Im a 2200 chessplayer, i like also checkers , but i dont play it anymore , not cause i dont want , i love checkers and chess , but cause there is a lot of information about chess , i dont know why checkers has fallen behind in popularity , also if i play checkers , i must think like a computer, its very brain challenging, chess is als good brain game , but to calculate, its not that easy, you must known strategie, and most of the time , moves are made intuïtief, i hope checkers wil be great again, cause its a great game .
Im a 2100 chess player. I feel like while our games has similarities, mainly the board, for me the stronger competition means that there is more prestige in success. Another benefit of more competition is that if you live in a smaller town there will often be a chess club, but no checkers club, so its easier to join the community.
Variety is the spice of life. It's great that we humans came up with a ton of different board games to enjoy. Comparing them makes little sense, each of them highlights a different strategic skill. Just like you shouldn't 'compare' apples and pears just because both of them grow on trees. They are good in their own way.
One point that deserves to be emphasized in a future video is the importance and interest of the compulsory capture in checkers. For many people, this is an absurd rule that limits the player's strategic choices (it's hard to imagine chess with such a rule). And, of course, they have lost because of moves imposed by their opponents, which reinforces their conviction. It's counter-intuitive to think that this is one of the basic elements of checkers, whatever its variant. As a result, we end up with a lot of people playing the simplest version of the game (American), and without the obligatory catch! So it's hardly surprising that they regard checkers as a little game that has nothing to do with chess. However, it's only when you begin to master the art of sacrificing pieces to win more captures that you begin to perceive the richness of the game of checkers. (And if you switch to the international variant, it's even better...).
I just started playing chess and the main reason more people like me play chess is because of it's huge popularity and high resources available, I got into chess as GothamChess videos were on my feed and I never really have played checkers and don't kniw it's rules but it's nice that it has a decent community and maybe someday I will join the checkers community but for now, I feel like sticking to chess. Good video and hope you can become the GothamChess of checkers. Also, do you believe chess gms can be good at checkers faster than people like me who have 500/600 elo? And vice versa for checkers masters??
On behalf of the checkers community, feel invited! Thank you for your kind wishes, I also hope that the channel will reach many people. I know that chess GMs can improve faster in checkers than people outside the world of mind sports. But it will take them many months/years of training to reach a high level.
I think I can safely assume that draughts (in the Netherlands it's the 100 squares checkered board variation we play) is more difficult than chess for chess players and chess is more difficult than draughts for draughts players, and reasons draughts players have for that are probably different from the reasons for the chess players. It's definitely a fact that the entry step of draughts is easier to take and that the rules of the game are easier to be taught. I also think that it may be easier to get good at it if you're raised with it, so to speak. However, my vision on draughts is one from the perspective of someone who has been raised more with chess, and from that perspective, draughts will certainly be harder to be good at. One problem that probably hasn't been mentionex by anyone else in the comments, but which I may have, is the feeling of a lack of 'transparancy' a draughts position can give me, especially in the opening phase of the game, where a log of pieces are still on the board. This tranparancy thing may sound weird, but allthough all 20 pieces on your side have the same simple capabilities, it is exactly that what makes the roles and tasks of each of the pieces less obvious to me. Chess is harder to learn playing and probably much harder to strategically master, but the differences tbe pieces and their positions provide me with make a bit more sense to me in terms of their roles and tasks. A piece's abilities in chess make it easier for me to give that particular piece its own task. I'm convinced that you would have enough reasons to argue that each piece in draughts has its own task, very much depending on its position and surroundings, and you would be right, of course. But to me it's less obvious and therefor more difficult to deal with, allthough the much larger number of possible moves in chess will also make it more likely to make a decisive mistake. Chess is harder to play good, but it gives me more transparancy due to the pieces' differences in abilities. That doesn't mean that bigger local variations of chess, like the 36×36 square variant of shogi, would provide me with more of that transparancy I'm talking about. With 207 different types of pieces on the board, any player of chess would be lost in the chaos. But 6 different pieces make it much more doable. I hope you understand what I'm saying.
En lo personal me gustan mucho el ajedrez y las damas, sin embargo las damas requieren menos esfuerzo para jugar a un nivel decente, en cambio el ajedrez es como estar en la escuela, todos los días hay que entrenar y memorizar, esa fue una de mis razones para ir dejando de competir, incluso llegue a desarrollar trastornos de sueño por esto, en cambio las damas me han encantado llevo un año jugando y he logrado un muy buen nivel, en la escuela le he enseñado a muchos de mis amigos a jugar y les gusta, uno requiere una gran mente o un gran entrenamiento, aunque si me desanima el hecho de que en mi país no es nada popular, ni siquiera tienen federación, a pesar de eso a las damas les tengo mucho cariño, podría decir que incluso más que al ajedrez, aunque no se deberían comparar, son dos deportes muy divertidos que he disfrutado gratamente. Muy buen video.
Honestly, I enjoyed this video. But as a person who prefers chess to checkers, I want to put my input. So I agree that the low barrier to enter is better, its potential to be played by many, and the standing out are all true advantages. I also agree that chess and checkers shouldn't be compared as harshly as they are. But couldn't the lesser competitive competition be seen as a disadvantage. Continuing, while yes there probably are more checkers players than chess, using Google Play Store downloads to represent the popularity of what is primarily a website feels off to me. Anyhow, thanks for the great content.
Thanks for sharing your suggestions! Of course, winning titles can be interpreted differently. My narrative was about the fact that it is easier to succeed, which builds self-confidence, and it is easier to reap the sporting benefits - a place in the national team, playing in international tournaments, etc. As for the number of players, I used application numbers to make some people realize that so many people look for information on the Internet/want to play checkers, although such numbers are not visible at tournaments.
I Like Chess Because Of The Pieces, It Is Needed A Strategic Thinking And Logical Knowledge To Make Moves, While I Like Draughts Because Of Its Forces Captures, It Is Easy To Calculate And Make Traps For Your Opponent.
Moim zdaniem szachy znacznie przeważają i biją popularnością warcaby. Choćby dlatego, że jak już pisałem mają wszędzie te same zasady gry a warcabów jest zbyt wiele odmian. W szachy zasiadamy i po prostu gramy w każdym zakątku świata, a w warcaby trzeba najpierw ustalić zasady gry, wielkość szachownicy i może się okazać, że każdy gracz woli co innego. Szachy to też np. jeden z elementów rywalizacji Stanów Zjednoczonych z Rosjanami, gdzie Fischer potrafił skutecznie ogrywać rosyjskich arcymistrzów, a szachowa szkoła radziecka od zawsze uchodziła za najlepszą. Potem szachy bardzo rozpropagował słynny mecz Kasparowa z komputerem. Coś niesamowitego, że człowiek grał z maszyną i do tego wygrywał. Chyba między innymi dlatego zainteresowałem się tą grą. Warcaby raczej nie miały takiego przebicia. Mam wrażenie, że najlepszego szachistę świata Magnusa Carlsena każdy kojarzy, niezależnie czy gra w szachy czy nie. Tysiące artykułów w internecie o tym graczu wychwalających jego talent, Mozart szachów jak go nazwano. Natomiast o warcabach jakoś cicho. Jeśli sam nie zacznę szukać informacji o mistrzu świata w warcabach czy najlepszych zawodnikach to nic nie będę wiedział, bo te informacje nie są zbyt popularne. Nawet fakt, że w warcabach, przynajmniej kobiecych, mamy większe sukcesy niż w szachach też jakoś nie poprawia tej sytuacji choćby w naszym kraju. Natalia Sadowska dwukrotną mistrzynią świata, kto o tym słyszał, ja dowiedziałem się chyba kiedyś przypadkiem i już zdążyłem zapomnieć. Jakby Jan-Krzysztof Duda ograł Carlsena i został mistrzem świata wiedzieliby wszyscy i wszędzie by o tym pisano. Już o samym meczu byłoby bardzo głośno, niezależnie od wyniku.
I w pełni się zgadzam ze wszystkimi Twoimi argumentami. Mam tylko nadzieję, którą będę wspierał ciężką pracą, że warcaby zyskają na popularności i niektóre z opisywanych przez Ciebie kwestii się zmienią.
Wow, such a informative video, never knew checkers had so much theory in it, and as a chess player, checkers feels like a silly game you play with your friends kinda like Tic Tac Toe.
If someone ask me "if either chess or checker is more difficult " i would answer" well it's illogical to say that fish can climb up the mountain" isn't it!!!
"In checkers you have one"... is it a joke? Coups simples : Coups directs Coups de l’épicier Coups de la promenade Coups de trombone Coups de l’escargot Coups de girouette Coups de la navette Coups de mazette Coups Philippe Coups du tiroir Coups russes Coups de l’africain Collages Le coup de la trappe (1) Coups royaux (1) Coups de l’express Coups de longue vue Coups de talon Coups du chassé-croisé Coups du double deux Coups de double bis Coups de chevron Coups de tourniquet Coups Napoléon Coups renversés Coups normands Coups de clinquant Coups de ricochet Coups compliqués: Coups de la bombe (1) Coups de la bombe (2) Coups de l’éponge Coups de mazette double (A) Coups de mazette double (NA) Doubles trappes Coups de la trappe (3) Coup royal (3) Coup royal (4) Coups d’arrêt Coups de lunette Coups de l’assommoir Coups de l’escalier Coups turcs (1) Coups turcs (2) Coups suisses Coups de Jarnac (1) Coups de Jarnac (2) Coups du cheval Coups de la noria Coups de l’aiguille (ou aiguillage) Coups du caméléon Coups de fourchette Coups Springer Coups Bonnard Coups doubles (1) Coups doubles (2) Forcing (3) Forcing (5) Pièges (1) Pièges (2) Pièges (3) Combinaisons avec temps de repos: TR 1 + 1 (Lunette) TR 1 + 1 Prises - A TR 1+1 (Prises - B) Coups du triangle (1) Coups du triangle (2) TR 2 + 1 (flèche) TR 2 + 2 TR 3 + 1 Coups royaux (6A) Coups royaux (6B) TR 3 + 2 Coups de l’oeil de boeuf Envoi à dame et collage Coups trompeurs Fins de partie: Oppositions Coups de coulisse Coups de souricière Coups de crochet Coups flamands Coups de blocage Coups du fondeur de cloches Coups du trictrac (1) Coups des deux pôles Coups de l’enfermé (2) Coups de l’enfermé (3A) Coups de l’enfermé (3B) Pivot - Motif 1 Pivot - Motif 2 Pivot - Motif 3 Pivot - Motif 4 Pivot - Motif 5 Coups de barrage (A) Coups de barrage (B) Pivot - Motif 7 Pivot - Motif 8 Pivot - Motif 11 MAT - Motif 2 MAT - Motif 3 Mat - Motif 4 Mat - Motif 6 Mat 13 et/ou enfermé 6
As a chess player I love checkers it’s so fun and amazing! The only reason that it’s not considered on the level of chess is due to the lack of pieces, but I will never hate it.
People dont like simple rules game and go for complex but ended up being lower and come to simple rule game to restrain their motives and so on ... !!!😁😁😁
To me comparing chess and checkers is more like comparing American football to World football (soccer). Despite soccer's simpler rules (with less equipment and a lower barrier to entry), it remains the most widely played sports in the world. Complexity of a game has nothing to do with it's appeal to a wider audience. But Americans tend to find soccer more boring just like they do checkers. Yet both chess and checkers require creativity, and mental strategic thinking despite checkers having simpler rules. Another ridiculous argument I have seen chess enthusiast use to bash checkers is that checkers (the American version) is solved (by the computer) and therefore a waste of time to play. First, international draughts is still not solved, and even if all checker variations were solved, how does that take away from experiencing the beauty of the game. Humans still can't acquire enough knowledge to beat the best checker programs. And when it comes to chess, no human has ever crossed an ELO of 2900 and similarly, no human today has a chance against the best computer programs (like stockfish with an ELO of 3400+). So what difference does it make if chess is not yet solved? These programs will only continue to improve widening the gap against humans. So does that make chess a useless game to learn? I don't think so. The bottom line is that board games like checkers (draughts), chess, go, etc, should not be compared as to which is better but each in its own way helps us learn how to think strategically and purposely while hopefully letting us have some fun during that process, and for others - maybe even help make a living doing so. After all - beauty is in the eyes of the beholder.
You put it all very well! I discussed the solvery of checkers and the explanation of international draughts in another video on the channel: th-cam.com/video/q5ABFYGtoB0/w-d-xo.html
Checkers is just too bland and limiting. It predominantly relies on calculations. In chess concepts like peace dynamics synergy coordination and development simply have more depth to them.
I understand your arguments, but I find it hard to agree with them. Checkers has the same features, but it probably takes years of playing to fully understand them.
@@checkers_tv TLDR: piece dynamics synergy coordination and development are on a whole other level in chess. keeping in mind they exist and arent easy to grasp in checkers. ______ Look. I am not saying those concepts dont exist in checkers, they are just severely watered down. Mainly cuz of the simplicity of a singular piece movement it often boils down to calculating the most advantageous moves in a relatively deterministic way. This is the reason the game has been solved in 2007 while chess continuously creates puzzles the best engines get lost it, and even ones that only humans can solve. Chess simply has a much broader range of strategic synergistic concepts like evaluating piece value on their own on their position and on what other pieces they work well with. How different pieces exert different stresses on the position... There are levels to this is all.
@@checkers_tv I legit cant deal with yt commenting system anymore. I wrote a lengthy reply where i explained my stance on the matter in more detail and i find it was deleted by the algorithm. Im so done with this.
The main reason why Chess is thought to be better than Checkers is because it's more complicated. That's also why Baduk is considered to be better than Chess. At the end of the day play what you like.
I didn't say that, please listen carefully. I said that rules are simpler and winning titles is easier. Mastering the game itself is difficult as well.
By that logic, you must freaking love the game of taykyoku shogi - and being the only dude in the world to move his 400 pieces on damn 36×36 board because it's hard and complicated
@@checkers_tv I was talking more about the structure of the games on the surface, like chess has a hierarchy of pieces while in checkers they're all equal, chess is more objective while checkers more intuitive, etc etc. Even the names... But you're right, I should have said masculine and feminine.
@@checkers_tv This fact is interesting. In the world of chess there is a debate about why women do not play at the same level as men since physical strength is not required. No satisfactory answer has been found to this obvious fact. The best female player is in 115th place on the FIDE rating list and it seems that the same thing happens in the checkers.
@@guillermofranco5841 Natalia Sadowska, a two-time women's world drafts champion, said women are less willing to take risks, which makes it more difficult to win at the highest level, where accuracy alone is not enough. Moreover, men are task-oriented and can fully focus on the task at hand. Women's psyche doesn't work that way and they always have some off-the-wall things in the back of their minds.
I had a mental breakdown in chess class in summer school in 3rd grade. This is because my chess teacher told us that the yellow chess pieces were team lemonade and it was 102 degrees that day and I was super thirsty. And hearing the word lemonade that my me more thirsty and that made me cry and roll all over the floor and I only lasted 2 days in that class. I dont’t have any bias with chess however I am sticking with checkers for now
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Im a 2200 chessplayer, i like also checkers , but i dont play it anymore , not cause i dont want , i love checkers and chess , but cause there is a lot of information about chess , i dont know why checkers has fallen behind in popularity , also if i play checkers , i must think like a computer, its very brain challenging, chess is als good brain game , but to calculate, its not that easy, you must known strategie, and most of the time , moves are made intuïtief, i hope checkers wil be great again, cause its a great game .
Thank you for sharing that!
you should try chess & checkers crossover called "Altai Shatra" (there are some youtube videos, just enter the name in search box)
very true point
Im a 2100 chess player. I feel like while our games has similarities, mainly the board, for me the stronger competition means that there is more prestige in success. Another benefit of more competition is that if you live in a smaller town there will often be a chess club, but no checkers club, so its easier to join the community.
Yes, your arguments are absolutely true. Thank you for sharing that.
@@checkers_tv is frisian checkers solved?
Variety is the spice of life. It's great that we humans came up with a ton of different board games to enjoy. Comparing them makes little sense, each of them highlights a different strategic skill. Just like you shouldn't 'compare' apples and pears just because both of them grow on trees. They are good in their own way.
Beautifully said! 😍
Damian, well deserved title of the one of the biggest online creators in the field of Checkers. Really valuable content! 👏
Thank you so much! 😊
One point that deserves to be emphasized in a future video is the importance and interest of the compulsory capture in checkers. For many people, this is an absurd rule that limits the player's strategic choices (it's hard to imagine chess with such a rule).
And, of course, they have lost because of moves imposed by their opponents, which reinforces their conviction.
It's counter-intuitive to think that this is one of the basic elements of checkers, whatever its variant.
As a result, we end up with a lot of people playing the simplest version of the game (American), and without the obligatory catch!
So it's hardly surprising that they regard checkers as a little game that has nothing to do with chess.
However, it's only when you begin to master the art of sacrificing pieces to win more captures that you begin to perceive the richness of the game of checkers.
(And if you switch to the international variant, it's even better...).
Yes you are right. In this video I tried to cover aspects unrelated to the playing technique itself, but there will be time for those too :)
I just started playing chess and the main reason more people like me play chess is because of it's huge popularity and high resources available, I got into chess as GothamChess videos were on my feed and I never really have played checkers and don't kniw it's rules but it's nice that it has a decent community and maybe someday I will join the checkers community but for now, I feel like sticking to chess. Good video and hope you can become the GothamChess of checkers.
Also, do you believe chess gms can be good at checkers faster than people like me who have 500/600 elo? And vice versa for checkers masters??
On behalf of the checkers community, feel invited! Thank you for your kind wishes, I also hope that the channel will reach many people. I know that chess GMs can improve faster in checkers than people outside the world of mind sports. But it will take them many months/years of training to reach a high level.
@@checkers_tv nice, good to know!
I think I can safely assume that draughts (in the Netherlands it's the 100 squares checkered board variation we play) is more difficult than chess for chess players and chess is more difficult than draughts for draughts players, and reasons draughts players have for that are probably different from the reasons for the chess players.
It's definitely a fact that the entry step of draughts is easier to take and that the rules of the game are easier to be taught. I also think that it may be easier to get good at it if you're raised with it, so to speak. However, my vision on draughts is one from the perspective of someone who has been raised more with chess, and from that perspective, draughts will certainly be harder to be good at.
One problem that probably hasn't been mentionex by anyone else in the comments, but which I may have, is the feeling of a lack of 'transparancy' a draughts position can give me, especially in the opening phase of the game, where a log of pieces are still on the board. This tranparancy thing may sound weird, but allthough all 20 pieces on your side have the same simple capabilities, it is exactly that what makes the roles and tasks of each of the pieces less obvious to me. Chess is harder to learn playing and probably much harder to strategically master, but the differences tbe pieces and their positions provide me with make a bit more sense to me in terms of their roles and tasks. A piece's abilities in chess make it easier for me to give that particular piece its own task. I'm convinced that you would have enough reasons to argue that each piece in draughts has its own task, very much depending on its position and surroundings, and you would be right, of course. But to me it's less obvious and therefor more difficult to deal with, allthough the much larger number of possible moves in chess will also make it more likely to make a decisive mistake. Chess is harder to play good, but it gives me more transparancy due to the pieces' differences in abilities. That doesn't mean that bigger local variations of chess, like the 36×36 square variant of shogi, would provide me with more of that transparancy I'm talking about. With 207 different types of pieces on the board, any player of chess would be lost in the chaos. But 6 different pieces make it much more doable.
I hope you understand what I'm saying.
Very nice video, thank you, Damian!👍
Thank you, World Champion!
Chess team⬇️
Me
Checkers is better, IDK what your talking about.
En lo personal me gustan mucho el ajedrez y las damas, sin embargo las damas requieren menos esfuerzo para jugar a un nivel decente, en cambio el ajedrez es como estar en la escuela, todos los días hay que entrenar y memorizar, esa fue una de mis razones para ir dejando de competir, incluso llegue a desarrollar trastornos de sueño por esto, en cambio las damas me han encantado llevo un año jugando y he logrado un muy buen nivel, en la escuela le he enseñado a muchos de mis amigos a jugar y les gusta, uno requiere una gran mente o un gran entrenamiento, aunque si me desanima el hecho de que en mi país no es nada popular, ni siquiera tienen federación, a pesar de eso a las damas les tengo mucho cariño, podría decir que incluso más que al ajedrez, aunque no se deberían comparar, son dos deportes muy divertidos que he disfrutado gratamente. Muy buen video.
¡Gracias por compartir tus experiencias! ¡Cruzo los dedos para que sigas aventurándote con las damas!
@@checkers_tv Claro que si, no dejare de jugar, gracias.
Honestly, I enjoyed this video. But as a person who prefers chess to checkers, I want to put my input. So I agree that the low barrier to enter is better, its potential to be played by many, and the standing out are all true advantages. I also agree that chess and checkers shouldn't be compared as harshly as they are. But couldn't the lesser competitive competition be seen as a disadvantage. Continuing, while yes there probably are more checkers players than chess, using Google Play Store downloads to represent the popularity of what is primarily a website feels off to me. Anyhow, thanks for the great content.
Thanks for sharing your suggestions! Of course, winning titles can be interpreted differently. My narrative was about the fact that it is easier to succeed, which builds self-confidence, and it is easier to reap the sporting benefits - a place in the national team, playing in international tournaments, etc. As for the number of players, I used application numbers to make some people realize that so many people look for information on the Internet/want to play checkers, although such numbers are not visible at tournaments.
@@checkers_tv You're right
I Like Chess Because Of The Pieces, It Is Needed A Strategic Thinking And Logical Knowledge To Make Moves, While I Like Draughts Because Of Its Forces Captures, It Is Easy To Calculate And Make Traps For Your Opponent.
Well explained why both games deserve respect and attention
I am a chess player who wants to learn and play checkers Where can I learn it
You can find my course on my checkers.tv websites, or you can just watch videos I publish on this channel.
Moim zdaniem szachy znacznie przeważają i biją popularnością warcaby. Choćby dlatego, że jak już pisałem mają wszędzie te same zasady gry a warcabów jest zbyt wiele odmian. W szachy zasiadamy i po prostu gramy w każdym zakątku świata, a w warcaby trzeba najpierw ustalić zasady gry, wielkość szachownicy i może się okazać, że każdy gracz woli co innego. Szachy to też np. jeden z elementów rywalizacji Stanów Zjednoczonych z Rosjanami, gdzie Fischer potrafił skutecznie ogrywać rosyjskich arcymistrzów, a szachowa szkoła radziecka od zawsze uchodziła za najlepszą. Potem szachy bardzo rozpropagował słynny mecz Kasparowa z komputerem. Coś niesamowitego, że człowiek grał z maszyną i do tego wygrywał. Chyba między innymi dlatego zainteresowałem się tą grą. Warcaby raczej nie miały takiego przebicia. Mam wrażenie, że najlepszego szachistę świata Magnusa Carlsena każdy kojarzy, niezależnie czy gra w szachy czy nie. Tysiące artykułów w internecie o tym graczu wychwalających jego talent, Mozart szachów jak go nazwano. Natomiast o warcabach jakoś cicho. Jeśli sam nie zacznę szukać informacji o mistrzu świata w warcabach czy najlepszych zawodnikach to nic nie będę wiedział, bo te informacje nie są zbyt popularne. Nawet fakt, że w warcabach, przynajmniej kobiecych, mamy większe sukcesy niż w szachach też jakoś nie poprawia tej sytuacji choćby w naszym kraju. Natalia Sadowska dwukrotną mistrzynią świata, kto o tym słyszał, ja dowiedziałem się chyba kiedyś przypadkiem i już zdążyłem zapomnieć. Jakby Jan-Krzysztof Duda ograł Carlsena i został mistrzem świata wiedzieliby wszyscy i wszędzie by o tym pisano. Już o samym meczu byłoby bardzo głośno, niezależnie od wyniku.
I w pełni się zgadzam ze wszystkimi Twoimi argumentami. Mam tylko nadzieję, którą będę wspierał ciężką pracą, że warcaby zyskają na popularności i niektóre z opisywanych przez Ciebie kwestii się zmienią.
Idk I play both and enjoy both probably chess more but that's only coz I'm good at it
Good for you! It's not easy to be good at both.
@@checkers_tv I didn't say I was good at checkers... I'm actually pretty average but I enjoy it
@@skiBDman joy is the most important thing :)
1:40 that's an absolute lie
It is not
It is a lie...@@itzfilippo
@@itzfilippoIndia, China are the populated countries and checkers isn't popular here... whereas chess is...
@@itzfilippo It is a lie tho. In my country India, with over 1.4 billion people, chess is much more mainstream than checkers.
In one of the scenes, the game we can see is not checkers, but Chinese chess. It looks like checkers because it uses two-dimensional pieces.
Yes, it is!
It's a reminder that, worldwide, chess also has its variants!
@@darkmaster022003 which is Chinese chess? :)
Wow, such a informative video, never knew checkers had so much theory in it, and as a chess player, checkers feels like a silly game you play with your friends kinda like Tic Tac Toe.
Glad you enjoyed it!
If someone ask me "if either chess or checker is more difficult " i would answer" well it's illogical to say that fish can climb up the mountain" isn't it!!!
I thought chess was more popular than checker 😂😂😂
in chess you have 200 motif like forks or pin in checkers you have one
"In checkers you have one"... is it a joke?
Coups simples :
Coups directs
Coups de l’épicier
Coups de la promenade
Coups de trombone
Coups de l’escargot
Coups de girouette
Coups de la navette
Coups de mazette
Coups Philippe
Coups du tiroir
Coups russes
Coups de l’africain
Collages
Le coup de la trappe (1)
Coups royaux (1)
Coups de l’express
Coups de longue vue
Coups de talon
Coups du chassé-croisé
Coups du double deux
Coups de double bis
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Coups compliqués:
Coups de la bombe (1)
Coups de la bombe (2)
Coups de l’éponge
Coups de mazette double (A)
Coups de mazette double (NA)
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Coup royal (4)
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Forcing (3)
Forcing (5)
Pièges (1)
Pièges (2)
Pièges (3)
Combinaisons avec temps de repos:
TR 1 + 1 (Lunette)
TR 1 + 1 Prises - A
TR 1+1 (Prises - B)
Coups du triangle (1)
Coups du triangle (2)
TR 2 + 1 (flèche)
TR 2 + 2
TR 3 + 1
Coups royaux (6A)
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TR 3 + 2
Coups de l’oeil de boeuf
Envoi à dame et collage
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Coups de l’enfermé (3A)
Coups de l’enfermé (3B)
Pivot - Motif 1
Pivot - Motif 2
Pivot - Motif 3
Pivot - Motif 4
Pivot - Motif 5
Coups de barrage (A)
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Pivot - Motif 7
Pivot - Motif 8
Pivot - Motif 11
MAT - Motif 2
MAT - Motif 3
Mat - Motif 4
Mat - Motif 6
Mat 13 et/ou enfermé 6
Only someone who doesn't know checkers well can write like that ;)
@alainvillesuzanne8613 wow! thank you for that!
As a chess player I love checkers it’s so fun and amazing! The only reason that it’s not considered on the level of chess is due to the lack of pieces, but I will never hate it.
In 10x10 international checkers (draughts) you have even more, 20 pieces each. Both games are very complex and impossible to master.
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Quizás algún día juguemos 😉👌
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No, there isn't.
I'm glad you think that way
People dont like simple rules game and go for complex but ended up being lower and come to simple rule game to restrain their motives and so on ... !!!😁😁😁
To me comparing chess and checkers is more like comparing American football to World football (soccer). Despite soccer's simpler rules (with less equipment and a lower barrier to entry), it remains the most widely played sports in the world. Complexity of a game has nothing to do with it's appeal to a wider audience. But Americans tend to find soccer more boring just like they do checkers. Yet both chess and checkers require creativity, and mental strategic thinking despite checkers having simpler rules.
Another ridiculous argument I have seen chess enthusiast use to bash checkers is that checkers (the American version) is solved (by the computer) and therefore a waste of time to play. First, international draughts is still not solved, and even if all checker variations were solved, how does that take away from experiencing the beauty of the game. Humans still can't acquire enough knowledge to beat the best checker programs. And when it comes to chess, no human has ever crossed an ELO of 2900 and similarly, no human today has a chance against the best computer programs (like stockfish with an ELO of 3400+). So what difference does it make if chess is not yet solved? These programs will only continue to improve widening the gap against humans. So does that make chess a useless game to learn? I don't think so.
The bottom line is that board games like checkers (draughts), chess, go, etc, should not be compared as to which is better but each in its own way helps us learn how to think strategically and purposely while hopefully letting us have some fun during that process, and for others - maybe even help make a living doing so.
After all - beauty is in the eyes of the beholder.
You put it all very well! I discussed the solvery of checkers and the explanation of international draughts in another video on the channel: th-cam.com/video/q5ABFYGtoB0/w-d-xo.html
Checkers is just too bland and limiting. It predominantly relies on calculations. In chess concepts like peace dynamics synergy coordination and development simply have more depth to them.
I understand your arguments, but I find it hard to agree with them. Checkers has the same features, but it probably takes years of playing to fully understand them.
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TLDR: piece dynamics synergy coordination and development are on a whole other level in chess. keeping in mind they exist and arent easy to grasp in checkers.
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Look. I am not saying those concepts dont exist in checkers, they are just severely watered down. Mainly cuz of the simplicity of a singular piece movement it often boils down to calculating the most advantageous moves in a relatively deterministic way. This is the reason the game has been solved in 2007 while chess continuously creates puzzles the best engines get lost it, and even ones that only humans can solve.
Chess simply has a much broader range of strategic synergistic concepts like evaluating piece value on their own on their position and on what other pieces they work well with. How different pieces exert different stresses on the position...
There are levels to this is all.
@@checkers_tv checkers is like stripping away everything from chess and leaving the rigorous calculations at play.
@@checkers_tv I legit cant deal with yt commenting system anymore. I wrote a lengthy reply where i explained my stance on the matter in more detail and i find it was deleted by the algorithm. Im so done with this.
@@dark6.6E-34 I'm sorry because of that, that's a pity as I would like to know a whole point of view.
Thank you!
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Yeah, that checks out. No bias here.
Regardless of bias or not, doesn't "being a party to a dispute" allow you to present your point of view/substantive arguments?
The main reason why Chess is thought to be better than Checkers is because it's more complicated. That's also why Baduk is considered to be better than Chess. At the end of the day play what you like.
Yup, just play what you like ☺️
1:36 looks like chinese chess for me🤔
I think it could be that :) I just needed some international footage for this scene ;)
Only chessers
That would be something.
So you’re saying checkers is simpler and easier than chess hence it’s better?
I draw the opposite conclusion
I didn't say that, please listen carefully. I said that rules are simpler and winning titles is easier. Mastering the game itself is difficult as well.
By that logic, you must freaking love the game of taykyoku shogi - and being the only dude in the world to move his 400 pieces on damn 36×36 board because it's hard and complicated
@@Аноним25-ж6т Are you a tic tac toe GM yet?
Chess is male, Checkers is female. That's about it. Both are practicaly Perfect games.
It's hard to say so, the current women's world champion is in 65th place on the world ranking list.
@@checkers_tv I was talking more about the structure of the games on the surface, like chess has a hierarchy of pieces while in checkers they're all equal, chess is more objective while checkers more intuitive, etc etc. Even the names... But you're right, I should have said masculine and feminine.
@@GilMonteverde Ok, I understand now what you meant, thank you :)
@@checkers_tv This fact is interesting. In the world of chess there is a debate about why women do not play at the same level as men since physical strength is not required. No satisfactory answer has been found to this obvious fact. The best female player is in 115th place on the FIDE rating list and it seems that the same thing happens in the checkers.
@@guillermofranco5841 Natalia Sadowska, a two-time women's world drafts champion, said women are less willing to take risks, which makes it more difficult to win at the highest level, where accuracy alone is not enough. Moreover, men are task-oriented and can fully focus on the task at hand. Women's psyche doesn't work that way and they always have some off-the-wall things in the back of their minds.
I had a mental breakdown in chess class in summer school in 3rd grade. This is because my chess teacher told us that the yellow chess pieces were team lemonade and it was 102 degrees that day and I was super thirsty. And hearing the word lemonade that my me more thirsty and that made me cry and roll all over the floor and I only lasted 2 days in that class. I dont’t have any bias with chess however I am sticking with checkers for now
Haha, great story! I feel sorry for you, but good luch at checkers 😅
El ajedrez es muy facil para mi....las damas es mas complicado, no puedes recular si cometiste un error.
¡Interesante! ¡Una afirmación como ésta no aparece a menudo!
нет пути назад, воин движется только вперёд
Heck no
Video too tedious. Just go for chess
Thanks, I'll stick to checkers 😍
Summarized. Checkers is faster game .
Checkers has a lower level of entry.
Checkers has more complex moves.
Checkers is more fun.
cheess is better in my opinion beacause you have a lot pieces in checkers you have one piece so this isn't intresting
Yet this is the case for the vast majority of abstract combinatorial games.
Isn't Go, for example, an interesting game?
Didn't forget about the kings?
Biggest cope ever.
No
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Trolling over a video about an abstract game...
In any case, chess hasn't taught you how to argue.
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Chess very easy for me
Checkers very hard .