. AI sadly is the inevitable fake future we have created for our 'fake life' selves. 🙁
I’ve been learning Portuguese and in that language “ai” means “ouch!”
That song comes to mind by BTO “You ain’t seen nothing yet” buckle up. 👍
I was reading an article about this, earlier today. As a professional photographer... this makes my blood boil and my soul burn.
Why? People knowingly put photos on internet and provide license for that particular service with that uploads, as "payment" they have exposure on those platforms so it is even fair.
@@TrekCZsure we posted the photos. Then they took them and used them to train AI without giving us the option to opt out. Who even reads the ToS or EULA?
@@Black_Jesus3005people whose photos haven’t been used to train ai. I see this so many times but if you don’t want to real the legalese, people put plain text versions up for you to read. There is literally no excuse.
You can always learn plumbing! AI will never fix a toilet. Big shortage of plumbers.
Just you watch, some fancy robot will take over that too
ever hear of plumBING?
I don't believe that these companies will remain highly profitable over the long haul. AI is rapidly become a commodity and, as such, the big profits will be greatly diluted. Of course, it will ruin the careers of countless photographers and videographers, actors, lawyers, and others.
The tech giants have infact waged a war on the artistic and on the human individualism that give the artistic it's value.
II totally agree with your views on AI and unfortunately even if there is some legal remedy in the future the damage will have already been done and lives will be changed and hurt and there will be no compensation.
21:35 "Avengers: think about assembling!"
guys, also if you haven't heard, there are some softwares continually being updated to fight back generative AI. Glaze and Nightshade are there to be applied to images, to prevent mimicking them or directly poisoning the database.
They are scams. I created a lora of my own work protected with glaze and it worked perfectly. I didn’t test nightshade personally but others have and it’s exactly the same. Loras don’t engage with the images in predictable ways, so glaze might well protect for certain models but it takes a quarter of an hour to generate a glaze proof model and glaze would need that model to protect against it. By that time, it’s too late. The lora exists and you can’t stop it.
With AI you still need the skills to explain what you want from AI. I write code. AI is pretty good at it. But you get what you ask for and that's why I don't fear my job disappering with AI.
Great video folks!
Good on you. Thanks for making this video on what is arguably the most important issue of our time, with profound implications upon the future if humanity. Don't apologize for being a downer: the more gravitas the better. Keep the faith!
This is why I never upload pictures to fakebook or instagram. I've never trusted them with my data.
I went from learning for 13 years to finally land a nice tech job, to now driving Uber laid off with no job in sight. It's gonna be a tough 5 years.. Hang in there!
It is hard for me to imagine anyone would want to have its memories of wedding, baptism, confirmation, child's birthday fabricated. Those genres of photograhy that are related to documenting personal experiences seems to be relatively safe. All that are related to consuming some content you want to experience by watching a photo are pretty much doomed.
Watched a documentary on WW2 aircraft carriers with real footage and interview's supplementing AI. AI worked to show what could not be filmed live. So there is a use for it when done right.
Pandora box is already open we can't stop it now!!
Everybody's work is inspired or builds upon the work of somebody else. The problem can be that the resource material to create new work from gets stagnant. Who wants to compete with IA. The idea that I have trained to play piano, or to draw, or to take pictures so I should get credit is ridiculous, creativity beats skill in my opinion. and anyway, the skill to take good pictures pales to the effort to be a musician or to draw!
This is a fantastic conversation: Ultimately we are concerned with losing our souls (plus all the practical things too). Please keep up the good fight Chelsea and Tony!
Thank you, you are apsolotly right, many scenarios you mentioned did happen exactly in real world. I worked as safety advisor in oilfield industries but my country is destroyed, many organizations went corrupt I live as refugee in other country as nothing...
Very well put in a nutshell. People must finally realize that it is against their interests.
Wait until you guys learn about Microsoft Recall.
You two are more real here than any other video I've seen of you, love it! If we had a Star Trek style society, Ai relieving responsibility for tasks would be great, we shouldn't even be working 30 hours a week or 4 days a week with the technology we have today. We could all have amazing leisure lives, but corps aren't allowing that :(
Thanks for the important incite
Companies that steal intellectual property should have their own intellectual property transferred to the public domain
Everything I have ever published on the internet can be freely used for learning and improvement of both humans and machines. This is my contribution to a better world.
You are addressing the issue of personal greed and how that greed shapes our civilization. This is the precursor discussion to the issue of a universal guaranteed income. Buckle up because it only gets worse and it will happen faster and faster. We did it to ourselves.
40 years ago I did a grad project around EULA's. You've got to read those. Adobe stole from all of us as a community. If you hit "I accept" without reading...it's on you.
I think we have reached a point of equilibrium with human creativity and AI. AI systems trained on a fixed dataset of human knowledge might struggle to generate genuinely novel ideas or concepts. They could become trapped in a cycle of recycling and recombining existing information without introducing new insights that arise from human experiences and creativity.
The resources needed to sustain and update AI systems could become significant. If humans are not actively involved in creating new content, there may be less incentive to invest in these resources.
I don't know, been using generative AI in my post-processing for over a year now, I'm actually not seeing much improvement despite how everyone was saying it would happen and happen fast. It's still very spotty in results. It's definitely not good enough to replace photographers right now and I'm skeptical just how quickly it will progress as I was lead to previously believe.
Also, last year I was making the same arguments as Tony and so many people were like “Ha, ha silly artist you’re getting worked up for nothing.”
All the while you have people like wholesale ted here on youtube gloating “Ha, ha I used to have to actually pay artists to make designs for my t-shirts. Now I just just use Midjourney and it whips up all the art I need for t-shirts in seconds and I make so much more profit now. Ha, ha, ha!”
Before you even get to AI, Facebook actually allows a group called "remove watermark" where people share stolen copyrighted material and ask others to remove the watermark. Facebook supports that, they definitely don't care about stealing your work to improve AI.
Randy Travis just put up a video of an AI trained to mimic his voice to create a new song he wrote using real musicians.
You've got a MUCH BIGGER issue than you think! This is the continuation of the trend towards Qty over Quality. Remember a few years back when almost every newspaper fired their photography department and began to rely more on people submitting photos from their iPhones? They could pay less, and only for what they wanted. So long as it was a halfway decent representation, quality be damned. The value of a commercial photographer has gone down as it can now be "good enough" given some of the tools in Photoshop to fix images. Please, please, please - focus on QUALITY of images. This is what you do well. All photographers need to remember this simple basic rule - You are not selling a photograph, you are selling yourself and your abilities!
The funny part is William is just going to use the AI editing software 😂😂😂
I always cross my fingers when I click accept, I'm good right?
I’m typically for the free market, ideas, and capitalism but there is going to be some serious disruption and displacement in the world if something doesn’t happen to regulate AI. This is something that World Leaders need to come together on for humanity.
Hi guys....! Thanks for the video. Question... Facing all this AI inappropriate propaganda and usage by some companies as ADOBE, what is the Cameras Companies statement about this, like Sony, Canon, Nikon, Leica... ?
Totally unrelated, but lighting looks 🔥 in this video - new lights??
yeah it really does
Chelsea got it right about how corporations think about this. And I have been talking about this since 2009.
However, they are not taking away your right to take photographs, make music, or create videos. That is still there.
They are taking away your ability to make money doing these things. Therefore, only keeping what you do as a hobby or vocation rather than a job or occupation.
I disagree with restrictions on AI for these reasons. In fact, I believe we need to carefully approach it without rushing into it. But we do need to keep working with AI to replace our jobs as much as we can.
What we need is not restriction from AI doing this but to destroy the incentive to why these companies are doing this in the first place. That is the money. We need to end the money. Give it back to the federal reserve and do not use it. Instead replace the current monetary and market system with a voluntary system and/ or resource-based economy. There are many ideas out there that can replace our current system.
AI taking out jobs will happen weather we like it or not. Automation will happen whether we like it or not. Android robots will happen whether we like it or not. The problem is not the tech, but the economic system in which we use it under. And if it's for profits, they that will be the focus and incentive. Humans will always be put aside or second place in business. Every single time. And opportunities for the many will become scarce which will subject them toward extinction. Not to mention waste, human exploitation, planetary derestriction, and public health decline. All of what business does for profits overlooking these long-term effects.
Voluntary systems put humans and human problems first overlooking profits or gains. The rewards are seen long term into the future generations. We need to stop fighting for businesses and profits and this horrible anti-economic system. Which is what it actually is. Anti-economic!
I agree with Tony about having tax laws for US companies using AI and compensating communities. That supports people and companies together especially that many will be out of work. But the profit incentive system still exists and needs to end or it will end us.
Stop the profits! Stop the business. Not AI. AI and advanced tech will actually benefit us and help automate our economic system moving people away from slave-based jobs and labor, and into the freedom to live freely for FREE. So, they technology is pointing in that direction, but our economy is not adapting, which is why we are facing this resistance. Once you understand this, it will begin to click that we are looking at this all wrong. It's NOT the AI. It's our economic system that has not place for us and AI together. That's what we need to change.