Straining Honey and Rendering Wax
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Here is the take from a wild hive removal that was loaded down with honey from a couple of honey flows. That video is linked below.
• Removing A Honey Loade...
I will be using the wax from that hive to make some products. That idea came from some other channels. Mainly Pop's Shack who's channel I'll link below as well.
• DIY Beeswax Chopping B...
• DIY Beeswax Moisturisi...
Every now and then I come back and watch this video. It’s so fascinating.
Thanks 628DirtRooster! This video is just what I needed. I did my first cutout last weekend in my house and just received the strainer from Mann Lake so I'll be straining honey this afternoon. I don't think my wife will surrender the crock pot though LOL. Thanks for doing all you do, you have been great inspiration for me. Those bees had been living in our house rent free for years, now they live in my hive. They seem to like it just fine.
You have to jimmy the door and claim someone broke in and only stole the crock pot. ;)
OMG at the end when you picked up that blue bucket of honey by the wire handle.......I was praying that handle held! I've had a couple of surprises in my lifetime with buckets and wire handles.
My local bakery gave me several empty buckets that their icing comes in, so if someone wants 'food grade' buckets, a bakery is a great source of buckets for free.
Ask at the Walmart bakery and if I remember right they sell the used ones for 1 or 2 dollars each with the lid.
I'll have to check out my local bakery. Thanks for the tip
Thank you Tiger Mom.
LSUTigerMom thanks!!
This is so satisfying, don't know why.
RavenWall My wife got me into this I started a removal service just to give her the cumbs brute and wax she is native American
RavenWall My wife makes all kinds of shit soap lotion make up pancake syrup the native Americans use rooling stones and mesh to strain the honey ill tell her make a video
Right!! I thought that myself!!!
Idk why, but you got me hooked on these videos. I just now checked when they were made... lol! Good work!
food grade bucket or not i guess some folks have never drank from a garden hose lol
Damn man I get lost in your videos lol. Like I'll just see one then about an hour or so later I realize that I've been watching your videos for so long that I need to stop.
Ha! You need an egg timer next to your computer.
You ought to try to find an old wringer washer our moms used back when I was a kid. You can tighten down the rollers to push your cones through. The honey will drop down on the feeder side of the wringer. You can place a large round bucket below the wringer to catch the honey.
Ohhhh, the honey looks so delicious........ deep gold, running smooth.....
Thank you DirtRooster. Learned so much from you. I like how you let the bees and chickens have at the wax so they can grab what they want.
Claire Stone I like to share. Thanks for watching.
Roster, I like the way you do things. Don't worry about the people who want to complain about everything.
Glad to have you on board.
Thank you for interesting Video. Best greetings from beekeepers in Ukraine! Good luck and good honey!
I'm not a beekeeper but I find your videos fascinating. You should have a TV show.
That would turn it into a job.
I wonder how well a homemade hydraulic press using a 1/2 tonne or 1 tonne bottle jack would work to crush the wax.
The cheap Lowes (Encore branded) buckets are food grade.
I get 4gal food grade buckets w/lids for free from a local diner. They go through LOTS of butter! Ask the manager at your local Waffle Shop if he/she likes honey. lol
Yep SpiretBear12 is correct Get 2 cheese press, one for honey one for wax, Then put your cheese cloth, Panty Hoses, Nylon Socking , or screen in it a press it out, same with the wax Cocoons ect. there still a lot of wax in the cocoons and to keep the wax from setting up put the press under steam or a steam box press it out, IDK why but wax from the Cocoons ect. is more yellow Then break up the cocoons and feed it to your chickens or a fire starter
628DirtRooster
yes my friend, it will help on the cost of the feed and the chickens love it... I like to be creative and thinking of making a big one out of a 4 ton cheap log splitter to smash the honey comb down and the wax cocoons he heee Thanks For Your Video's I always enjoy them
I really enjoy your channel, you seem so laid back and down to earth.
+Ron Stewart Keeping an even keel Ron. ;)
I buy netting cloth and lay it under the comb on top of a rack so the wax can melt and filter through the netting; no scooping required. About an inch of water in the bottom so the wax will float above the water for removal.
Shea /she's/ butter is processed from karite, nuts and the same way the beeswax is produced. It only smells bad to people who aren't used to natural smells. That much honey and wax from one give is fabulous! I'm researching beeping I love honey and she's butter. Honey is getting too expensive! I think I could produce my own the same way I grow some of my own food. Thanks for the video.
+flanmaryj Some of the shea butter I bought has sat for over a year and a half (in a climate controlled environment of course). It's still good which surprises me since the reading I did before buying it says it has a shelf life of about nine months.
Your channel is so cool. Thank you for sharing. This beekeeping business is definitely a full time job. I hope that you are able to turn a little profit considering all the work that you do.
I do turn a profit but it's till just a hobby/sideline.
Have you ever thought about using a Templeton Bee slumgum press? The slumgum (the black goop) is loaded with wax and can be pressed till its all out.
Never heard of it.
hey I saw a good video on you tube for rendering wax and it is a simple and novel idea. Don't know if you have seen it but it is worth watching. Appears to eliminate a good portion of the mess and leaves you with wax that with just a little effort can be very clean wax. The video is by Way Out West it is out of Western Ireland and they use a box an old pillow case and steam. Just thought you might appreciate the approach, it really looks likes a time saver. Gonna pass it on to Mr.Ed too.
I want some of your honey not that over filtered honey
Ooooh boy, that's makin my blood sugar rise just seein it the bucket!
Use to get local honey still in the comb and chew on it as a kid, talk about a sweet treat!
Lovin your vids, keep'um comin!
Thanks for watching Wildman.
could you use something like a meat grinder (the kind that would make hamburger) and run it through that instead of doing it by hand???
Nice video, rendering wax looks like a slow process. That is a food grade bucket. You can tell by the mold marks on the bottom. HDPE High Density PolyEthelene, and the 2 inside the recycle triangle. Same material used in milk jugs, cottage cheese, sour cream, yogurt containers. Check the marks on any of those food grade containers, they will be the same as your bucket. Most plastic containers will have mold marks and a number inside a triangle indicating the types of plastics. Number 1 PET polyethelene terephthalate, used mostly in soda and water bottles. 3 PVC, polyvinyl chloride, plastic water pipe. 4 LDPE Low Density Poly Ethelene, etc.
Very interesting to know. I still have that same honey in that same bucket. Well, there's only about half a bucket left. My wife robs it sometimes.
Yea well wives, can't live with em, can't live without em. lol Check the markings on that bucket and compare to the one you make your mead in, they'll be the same. I've yet to find a 5 gal type bucket that wasn't food grade, even dry wall mud and paint come in those buckets. Not that I'd recommend storing honey or making mead in an old drywall bucket.
LOL Might make your honey a little gritty.
We would use cheese cloth to filter the wax from the honey. I don't think it's possible to get all of the wax but it settles to the top of the jar anyways so no biggie. The paint filters may be a cheaper option for the same job filtering though. Love the channel and the in depth view of things.
Thanks for the nice comment Grant.
Mash the comb in the bucket and the strain thru a paint strainer. Then you have removed 98% wax so you can then use a double filter to clean it up.
By the way love ya vids mate, all the from Australia. 👍
That was an awesome vid man. I have learned so much from you, and I really appreciate your time bro.
J
It's mutual dude. Thanks for commenting.
love this channel, to see the honey pour out the comb . maybe you could make a simple pressing machine to press the honey out of the black wax
We have an old apple press
Why did the honey and comb not get over run with wax moth larvae after you left it sitting for 5 days? I left some freshly extracted frames sitting in a plastic tub in the house once, and they were spewing with wax moth larvae after 4or 5 days. Never made that mistake again.
I bought that same Shae Butter and also cocoa butter from Amazon. How has your lotions turned out? Ive started making lip balms and wound salves. Testing the wound salve I made with a ginger, rosemary and propolis infused oil. It is working out nicely.
I made a small batch but didn't use this shea butter. Happy to say though the shelf life on this stuff is way beyond what anyone told me it would be. Stuff is two years old and still looks and smells fine.
You can buy sheets of that wire mesh like that basket and make you a lining you can just pick up out of the melted wax as a whole strainer. Might be easier than straining with that little handheld scoop.
There are lots of ways. We use a 55 gal drum when we have a lot to do.
I just got done doing this with some winter surplus. The honey is nice and DARK! My daughter asked to help cuz it looked fun. lol. I told her we were doing the dirt rooster method.
+kckrye LOL Did she want to know how you were going to get the feathers out of it?
+628DirtRooster she looked at me and said...who is Dirt Rooster. I said he is one of my favorite youtube beekeepers. Lol.😂 I found warming it up before you squeeze it makes it so much easier.
kckrye Good idea I never thought of that. I have 7 buckets waiting to be crushed.
+628DirtRooster I'm finishing up now. I have my last squares on the tray in the oven on warm. Good stuff! Those bees know what they are doing!
Fantastic, kind of makes it all worth while going and getting those cut-outs, I think bee wax smells so good I bought a chunk of it just to sit on my desk so I could smell it..lol I must be addicted. Thanks for sharing your process.
You are gonna end up in rehab for huffing wax. LOL
Love your channel 😊
It's so hard to find honey with the comb in it nowadays. Just found this channel today. Makes me wanna keep some bees.
Thanks. Yeah, comb honey is rare outside of some mom and pop operations.
I have a waiting list for comb honey. I won't package and sell it if it isn't great stuff. They'll just have to wait.
Man I could sell all the comb honey I could get my hands on. That stuff in in high demand.
Is comb honey a special comb or something? Why couldnt you use the good tender coms you had as comb homey?
Rick Fountain comb honey is usually packed in clear plastic or glass so esthetics are important. it should first use wax and full corner to corner.
I have also heard that there are some places that will buy your slumgum. might want to think about storing it up till you get a good amount of it then sell it.
Been feeding it to the chickens or just throwing it away.
Is it true that honey has natural preservatives in it that keep it from spoiling as long as it's well stored? I've always heard that if you left honey in a sealed jar or bottle, it will preserve itself virtually forever.
+Furball That is true.
628DirtRooster That's awesome, thanks for the reply, love your channel!
I'd eat the whole thing. It's covered in honey! YUMMY!!!
NLDT STUDIOS Good stuff for a fact.
jesusneverexisted300 I can't squeeze out all the honey and they get what I can't.
+628DirtRooster uuum can u make beehive out of those wax? comb or whatever u called it? can u mold it?
Roni Doria You can melt it down and pour it into a mold or let it harden and carve it into whatever you want.
+628DirtRooster I wonder if you could use some sort of object to sandwich items up against the strainers then you could apply force on top of the object to speed up the straining process (in both making wax and honey.)
Thanks, I was gonna have a bean and cheese burrito for supper....now, I think I'll have a salad....
I love watching your videos they are great
You are so kind
Gosh I dont have the patience to fo something like this. Such a satisfying result but man I think I would lose mind doing it all by hand
That honey looks beautiful! I can't believe there was so much honey in that one hive. Was that a record for you?
Nope, not a record. The record for us would be around 15 gallons or so after straining.
I'm old school. What does not kill me makes me stronger. An if you say its OK to eat it right out of the comb wax an all I won't argue. It looks good to me. Thank You Loader.
I have no experience in bee keeping or anything like this... but I am interested... Would it be easier to gently heat the comb/honey til it all melts and separates? Then you wouldn't have to squeeze it. I imagine there is a good reason why this isn't possible. It was just a thought : ]
I does work like that but heat also damages the honey. Most grocery store honey is pasteurized (heated to make it safe). At that point it is no longer "raw" and the health benefit you get from it is practically gone. It is easier to extract if it is warm rather than cold though.
Wow thats alot of honey cool vid my friend! :)
Tip for you. Out a turkey oven bag to line the turkey cooker so you don't have so much clean up.
I'll have to try that. Thanks
Would really like to see more videos like this one :)
so... I have an abandoned hive complete with wax moth... hmm... presents... I've cleaned up all the webbing I can. Can I render the rest of the wax that still has some wax moth trails? It smells ok like normal happy hive wax... not sure why they left...
You can. All the trash will strain out.
have you thought about using hand operated apple/cider press?
Done it. Doesn’t work very well.
oh well, you could always try stomping, just don't tell anyone you used your feet to get the honey out lol
@@paulleyland My wife wouldn't let me. :)
Wouldn't it be easier to use some kind of press to extract the honey ? Like a old manual printing press.
We have an apple press but it's just as much work.
Another good video. Thanks for the shout out, too.
Yeah man. Thanks for the ideas on the home made products.
the wax is bright yellow? thats litttttt
Funny how black it is in liquid form here.
i might be wrong but wouldnt some sort of press like something simple a couple plates one with edges and the other a little smaller that fits inside with two handles be able to press out the harder pieces? Imagine two old style stove top irons attached together with a hinge and square instead of a triangle. I dont know might not make a difference but might work.
We've got some old fruit presses but they are more trouble than they're worth. A press would probably make it easier for someone without the strength to squeeze by hand.
Ah I see that makes sense thanks for the comment!
What exactly is that "junk" you were straining out of the wax?
That was a bunch of old comb so it was mold, pollen, larvae, propolis and so on.
Thanks for the action! Good video as usual. Since this honey is from an unknown hive (cutout) are you nota little concerned that the hive might have had a viral infection carried by mites? I might feed it to a single hive via top feeder in a hive that is off by itself so drift and robbing would not be an issue. But I would worry about a free-for-all feeding binge.
I don't worry about it. If the hive it came from looks like it has problems I'll just throw everything in the melter and let the heat do the work.
tractor supply sells food grade buckets. all the ones with the logo are food grade cause its for feed
that stuff looks really good! dumb question is that different then like store bought honey ?
are you on 3 acres? how do you make your bees stay on your property with flowers that are healthy? most flowers you buy have pesticides on them. the pesticides last 5 years, you can't wash them off. is your honey safe to eat? does it have pesticide residues?
Sandy Rowley We are on more than three acres but bees forage for miles so the ecology of the area is more important than just what is on our property. Our bees work wild flowers. None of our bees are on crops except maybe a mom and pop garden here and there so I can say with certainty that there are no pesticides in our honey.
your right! you can't make those little bees stay in their own yard.lol. but they do forage up to 3 miles. make sure the flowers you buy as well as the seeds are certified organic OR your feeding your bees pollen/nectar with pesticides in them. most seeds, flowers, plants and trees you buy are treated with neonics a type of pesticide that lasts up to 6 years on the plant, you cannot wash the pesticide off. it has to wear off. thanks for responding. ;)
Sandy Rowley Thanks Sandy. We stay pretty up to speed on systemic pesticides and I root almost everything I plant from cuttings. Any seeds I buy are heirloom so no worries here.
I watched this and was thinking how maybe I wouldn't mind looking after bees, hey it's maybe not a career I was told about at school but it looks therapeutic and that honey looks fine!
+SM JungleTaktikz Oh, I don't like stings so much though...
+SM JungleTaktikz Therapeutic is a good word for it. It can be work sometimes but is a good hobby.
+SM JungleTaktikz You will get stung. How much depends on how much protection you wear and how careful you are. Typically someone who suits up all the time hardly ever gets stung.
What micron filter (200 , 400?) did you use below the bag paint filter?
I could put my mouth under that tap 😂😂😂😂
+Caroline LOL
Holy moly that's a lot of honey!
Good stuff too
Ok now this is something I must try. Amazing how you do this. TH-cam is an amazing resource where you find your next project.
Now to learn about bees. I am off to the interwebs!
There is plenty of opportunity if you know where to look. Jump in man.
628DirtRooster Need to school up for a while and figure out if I am allergic to bees. Haven't been stung in 40 years .... don't need surprises at my age.
I'm enjoying your videos. What do the chickens do with the wax waste?
They eat it. I think they are half chicken half goat.
What do you do with the comb that has bee larva? Also, how do you choose comb fit to be squeezed into honey? Besides filtering the honey a few times, do you need to add anything else to it in order for it to be consumed? Or is it edible just as it is?
Thanks! Keep the videos coming!
We take the comb with larvae and put it in frames and into the box with the bees so they can continue to grow and all hatch out.
We will squeeze out and strain any honey that is not full of small debris such as drywall dust or fiberglass insulation particles. We feed any "dirty" honey back to our bees unless the comb we cut out was sprayed with a pesticide. We dispose of anything that has been sprayed.
Honey is ready to eat straight out of the hive. Sometimes it does not even have to be strained, just squeezed out of the comb.
You've said before that your honey is some of the best. Is there a place we can buy/order some if we're out of state?
Not yet but if that happens I'll let everyone know.
I recently started watching your channel and that's all I've been watching everyday for past 3 weeks. Would luv to buy some honey when u start selling. Hope u will ship to NY.
it looks so good I want to try it right from the hive like you did with the honey tower comb
Really good stuff.
@628DirtRooster I really liked this video. Really hope you're doing well, haven't seen a video from you in quite a while. Just wanting to check-in.
You should do a complete tutorial on how to clean your honey
I do need to do that.
+628DirtRooster yah because I am 14 and thinking about getting into beekeeping but need some tutorials.
Michael Lundgren Perfect rainy day video.
if anyone doesn't like your buckets, they can go to the supermarket. we all know how much large corporations care.
Ain't that the truth.
I use a hand crank meat grinder when extracting by hand then filter it through the nylon paint strainer
Could you just bite into the comb with the honey? Or is it all waxy and not safe to eat?
Check out my most recent video.
You should make some beeswax candles with that wax.
Have you thought about using a fruit press for the comb?
Done it. Doesn't work well.
@@628DirtRooster I’m surprised. That’s what I’ve used for the comb from the few cutouts I’ve done.
Thanks for taking the time to reply!
Do you ever use a solar melter on the wax to turn it white as the sun bleaches it?
+Penfold8 I used to have a solar melter that I designed to fit on the dashboard of my truck. I worked pretty good but there was no bleaching. Sunlight wasn't directly on the wax.
have u ever spilled a shitload of honey indoors? I bet that sucks to clean up too
No but I spilled a whole gallon of sugar water down through the cook top in our kitchen and into the cabinets.
Wouldn't it be nice if TH-cam came up with a way (for all I know, there is! But....) to flush trolls and 'keyboard commandos' that exist only to find fault with every little thing that THEY think they know better about...or have enough free time (not spent on porn sites) to look for opportunities to split hairs!!
Love your channel, Randy, and I subscribe to yours (and Jeff's) because I'm learning from you...and because you seem like good people...and because, well, you're entertaining as hell in the process!! Thanks for the great content! :-)
Thanks so much for the sub Norm. Until technology catches up we'll have to deal with trolls one at a time. :)
Good info thanks for posting bro.And thanks for the link to pops shack,man he has got some stuff going on.
Thanks man, yeah he's into a little of everything.
I had some guys at my house a couple of days ago from the coast, that said they think they know you .They were my cabinet installers . Did y'all used.to cars?
***** Race cars
Small world. Me and my brother have been racing since we could drive. Mostly drag racing but some circle track.
I would order honey mead in a heartbeat. Can only get it from the renaissance festival once a year.
Never been to one of those but a friend took some we made to one and he said it got rave reviews.
I'd like to know if you can eat honey straight from the hive. I wanna know if you can eat the wax, pollen, etc, altogether and how it would taste like.
Yes you can eat all of the above straight from the hive. The only real flavor the wax has comes from the honey that's in it. Most people spit the wax out after chewing it for a bit but it won't hurt you if you swallow it. Not many people do this but you can eat pollen straight from the hive. People pay big money for pollen but it's usually collected through the use of a gadget that knocks the pollen off the bee's legs as they are entering the hive. Much of the comb with pollen also has brood so you'll want to be selective if you try eating comb with pollen. Pollen tastes different from different sources but we have some dry pollen that tastes like rosemary to me. I tasted some on the video linked below.
Possum In The Bee Feeder
628DirtRooster I heard that Sampson, in the Holy Bible, ate directly from a bee-hive so, I was wonder how "wild honey" or unprocessed honey, would taste like. If there is a difference in wild honey and other types, I simply don't know the difference.
White_Knight_Zigmund That's a fact. He ate honey out of the carcass of a lion that he had killed previously. I don't think I would have wanted any of his honey.
Honey tastes different during different seasons and in different areas. Most companies name the crop that they think the bulk of it came from such as Orange Blossom and Clover. There are a lot of them.
628DirtRooster I meant "read" not heard but, what ever,
I have a lot of questions concerning bees and it would be cool if you could answer them.
I was also wondering if queen bees are replaced as a orderly and peaceful process or if they're killed, to replace the older queen bee. In conjunction with this, like a pride with two male lions, can two queen bees coexist in a hive or is it purely a monarchy?
White_Knight_Zigmund I guess I should clarify that "wild honey" only means that the source of the nectar may be unknown or just from a variety of plants.
If a hive decides to get rid of a queen they will kill her. Once in a great while a hive can have two queens but it is very rare.
Queens can last several years but they move around through a process called swarming which is when the hive outgrows a space and the old queen takes basically half the colony and leaves. This leaves the new queen to take over the existing hive.
Would the honey strain faster if it were hotter?
much faster
👍 Amazing stuff. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching.
The only people who really make a big deal about "food grade" stuff, are the people who don't really understand the science and legislation behind such claims... bit of an old video but thanks for sharing =)
Thanks for your time to watch and comment Alex.
Could you of use a potato masher instead to crush the comb?
+Ashanti Wright You can on new comb but it doesn't work that great on old comb.
wow. You really had to work for that honey. hahah
So, how would it taste if you just ate the comb with everything on it?
+Sir Boxed Wine Tastes like honey. Unless you mean eating brood too. Never tried that.
628DirtRooster Okay, thank for the information.
It's fascinating - the work of Honeybees (colony building and the [amount of] Honey and its comb produced)). There are many reasons (besides pollination) it would be a big loss without Bees.
+nleeks12 Yes sir! I think we'll always have them though.
+628DirtRooster There unfortunate thing is that the most aggressive species (Africanized) are resistant to mites, whereas the gentle species (European) are not.
nleeks12 Shame it's not the other way around.
+628DirtRooster Certainly is.
I love Shea butter body products!
If you press the slum gum in the strainer a lot of wax will come out
I love honey and I'm kinda thinking that I might try beekeeping my self but I'm only 19 years old and not on my own yet. I've been watching lots of your videos and I do enjoy watching them (^_^)
Don't let that stop you. There are some 11 and 12 year old boys keeping bees pretty close by here.
+628DirtRooster I will not let it stop me but I'm thinking of waiting until I get my own house before I endup getting a beehive of my own.
so when you sharing your mead recipe?
I't very simple. 1.5 gal honey, 3.5 gal water, one pack of red star yeast in the red or yellow packet.
Do you sell your honey locally? I am in your area. I noticed familiar landmarks on your video. Looking for local honey to help with allergies.
Hi Teresa
My dad sells his honey several places from Ocean Springs to Long Beach. If you see a "Stinger Juice" label that's his.
Sir Dirt.... just curious, where are y'all? couldn't find any references to your location...;)
Dawn Kladerman South Mississippi
Thanks for an interesting channel... I love bees!
That honey sure did look good running into your strainer nets I would love to have some how much is your honey
How do you strip the junk from the back of the good wax? Bondo Sure form planer ? lol
+Smokeydabee Charles Coleman I'm going to give you the "secret" trick that I discovered by accident. Once the wax sets and is solid enough to remove from the warmer but is still kind of soft you can stand a 4" putty knife on edge and clean the whole thing off in about five seconds.
I always love your videos!!!
Thanks man. That's very kind of you to say. Thanks for watching.
big hall of honey n wax , that's alot of good learn en bro thanks !
Thanks Tony. Keep it real bro.
mead? I want to try some MEAD! I keep hearing about it in Viking type movies, and video games, but I don't think I've ever tried MEAD! Can I get it online?
There are online stores that sell it.