@@connorlowe7979 yes, but still it feels different bc in s1 the base group was forming smoothly, new person by new person. Unlike in s2 when Clem after loosing Christa joined already completely formed group of a lot of new people. By the end base of this group is DEAD. In S1 someone from base group(base group I mean where forming of initial relationships have been completed in the 1st-2nd episodes of any seasons) passed through the next season, someone just disappeared (for example Lilly). Here, from S2 base group nobody entered the next seasons. Except for AJ. That’s what I meant
I think Christa not protecting Clem was her way of giving up on Clem. She was still resentful over Omid, and it was obvious she didnt want to be with her anymore
Finally! Someone who agrees with me that Season 2 is amazing! The music, the dialogue, damn. People who complain about how the choices don’t matter don’t realize that this is the reality of the apocalypse, sometimes people leave and you never see them again. Sometimes you try to save someone but it isn’t enough. The pathos in this season is wrenching, but honest.
exactly! the games are doing their best to remain realistic whilst also making the story thrilling. they do really well to submerge the player in the game
The choices can still matter, and still show the reality of an apocalypse. And its not just about the choices, its also about the awful characters. Its also about how absolutely nobody survives. And the one person who does, meaninglessly dies anyways. So many objective flaws inn this game sarah or luke should've survived, and kenny shouldve been more unlikable as thats what they wanted to portray him as. But kindve failed
@@FemboyKaiSaku The game never forced the player to feel any sort of way, dunno why people think that. Kenny's flaws are apparent, plain as day, and other characters in universe see that and dislike him. So they interact with Clementine (us), with that in mind. It makes complete sense that anyone in the apocalypse who didnt know Kenny prior to his trauma wouldn't trust him as far as they could throw him. We can still side with him anyway! The game wasn't trying to lead up to Clem killing Kenny or hating Kenny, all agency is still with the player to let Jane die, talk about WHY what she did was dumb, and go with Kenny. It's also a literal miracle that Clementine is alive by Season 2 and survives past it. A zombie apocalypse and you're with a group that are all being hunted by a unstable family man and his group of gunmen, plus the escape from said settlement through a herd of walkers. Nobody should've survived, but obviously Clem did and the others slowly died off in their own ways as is natural in this kind of world. Luke's death was quick and underwhelming. No heroic send off, no final goodbye, just dies like everybody else. As it should be
@@artemisfowl1862 yeah and my point is that so many people dying means that we have much less time to build characters to care about. If sarah survived and season 3 was more revolved around her and clem and aj. Instead of a whole new cast, it would've been way way better. but nuh because they decided to kill everyone, we end up with a whole new cast who i personally liked. But how much better it could have been from a writing standpoint. We couldve also kept bonnie or mike, or both. Or couldve had them have some part in the whole kenny vs jane thing. Instead of them doing something completely out of character endangering a baby, very obviously just a thing to throw away the characters. all of what kenny did, wasn't actually that bad. Mostly he was just overly aggressive, but directed at bad people. Jane can be likeable, but by the end she does an absolutely awful thing. And she also threatens arvo. So that makes the end choice, a lot less impactful when its deciding between kenny and this awful girl
@@artemisfowl1862 and even luke's death is super goofy, the right choice is to cover him. And bonnie goes over to help? That doesn't even make sense, the ice falling is the problem so how will making it heavier help lol. Like i enjoyed the game, but whenn you even think about it a little bit theres so much wasted potential and so much flaws
I know Kenny disappeared last season , but this game would of made so much more sense to have kenny as the playable character, Afterall the writers force clementine to have sudden maturity to be the lead and someone the people depend on constantly when shes only 11 and is alone for the first time, They dont even hide how much they dumb down the background characters .Kenny on the otherhand would make more sense to be another parental/teacher figure to follow up as clementine be a lead in thr future games
seen people suggest a few other characters that couldve possibly been the playable ones this season, i think it could’ve been cool to have separate stories for kenny and clem
Kenny's last words were heartbreaking. I haven't cried this much since Lee's death. I'm not mad because it's your playthrough, but I couldn't shoot Kenny. That fight wouldn't have happened if it wasn't for Jane. She put Aj at risk to prove a point. I get Kenny was a loose canon, but he literally lost so much and was already at his breaking point, and thinking Aj was dead pushed him over the edge.
i think it was more the fact i couldn’t just let him kill jane, i was more hoping that if i shot it would just disable/shock him, rather than killing him. however thats far too hopeful when playing a walking dead game 😅
The best part of zombie apocalypse movies/shows/games are the parts where you get to see those alive enjoy those short moments to enjoy life like it was, sitting around a fire chatting it up, eating, hell even going for a ride and sitting in the vehicle BSing.
I mean I personally enjoyed season 3 more then two as I felt I could actually get attached to the cast we had without them dying not even a minute after meeting them 😂 but I’m so glad you loved season two I like it too outside of some issues I just enjoy season 3 more especially when I got through it myself (Javier my beloved)
season 2 is just the writers thinking dead good characters are "engaging" like wtf dude luke & pete was so chill above everyone else that has gone insane and psycho
Fantastic video! 💯 I Love Season 2 and I view it as an absolute Masterpiece. This video does an amazing job of illustrating why this game is awesome! 🔥To me, Season 1, Season 2, and The Final Season of Telltale's Walking Dead are all 10/10 Masterpieces.
finally somebody giving it its due i never realized season 2 was the most disliked of the series its my fav for me. I always thought season 3 was the weakest of the bunch cause most the characters are just not very interesting in i felt like i had little to no connection to any of them other then Clem and Mariana for the most part and one of those only had like 2 mins of screen time lol
Seasons one and two's quality are only slightly off from one another, and then there's a gap between three and four. While in the end I think 1 is the better overall season, I've always enjoyed 2 to a similar and sometimes greater degree than 1, but it just wouldn't work without 1 coming before 2, if that makes sense. 1 is the context to 2, and 2 builds upon it well.
im back for another video my man. You should remember me from the last walking dead video EDIT: When i saw carver i more thought of Philip or Bryan Blake (The Govoner) instead of Negan
@@b33d33 i indeed enjoyed it. But yea in the show Milton reveals how they lose the need to eat and that they starve like anything else does just really slowly. I hated Hershel's death in the show. Hershel saved Carl and basically the entire group. When he got bit I thought he would have died there. In the timeline from that to when he officially died i gained too much of a bond with him in that time and kinda wish he died from that bite. Philip or Bryan whatever his name is (why is he referred with 2 names? idk why) I honestly didn't want him to die either. Hes one of those villains that kills your favorite character but you still love. Like Negan. Glenn was my favorite character in the entire series and i love Negan except when he bashed my favorite characters face in
the reason i thought he was similar to negan, was the eye for an eye tooth for a tooth thing. when his henchman got taken out in the cabin, he immediately takes out walter. glad you enjoyed the video! :)
@@b33d33 he does remind of negan know. Hope you do more seasons. Cant wait for your reaction on the final season if you do it. (i hope you do i love these videos)
Even though I did the exact same ending my first playthrough. I'm pretty sure somebody told you that you should have went with Kenny. His endings are actually better
Oh boy season 2 what a shame, this season was great however it has many many issues for starters everyone in the group Clem gets to know dies, everyone is a group of adults yet they always rely on Clem to get them out of tight situations, Group slanders Kenny like the bunch of losers they are, your decisions don't matter regardless of what you do it's the same exact outcome e.g. Taking/not taking pills from Arvo he will attack you regardless overall this season was a train wreck while Kenny and Carver are highlights for me everything else pales sadly and I do love this season but these are glaring issues for me and while this season is infinitely better than season 3 and I'm just saddened by all the wasted potential of Luke and Nick having significant parts to the story.
I enjoyed this season, as well. I think a lot of people who complain about none of the choices mattering here just... forgot that's how season 1 worked, as well? Telltale games in general don't change much despite your choices, that's kind of their 'thing' and it's been a problem with season 1 just as much as season 2, so I'm not sure why people beat season 2 down so hard for it when season 1 has the same issue.
yes exactly! season 1 was the same with the fact that: if a character is going to die, they will and you cant stop that. our decisions just change HOW they die
This was a great video to watch. I felt season 2 was strange, they relied on Clementine for everything and the way they loved Arvo was so strange. Jane hiding AJ in the freezing cold is just a massive red flag to me. I had fun playing it but the characters in this season were just not as good as season 1 for me.
@@b33d33 ok i finally finished it and tbh ive watched a LOT of videos on all 4 of the games like this, and this has to be one of the more unique perspectives ive heard anyone have and i cant wait for ur review of the 3rd game if you decide to continue the series
@@b33d33 no disrespect brother, I appreciate the time and dedication it took to make an hour+ long video and I’ll definitely end up listening to the whole thing at work, it’s in my watch later. TH-cam is the only thing that makes my job bearable lol.
Season 2 is terrible, the entire season a bunch of grown adults are being taught how to survive by a 10 year old. And basically every decision you make doesnt matter cuz the people will just die anyways. Season 1 was the best season ever when i finished it i knew they wouldnt be able to make something that good again
Personally I think they killed characters off a bit too liberally this season. 1 second its a big group and then half of them are gone. I get its literally an apocalpse and people are going to die, but its hard to really get attached to them and care when they die. like the random Keeny fellow at the end, womp womp, could barely remember his name tbh.
I respect your opinion on this season being good for you but not for me but I don't hate it as much other people do and I couldn't kill kenny over personally I didn't like jane purposely risk aj life just prove a point to a man who already got anger issues and the game trying hard make him seem like a bad person in season 2 specially over what happen with avro who I hate cause he still shoot a little girl even if you was nice to him and defend him from kenny like sure kenny has flaws what characters in this game doesn't but regardless I know he has good heart like lee and in the end if you let him live like I did in my playthrough he give up going to wellington to make sure clem and aj was safe shows how much he care for the two no hate to you staying with jane through
I used to love it, now I feel like S2 is just a disaster. If you wanna like it, fine. It’s your own opinion. But for me and others critically it’s a significant downgrade over S1. I feel like it’s getting the Star Wars prequels effect where people ignore issues of a previous game/ movie because it’s sequel movies/ games were worse. It’s flawed logic
i understand where youre coming from, but in reality, the first season was that good that i feel its almost impossible to make something that doesnt seem like a downgrade. i agree its definitely not as good, but i reckon its still a great game :)
@@b33d33 I get that. It’s just for me there was too many cooks in the kitchen and a lot of characters or storylines felt half done. Like how past episode 2 a lot of the cabin survivors effectively become background characters, where that didn’t feel quite as obvious in S1.
I honestly think that Sarah is less of a reflection of what clem could've been, and more of what Lee would've done, if chuck hadn't of said what he did. I also like to think of it less as incapable adults and more of adults who don't care about Clementine. The only 2 people who mention clementine is a child/actually help or go with her are Carlos and Luke. I believe they're the only 2 who care any amount, aside from Pete. The rest of that group specifically simply don't give a crap about clem, or what happens to her. So she does all the dangerous and crappy stuff. I think a different perspective is all that's needed to see a story as good❤ I love your videos❤ Editited to say I also don't believe anything about Sarah having issues. She was what, 11/12 when the apocalypse started? Young enough for people to want to protect her. She looks young now. I think she was overly shielded /before/ the end of the world, and everything falling apart simply sent Sarah to a state of panic limbo. Carlos dying is what flung her back to reality.
@@kingofgrim4761 that ruins it for me. Not because I have anything against disorders, but I preferred the way they did Ben. There doesn't always have to be a reason or a notion of sympathy for a character to be well developed. I believe Sarah's arc would've been better if we'd have seen more independent actions and less of her obeying Carlos. I wished you could've helped her rebel and come out of her shell :(
@ the fact they have a disorder shouldn’t really change how you feel about the character. It’s not about the sympathy. It’s both inclusion and makes sense given her character/personality.
No no no! This season had terrible writing all the way through. It was a bi-product of the old writers killing off Lee too soon. Killing off characters left and right is realistic? Then what’s up with the constant rendezvous with the season 1 cast? First Omid and Christa then Kenny after all that distance that was made between them over the span of two years? Carver, this so called survivalist holds over 10 people up at gunpoint with a couple who are armed, while not having the gun pointed at them either. Carver literally turns away from them to shoot Clementine yet no one, not even Kenny intervenes. Everyone starts running out of the herd of zombies while screaming at the top of their lungs and only the red shirts get killed off? Like how is Bonnie, Mike and Kenny not getting absolutely demolished by the walkers around them with all the noise they’re constantly making? Characters only die when the plot says so. Thats why certain characters die and others continue on to make things worse for the sake of the plot. Like Bonnie getting Luke killed. Bonnie was basically the embodiment of this terrible writing. God both her and Mike should’ve died long ago if this story was actually realistic. Same with Nick before the group met with Kenny’s group. You seriously need to turn your brain off for this season for it to be remotely realistic.
i personally thought it was a good mix of realism but also creating enough shock to make the story entertaining. if the game only consisted of people who knew exactly what they were doing and never got fooled or caught off guard, it mightve made for quite the boring game 😅
@ If you don’t care about well written stories then what right do you have to call this one a masterpiece? This season was the spark that burnt down TellTale.
I could go on and on about how fucking useless the characters were in this season. The only two I liked were Pete and Luke (Even though he said and did some stupid stuff, and was kind of a hoe, I would take him over any of the others). Nick was a Ben 2.0, Alvin did fuck all until the writers made him do so, Carlos clearly got his degree in the back of an alleyway, Rebecca is just an incubator, Bonnie is one of the biggest pick mes in gaming history, If Mike disappeared randomly I don’t think the story would change at all, Kenny is Kenny, and Jane is a mess of poorly constructed writing
Shooting Kenny was the best option in my opinion narratively. Set the mood that the whole season was building up to, that unhinged Kenny being put down before he became another Carver. For me, I'm not a Kenny hater more so a Kenny fan hater. The fact I often get accused of siding with Jane for daring to not side with Kenny is utterly ridiculous. Jane doesn't know how to deal with people, meanwhile Kenny was a ticking time bomb.
i agree, realistically people would have said the ending was terrible if it was only possible that jane died. it makes for a far more emotional end to the season
He never became another Carver, nor was there an actual reason to believe that would happen; other than falling for the gaslighting by the other characters.
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the fact that all the characters from first episode’s house are dead by 5th episode is diabolical for me
Technically not every one. AJ was in Rebeccas belly and very much alive so that makes him the only one from the cabin group surviving!
I agree but everyone except Lee, Clementine and Kenny were all that remained from Episode 1 by the time we got to Episode 5.
@@connorlowe7979 yes, but still it feels different bc in s1 the base group was forming smoothly, new person by new person. Unlike in s2 when Clem after loosing Christa joined already completely formed group of a lot of new people. By the end base of this group is DEAD. In S1 someone from base group(base group I mean where forming of initial relationships have been completed in the 1st-2nd episodes of any seasons) passed through the next season, someone just disappeared (for example Lilly). Here, from S2 base group nobody entered the next seasons. Except for AJ. That’s what I meant
should’ve left bonnie to drown😭💀
I think Christa not protecting Clem was her way of giving up on Clem. She was still resentful over Omid, and it was obvious she didnt want to be with her anymore
their relationship definitely seemed edgy after omid died
Finally! Someone who agrees with me that Season 2 is amazing! The music, the dialogue, damn. People who complain about how the choices don’t matter don’t realize that this is the reality of the apocalypse, sometimes people leave and you never see them again. Sometimes you try to save someone but it isn’t enough. The pathos in this season is wrenching, but honest.
exactly! the games are doing their best to remain realistic whilst also making the story thrilling. they do really well to submerge the player in the game
The choices can still matter, and still show the reality of an apocalypse.
And its not just about the choices, its also about the awful characters. Its also about how absolutely nobody survives. And the one person who does, meaninglessly dies anyways. So many objective flaws inn this game
sarah or luke should've survived, and kenny shouldve been more unlikable as thats what they wanted to portray him as. But kindve failed
@@FemboyKaiSaku The game never forced the player to feel any sort of way, dunno why people think that. Kenny's flaws are apparent, plain as day, and other characters in universe see that and dislike him. So they interact with Clementine (us), with that in mind. It makes complete sense that anyone in the apocalypse who didnt know Kenny prior to his trauma wouldn't trust him as far as they could throw him. We can still side with him anyway! The game wasn't trying to lead up to Clem killing Kenny or hating Kenny, all agency is still with the player to let Jane die, talk about WHY what she did was dumb, and go with Kenny.
It's also a literal miracle that Clementine is alive by Season 2 and survives past it. A zombie apocalypse and you're with a group that are all being hunted by a unstable family man and his group of gunmen, plus the escape from said settlement through a herd of walkers. Nobody should've survived, but obviously Clem did and the others slowly died off in their own ways as is natural in this kind of world. Luke's death was quick and underwhelming. No heroic send off, no final goodbye, just dies like everybody else. As it should be
@@artemisfowl1862 yeah and my point is that so many people dying means that we have much less time to build characters to care about. If sarah survived and season 3 was more revolved around her and clem and aj. Instead of a whole new cast, it would've been way way better.
but nuh because they decided to kill everyone, we end up with a whole new cast who i personally liked. But how much better it could have been from a writing standpoint. We couldve also kept bonnie or mike, or both. Or couldve had them have some part in the whole kenny vs jane thing. Instead of them doing something completely out of character endangering a baby, very obviously just a thing to throw away the characters.
all of what kenny did, wasn't actually that bad. Mostly he was just overly aggressive, but directed at bad people. Jane can be likeable, but by the end she does an absolutely awful thing. And she also threatens arvo.
So that makes the end choice, a lot less impactful when its deciding between kenny and this awful girl
@@artemisfowl1862 and even luke's death is super goofy, the right choice is to cover him. And bonnie goes over to help? That doesn't even make sense, the ice falling is the problem so how will making it heavier help lol. Like i enjoyed the game, but whenn you even think about it a little bit theres so much wasted potential and so much flaws
i felt so bad for sarah
it was difficult because we all knew she wasn’t going to last
Carlos is mostly to blame for how she acts.
I know Kenny disappeared last season , but this game would of made so much more sense to have kenny as the playable character, Afterall the writers force clementine to have sudden maturity to be the lead and someone the people depend on constantly when shes only 11 and is alone for the first time, They dont even hide how much they dumb down the background characters .Kenny on the otherhand would make more sense to be another parental/teacher figure to follow up as clementine be a lead in thr future games
seen people suggest a few other characters that couldve possibly been the playable ones this season, i think it could’ve been cool to have separate stories for kenny and clem
Season 2 was my fav RIP kenny he will not be forgotten.
I always feel like I have the most fun in S2 in my playthroughs
Huge W for loving season 2. I think it's sometimes overheated by a lot of people because of the ending
i think a lot of the hate comes from having to follow up a TREMENDOUS first season, so it was difficult to try and make something just as good
Akains and Magmacremes season 2 videos are my favorite videos about this season despite being polar opposites.
Kenny's last words were heartbreaking. I haven't cried this much since Lee's death. I'm not mad because it's your playthrough, but I couldn't shoot Kenny. That fight wouldn't have happened if it wasn't for Jane. She put Aj at risk to prove a point. I get Kenny was a loose canon, but he literally lost so much and was already at his breaking point, and thinking Aj was dead pushed him over the edge.
i think it was more the fact i couldn’t just let him kill jane, i was more hoping that if i shot it would just disable/shock him, rather than killing him. however thats far too hopeful when playing a walking dead game 😅
@ I understand that. I wish that would’ve happened but you’re right. The Walking Dead loves giving us tough decisions and making us cry.🥲
well i hope you enjoyed the video through the tears at least 😅
@b33d33 I loved the video. Your commentary on both seasons 1 and 2 is great.😄
that means a lot thanks! :)
GOLDEN CHAINSAW?! DEADMEAT MENTIONED?!🙀🙀
SOMEONE FINALLY GOT THE REFERENCE!!!1!1!!!!
Always thought the criticism of this season was nitpicky
The best part of zombie apocalypse movies/shows/games are the parts where you get to see those alive enjoy those short moments to enjoy life like it was, sitting around a fire chatting it up, eating, hell even going for a ride and sitting in the vehicle BSing.
absolutely!
Just finished your first season vid for the pleasent surprise of the 2nd vid. Loving your commentary!
massively appreciated, thats perfect timing :)
Bro your channel is already one of my favorites please keep going
thank you so much that means a lot to me :))
I mean I personally enjoyed season 3 more then two as I felt I could actually get attached to the cast we had without them dying not even a minute after meeting them 😂 but I’m so glad you loved season two I like it too outside of some issues I just enjoy season 3 more especially when I got through it myself (Javier my beloved)
season 2 is just the writers thinking dead good characters are "engaging" like wtf dude luke & pete was so chill above everyone else that has gone insane and psycho
i do agree that i wish more people stayed alive, but the same happened in the first season, except a few people
'cause it actually matters, but no, in season 2 you just have to let the game repeatedly spit in your face
58:12 low taper fade never dies
The cut gives him plot immunity
your videos are so fun! i hope you do the whole walking dead series and maybe some other telltale games ❤️ just subscribed !
i appreciate it a lot!
Oh! Another person who picked the Jane route. Let's hope you won't regret this going into S3
i fear ive already heard what happens 😅
Yes. Season two, for me was my favorite, i do have a bias in that but still, love it.
FINALLY A POSITIVE VIDEO ON SEASON TWO!!!!
Fantastic video! 💯 I Love Season 2 and I view it as an absolute Masterpiece. This video does an amazing job of illustrating why this game is awesome! 🔥To me, Season 1, Season 2, and The Final Season of Telltale's Walking Dead are all 10/10 Masterpieces.
thanks a lot! :)
Started replaying this whole series last week. Just finished S1 yesterday and started S2 today.
my favorite season! i was shocked to see that the common consensus is that people hate this season. like yeah, its miserable, but i LIKE it.
i agree! yes some characters die that we wouldve rather not die, but thats what makes it interesting!
finally somebody giving it its due i never realized season 2 was the most disliked of the series its my fav for me.
I always thought season 3 was the weakest of the bunch cause most the characters are just not very interesting in i felt like i had little to no connection to any of them other then Clem and Mariana for the most part and one of those only had like 2 mins of screen time lol
Almost every video I’ve seen about this game has been negative, so this is a nice change. I absolutely adore this season.
I wasn't big on Kenny in season 1, but that ending was so sad
it really was 😔
In my opinion season 1 and 2 are both masterpieces😌
this guy deserves more subscribers,keep up the good work❤
appreciate it a lot :)
I'm glad you see that season 2 was great sure it was slows in some parts but I love it.
The ending to season 2 made me upset :[ It's so sad that they make you choose who has to die at the end. Good vid tho
3:21 Bro forgot the script and then remembered he had to fall
AKAIN MENTION
I love season 2. it's definitely my favourite episode. I also chose jane and stayed with her in the end due to many things kenny did
Crysta being pregnant was hinted at in her time in Season 1. The vomiting and hesitation of drinking alcohol both were hints at the pregnancy.
Finally some positive things about season 2
I never understood how Carver found a walkie talkie on Luke
Seasons one and two's quality are only slightly off from one another, and then there's a gap between three and four.
While in the end I think 1 is the better overall season, I've always enjoyed 2 to a similar and sometimes greater degree than 1, but it just wouldn't work without 1 coming before 2, if that makes sense.
1 is the context to 2, and 2 builds upon it well.
im back for another video my man. You should remember me from the last walking dead video
EDIT: When i saw carver i more thought of Philip or Bryan Blake (The Govoner) instead of Negan
ayyy of course, hope you enjoy :)
@@b33d33 i indeed enjoyed it. But yea in the show Milton reveals how they lose the need to eat and that they starve like anything else does just really slowly. I hated Hershel's death in the show. Hershel saved Carl and basically the entire group. When he got bit I thought he would have died there. In the timeline from that to when he officially died i gained too much of a bond with him in that time and kinda wish he died from that bite. Philip or Bryan whatever his name is (why is he referred with 2 names? idk why) I honestly didn't want him to die either. Hes one of those villains that kills your favorite character but you still love. Like Negan. Glenn was my favorite character in the entire series and i love Negan except when he bashed my favorite characters face in
the reason i thought he was similar to negan, was the eye for an eye tooth for a tooth thing. when his henchman got taken out in the cabin, he immediately takes out walter. glad you enjoyed the video! :)
@@b33d33 he does remind of negan know. Hope you do more seasons. Cant wait for your reaction on the final season if you do it. (i hope you do i love these videos)
Even though I did the exact same ending my first playthrough. I'm pretty sure somebody told you that you should have went with Kenny. His endings are actually better
THANK YOU❤❤ I LOVED IT TO LIKE WHATTT😭 but some of the choices didn’t do anything… or didn’t matter
it was a great game! some of the choices didnt matter, but the storyline was still good enough for me :)
I’m one of those people who loves a depressing ass story, so I’ve always kinda loved how absolutely fucked this season was
Oh boy season 2 what a shame, this season was great however it has many many issues for starters everyone in the group Clem gets to know dies, everyone is a group of adults yet they always rely on Clem to get them out of tight situations, Group slanders Kenny like the bunch of losers they are, your decisions don't matter regardless of what you do it's the same exact outcome e.g. Taking/not taking pills from Arvo he will attack you regardless overall this season was a train wreck while Kenny and Carver are highlights for me everything else pales sadly and I do love this season but these are glaring issues for me and while this season is infinitely better than season 3 and I'm just saddened by all the wasted potential of Luke and Nick having significant parts to the story.
I enjoyed this season, as well.
I think a lot of people who complain about none of the choices mattering here just... forgot that's how season 1 worked, as well? Telltale games in general don't change much despite your choices, that's kind of their 'thing' and it's been a problem with season 1 just as much as season 2, so I'm not sure why people beat season 2 down so hard for it when season 1 has the same issue.
yes exactly! season 1 was the same with the fact that: if a character is going to die, they will and you cant stop that. our decisions just change HOW they die
you should replay and look away for Kenny's ending
This was a great video to watch. I felt season 2 was strange, they relied on Clementine for everything and the way they loved Arvo was so strange. Jane hiding AJ in the freezing cold is just a massive red flag to me. I had fun playing it but the characters in this season were just not as good as season 1 for me.
i agree, the characters in season 1 feel more homely
havent watched the whole video yet, but holy shit a twdg video not saying twd2 game is the worst thing ever
ive definitely seen mixed reviews, but i really enjoyed this season
I thought we collectively agreed that season 3 was the worse and to always let Jane, Bonnie, and Gabe die
They always ignore all The good parts of this game
@@threadychimp5565 i like s3 too..
@@b33d33 ok i finally finished it and tbh ive watched a LOT of videos on all 4 of the games like this, and this has to be one of the more unique perspectives ive heard anyone have and i cant wait for ur review of the 3rd game if you decide to continue the series
They should have brought crista into season 4 instead of just making her disappear forever
yeah i read into seeing if she appeared again, found it so weird that shes just gone forever now
Say sike rn
i liked it man 😔
@@b33d33 no disrespect brother, I appreciate the time and dedication it took to make an hour+ long video and I’ll definitely end up listening to the whole thing at work, it’s in my watch later. TH-cam is the only thing that makes my job bearable lol.
@@b33d33 I’ve been a season 2 hater for a long time so I look forward to hearing a new perspective
I loved the series up till season 3 I honestly wished they would have focused on the choice based parts instead of making it feel like nothing matters
sorry i have to disagree that the storyline is better than season 1, but i still think it’s quite good
they both definitely have their moments which make them great, difficult to decide between them both
I have no goddamn clue why season 2 gets hated on it was so good and infinitely better than season 3
Season 2 is terrible, the entire season a bunch of grown adults are being taught how to survive by a 10 year old. And basically every decision you make doesnt matter cuz the people will just die anyways. Season 1 was the best season ever when i finished it i knew they wouldnt be able to make something that good again
i feel as though even in season 1, characters were always going to die, our decisions just changed when it was going to happen
Personally I think they killed characters off a bit too liberally this season. 1 second its a big group and then half of them are gone. I get its literally an apocalpse and people are going to die, but its hard to really get attached to them and care when they die.
like the random Keeny fellow at the end, womp womp, could barely remember his name tbh.
keeny is up there with one of the most forgettable characters fr 😞
@@b33d33 who??
Why does Reggie sound like an Indian Stereotype.
i wouldnt be surprised from a 2013 game 😅
I respect your opinion on this season being good for you but not for me but I don't hate it as much other people do and I couldn't kill kenny over personally I didn't like jane purposely risk aj life just prove a point to a man who already got anger issues and the game trying hard make him seem like a bad person in season 2 specially over what happen with avro who I hate cause he still shoot a little girl even if you was nice to him and defend him from kenny like sure kenny has flaws what characters in this game doesn't but regardless I know he has good heart like lee and in the end if you let him live like I did in my playthrough he give up going to wellington to make sure clem and aj was safe shows how much he care for the two no hate to you staying with jane through
Yes Yes Yes!! Face reveal soon
I used to love it, now I feel like S2 is just a disaster. If you wanna like it, fine. It’s your own opinion. But for me and others critically it’s a significant downgrade over S1. I feel like it’s getting the Star Wars prequels effect where people ignore issues of a previous game/ movie because it’s sequel movies/ games were worse. It’s flawed logic
i understand where youre coming from, but in reality, the first season was that good that i feel its almost impossible to make something that doesnt seem like a downgrade. i agree its definitely not as good, but i reckon its still a great game :)
@@b33d33 I get that. It’s just for me there was too many cooks in the kitchen and a lot of characters or storylines felt half done. Like how past episode 2 a lot of the cabin survivors effectively become background characters, where that didn’t feel quite as obvious in S1.
I honestly think that Sarah is less of a reflection of what clem could've been, and more of what Lee would've done, if chuck hadn't of said what he did.
I also like to think of it less as incapable adults and more of adults who don't care about Clementine. The only 2 people who mention clementine is a child/actually help or go with her are Carlos and Luke. I believe they're the only 2 who care any amount, aside from Pete. The rest of that group specifically simply don't give a crap about clem, or what happens to her. So she does all the dangerous and crappy stuff.
I think a different perspective is all that's needed to see a story as good❤ I love your videos❤
Editited to say I also don't believe anything about Sarah having issues. She was what, 11/12 when the apocalypse started? Young enough for people to want to protect her. She looks young now. I think she was overly shielded /before/ the end of the world, and everything falling apart simply sent Sarah to a state of panic limbo. Carlos dying is what flung her back to reality.
really interesting thoughts on the game :) thanks a lot for watching!
True but it was confirmed Sarah has some disorder
@@kingofgrim4761 that ruins it for me. Not because I have anything against disorders, but I preferred the way they did Ben. There doesn't always have to be a reason or a notion of sympathy for a character to be well developed. I believe Sarah's arc would've been better if we'd have seen more independent actions and less of her obeying Carlos. I wished you could've helped her rebel and come out of her shell :(
@ the fact they have a disorder shouldn’t really change how you feel about the character. It’s not about the sympathy. It’s both inclusion and makes sense given her character/personality.
Can you please play the walking dead Destinies 🙏🏻
i’ll give it a look :)
@@b33d33 think you and can you please give it five stars I’m trying to get them to make more seasons
No no no! This season had terrible writing all the way through. It was a bi-product of the old writers killing off Lee too soon. Killing off characters left and right is realistic? Then what’s up with the constant rendezvous with the season 1 cast? First Omid and Christa then Kenny after all that distance that was made between them over the span of two years?
Carver, this so called survivalist holds over 10 people up at gunpoint with a couple who are armed, while not having the gun pointed at them either. Carver literally turns away from them to shoot Clementine yet no one, not even Kenny intervenes.
Everyone starts running out of the herd of zombies while screaming at the top of their lungs and only the red shirts get killed off? Like how is Bonnie, Mike and Kenny not getting absolutely demolished by the walkers around them with all the noise they’re constantly making?
Characters only die when the plot says so. Thats why certain characters die and others continue on to make things worse for the sake of the plot. Like Bonnie getting Luke killed. Bonnie was basically the embodiment of this terrible writing. God both her and Mike should’ve died long ago if this story was actually realistic. Same with Nick before the group met with Kenny’s group.
You seriously need to turn your brain off for this season for it to be remotely realistic.
i personally thought it was a good mix of realism but also creating enough shock to make the story entertaining. if the game only consisted of people who knew exactly what they were doing and never got fooled or caught off guard, it mightve made for quite the boring game 😅
@ If you don’t care about well written stories then what right do you have to call this one a masterpiece? This season was the spark that burnt down TellTale.
@@MATAX5its just a video title, i enjoyed playing the game a lot, you dont have to agree with me :) it’s interesting to hear other people’s opinions
I could go on and on about how fucking useless the characters were in this season. The only two I liked were Pete and Luke (Even though he said and did some stupid stuff, and was kind of a hoe, I would take him over any of the others). Nick was a Ben 2.0, Alvin did fuck all until the writers made him do so, Carlos clearly got his degree in the back of an alleyway, Rebecca is just an incubator, Bonnie is one of the biggest pick mes in gaming history, If Mike disappeared randomly I don’t think the story would change at all, Kenny is Kenny, and Jane is a mess of poorly constructed writing
That’s with every game lol ppl only die when the plot says so even s1 does this you just hate s2 for no reason lol give actual good points
Oh man. I think objectively S2 is the worst season telltale did. So I gotta disagree here.
i honestly think it was great, episode 4/5 let it down a bit though
Imo , this season sucked
Watch akain's video about it
i did, but i thought the game deserved some positivity, because really it isnt that bad :)
Shooting Kenny was the best option in my opinion narratively. Set the mood that the whole season was building up to, that unhinged Kenny being put down before he became another Carver.
For me, I'm not a Kenny hater more so a Kenny fan hater. The fact I often get accused of siding with Jane for daring to not side with Kenny is utterly ridiculous. Jane doesn't know how to deal with people, meanwhile Kenny was a ticking time bomb.
i agree, realistically people would have said the ending was terrible if it was only possible that jane died. it makes for a far more emotional end to the season
No
He never became another Carver, nor was there an actual reason to believe that would happen; other than falling for the gaslighting by the other characters.