The Tugs Series Timeline

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  • @capmodesty
    @capmodesty 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    That order makes perfect sense, something not mentioned but also working with this order is Johnny cuba's arrival into port in high winds and hiding in "the old docks that hadn't been used for years". I always presumed these old docks were those being demolished and redeveloped in Warrior

  • @ieuanbriers
    @ieuanbriers 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    II have a small clue to put in, if I may, which I think you have missed. In the episode ‘Munitions’, Captain Starr orders Sunshine to “Go to the Canal, pick up Mighty Moe, they finished the work on the bridge, take him home.” This is an indication of the railway bridge destroyed by the Z-stacks steel rig in the episode ‘High Tide’, this can also be tied in when Captain Starr says to Big Mac, “thanks for winning us the Steel Contract.” Meaning that the Starr Tugs beat the Z-stacks for the steel contract. The steel contract they were going for in 'High Tide'. So ‘Munitions’ come after ‘High Tide’.
    Happy Tugs day.

    • @henrytheriverengine8234
      @henrytheriverengine8234 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hard to see what a short crane like Mighty Mo could do to fix that tall bridge, but yeah that's probably correct

    • @the4tierbridge
      @the4tierbridge 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@henrytheriverengine8234 Clearing sunken wreckage.

    • @pizzaplanettruck9761
      @pizzaplanettruck9761 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Directly after High Tide. So this order can't be it. Plus, there's also a scene in the 20 minute cut of Quarantine showing Top Hat and Warrior with the burnt-out Kraka-Toa.

  • @engineerskalinera
    @engineerskalinera 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There's a prominent fan theory that the show actually takes place in the 1930, possibly over the span of several years with Sunshine taking place in 1929 before the stock market crash. There is visual evidence for this (1930s cars, mafia business, all the Navy stuff, the amount of abandoned docks and buildings, the Vienna/Mauritania being in her white livery, etc.), but this does make some other events not fit, like Grampus' decommissioning being moved way forward in time. But it's an interesting thing to think about.
    It's sad that the 20 minute cuts got cut because a lot of good continuity and story was lost.

  • @exempligratia101
    @exempligratia101 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    This is a job well done. For what it’s worth, what we got with one series of Tugs is just as ambitious for the cinematography, action, story and voice acting in the series and a lovely counterpoint to the second series of Thomas, hence the similar camera techniques.

  • @yi_olde_fashioned
    @yi_olde_fashioned 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    A TUGS episode referencing Prohibition would be insane

    • @thomasthesmallengine7550
      @thomasthesmallengine7550  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That would be crazy. LOL

    • @agimackenzie2361
      @agimackenzie2361 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I thought Johnny Cuba smuggled alcohol

    • @SodorTrain1225
      @SodorTrain1225 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@thomasthesmallengine7550 Definitely.

    • @leonczolgosz9011
      @leonczolgosz9011 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I thought the Wreck buoy from Jinxed was a reference due to the creators making a "hungover" look on it's face.

  • @22Tesla
    @22Tesla 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Great timeline! And it keeps another thread from High Tides. It's there that Top Hat gains respect for Lord Stinker, the garbage barge and we see in Warrior that he doesn't seem to mind being assigned him when he suggests that the garbage barge can help push Izzy back up.

  • @pizzaplanettruck9761
    @pizzaplanettruck9761 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My order:
    1. Sunshine (the pilot)
    2. Pirate (Pirate was paired up with Sunshine for VHS & the Diesel tug was a wooden frame for these two, then become the red "oxide" hull)
    3. Trapped
    4. Jinxed
    5. High Tide
    6. Munitions (Bluenose is more prominent here than Regatta, plus we learn more about him here)
    7. Quarantine (a behind the scenes image shows Top Hat and Warrior with the Kraka-Toa, all burnt up from the fire in Munitions)
    8. Regatta (Grampus joins the Star Fleet, something never acknowledged again, Diesel Tug's engine is at Lucky's Yard so the hull is complete)
    9. Warrior (Quaratine in June, Regatta in July, Warrior in August)
    10. High Winds
    11. Ghosts
    12. Bigg Freeze
    13. Up River

    • @jackjackbt
      @jackjackbt 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I agree with this timeline. I like how you used the diesel tug to help with it since it makes no sense if it were to completely change its progress over the episodes. One problem however is the scene with boomer in either up river or bigg freeze but I just think it may be stock footage or something

    • @pizzaplanettruck9761
      @pizzaplanettruck9761 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @jackjackbt
      Thanks! I initially had Bigg Freeze and Up River between Trapped and Jinxed for that reason and to give an introduction to Puffa, but then I learnt about how Trapped and Up River replaced two cancelled episodes.

    • @pizzaplanettruck9761
      @pizzaplanettruck9761 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@jackjackbt
      What do you think of Munitions coming before Regatta?

    • @jackjackbt
      @jackjackbt 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@pizzaplanettruck9761 I think it gives bluenose a proper introduction. But there is the problem where I think that the diesel hull is more completed in munitions than in regatta with regatta having it covered in tarps. But I guess there could be a reason for that.
      Edit: I forgot about the engine with the diesel tug thing. But it could be off screen in munitions or inside the hull. Idk I’ll have to rewatch it

    • @pizzaplanettruck9761
      @pizzaplanettruck9761 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@jackjackbt
      I also think Captain Star bought Grampus for saving Ten Cents in Munitions.

  • @RichDXtreme247
    @RichDXtreme247 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hmm….while this timeline placement seems plausible, but from the TUGS Iceberg explained by EN2, at the end, mentions about the navy as a whole and how they relate to Munitions and their presence in Bigg City.
    There was also a book story mentioning of a German UBoat sneaking around the harbor.
    They were preparing for WW2.
    The whole setting has little tidbits of models and hints of vehicles and areas that are abandoned and unused for YEARS.
    They are in the 1930’s, The Great Depression. Mentioning the 1920’s is a front to have producers tricked into letting a 1930’s story on air.
    Hell, there were hints of a diesel tug secretly being built while the others don’t notice and Bigg Freeze was suppose to be the season finale to have the steam tugs have a chance against the Diesel Tug cause they are unreliable in cold weather.

    • @RichDXtreme247
      @RichDXtreme247 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@thomasthesmallengine7550 You’d probably found this a little irritating huh? Seeing this information in your comment section? Sorry tho. It’s just….you know. Mind blowing information. People couldn’t help it.

    • @thomasthesmallengine7550
      @thomasthesmallengine7550  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@RichDXtreme247 Yeah, you saw right through me. Sorry for my fairly rude reply. I will have to check that iceberg video out sometime.

    • @RichDXtreme247
      @RichDXtreme247 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@thomasthesmallengine7550 Ngl, it’s pretty interesting and thought provoking for the future of TUGS as a show if it wasn’t cancelled. You should give it a watch, man. It can get a little repetitive in some parts from similar information popping up though at least in my view.

    • @militarytankstudios9497
      @militarytankstudios9497 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      maybe those books that have references to the great depression and ww2 might have been scripts that would have taken place later in the series

  • @Reading3412Studios
    @Reading3412Studios 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You are a mad Lad for doing this.
    Also probably insane for spending so much time

  • @nwrfilms2008
    @nwrfilms2008 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Great video and no One has done this so You did great

  • @tugboatanni8594
    @tugboatanni8594 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Lovely video and analysis. I’m impressed with the decisions made in the timeline. I haven’t checked when writing this but have you checked anything on Twitter relating to TUGS research? The is a goldmine there of development info.
    Also TUGS Day is the best proposal I’ve heard.

  • @chesapeakedproductions3009
    @chesapeakedproductions3009 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I honestly prefer High Tide before Munitions, as Munitions 20 clearly references the previous events of High Tide (the repairing of a railway bridge and a steel contract), and Quarantine after Munitions 20 as a previously neve-before-seen BTS photo of Quarantine shows Top Hat and Warrior towing a scorched Krakatoa and a faceless Johnny Cuba implies it was filmed production wise after Munitions, but that's what I like to stick based on only TVS canonical events

  • @zedstrains3460
    @zedstrains3460 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Amazing video, this stuff is so interesting to me for some reason lol. In Bigg Freeze, I believe you can see the destroyed factory from the end of Up River in the water's reflection, so I would swap those two around in the timeline. The original 20 minute long unedited versions of the episodes would be great to completely explain all the chronology.

  • @robnewman6101
    @robnewman6101 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow. Interesting.

  • @crimsonrift4089
    @crimsonrift4089 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I going to watch the tugs series in this order now

  • @redheadgamer1289
    @redheadgamer1289 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As someone who has never seen TUGS this wants me to watch it thank you

  • @westinbridges7321
    @westinbridges7321 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello Thomas. I like the timeline but I have my own. There are some dates I estimated and some don't match but here it is.
    Sunshine: February 26, 1920
    Jinxed: April 13, 1920
    Pirate: Late April/Early May 1920
    Trapped: June 1920
    Regatta: July 4, 1920
    Warrior: Mid/Late July 1920
    High Tide: August 9, 1920
    Munitions: August 26, 1920
    Quarantine: September 26, 1920
    Ghosts: Late October-Early November 1920
    High Winds: November 13, 1920
    Bigg Freeze: December 24, 1920
    Up River: March 17, 1921

  • @parkerproductions4546
    @parkerproductions4546 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Interesting video. Nice to see something like this.

    • @thomasthesmallengine7550
      @thomasthesmallengine7550  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you

    • @ketelieappolon3617
      @ketelieappolon3617 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thomasthesmallengine7550 My order is
      Sunshine feburary 26 1921
      Pirates feburary 27 1921 I thought it would be funny if this happened a day after sunshine joins the fleet
      Jinxed: April 17 1921 to April 23 1921 random date
      Trapped: May 11 1921 random date
      Regatta: July 4 1921: you already know why
      Warrior: July 12 random date
      High tide: July 30: My grandmother birthday
      Munitions: August 7 1921 random date
      Quarantine: August 22: Random date
      High winds: November 6: my birthday
      Ghost: November 26: Random date
      Upriver: December 22: near Christmas
      Bigg freeze: December 24: Christmas eve

  • @Staniele
    @Staniele 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Actually SS Vienna is based off of German line are called kizer willhelm de grosse at least I think that’s how you spell it although I think the Mauritania is a much better guess because Kaiser sank in ww1 because she was scuttled a.k.a. set a light on purpose

  • @guilhermerossi807
    @guilhermerossi807 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great job, you are very dedicated 🛥

  • @AssaultWolf
    @AssaultWolf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like the fact that Quarantine is in 1921 and we are still some kind of quarantine 100 years later. haha

  • @frostlord1246
    @frostlord1246 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    IMO, Quarantine has to come after munitions. This is because there's a deleted scene in that epsiode that involves Top Hat and Warrior towing away the wreckage of Kraka-Toa (the ship that was destroyed in munitions) Other than that though, I think this is a solid theory that could make sense

  • @dustin_4501
    @dustin_4501 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'am the unique that notes the biggest of the anachronistic of the show Puffa was based after the DRG Class 89.0 and the first members of the class roll out of the factory in 1927, for sure they didn't know that or Puffa would not be based after said engine class. Also curious that High Tide events get mention in Munitions even High Tide happen before the latter (but was broadcast after) and the fact the this became irrelevant if you only watch the TV VERSION since they cut that scene out, also we could assume that Porter did work in Bigg City Port (Taking the fact Bigg City Port is New York counter part in this universe and the H. K. Porter, Inc 0-6-0ST were use on the docks of NY). And work together with Puffa and The Goods Engine and also since Salty is a BR Class 07 number 2991 built in 1962 and seems that Salty works in Sodor for a while Porter maybe came to Sodor in the late 1960's or the 1970's.

  • @shaneanders9607
    @shaneanders9607 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I personally spent a while trying to sort out a timeline; based around seasonal settings, character introductions & the tone of certain episodes. Ignoring scenes we never got to see, the best I could come up with was:
    Sunshine
    Trapped (Introduction of Billy & Little Ditcher)
    High Winds (Introduction of Scuttlebutt Pete & Princess Alice enters port)
    Regatta (Introduction of Lillie, Grampus, Bluenose & Princess Alice hosts the regatta)
    Quarantine (set during the summer, like Regatta)
    Warrior (Warrior getting a job other than garbage for once [addressed during the first scene])
    Ghosts (winter starts)
    Bigg Freeze (peak of winter)
    Up River (winter begins to end, introduction of Puffa & Boomer is seen at work)
    Pirate (no real fixed spot for this after Regatta, the "new respect for Warrior" IMO wouldn't linger for characters like Top Hat)
    High Tide (events from this directly tie into Munitions)
    Munitions (hijinks ensue)
    Jinxed (the munitions company who were established prior appear)

  • @henrytheriverengine8234
    @henrytheriverengine8234 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My theory is that Munitions was originally after all the other episodes featuring Big Mickey in episode order, but they changed it so he appears afterwards so the kids see him after he falls and didn't think he died.

  • @SodorTrain1225
    @SodorTrain1225 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Idea: Maybe it would take a while for the Salvage Fleet to lifts Big Mickey's corpse out of the water, and his essence floats to Sodor, and he tells the Fat Controller in his sleep to retrieve his old body. Brendam Docks needs a new crane, and the Fat Controller finds Big Mickey's body, but before it is taken to Sodor, O.J. "sees" Snatcher.
    2024 Edit: I tried to take TATMR as canon, but it isn’t, so this sort of thing obviously wouldn't happen.

  • @CrazyGamer-xd6tm
    @CrazyGamer-xd6tm 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Quarantine has a deleted scene where the tugs are taking away the burnt krackatoa

  • @ukaszwalczak1154
    @ukaszwalczak1154 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well uh, tiny thing. First, the Empress of Britain actually was operated by the Canadian Pacific Steamship company, and sailed from Canada, to the UK. It's more likely the Princess Alice is, either the WSL's Homeric, or one of the 2 funnel liners from Red star line. Oh, and Mauretania is pronounced "Maure-tay-nia" and Imperator "Imp-eh-rah-ter", don't ask me why, i didn't name the ship-

  • @alfimate3712
    @alfimate3712 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The snatcher fact was interesting

  • @hugothomas1199
    @hugothomas1199 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So all of them are 100 years old?

  • @julienmiller4180
    @julienmiller4180 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great information, but I'd say that the Duchess is more like the RMS Olympic, but still, great content

    • @agimackenzie2361
      @agimackenzie2361 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That has 4 chimneys and duchess has 3

  • @seffentine5679
    @seffentine5679 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Dat snatcher face is pretty creepy

    • @henrytheriverengine8234
      @henrytheriverengine8234 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      And the idea of Big Mickey coming back as an evil ghost and, judging by the name Snatcher, trying to snatch OJ!

  • @Newlsop
    @Newlsop 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thomasthesmallengine:”mauritawnya”
    Me: *angry ocean liner fan noises*

  • @RickVG02
    @RickVG02 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had no idea about the Big Mickey ghost thing

  • @JTizzle12
    @JTizzle12 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome man!

  • @tomaszmanthey3031
    @tomaszmanthey3031 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    0:46 don't worry i've got this you can sit back and let ME do that timeline

  • @XYZ_is_taken
    @XYZ_is_taken 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I found another clue to the timeline
    - the factory from Up River
    The factory was destroyed in Up River, then in Bigg Freeze when Ten Cents is talking to OJ we can see the demolished factory behind him. Therefore Bigg Freeze and Up River should be swapped.
    So currently the timeline should be
    -Sunshine
    -Pirate
    -Trapped
    -Regatta
    -High Tide
    -Quarantine
    -Up River
    - Bigg Freeze
    -Jinxed
    -High Winds
    -Warrior
    -Munitions
    -Ghosts
    If I find any other clues that point to a different order I will update this comment with the clues and explanations

    • @pizzaplanettruck9761
      @pizzaplanettruck9761 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bigg Freeze is first. The opening to Up River mentions Bigg Freeze. "It had been a hard winter, but the worst of it was over. Bigg City's frozen waterways and keysides were beginning to thaw." This refers to how the port was frozen in Bigg Freeze.

  • @militarytankstudios9497
    @militarytankstudios9497 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So season 2 was gonna take place in 1923 and 1924 EH?

    • @thomasthesmallengine7550
      @thomasthesmallengine7550  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe?

    • @militarytankstudios9497
      @militarytankstudios9497 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@thomasthesmallengine7550 sooo.... you just make the official timeline that is kinda correct

    • @seardadsdasd
      @seardadsdasd 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@militarytankstudios9497 Maybe TUGS would have ended at the end of WW2 if a big time gap occoured in another season that we dont know

  • @joshbreck3489
    @joshbreck3489 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Quarantine is before trapped because Nantucket is the tramper

  • @betamax6080
    @betamax6080 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    26th february is my birthday

  • @masontrudgeon8085
    @masontrudgeon8085 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    if this is 1920's then why is so much abandoned

  • @blasterblaster1221
    @blasterblaster1221 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I only have one problem with this timeline....in high tide big Mac and warrior are fighting for the steel contract with the Zeds....in munitions captain star thanks big Mac for winning the contract....that means that munitions should be one or two episodes after high tide, yet here they are a year apart

    • @thomasthesmallengine7550
      @thomasthesmallengine7550  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Maybe, but the events of High Tide don't involve Big Mac specifically winning the contract.

    • @blasterblaster1221
      @blasterblaster1221 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thomasthesmallengine7550 true, but it's worth noting since the captain wouldn't have mentioned it if it hadn't happened recently

    • @pizzaplanettruck9761
      @pizzaplanettruck9761 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thomasthesmallengine7550
      Sunshine is also sent to pick up Mighty Mo because they finished cleaning up the railway bridge. Plus, High Tide does mention the Stars won in Captain Star's ending message.

  • @mikbyr
    @mikbyr 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    7:40 me.
    YOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

  • @TheMemeTankEngine
    @TheMemeTankEngine 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    @The Unlucky Tug

  • @alexthelnerj72
    @alexthelnerj72 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    There is the season 2 of tugs and it is call salty Lighthouse

    • @hawanatukabba317
      @hawanatukabba317 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      meh thats not really canon

    • @seardadsdasd
      @seardadsdasd 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fix your grammar its "Theres a season 2 of tugs and its called Salty's Lighthouse" also those are just the season one episodes with many changes

  • @assateagueislandalliance4420
    @assateagueislandalliance4420 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Um pirate takes place after jinxed because a deleted scene from jinxed shows izy Gomez crashing into a floating warehouse similar to the one from pirate + in big freeze the destroyed munishons factory from up river in a Walter refashion

  • @MrBean66666
    @MrBean66666 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have my own order for tugs episodes here is my order
    Sunshine
    Reggata
    High tide
    Trapped
    Up river
    Pirate
    Jinxed
    Warrior
    Munitions
    Quarantine
    High winds
    Ghosts
    Bigg freeze

    • @sirwelcome
      @sirwelcome 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Please explain this order

    • @MrBean66666
      @MrBean66666 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well most of the points from this vid will count for this but here are some of mine
      In behind the scenes of Quarantine is an image of a burnt kraka-toa and warrior and top hat and because munitions had kraka-toa burnt it would be likely that Quarantined would have taken place after munitions
      Another one is that the factory blown up in up river. Then in pirate there is a shed that was worn out so what would it have been before?
      Also the seasons go
      Summer
      Summer
      Summer
      Autumn
      Winter
      Spring
      Spring
      Summer
      Summer
      Summer
      Autumn
      Autumn
      Winter
      Those are the key most important reasons

    • @sirwelcome
      @sirwelcome 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MrBean66666 Pretty sure Tugs takes place over one year

  • @riverasumen7486
    @riverasumen7486 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    time line:
    start--end

  • @annanowak2868
    @annanowak2868 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Season 2 bruh