I'm 66 and was introduced to Mahler by a friend and mentor of music appreciation when I was around 15, 16 or so. I was sitting in a store recently where a retired person who I knew, sort of, for 30 years and he said "I just can't believe the beauty of Mahler's music". I had no idea anybody in my small town even listened to Mahler, never mind "get it". There is Bach, Beethoven and Mahler.. and I don't mean to slight Brahms one bit. Brahms will always be a true A+++ (my highest rating, like I have the right?). But I love Mahler in a deeply personal way. I don't know how else to put it. Heck, I'm an Irish/English Canadian and I get up and dance when he goes Klezmer.
Extremely interesting interview. Thanks a million dear Marina for such a great responses to your interviewer.Constituye un tesoro escuchar a la nieta de Mahler.
Das Lied Von Der Erde was and is the piece that most profoundly impacted me as a 22 year old in 1990. It remains my all time favourite piece and was so far beyond what was being written in the early 20th century. Mahler was a visionary.
“Silence is as if one were suspended and music is the movement”. That is brilliant. Maybe, someone thought of this analogy centuries ago and that is why we have “movements” in symphonies and sonatas?
"You don't need any education. You just need to listen." So true. But also, performances need to reprioritize emotions and drama over perfectionism. People are listening to classical in greater numbers than any time in history. Yet the industry is facing a crisis of relevance. I would argue that that is because people are listening to performances online rather than live and that the live performances don't live up to the recordings. First of all because perfection in a concert is much more difficult than in a recording studio with a million splices. And two, because after 100 years of modernism, objectivity, and the transparent performer, classical music performances have lost their emotional engagement with audiences by trying to play the core romantic and classical canon too literally.
Wonderful interview, insightful, and the idea of celebrating GM's music in larger venues is quite appealing. Of course, I write this during the pandemic, and that idea is not feasible now, but I hope in the future, it becomes a reality. I personally believe that people who really love music will gravitate towards classical at some point in their life, and within classical music, the music of GM has among the most satisfying of musical languages and construction. We know that GM's music goes beyond just melody - in his music we learn that music speaks to each of us in its own ways, whether emotional, intellectual, awe-inspiring, etc to a very high degree. For some people who listen to Mahler carefully, they have discovered that Mahler's music is a kind of "a joy supreme' if I may quote Coltrane. It makes me happy to be alive that I am first able to comprehend GM's musical language and also get to know him through his music and affirm the many beliefs I personally have which his music helps me to embrace.
Agree - I've been watching performances of some of these great symhonies lately on Mezzo (a favourite tv network of mine), some in concerts that were filmed over these last few months (including rhe 3rd from Zürich under Paavo Järvi, and the 8th from München under Gergiev), and some that date back a few years. All of them played to a full audience. His music really catches listeners by the breath and holds their attention, I hope we will see more of these concerts and gatherings in the near future.
I really think much of Mahler's music was written for future generations, that would have gone through world wars, holocausts, grotesque cruelties on an epic scale. I'm not sure if he sensed this, but I think the evidence is in his music. He also addressed much that was joyful; or meditative; or other positive but difficult-to-identify emotions.
Mahler is not an experience for the masses. It's very intimate dairy. You should experience it alone in a room listening with a good pair of studio monitors and laying on a bed lights dimed. If you have marijuana it's even better. Another way is to go to mountains or on an island and listen to it during the down or in the mountains looking at rivers and trees. If played live than it should be for a dozen of friends and just you.
The notion of altering Mahler's music to suit a larger, less musically well educated audience is just wrong, in my opinion. Imagine altering Shakespeare's language so it would be heard at a rock festival. Mahler's music is unalterable. What's needed is to educate our kids to listen to classical music. And that's fairly easily accomplished. I like the idea of a symposium on "Das Lied von der Erde."
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I find this woman unusually insightful and human. A worthy carrier of her grandfather’s legacy.
We’re so fortunate to hear from the granddaughter of a giant of the musical world, Gustav Mahler. A great interview!
I'm 66 and was introduced to Mahler by a friend and mentor of music appreciation when I was around 15, 16 or so. I was sitting in a store recently where a retired person who I knew, sort of, for 30 years and he said "I just can't believe the beauty of Mahler's music". I had no idea anybody in my small town even listened to Mahler, never mind "get it". There is Bach, Beethoven and Mahler.. and I don't mean to slight Brahms one bit. Brahms will always be a true A+++ (my highest rating, like I have the right?). But I love Mahler in a deeply personal way. I don't know how else to put it. Heck, I'm an Irish/English Canadian and I get up and dance when he goes Klezmer.
Extremely interesting interview. Thanks a million dear Marina for such a great responses to your interviewer.Constituye un tesoro escuchar a la nieta de Mahler.
Absolutely brilliant interview, thank you! Marina is a very intelligent and sagacious woman and her answers were fascinating and on point.
Thank you so much! Yes she is indeed!
She is now 81 and her father was the conductor Anatole Fistoulari.
I am 100 years younger than Gustav Mahler.
Das Lied Von Der Erde was and is the piece that most profoundly impacted me as a 22 year old in 1990. It remains my all time favourite piece and was so far beyond what was being written in the early 20th century. Mahler was a visionary.
Mahler 3 last movement moved me to tears - it was my first really strong live concert musical experience - I can't explain why I weeped but I did.
“Silence is as if one were suspended and music is the movement”. That is brilliant.
Maybe, someone thought of this analogy centuries ago and that is why we have “movements” in symphonies and sonatas?
"You don't need any education. You just need to listen." So true. But also, performances need to reprioritize emotions and drama over perfectionism. People are listening to classical in greater numbers than any time in history. Yet the industry is facing a crisis of relevance. I would argue that that is because people are listening to performances online rather than live and that the live performances don't live up to the recordings. First of all because perfection in a concert is much more difficult than in a recording studio with a million splices. And two, because after 100 years of modernism, objectivity, and the transparent performer, classical music performances have lost their emotional engagement with audiences by trying to play the core romantic and classical canon too literally.
Amazing! This is the most interesting interview about music meaning I have ever heard. Thank you so much!
Encantadora Dama... Sus respuestas tenían la dulce frescura de la esperanza de la música...
Wonderful interview, insightful, and the idea of celebrating GM's music in larger venues is quite appealing. Of course, I write this during the pandemic, and that idea is not feasible now, but I hope in the future, it becomes a reality. I personally believe that people who really love music will gravitate towards classical at some point in their life, and within classical music, the music of GM has among the most satisfying of musical languages and construction. We know that GM's music goes beyond just melody - in his music we learn that music speaks to each of us in its own ways, whether emotional, intellectual, awe-inspiring, etc to a very high degree. For some people who listen to Mahler carefully, they have discovered that Mahler's music is a kind of "a joy supreme' if I may quote Coltrane. It makes me happy to be alive that I am first able to comprehend GM's musical language and also get to know him through his music and affirm the many beliefs I personally have which his music helps me to embrace.
Agree - I've been watching performances of some of these great symhonies lately on Mezzo (a favourite tv network of mine), some in concerts that were filmed over these last few months (including rhe 3rd from Zürich under Paavo Järvi, and the 8th from München under Gergiev), and some that date back a few years. All of them played to a full audience. His music really catches listeners by the breath and holds their attention, I hope we will see more of these concerts and gatherings in the near future.
What a great interview! Thank you so much for it. I hope you do more interviews like this.
Thanks! We certainly will….
Wonderful interview! I think she is absolutely right about the power of music! Thanks!!
Thank you🌟Looking forward "Mahler Month 2022"
Learn a lot from this wonderful interview. Thank you.
Wow vielen Dank😊✨❤️
Thank you! I hope you enjoyed!
Thank you for this
fascinating. I would love to meet Marina. That is Gustav's flesh and blood - and an intriguing person in her own right
why is she intriguing?
This was a gem to discover!
Love it , love it
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Well done!
Thank you! 🙏🏻
Muchas gracias!
Thank you for watching!
I really think much of Mahler's music was written for future generations, that would have gone through world wars, holocausts, grotesque cruelties on an epic scale. I'm not sure if he sensed this, but I think the evidence is in his music. He also addressed much that was joyful; or meditative; or other positive but difficult-to-identify emotions.
Esplendida entrevista.
i want to know what's Mahler's favorite ice cream flavor
Doesn't she sound like Anna, her mother?
Mahler is not an experience for the masses. It's very intimate dairy. You should experience it alone in a room listening with a good pair of studio monitors and laying on a bed lights dimed. If you have marijuana it's even better. Another way is to go to mountains or on an island and listen to it during the down or in the mountains looking at rivers and trees. If played live than it should be for a dozen of friends and just you.
So then what's the real problem of classical music? Really. I still want to know about that. 😂
The notion of altering Mahler's music to suit a larger, less musically well educated audience is just wrong, in my opinion. Imagine altering Shakespeare's language so it would be heard at a rock festival. Mahler's music is unalterable. What's needed is to educate our kids to listen to classical music. And that's fairly easily accomplished. I like the idea of a symposium on "Das Lied von der Erde."
She's wrong. Marches are fine. In most situations, war is not about right or wrong. It's more about necessity and circumstance.
classical and opera tickets are cheap compared to sports tickets. so stop this 'elitist' nonsense.
Most Curtis Institute recitals here in Philadelphia are absolutely free of charge!
@@PhilipDaniel That's nice, so are the recitals at Colburn School of Music here in Los Angeles. Disney Hall across the street often has rush tickets.