Hi, I'm still a little confused on what this box does. I want to buy a Roku for 4K streaming to my Epson 5040UB projector, but my 4K enabled Yamaha pass-thru receiver does not support HDCP 2.2. Are you suggesting that if I put this Blackbird box between the Roku and the receiver that It'll trick the Roku into thinking HDCP 2.2 is present and then pass the 4K video, but suppress the HDR? Also, you suggest that HDR makes video lose it's grittiness and looks like it was made at home. Can you please expound on what you're saying here? Thanks!
Hi Tony, no worries. Yes, technically this lets you pass the 4K signal minus the HDR information. It’s a work between that made more sense before players had two HDMI outputs (one for the picture, the other for audio) that way you didn’t have to update your AV receiver or processor. If you go with a Panasonic 420, you’d be able to run your HDMI 2.2 directly to your projector and use the second audio only HDMI for running sound to your AVR. This video is dated as technology changed. I may update it. Let me know if this helps. Thanks!
@@hometheaterhobby9450 Yeah, I understand about the 2 HDMI ports on the projector. I'm allocating the 1st HDMI port for a UHD Blu-ray player and using the 2nd HDMI port for my receiver (typically just watching Tivo non 4k). The question is about if I wanted a 3rd device (Roku in this case) for streaming 4K. From what you're saying, this should work with the Blackbird in place to trick the Roku into sending 4K despite the receiver not being HDCP 2.2. Is this still 'dated tech' in this case? Is there a more modern solution without having to upgrade my receiver to HDCP 2.2? Any thoughts on your statement that HDR causes a loss of 'grittiness' and that it makes it look 'made at home'? Thanks
This will work perfectly for what you are wanting to accomplish. The reason I said it was dated was due to the fact you’ll get 4K @24Hz not 60Hz which is a staple of the newer technology. Also, in my opinion HDR can add something special to the right films. But I think it can be distracting as well. Hope this helps
@@hometheaterhobby9450 Stepping up to 60Hz for my system is a domino decision! My 40' HDMI active cables (professionally installed a few years back running outside the house and to my AV cabinet) are only good for 10.2GHz and my projector and receiver are the same. Fortunately I also had the installer put in a pair of Cat6 cables for future balun use so that should allow 60Hz 4:4:4 at 18+Gbps when I'm ready. Since I am only watching movies and no gaming, hoping I won't miss the 60Hz and at some point I'll upgrade everything for 60 and HDCP 2.2. So my best video now will come from the UHD player with HDR at 4K 24/30 at 4:2:2 (or 4:4:4 at 8bit) , 2nd best will be from the Roku/Blackbird sans HDR at 4K 24 and last will be upscaled 1080p from my Tivo on Comcast. Thanks so much for helping me understand this! If you have any other tips or clarifications for me, I sure appreciate it!
will this change the 1080i that my cable box gives out to 1080P for a better picture? will i also get 4K even though my tv is 4K ready will i get a sharper picture?
What TV do you have? This works by allowing the 4K signal to pass over 1.4 HDMI bypassing the 2.0 requirement. If your TV is 4K, it’s a progressive signal natively, so your 1080i signal is scaling up for your 4K TV.
It’s only a pass-through of the source data, but removing the HDR allows the 4K signal to go to your non-HDR TV, monitor, or other. It doesn’t up-convert the data if I’m understanding the question. Let me know.
@@hometheaterhobby9450 Sounds like you do understand. Sucks cause unless you have dual 4K pc monitors, 4K netflix doesnt work unless you only use 1 monitor. I was hoping to use this from my 1440p to upscale if you will or trick netflix into think its 4k. Sucks.
Omg thank you man you made this so simple for me. Appreciate it.
23williammurphy23 thx, Happy it helps
Many thanks. I appreciate the explanation.
Hi, I'm still a little confused on what this box does. I want to buy a Roku for 4K streaming to my Epson 5040UB projector, but my 4K enabled Yamaha pass-thru receiver does not support HDCP 2.2. Are you suggesting that if I put this Blackbird box between the Roku and the receiver that It'll trick the Roku into thinking HDCP 2.2 is present and then pass the 4K video, but suppress the HDR? Also, you suggest that HDR makes video lose it's grittiness and looks like it was made at home. Can you please expound on what you're saying here? Thanks!
Hi Tony, no worries. Yes, technically this lets you pass the 4K signal minus the HDR information. It’s a work between that made more sense before players had two HDMI outputs (one for the picture, the other for audio) that way you didn’t have to update your AV receiver or processor. If you go with a Panasonic 420, you’d be able to run your HDMI 2.2 directly to your projector and use the second audio only HDMI for running sound to your AVR. This video is dated as technology changed. I may update it. Let me know if this helps. Thanks!
@@hometheaterhobby9450 Yeah, I understand about the 2 HDMI ports on the projector. I'm allocating the 1st HDMI port for a UHD Blu-ray player and using the 2nd HDMI port for my receiver (typically just watching Tivo non 4k). The question is about if I wanted a 3rd device (Roku in this case) for streaming 4K. From what you're saying, this should work with the Blackbird in place to trick the Roku into sending 4K despite the receiver not being HDCP 2.2. Is this still 'dated tech' in this case? Is there a more modern solution without having to upgrade my receiver to HDCP 2.2? Any thoughts on your statement that HDR causes a loss of 'grittiness' and that it makes it look 'made at home'? Thanks
This will work perfectly for what you are wanting to accomplish. The reason I said it was dated was due to the fact you’ll get 4K @24Hz not 60Hz which is a staple of the newer technology. Also, in my opinion HDR can add something special to the right films. But I think it can be distracting as well. Hope this helps
@@hometheaterhobby9450 Stepping up to 60Hz for my system is a domino decision! My 40' HDMI active cables (professionally installed a few years back running outside the house and to my AV cabinet) are only good for 10.2GHz and my projector and receiver are the same. Fortunately I also had the installer put in a pair of Cat6 cables for future balun use so that should allow 60Hz 4:4:4 at 18+Gbps when I'm ready. Since I am only watching movies and no gaming, hoping I won't miss the 60Hz and at some point I'll upgrade everything for 60 and HDCP 2.2. So my best video now will come from the UHD player with HDR at 4K 24/30 at 4:2:2 (or 4:4:4 at 8bit) , 2nd best will be from the Roku/Blackbird sans HDR at 4K 24 and last will be upscaled 1080p from my Tivo on Comcast. Thanks so much for helping me understand this! If you have any other tips or clarifications for me, I sure appreciate it!
will this change the 1080i that my cable box gives out to 1080P for a better picture? will i also get 4K even though my tv is 4K ready will i get a sharper picture?
What TV do you have? This works by allowing the 4K signal to pass over 1.4 HDMI bypassing the 2.0 requirement. If your TV is 4K, it’s a progressive signal natively, so your 1080i signal is scaling up for your 4K TV.
@@hometheaterhobby9450 i got a samsung Hd uhd 4k tv
What model? You shouldn’t need this, it’s for UHD TVs with HDMI 1.4, most models have 2.0 or newer now.
@@hometheaterhobby9450 my cable box out puts 1080i so does my tv then changes that resolution to 1080p 4k?
@@hometheaterhobby9450 UN50NU7100
Does it decode Dolby Digital? DD no DD+
It’s a pass through - it will send those signals to your receiver or processor.
Will this work froma PC monitor that is 1.4 into that device, then plug into the PC to upgrade content to look like 4k?
It’s only a pass-through of the source data, but removing the HDR allows the 4K signal to go to your non-HDR TV, monitor, or other. It doesn’t up-convert the data if I’m understanding the question. Let me know.
@@hometheaterhobby9450 Sounds like you do understand. Sucks cause unless you have dual 4K pc monitors, 4K netflix doesnt work unless you only use 1 monitor. I was hoping to use this from my 1440p to upscale if you will or trick netflix into think its 4k. Sucks.
will this work with my xbox one to output 4k/60hz from 1080p/60hz,as at the moment i get 4k at 30hz
Stuart Edwards no, the 1.4 can not output 60hz at 4K or at least it’s not listed to perform at that refresh rate.