So many of these beautiful structures got destroyed and now they’re gone forever. Dumbing down of people was the plan. Forget the past. I’m just glad more are getting interested in history and who built these structures. This is key to who we really are and not what “they” want us to be. Fantastic video and thanks!
I was born there in 58. My dad was a RR biz guy, his first office there was in the Terminal Tower. 2nd time the Rockefeller Bldg. I went to college at CSU, but it was something called First College, so I ended up in the Mather Mansion on Millionaire's Row. Rockefeller also had his summer spot in E. Cleveland, I worked in that building, part of which had once been a bank but was clearly a grand ballroom. I was on scare patrol for a Halloween celeb party at the Grays Armory. There's an old Planetarium bldg. there too but it's a wreck.
Another thing to consider is that these 5-15 story buildings had no air conditioning until the 1950s… imagine how hot and stuffy your office or hotel room would be on the top floors… I live near Cleveland and our summers are muggy and humid, being on the lake..
Something I've been studying is the routine prior use of chutes. Combined with large chimneys, and the use of geothermal tech (thanks to deep basements) it's possible these were integral components of advanced engineering that once circulated cool throughout. Warmer air potentially vented out of chutes....
I left Cleveland in the 1970's. I've been back a few times & always enjoy seeing some of the old buildings. In your video you had 2 shots of the Leader Building where my father had a law office with his partner Charles Vanik. Seeing the Colonial Arcade & the West Side Market drought back memories.
I used to water the plants in the Leader bldg! Now I am in construction. The bldg at 7:35, I believe is on E105. It was an old Jewish school at one point. CWRU now owns it. Rehabilitation into their new music school. The interesting thing about this property... the section North of the domed bldg was demo'd new structure was erected. During construction, you could tell that they were constructed at different times. Completely different quality of work. Seeing that picture, I am wondering if they converted partbof the hospital to use as the school. I also got to do the Garfield monument rehab, fortifying the footers. I literally was a plank of wood away from our president! One cool thing from that gig... the gargoyles on top were not just any old gargoyles-They were replications of his favorite dogs. Scrubbed up you can see them really good. BTW love your resesrch.
They don't want us having a community because that's how ideas are shared and information is passed. If we're in front of a screen they tell us our ideas and what's happening. People seem content enough with that. I wonder if their minds would change if they knew what the controllers think of them?
@@Dommommy i personally think their lack of knowing Christ is wat makes them scared. Abd they can see our light and it also scares them. But thats just me
When this place and the Rulers of Darkness are unable to snuff out your light thru their public education hellholes, it will do everything it can to destroy you. You will literally be put on a "Watch List" for targeted destruction. The more you are able to "overcome" the harder it tries. Imagine how powerful one with that kind of light would have to be to be targeted for destruction...
@TotalFreedomTTT-pk9st research. Same reason why most towns go to crap. Their kids don't want to stay. They move away, have their own property and rent. Tenants don't care, they don't own it.
Did some work for a new CMHA complex on Euclid Ave. The old mansion was owned by a big banker. While digging through the rubble I literally found a piece of broken glass from a child's piggyback. Go figure! It now sits in my box of cool site finds, marbles, hand made nails, and other treasures from the past.
The current City Hall never had a dome or tower as you speculate. The drawing of a city hall with trolley tracks running through the middle was never built. The West Side Market shown in your last photo is still a functioning public market in a very vibrant neighborhood in the city.
@@oldworldex In 2012 I found Silvie's channel newearth. Thus began ten years of un-learning and struggling with cognitive dissonance. I now believe that history, from the Hunter/Gatherer story to ancient Greece and Rome, the Middle Ages, Columbus, the American Revolutionary War, ...all of it! - the whole of 'history' ( his-story ) is but fiction, written recently. THE DECLINE AND FALL OF THE ROMAN EMPIRE took 3 months - 14 hours per day, 7 days per week - to read. What a waste of time! I have real trouble with 'researchers' who use questionable history to debunk questionable history. I say, "throw the baby out!" - along with the bath water.
Neoclassical architecture (revival of Classical architecture during the 18th and early 19th centuries) is characterized by grandeur of scale, Greek or Roman detail, and dramatic use of columns.
one more comment I was never expecting for this obscure video to take me down another rabbit hole, but I'm glad that it did. I'm born and raised from Cleveland and I was looking up history videos on CLE when the algorithm suggested your channels vid. I like how you have it all set up with the unassuming music as well as no eye popping titles. Yes nicely done hide in plain site as they do. I appreciated the sacred geometry comment because its been a while since I heard of it. When I've contemplated the amazing architecture that used to exist near me, I thought well back then there was no media i.e. smartphones or TV to distract us which gave folks the time to put in more pride into their work. Now from what you say if we hardly have the tech to pull off recreations from 100 years ago then, its puzzling to think how these buildings preceded European arrival. Are we in a continuous universe within our own "global map" kinda how the Nordic religion pointed out moving throughout the realms? And have we just migrated to new parts of that universe? I would much appreciate an actual response not a just a hearted reply if you do indeed engage the comment section.
I appreciate the comment. Some people say we are in the midst of converging timelines, or that our original timeline was hijacked and a 'virus' program was grafted over the previous one....and we are in the process of getting back to the original timeline. What I know is that the history we have been taught to believe is a well crafted lie...possibly crafted by an artificial intelligence and we're starting to find the errors in the coding. The 'usurpers' of our realm are on borrowed time, and would like nothing more than for us to remain ignorant to their lies and in so doing deny their(its) existence. The biggest trick the devil ever pulled.... thanks for watching my videos, I'm just a guy trying to share what I'm finding and the ideas that come with those discoveries. Not a lot of flash to my vids...but I ain't in it for that so here we are.
@@oldworldexyes...you are correct....it was a virus...it's just sad that you can't see that it was you and your ppl!!🙄 We all know who were living here B4 the white man arrived!!
We think of the 1960s as being so wow, while across the country so many beautiful solid buildings were just torn down , SF City Hall is an incredible truly awe some place, I used to go there to read and walk around.
After reading comments, I am grateful that Ibam not the only one INFURIATED by the ramblings of this ignorant narrator. I cannot abide by this type of simple thought that what existed not long ago did not exist or that the technology to produce such structures were impossible. Good grief.
I can't be the only one in this community who feels a deep burning hatred for those who deceive us all. The hiders of our true history. I'm not even saying it was "us" who built these magnificent structures. We likely just moved in after they were found(ed). But, we are lied to on such a massive scale it's almost unbelievable...which is exactly why it's so hard for some to believe.
I used to be mad but now I find gratefulness in having eyes that see and ears that hear truth. Challenge everything with an open mind and a kind heart.
Nobody is trying to hide anything. Industry left, people left, buildings fell into disrepair and had to be destroyed because they weren't taken care of and were beyond repair. Same reason there is a lot of crime in large areas of cleveland. Its just poverty, lack of funding, mismanagement of city assets, etc. There are still a lot of old buildings and houses left that are in seriously bad condition. They demolish a few buildings every day. I work in the streets all over cleveland every day because I locate water and sewer lines. Not everything is a conspiracy. Cleveland just is unpopular and poor compared to other cities of a similar size
I really enjoyed the video, but the background music was overpowering your commentary, sometimes in a "library voice" volume. Thank you for putting this together.
Good video and photo collection. It's worth a watch if you are familiar with Cleveland. On the presenter's commentary, I personally am fine with an ever-revolving landscape that ensures the most valued use of land at any particular time. Sure, some of those old buildings were beautiful at the time, but structures disintegrate over time. The cost of maintaining those old structures for modern use would have been insurmountable. And then there were very ugly buildings as well. I don't think anyone today would want to live in 1900 Cleveland today. It was cool to see pictures of Icons such as the Arcade (love that building) and what is now The Statler that looked very similar to how it looked in the portrait. Thanks to the presenter for posting.
Thank you for expressing the lost civilisation idea, it has opened up much to consider. Very different from your San Francisco narrative, which was far more intense and since my grandmother was a girl in SF in 1906 it was more than close to home.
Another strong video man. Is so nice that there are channels like this on TH-cam. Can only take so many videos of someone getting hit in the nuts on a skateboard
Totaly amazing reconsideration of the recent past, before modernism. Such great design that only few longer exist. Long lost Craftsmanship, great tradespeople, idealism in design. What happened? We view this work as ancient. But what have we sacrificed? 😊
There is a book titled “1491” by Charles C Mann that shows that the native Americans were more than tribal wanderers. The book suggests that the whole country was well populated by them until the introduction of European diseases like Chicken Pox and measles against which they had no immunity. These diseases wiped out the vast majority of them. I wonder just how advanced they truly were at their height.
I don’t think that Cleveland had neither the population, resources, nor time to construct the large number of truly amazing buildings we see in these photos.
The population in Cleveland, like many big cities affected by the School Bd vs Brown (integrating schools). Many parents did not want their (white) children to be bussed across town to the predominantly black neighborhoods, and opted instead to do what is called "white flight" where they sold their home in the Cleveland proper and moved to the suburbs. Cleveland and other major cities then experienced a deep decline in population, slumlords bought up properties cheaply and neighborhoods went in to deep decline.
"Slumlords bought up properties...." as per the plan - "White Flight" was the plan - get them to move and turn their Neighborhoods into rentals and get them to build endless Suburbs for the next 50 years so the Economy does not collapse
1) Understand the history of why cities are where they are based upon the geography, transportation and commerce/ industry of their respective time of rapid growth. 2) Take an urban planning course to understand the transformation of city's over time due to the change in transit options and their transition in use as well as commercial dominance and then replacement 3) Read a few history books on the city before you create video. Cleveland's CBD (Central Business District) is built on bluffs and river flats. The transition of the old receding glaciation that became the great lakes makes the ancient shoreline the primary roads (Euclid Avenue as example). It took off post civil war due to industrialization (as many cities in the Midwest did) as they were the current equivalent of the silicon valley but with focus on manufacturing . The Warehouse District was a prominent garment manufacturer of Union Soldiers uniforms. Some of the buildings you point out are missing key element e.g. The Grays Armory Castle looking building was built in 1893 not 1837. 1837 was the year the Grays were founded as a private military company. If you ever get a chance tour the museum. The architectural styles reflect styles popular at the time. The other castle like building Society of Savings Bank now a part of KeyBank is "Romanesque Revival". Others reflect the Beaux Arts movement from late 19th century and early 20th century. Interestingly, outside of Washington DC (McMillan Plan en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McMillan_Plan) and portion of San Francisco and Chicago, Cleveland has one of the few large aggregation of public buildings all done in this same architectural style promoted by the city beautiful movement. City Hall, County Courthouse, Federal Courthouse, Public Library, Board of Ed (now Drury Hotel), Public Hall and Music Hall as well as a few surrounding buildings (Calfee building across from Drury Hotel, was once East Ohio Gas and then NBC Building, Chamber of Commerce building demo'd for Key Tower complex here's a neat storytoursofcleveland.com/post-office-eagles/ ) these were done in Beaux Arts style . There was a Central Armory in footprint of the (Celebreeze Bldg b 1964) that looked like something out of Disneyland with four separate architectural motifs. The photos of the 1936 Great Lakes Exhibition were nice touch, however, it was never meant to be permanent - just as Chicago's Columbia Exhibition of 1893 was not and only a few structures remain as well as San Francisco's Panama Pacific Exhibition. While the quality of life was not as good as now it sure would have been fun to experience that period in time 1890s-1920s when much of America's greatest architecture and growth occurred. Thanks for the tour.
Wow the condescension here is palpable. How about I make a video in whichever fashion I choose. If you feel the need to recite the textbook version of history here on my channel, that's fine. Telling me I need to take a course and read the books you recommend reeks of ego. Thanks for the tidbit on the temporary worlds fairs as well, I was so uninformed before you showed me the light. I encourage my viewers to question everything...you could use a helping.
I started something on another channel in their comments section the other day. It was about grand French Chateaux, I just made a remark that it was amazing how they build these chateaux without power tool. Man, did I get the reply’s. Everything from slaves to hundreds of people, I just had to laugh. I do know why a lot of buildings and history were wiped out along the Ohio River. It was called the 1934 flood, so that’s why we lost some of our history here in Kentucky, Ohio and Indiana.
Did anyone else wonder why a oblesk is immediately in front of the house at 6:06, & @ 820, more bricked up windows, did people brick them up during the mini ice age?
Hiya bud. Seems to me that most of the Mississippi and Ohio River valley areas hold a lot of secrets. Cleveland is no exception. Some truly remarkable structures in that town. @24:00 Severance Hall photo looks like it had the dome removed. Very cool stuff. Cheers!
Where did you get these drawings? Who was/were the artist(s)? How do you know that these buildings were located in Cleveland? I don't mean to be rude. I just really want more information. Please authenticate this evidence.
@@oldworldexI am re-rewatching this video. As much as I wanted to find evidence of something nefarious, I don't see anything that looks out of place for the 1800s.
How to dumb down the people of an entire country? Set up a "public education system" thru local governments and make attendance MANDATORY. Purposely under-fund said schools. Have Congress pass legislation that provides for "Federal Grants" to schools for following certain "guidelines" and curriculums and enacting certain "policies" district wide. This would include grants for "free" breakfast and lunch in many schools, so that all students are eating the same adulterated food. Here, after COVID, suddenly all students have their own water bottles and these schools, which prior to COVID had no working water fountains, now have endless supplies of water "stations" available for the students to fill up their bottles with. Mandatory stupidity thru false history, Common Core Math, LGBTQ programming, and Language Arts taught to them by "teachers" who were sufficiently severely dumbed down in "college" along with the poisonous food and water is their recipe for disaster and we are at least two generations into it.
I enjoy your videos, but I don't think you have a good idea of the level of income inequality that existed between the workers who built these places, and the class of people they were built for. If your parents were post-WWII, you probably haven't seen the inside of a pre-1980s era steel mill or quarry or construction site, and what it was like to work there. Most of the Gilded Age palaces (even bridges had tolls, churches had collection expectations, and riffraff wasn't welcome in fancy stores) were out of reach for the working class. The places where they lived were tiny little hovels that were in walking distance of a grimy mill or gritty construction site, and a breadwinner losing his life on a big project was a weekly occurrence. Farming was equally dangerous. Going to high school before 1940 was a luxury on the order of going to grad school now. Immigrants flooded into this country because they were already willing to do anything to survive. Before FDR and the New Deal, the typical workweek was 60 hours and change. A young man or woman without a family would often earn room and board and maybe an extra 25 cents a week. If an accident didn't get them, then early death and disability often did. One out of three working class women died in childbirth or from ensuing complications. Which is why there were so many orphanages overflowing to the point of shipping kids out on orphan trains.
When I imagine a world with technology but without a commercially colluding government... I come up with what looks and sounds a lot like the “old world” hmm.
I found a demolition photo of the clock tower falling to the ground on the incredibly beautiful old world Lincoln High School in Portland Oregon. A tragic and wicked act.
Youre so delusional. The current regime doesnt build emaculate architecture because its expensive and only shareholder returns matter. We are fully capable of building them but profits over people. You dont need alien technolegy to do it. Half of the places you showed still exist but they require constant upkeep and are literally falling apart, while others were just too small to support a growing population. They werent erased. Canals exist for water and were often removed as cities stopped having farms. I cant even...
Can you make another version of these without the ramblings of an incoherent person with a poor understanding of history? Beware anyone who uses the word "narrative" 27 times in a conversation.
One of the weirdest and least believable conspiracy theories I've ever heard about, and that's really saying something. This old world is only like 2 human lifetimes removed from modernity if you believe it was still ongoing up to the late 1800s. There are around 13 million people in the US alone right now who are over age 80. If they also had grandparents who were 60~ years old when they were children, then their grandparents would have grown up in the 1880s and would have been telling them stories about the "old world" from their childhoods. At the extreme end of that, there are 90k~ people in the US who are 100+, whose grandparents could have born back as far as the 1820s if they were also 100+. We'd have literally millions of people with second hand accounts of the old world, not weird youtube videos made by schizos with too much free time and a high school education of history looking at old pictures and imagining they're seeing through the matrix. God society has an epidemic of schizophrenia. People see conspiracies everywhere and in every little thing. It's deranged.
If you can't see the conspiracy this late in the game...I'm not sure there's much hope for you. Keep following their science and see where that gets you...I appreciate you watching though. I'll wear the schizo label like a badge of honour...but I won't be taking any medication for it.
People From Past Generations Worked Very Hard To Create This Stuff A lot More Than Today , They Burned There Coal And Wood For Heating And Manufacturing Acid Rain ,And Those Building Was Failing They Removed Some Of It.
As far as "re-teaching" of people ... WHY did they change how my kids do basic math ??? They look at me like Im crazy when I show them "forget what your teacher taught you for a second , do it the way I was taught ... but respect your teacher" ... theres something dumb about adding 3 more steps to something thay ypu can do with your mind and/or fingers
The first photo is the Soldiers and Sailors Monument in the square downtown. Honors the fighters during the Civil War. You can go inside, names are carved in marble on the wall.
I cant do it i cant stay quiet anymore but I know theres alot of real clevelanders that wanna smack this guy and tell him to such up and quit commenting on something he really dont know nothing about, This guy really isn't from Cleveland I've lived in cleveland all my life and been in almost in every neighborhood in other words I know the place like the back of my hand. He is another one of those rich invester that's trying to school other newbies that moving in tearing down our history.
Here I thought this was a video about Cleveland's history. This narrator is trying to convince us of some science fiction conspiracy theory where all our history as recorded is just a massive coverup and this country is part of a much older civilization because the architecture is too sophisticated for the U.S. He acknowledges that this area was settled by European immigrants who brought architectural styles and techniques with them from much older countries but says "I don't buy that." Amazing what you find on TH-cam.
And, don't forget that if an old building is dated '1887', that really means *year 887* the year of our lord. That letter "I" is really the letter 'J' in English. It should be "Year J887". For example, Grays Armery looks way older than 140 years old. More like 1,140 years old haha
Exactly - and that alone should tell us to not trust much about what the 'experts' tell us to be taken as true since we were never taught about this - whether it is right or wrong - but the "1887" number was invariably put on there as a 'found' date - not a a construction date So it should have been written as "Found This in 887" but that would have really confused everyone
You might be 100% incorrect in your overall suspicions and the reality of all these structures legitimately built without the need for conspiracies. However, now that you have my attention… I need for all of this to make sense. I would need to consult a smart architect to help me understand and navigate the complexities of building so many ornate structures with limited technologies and resources. There must be some type of formula. We would need to know the approx start and end date of the construction of each building… And estimate the number of construction workers it would take to build each individual building. Then divide this # by the estimated overall number of possible construction workers that existed during these estimated construction timelines. Then you have to streamline these numbers based on the limited amount of skillsets that would have been required to build these structures. What percentage of construction workers could work at such a heights? I don't know the answer to that but I'm thinking a small percentage. I mean, we have no clue about the building of the pyramids… So this video has to be taking somewhat seriously and there's got to be some type of science behind proving the legitimacy of how so many of these complicated structures were built in the 1800s. Again, I have no clue but it brings up some serious questions that should be easily answered. Maybe when quantum computing and general artificial intelligence combine… Making AI 1M times smarter than a human… We'll figure all of this out🤷♂️
They have blueprints for all these buildings and some of these are actually brought over from other countries because yes this is an immigrant company…. U could easily rebuild all of these we just don’t it’s not cost effective and out world is not the same
Why do narrators use the term "antiquitech?" What exactly is one referring to when using this term? "Antiquitech" is technically a concept related to mechanical harnessing of naturally ocurring electrical energy, such as lightning and magnetic energy. How does this relate to these buildings in Cleveland? Also, the statement that architecture is not of a particular defined age "not fitting the historical narrative" being spoken several times in reference to architectural specimens. Claiming that things are "fishy" and a " parasitic narrative" is utterly ridiculous and there truly is NO EVIDENCE of this new false narrative. I cannot believe that anybody would claim that this new way of thinking is one of refuting history and believing that because we are incapable of creating monuments that once existed because we dont do this today. THIS IS PURE AND SIMPLE MISINFORMATION. ABSOLUTE RUBBISH. THE DENIAL OF HISTORY BY SEEMINGLY UNEDUCATED INDIVIDUALS IS OUTRAGEOUS.
Your pronunciations about "Antiquitech" is unproven hearsay, if not false. These structures built prior to the modern harnessing of electricity, were functionally possible through the use of coal (oil) or gas for heating and gas for artificial illumination. There did not exist any tools or appliances that utilized electricity as they hadn't been produced prior to Tesla and Edison's inventions.
How do you explain all the Streetcar's pulled by Horses ? and a few years later the same streetcars being powered without Horses ? This research is questioning the whole narrative which puts Tesla and Edison into the same reassessment - you just are not ready yet - put your nightcap on and go back to sleep with your cup of warm milk
No domes were removed from the City Hall it seems like you are trying to fit into some odd conspiratorial narrative. If you want to discuss the economics of why things aren't built this way anymore that may be more suitable. Advances in technology for HVAC as well as government imposed building codes/ regulations etc... You sound like you are trying mix "New Age" lingo into a History, Economics, and Social, Political discussion. If you want to talk about why the American Society has gone down the drain it is the abrogation of parenting and education to consumerist corporate driven segmentation and purposeful discord to convince people they need to buy or use whatever product or service they are selling and increase 'ratings/clicks' via conflict and controversy. As well as seeking family in a "third" party, to be controlled by political / religious alignments / race/ i.e. "Identity politics". There is an old investing axiom that holds true to why this occurs "There is more money to be made when there is blood in the streets". So in that degree I agree the elites that rule our current government have no interest in helping the people but rather to farm them at the behest of their controllers/ funders. But this has nothing to do with the evolution of the built environment to the degree you seem to be inferring.
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So many of these beautiful structures got destroyed and now they’re gone forever.
Dumbing down of people was the plan. Forget the past.
I’m just glad more are getting interested in history and who built these structures.
This is key to who we really are and not what “they” want us to be.
Fantastic video and thanks!
I was born there in 58. My dad was a RR biz guy, his first office there was in the Terminal Tower. 2nd time the Rockefeller Bldg. I went to college at CSU, but it was something called First College, so I ended up in the Mather Mansion on Millionaire's Row. Rockefeller also had his summer spot in E. Cleveland, I worked in that building, part of which had once been a bank but was clearly a grand ballroom. I was on scare patrol for a Halloween celeb party at the Grays Armory. There's an old Planetarium bldg. there too but it's a wreck.
Another thing to consider is that these 5-15 story buildings had no air conditioning until the 1950s… imagine how hot and stuffy your office or hotel room would be on the top floors… I live near Cleveland and our summers are muggy and humid, being on the lake..
Something I've been studying is the routine prior use of chutes. Combined with large chimneys, and the use of geothermal tech (thanks to deep basements) it's possible these were integral components of advanced engineering that once circulated cool throughout. Warmer air potentially vented out of chutes....
I left Cleveland in the 1970's. I've been back a few times & always enjoy seeing some of the old buildings. In your video you had 2 shots of the Leader Building where my father had a law office with his partner Charles Vanik. Seeing the Colonial Arcade & the West Side Market drought back memories.
I used to water the plants in the Leader bldg! Now I am in construction. The bldg at 7:35, I believe is on E105. It was an old Jewish school at one point. CWRU now owns it. Rehabilitation into their new music school. The interesting thing about this property... the section North of the domed bldg was demo'd new structure was erected. During construction, you could tell that they were constructed at different times. Completely different quality of work. Seeing that picture, I am wondering if they converted partbof the hospital to use as the school. I also got to do the Garfield monument rehab, fortifying the footers. I literally was a plank of wood away from our president! One cool thing from that gig... the gargoyles on top were not just any old gargoyles-They were replications of his favorite dogs. Scrubbed up you can see them really good. BTW love your resesrch.
They don't want us having a community because that's how ideas are shared and information is passed. If we're in front of a screen they tell us our ideas and what's happening. People seem content enough with that. I wonder if their minds would change if they knew what the controllers think of them?
And a community tajes care of 9ne another and doesn't need a government
@@dennisstone1207 You got that right and that's what they fear. People such as you and I terrify them.
@@Dommommy i personally think their lack of knowing Christ is wat makes them scared. Abd they can see our light and it also scares them. But thats just me
@@dennisstone1207 I concur. That's why they do all they can to snuff out that light.
When this place and the Rulers of Darkness are unable to snuff out your light thru their public education hellholes, it will do everything it can to destroy you. You will literally be put on a "Watch List" for targeted destruction. The more you are able to "overcome" the harder it tries. Imagine how powerful one with that kind of light would have to be to be targeted for destruction...
Cleveland and East Cleveland were once two beautiful cities. I still drive down old millionaire row to look at the old architecture. 😊
Cleveland still is beautiful.
Except there isn't any ..
Except the "Millionaire's " probably did not build them - ever wonder why "Millionaire's" would allow them to be torn down ?
@TotalFreedomTTT-pk9st research. Same reason why most towns go to crap. Their kids don't want to stay. They move away, have their own property and rent. Tenants don't care, they don't own it.
Did some work for a new CMHA complex on Euclid Ave. The old mansion was owned by a big banker. While digging through the rubble I literally found a piece of broken glass from a child's piggyback. Go figure! It now sits in my box of cool site finds, marbles, hand made nails, and other treasures from the past.
The current City Hall never had a dome or tower as you speculate. The drawing of a city hall with trolley tracks running through the middle was never built. The West Side Market shown in your last photo is still a functioning public market in a very vibrant neighborhood in the city.
Nearly 5am. I have binge-watched every single video put out by Old World Exploration. Great stuff!
Glad you're here. I've been enjoying your input. It sure ain't what they said it was now is it?
@@oldworldex In 2012 I found Silvie's channel newearth. Thus began ten years of un-learning and struggling with cognitive dissonance. I now believe that history, from the Hunter/Gatherer story to ancient Greece and Rome, the Middle Ages, Columbus, the American Revolutionary War, ...all of it! - the whole of 'history' ( his-story ) is but fiction, written recently.
THE DECLINE AND FALL OF THE ROMAN EMPIRE took 3 months - 14 hours per day, 7 days per week - to read. What a waste of time!
I have real trouble with 'researchers' who use questionable history to debunk questionable history. I say, "throw the baby out!" - along with the bath water.
Neoclassical architecture (revival of Classical architecture during the 18th and early 19th centuries) is characterized by grandeur of scale, Greek or Roman detail, and dramatic use of columns.
one more comment I was never expecting for this obscure video to take me down another rabbit hole, but I'm glad that it did. I'm born and raised from Cleveland and I was looking up history videos on CLE when the algorithm suggested your channels vid. I like how you have it all set up with the unassuming music as well as no eye popping titles. Yes nicely done hide in plain site as they do. I appreciated the sacred geometry comment because its been a while since I heard of it.
When I've contemplated the amazing architecture that used to exist near me, I thought well back then there was no media i.e. smartphones or TV to distract us which gave folks the time to put in more pride into their work.
Now from what you say if we hardly have the tech to pull off recreations from 100 years ago then, its puzzling to think how these buildings preceded European arrival.
Are we in a continuous universe within our own "global map" kinda how the Nordic religion pointed out moving throughout the realms? And have we just migrated to new parts of that universe?
I would much appreciate an actual response not a just a hearted reply if you do indeed engage the comment section.
I appreciate the comment. Some people say we are in the midst of converging timelines, or that our original timeline was hijacked and a 'virus' program was grafted over the previous one....and we are in the process of getting back to the original timeline. What I know is that the history we have been taught to believe is a well crafted lie...possibly crafted by an artificial intelligence and we're starting to find the errors in the coding. The 'usurpers' of our realm are on borrowed time, and would like nothing more than for us to remain ignorant to their lies and in so doing deny their(its) existence. The biggest trick the devil ever pulled.... thanks for watching my videos, I'm just a guy trying to share what I'm finding and the ideas that come with those discoveries. Not a lot of flash to my vids...but I ain't in it for that so here we are.
@@oldworldexyes...you are correct....it was a virus...it's just sad that you can't see that it was you and your ppl!!🙄 We all know who were living here B4 the white man arrived!!
The old cleveland looked better in some aspects
I live on w25th and can honestly say i love my city ❤Cleveland
Thanks for walking through this timeline
We think of the 1960s as being so wow, while across the country so many beautiful solid buildings were just torn down , SF City Hall is an incredible truly awe some place, I used to go there to read and walk around.
After reading comments, I am grateful that Ibam not the only one INFURIATED by the ramblings of this ignorant narrator. I cannot abide by this type of simple thought that what existed not long ago did not exist or that the technology to produce such structures were impossible. Good grief.
I can't be the only one in this community who feels a deep burning hatred for those who deceive us all. The hiders of our true history. I'm not even saying it was "us" who built these magnificent structures. We likely just moved in after they were found(ed). But, we are lied to on such a massive scale it's almost unbelievable...which is exactly why it's so hard for some to believe.
I used to be mad but now I find gratefulness in having eyes that see and ears that hear truth. Challenge everything with an open mind and a kind heart.
no i dont have a deep burning hatred...most people believe it themselves..... i doubt there any decievers alive today
Nobody is trying to hide anything. Industry left, people left, buildings fell into disrepair and had to be destroyed because they weren't taken care of and were beyond repair. Same reason there is a lot of crime in large areas of cleveland. Its just poverty, lack of funding, mismanagement of city assets, etc. There are still a lot of old buildings and houses left that are in seriously bad condition. They demolish a few buildings every day. I work in the streets all over cleveland every day because I locate water and sewer lines. Not everything is a conspiracy. Cleveland just is unpopular and poor compared to other cities of a similar size
I’m with you. Felt this from a very young age. This is my hometown
I really enjoyed the video, but the background music was overpowering your commentary, sometimes in a "library voice" volume. Thank you for putting this together.
Good video and photo collection. It's worth a watch if you are familiar with Cleveland. On the presenter's commentary, I personally am fine with an ever-revolving landscape that ensures the most valued use of land at any particular time. Sure, some of those old buildings were beautiful at the time, but structures disintegrate over time. The cost of maintaining those old structures for modern use would have been insurmountable. And then there were very ugly buildings as well. I don't think anyone today would want to live in 1900 Cleveland today. It was cool to see pictures of Icons such as the Arcade (love that building) and what is now The Statler that looked very similar to how it looked in the portrait. Thanks to the presenter for posting.
Thank you for expressing the lost civilisation idea, it has opened up much to consider. Very different from your San Francisco narrative, which was far more intense and since my grandmother was a girl in SF in 1906 it was more than close to home.
The Temple is the Maltz Temple. its still there. on the east by the Cleveland Clinic and UH Hospital. E. 105 & Chester Ave.
Another strong video man. Is so nice that there are channels like this on TH-cam. Can only take so many videos of someone getting hit in the nuts on a skateboard
Wow, Cleveland looked so alive back then! It’s a shame that you can’t see that much like that now
WHO IS NARRATING? WHAT IS HIS NAME AND WHAT ARE HIS CREDENTIALS? VERY INTERESTING COMMENTARY LEAVES YOU WANTING MORE.😮
My name is Chris. I am a curious truth seeker who's lost all trust in the establishment. I am also a carpenter by trade....thanks for watching.
Totaly amazing reconsideration of the recent past, before modernism. Such great design that only few longer exist. Long lost Craftsmanship, great tradespeople, idealism in design. What happened? We view this work as ancient. But what have we sacrificed? 😊
There is a book titled “1491” by Charles C Mann that shows that the native Americans were more than tribal wanderers. The book suggests that the whole country was well populated by them until the introduction of European diseases like Chicken Pox and measles against which they had no immunity. These diseases wiped out the vast majority of them. I wonder just how advanced they truly were at their height.
I don’t think that Cleveland had neither the population, resources, nor time to construct the large number of truly amazing buildings we see in these photos.
Of course they had the means! They were craftsmen from Europe 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Most of us new to the US arrived with $10. Thats all. Seems to me that is still going on only now on the southern border.
The population in Cleveland, like many big cities affected by the School Bd vs Brown (integrating schools). Many parents did not want their (white) children to be bussed across town to the predominantly black neighborhoods, and opted instead to do what is called "white flight" where they sold their home in the Cleveland proper and moved to the suburbs. Cleveland and other major cities then experienced a deep decline in population, slumlords bought up properties cheaply and neighborhoods went in to deep decline.
just shows u how much effect white people have
"Slumlords bought up properties...." as per the plan - "White Flight" was the plan - get them to move and turn their Neighborhoods into rentals and get them to build endless Suburbs for the next 50 years so the Economy does not collapse
1) Understand the history of why cities are where they are based upon the geography, transportation and commerce/ industry of their respective time of rapid growth. 2) Take an urban planning course to understand the transformation of city's over time due to the change in transit options and their transition in use as well as commercial dominance and then replacement 3) Read a few history books on the city before you create video.
Cleveland's CBD (Central Business District) is built on bluffs and river flats. The transition of the old receding glaciation that became the great lakes makes the ancient shoreline the primary roads (Euclid Avenue as example). It took off post civil war due to industrialization (as many cities in the Midwest did) as they were the current equivalent of the silicon valley but with focus on manufacturing . The Warehouse District was a prominent garment manufacturer of Union Soldiers uniforms. Some of the buildings you point out are missing key element e.g. The Grays Armory Castle looking building was built in 1893 not 1837. 1837 was the year the Grays were founded as a private military company. If you ever get a chance tour the museum.
The architectural styles reflect styles popular at the time. The other castle like building Society of Savings Bank now a part of KeyBank is "Romanesque Revival". Others reflect the Beaux Arts movement from late 19th century and early 20th century. Interestingly, outside of Washington DC (McMillan Plan en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McMillan_Plan) and portion of San Francisco and Chicago, Cleveland has one of the few large aggregation of public buildings all done in this same architectural style promoted by the city beautiful movement. City Hall, County Courthouse, Federal Courthouse, Public Library, Board of Ed (now Drury Hotel), Public Hall and Music Hall as well as a few surrounding buildings (Calfee building across from Drury Hotel, was once East Ohio Gas and then NBC Building, Chamber of Commerce building demo'd for Key Tower complex here's a neat storytoursofcleveland.com/post-office-eagles/ ) these were done in Beaux Arts style . There was a Central Armory in footprint of the (Celebreeze Bldg b 1964) that looked like something out of Disneyland with four separate architectural motifs.
The photos of the 1936 Great Lakes Exhibition were nice touch, however, it was never meant to be permanent - just as Chicago's Columbia Exhibition of 1893 was not and only a few structures remain as well as San Francisco's Panama Pacific Exhibition. While the quality of life was not as good as now it sure would have been fun to experience that period in time 1890s-1920s when much of America's greatest architecture and growth occurred. Thanks for the tour.
Wow the condescension here is palpable. How about I make a video in whichever fashion I choose. If you feel the need to recite the textbook version of history here on my channel, that's fine. Telling me I need to take a course and read the books you recommend reeks of ego. Thanks for the tidbit on the temporary worlds fairs as well, I was so uninformed before you showed me the light. I encourage my viewers to question everything...you could use a helping.
Hi I'm sorry I read your reply I was enjoying the video thanks for that , party on
I started something on another channel in their comments section the other day. It was about grand French Chateaux, I just made a remark that it was amazing how they build these chateaux without power tool. Man, did I get the reply’s. Everything from slaves to hundreds of people, I just had to laugh.
I do know why a lot of buildings and history were wiped out along the Ohio River. It was called the 1934 flood, so that’s why we lost some of our history here in Kentucky, Ohio and Indiana.
Im from ohio cincinnati so much old world
The weather off the lake beats the crap out of these buildings. I bet many of these had domes
Did anyone else wonder why a oblesk is immediately in front of the house at 6:06, & @ 820, more bricked up windows, did people brick them up during the mini ice age?
Hiya bud. Seems to me that most of the Mississippi and Ohio River valley areas hold a lot of secrets. Cleveland is no exception. Some truly remarkable structures in that town. @24:00 Severance Hall photo looks like it had the dome removed. Very cool stuff. Cheers!
I can help with 17:34
That was a proposal for the cle city hall. It was to resemble philly’s. It was never built
Can you look into Akron Ohio!! We have a huge underground city here. The entire city is built ontop of an old city
Where did you get these drawings? Who was/were the artist(s)? How do you know that these buildings were located in Cleveland? I don't mean to be rude. I just really want more information. Please authenticate this evidence.
Give me a timestamp so I know which one you're talking about.
@@oldworldexI am re-rewatching this video. As much as I wanted to find evidence of something nefarious, I don't see anything that looks out of place for the 1800s.
@@oldworldex I do share your love of Traditional architecture and design. 💞
@@staciehaneline9533 No problem...I appreciate you watching.
Fun to just be amused at how out of touch some people are. I actually thought this was a normal video at first.....
What's normal? Kansas is going by by friend, buckle up! And thanks for watching...
The dumbing down of people through ignorance
How to dumb down the people of an entire country? Set up a "public education system" thru local governments and make attendance MANDATORY. Purposely under-fund said schools. Have Congress pass legislation that provides for "Federal Grants" to schools for following certain "guidelines" and curriculums and enacting certain "policies" district wide. This would include grants for "free" breakfast and lunch in many schools, so that all students are eating the same adulterated food. Here, after COVID, suddenly all students have their own water bottles and these schools, which prior to COVID had no working water fountains, now have endless supplies of water "stations" available for the students to fill up their bottles with. Mandatory stupidity thru false history, Common Core Math, LGBTQ programming, and Language Arts taught to them by "teachers" who were sufficiently severely dumbed down in "college" along with the poisonous food and water is their recipe for disaster and we are at least two generations into it.
I enjoy your videos, but I don't think you have a good idea of the level of income inequality that existed between the workers who built these places, and the class of people they were built for. If your parents were post-WWII, you probably haven't seen the inside of a pre-1980s era steel mill or quarry or construction site, and what it was like to work there. Most of the Gilded Age palaces (even bridges had tolls, churches had collection expectations, and riffraff wasn't welcome in fancy stores) were out of reach for the working class. The places where they lived were tiny little hovels that were in walking distance of a grimy mill or gritty construction site, and a breadwinner losing his life on a big project was a weekly occurrence. Farming was equally dangerous. Going to high school before 1940 was a luxury on the order of going to grad school now. Immigrants flooded into this country because they were already willing to do anything to survive. Before FDR and the New Deal, the typical workweek was 60 hours and change. A young man or woman without a family would often earn room and board and maybe an extra 25 cents a week. If an accident didn't get them, then early death and disability often did. One out of three working class women died in childbirth or from ensuing complications. Which is why there were so many orphanages overflowing to the point of shipping kids out on orphan trains.
Thank you! Beautiful and treasured history.
When I imagine a world with technology but without a commercially colluding government...
I come up with what looks and sounds a lot like the “old world” hmm.
All of this traditional architecture looks completely normal for the time period in which it was built.
I found a demolition photo of the clock tower falling to the ground on the incredibly beautiful old world Lincoln High School in Portland Oregon. A tragic and wicked act.
Cleveland is a viaduct city...LUV BEAGS 🐶
Thanks for shootin in...
They used to say there are more polls in cleveland than warsaw
feels like I'm waiting for a punchline...
Zero knowledge of engineering or the work that goes into the stuff ur talking about is the sad part…
I have always felt like this. Growing up in Cleveland. So many magnificent structures. Beyond our current capacity of construction
No they aren't. Lol
At 9:09...Always wondered why it's called _High_ School, perhaps you just gave the answer!
Youre so delusional. The current regime doesnt build emaculate architecture because its expensive and only shareholder returns matter. We are fully capable of building them but profits over people. You dont need alien technolegy to do it.
Half of the places you showed still exist but they require constant upkeep and are literally falling apart, while others were just too small to support a growing population. They werent erased.
Canals exist for water and were often removed as cities stopped having farms.
I cant even...
Can you make another version of these without the ramblings of an incoherent person with a poor understanding of history? Beware anyone who uses the word "narrative" 27 times in a conversation.
beware....
The only thing thats incoherent is the official "narrative"
AT 6:04 minutes looks like it might be the original lighthouse at Main and W.9th
The Gothic Revival Movement began in the late 1840s in England. What doesn't line up? Can you please be more specific?
are we to think that the natives had these structures built up?
I think the timeline of history is a fabrication...
One of the weirdest and least believable conspiracy theories I've ever heard about, and that's really saying something. This old world is only like 2 human lifetimes removed from modernity if you believe it was still ongoing up to the late 1800s. There are around 13 million people in the US alone right now who are over age 80. If they also had grandparents who were 60~ years old when they were children, then their grandparents would have grown up in the 1880s and would have been telling them stories about the "old world" from their childhoods. At the extreme end of that, there are 90k~ people in the US who are 100+, whose grandparents could have born back as far as the 1820s if they were also 100+. We'd have literally millions of people with second hand accounts of the old world, not weird youtube videos made by schizos with too much free time and a high school education of history looking at old pictures and imagining they're seeing through the matrix.
God society has an epidemic of schizophrenia. People see conspiracies everywhere and in every little thing. It's deranged.
If you can't see the conspiracy this late in the game...I'm not sure there's much hope for you. Keep following their science and see where that gets you...I appreciate you watching though. I'll wear the schizo label like a badge of honour...but I won't be taking any medication for it.
The problem is ur historical narrative… u haven’t actually studied all the dimensions of what ur trying to insinuate
People From Past Generations Worked Very Hard To Create This Stuff A lot More Than Today , They Burned There Coal And Wood For Heating And Manufacturing Acid Rain ,And Those Building Was Failing They Removed Some Of It.
A previous civilization, how correct he is. Sad
As far as "re-teaching" of people ... WHY did they change how my kids do basic math ??? They look at me like Im crazy when I show them "forget what your teacher taught you for a second , do it the way I was taught ... but respect your teacher" ... theres something dumb about adding 3 more steps to something thay ypu can do with your mind and/or fingers
The first photo is the Soldiers and Sailors Monument in the square downtown. Honors the fighters during the Civil War. You can go inside, names are carved in marble on the wall.
I cant do it i cant stay quiet anymore but I know theres alot of real clevelanders that wanna smack this guy and tell him to such up and quit commenting on something he really dont know nothing about, This guy really isn't from Cleveland I've lived in cleveland all my life and been in almost in every neighborhood in other words I know the place like the back of my hand. He is another one of those rich invester that's trying to school other newbies that moving in tearing down our history.
Wow -
Is it only my YT? Every video I look at has 32 likes! 20 or so so far. Wtf? Now they all have 33.
Reprogram ur b
I don't believe we have what takes to build like this any more seems like we lost the care everything in plane now
So.. it's the "Nothing New Narrative".
Here I thought this was a video about Cleveland's history. This narrator is trying to convince us of some science fiction conspiracy theory where all our history as recorded is just a massive coverup and this country is part of a much older civilization because the architecture is too sophisticated for the U.S. He acknowledges that this area was settled by European immigrants who brought architectural styles and techniques with them from much older countries but says "I don't buy that." Amazing what you find on TH-cam.
It all depends on what you're ready to let go of..
And, don't forget that if an old building is dated '1887', that really means *year 887* the year of our lord. That letter "I" is really the letter 'J' in English. It should be "Year J887". For example, Grays Armery looks way older than 140 years old. More like 1,140 years old haha
Wtf?
Exactly - and that alone should tell us to not trust much about what the 'experts' tell us to be taken as true since we were never taught about this - whether it is right or wrong - but the "1887" number was invariably put on there as a 'found' date - not a a construction date So it should have been written as "Found This in 887" but that would have really confused everyone
Yes it was easily done - it was modern times
You might be 100% incorrect in your overall suspicions and the reality of all these structures legitimately built without the need for conspiracies. However, now that you have my attention… I need for all of this to make sense. I would need to consult a smart architect to help me understand and navigate the complexities of building so many ornate structures with limited technologies and resources. There must be some type of formula. We would need to know the approx start and end date of the construction of each building… And estimate the number of construction workers it would take to build each individual building. Then divide this # by the estimated overall number of possible construction workers that existed during these estimated construction timelines.
Then you have to streamline these numbers based on the limited amount of skillsets that would have been required to build these structures. What percentage of construction workers could work at such a heights? I don't know the answer to that but I'm thinking a small percentage. I mean, we have no clue about the building of the pyramids… So this video has to be taking somewhat seriously and there's got to be some type of science behind proving the legitimacy of how so many of these complicated structures were built in the 1800s. Again, I have no clue but it brings up some serious questions that should be easily answered.
Maybe when quantum computing and general artificial intelligence combine… Making AI 1M times smarter than a human… We'll figure all of this out🤷♂️
They have blueprints for all these buildings and some of these are actually brought over from other countries because yes this is an immigrant company…. U could easily rebuild all of these we just don’t it’s not cost effective and out world is not the same
Why do narrators use the term "antiquitech?" What exactly is one referring to when using this term? "Antiquitech" is technically a concept related to mechanical harnessing of naturally ocurring electrical energy, such as lightning and magnetic energy. How does this relate to these buildings in Cleveland?
Also, the statement that architecture is not of a particular defined age "not fitting the historical narrative" being spoken several times in reference to architectural specimens. Claiming that things are "fishy" and a " parasitic narrative" is utterly ridiculous and there truly is NO EVIDENCE of this new false narrative. I cannot believe that anybody would claim that this new way of thinking is one of refuting history and believing that because we are incapable of creating monuments that once existed because we dont do this today. THIS IS PURE AND SIMPLE MISINFORMATION. ABSOLUTE RUBBISH. THE DENIAL OF HISTORY BY SEEMINGLY UNEDUCATED INDIVIDUALS IS OUTRAGEOUS.
Love the CAPS at the end...you really hammered it home! Question everything or do as you're told...this is the age we live in. Good luck..
Your pronunciations about "Antiquitech" is unproven hearsay, if not false. These structures built prior to the modern harnessing of electricity, were functionally possible through the use of coal (oil) or gas for heating and gas for artificial illumination. There did not exist any tools or appliances that utilized electricity as they hadn't been produced prior to Tesla and Edison's inventions.
Ya thanks for giving us the Wiki version of history. You're providing a whole lotta laughs for the thread with your authoritative tone....a whole lot.
How do you explain all the Streetcar's pulled by Horses ? and a few years later the same streetcars being powered without Horses ? This research is questioning the whole narrative which puts Tesla and Edison into the same reassessment - you just are not ready yet - put your nightcap on and go back to sleep with your cup of warm milk
No domes were removed from the City Hall it seems like you are trying to fit into some odd conspiratorial narrative. If you want to discuss the economics of why things aren't built this way anymore that may be more suitable. Advances in technology for HVAC as well as government imposed building codes/ regulations etc...
You sound like you are trying mix "New Age" lingo into a History, Economics, and Social, Political discussion.
If you want to talk about why the American Society has gone down the drain it is the abrogation of parenting and education to consumerist corporate driven segmentation and purposeful discord to convince people they need to buy or use whatever product or service they are selling and increase 'ratings/clicks' via conflict and controversy. As well as seeking family in a "third" party, to be controlled by political / religious alignments / race/ i.e. "Identity politics". There is an old investing axiom that holds true to why this occurs "There is more money to be made when there is blood in the streets". So in that degree I agree the elites that rule our current government have no interest in helping the people but rather to farm them at the behest of their controllers/ funders.
But this has nothing to do with the evolution of the built environment to the degree you seem to be inferring.
You're getting closer...dig deeper.
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