Wow this is a great video, it is scary how accurate the super clones are, I remember reading on the replica forums that they rather invest in something like land or real estate or something that has a higher ROI and get a replica/super clone of a watch, even though they can afford the gen one. Very interesting times we live it, and it's scary how you weren't able to discern the gen to the super clone one when your kids took it to play with it, that's how good their getting. Thanks for the video, cheers from Switzerland.
I have to mention for the rep-haters who are surely in this thread. I own several quite valuable gens and for most of them I also own a rep as a "decoy" that I can wear out when I'm worried I might get a little out of shape or get robbed etc. Also they stay in a prominent position in my home whilst the gens are hidden away. This is the first time I've been able to own a rep 5712 that is anything like the gen, and it's pretty impressive.
What you are saying is an exact echo to what I have been talking about in the replies. Almost everyone in my circle has a super clone to shadow their investment. Well said
I invest my money in other business, it’s too expensive to own these watch, well but it’s still too good to be true that owning some rep and wear for fun. Not really big deal if hater starting hate 🎉
@Account2 that question needs to be more specific. There are thousands of different brands and styles of watches, there are .any different levels of super clones. Reddit has a good watch forum and discussion to read thru and help you sort out what you like or want. I had a specific need for a super clone replica of a watch that I own. Hence, I used this company as they were the only ones who created this model. The website is listed in the written description of this video. However, again, I am not affiliated with the site. If you read thru the comments, other people have purchased from them and documented their own experiences here in the comments.
One easy way to discern the real from the rep is taking a look at the balance assembly, most luxury watches balance the wheel via adjustable weights on the wheel which takes a lot of time and expertise. To cut down on the manufacturing time to balance the wheels they use a more common balance arm that is easier to adjust but also is pretty well disguised. But if you are comparing them side by side you'll see the little arm right away.
Good call, but also the engraving is merely printed not engraved properly. The weight is too light (not gold) so it doesn't wind itself properly. Bigger than all that... It's 9mm thick, where the genuine is just 8.52mm, and the difference shows in the thickness of the bezel and is very obvious once you know.
@peetiegonzalez1845 It is actually engraved, and it's 8.76mm, which, when in a momentary panic, looks the same. This super clone has, I believe, has tungsten in it, so the weight is about the same, but the balance of the two watches feels slightly different. The site I purchased from is listed in the written description of the video. This is a version 2 "pre-production" that is made per order. Now that the dust is settled, it's a great substitute when I want to wear it in a less than secure environment. Best insurance investment I've made for peace of mind to overlay actual insurance.
@@watchornot3691 I have one in my hand right now. It is a V2 purchased from intime, made by the factory known by its acronym PPF. I don't know what you're on about with this pre-production V2 thing. They are not made to order, they sell plenty of these watches and are very well known to collectors. I have digital calipers and I can assure you It's 9mm thick, despite the factory claiming 8.8mm. I also have a good loupe and a microscope. It's not engraved, it is at best laser etched (just checked, the factory does indeed confirm it's laser etched). Compared to my gen it's quite obvious. I wish the weight was tungsten filled, although I'm sure lead would be cheaper and sufficiently heavy. This one clearly is not, it doesn't wind itself adequately when worn. You are correct in stating that these differences are so minor it takes a good eye and a close inspection to spot them, but to say you'd mistake it for the genuine when you have both in your hands would just be silly. It's clearly different, and once you know the difference, you would spot it immediately. EDIT: I appreciate your "momentary panic" was before you learned these subtle differences. I don't think you'll be so worried if it happens again.
I’m surprised that you have a real one but didn’t know that the power reserve was empty. No offence, I’ll believe your story when you actually post the real watch 😂
Anti reflet sur verre saphir intérieur extérieur sur la vrai et il n y a pas de côte de Genève sur le mouvement de la 5712 très mauvaise réplique et tant mieux
Thank you for uploading this video. I own a bunch of expensive watches and I found this whole super clone industry last year. The one area where I feel they are lacking is always in the weight and feel of the bracelet. What was your experience with the bracelet of this Patek? Did it have the same feel as your gen?
I've got a Rolex 116610 and purchased a replica of the exact same watch so I can wear it in less "safe" places without fear of having my gen stolen, and I've run into similar issues with determining the real vs the fake. To resolve that, I've written down the S/N of the real one, so I can always determine which is which without needing to try to look for "tells"/etc.
I love these new superclones. I have a 5711 from PPF and a genuine 5712. Unfortunately with prices as they are right now, i.e. both 5711 and 5712 going for well over $100k at auction, the genuine is more of a liability at this point, so I'm selling it. I might get this clone just to have as a curio at home.
@karagelo Via RWI its Intime. Ps watch arrived! It looks fucken stunning! The only issue (not related to watch) is that its slimmer than the average watches so its better on wrists that are less than 17cm in circumference.
Was your AD able to tell the difference with with naked eye? I have had a rep the dealer had to disassemble the movement to look for engravings on the plates and parts.
I saw one and did not know what it was. I fell in love with the style. I knew it was something famous. When the aliexpress woman showed the name I grabbed it. Now I realized the female one cost 100k
is yours engraved on the back or printed with the "patek" etc. the new clones are coming with printing, wanted to know if it looks as bad as it sounds, thanks
Hey thanks for the review. Did you expect to get QC pics or did they just send them unprompted? And did you know before hand which factory this came from? And were you worried at all about your credit card's security?
I am always worried about my credit card security period. I expected QC pics and on their website they list which factory every watch is made in. If you have specific questions I'd ask Ryan at intimewatches. I do plan to buy a few more, but I have not had the time to reduce my choices down to the top 4. It's a rabbit hole of fascination, comparing them to some originals I have and others I want but do not think they will hold value etc.
@@watchornot3691 their selection of the platinum Daytonas with baguette 💎 dials and bezels are superb . It’s solid 904L not hollow but still not going to weigh the same for sure . A 112g stainless steel watch will weigh like 270g if platinum. Only thing I’m concerned about . But the stainless steel models are great . I stay away from gold replicas just because of the obvious reasons. Constant replating , doesn’t weigh the same. Doesn’t look the same until you have it replated with multiple coats
QC pics are a standard procedure while buying such a replica. Client has to approve the watch he gets, he can say he doesn't like the watch (alignments, details, anything) and is provided with another watch QC - until he is completely satisfied with the watch.
Great question, the gen is smoother and slightly quieter whereas the replica feels fine but sounds drier or crispy? That's being critical but in truth it's hardly noticeable. Maybe I'm not the best person to ask, as I have had hearing loss since a teenager. This will be part of the compare/ contrast video of two watches however again I will state that I am not a media content creator and it will be filmed mostly with my phone...
Easy to tell the difference just wind them, the original makes no sound the fake makes a scratchy sound which is easily herd in ur first video. Still would love to see them side by side....
Just made a purchase from intime 24hr ago for a sub and no response. I’m sure I bought from the right website- how long did you have to wait to get the order confirmed? Insane how good clones are now would be cool to do an update video on this piece and if it is still working. Cheers
The website is listed in the written description of the video. If you just made a purchase, then to clarify, they sent you an invoice with instructions to go to watch parts website and "buy" parts to equal the amount you were given in the invoice? I am surprised they are even open as it's the most popular time of the year in China (February 11th don't they take an entire week off?) Keep posting updates here, I will be curious to hear about your experience. I have noticed that they normally update their website at least once a week, and it has not changed in a month. I started a new job back in December so I have stayed incredibly busy!
I really wanted to ask you questions about the website you bought this watch on bc I did some research to make sure this site is legit and many people are saying its a scam so I was wondering if I could contact you somehow and ask you some questions.
Question: How do you have the exact same watch that is genuine, but weren't sure how to open the clasp, or knew to unscrew the screw-down crown instead of pulling.. in your previous video? Just curious, because I'm a little confused as to whether the replica is designed differently, or I'm missing something.
@@watchornot3691 Great, I see! Are you still doing a side by side comparison? We're all eagerly waiting and excited to see them side by side, since now one has done it yet.
@Prism I have 2 more watches inbound by my A.D., I want to secure my investments before posting any more videos regarding super clones as this has upset my A.D. I would rather maintain my good relationships that took years to develop than post a comparison video and lose the allocation spot. It's frustrating as I feel like I should have the right to show people how incredibly close these two are and where they have obvious discrepancies. Yet it has been spelled out that in no uncertain terms, my removal from the annual allocation is certain if I post any footage from what I shot accepting my 5712 and making comparisons. I do not need to create content, I do need to, at the very least, take delivery of my next two pieces in 2023. After that, I will re-evaluate what I am comfortable showing. The most important piece of information I can share is, if you ever work your way into a relationship with an A.D. and are able to secure pieces that you like and want to invest in. Make sure you can get a super clone as insurance to wear in unsecured locations. Clearly familiarize yourself with insurance policies and make sure you are covered in multiple situations in said policy. I am looking forward to sharing at a minimum of two more pieces by the end of this year.
Looks really nice, like your video style and commentary. If you were offered three times the cost,why didn’t you sell it, buy another which would basically be free?
Good points, but sitting in the shop at the time I felt that I didn't want either watch to leave my site and I wanted to make sure both stayed with me. I told the person where I purchased it from and let him buy one himself to do with what he liked. I do not want to sell the replica because I would not want to be a part of anyone purposely being deceived down the line as it trades hands. Also, there is a reason I want to keep it, and years down the line if I do sell there will be a reason to include it with the real one. I have learned a few things in my inner circle about why to keep a replica around. I will try to touch on that in my third and final video
@@watchornot3691 What's the reason you'd want to keep the replica around? Me personally I'm considering to wearing them at areas that are not safe to wear pieces like that or at times I'd want to wear my watches but I know the places I'd be going to would make me forget about the watch or getting the watch banged up.
I might have to get one of these. How long can they last? The only rep I got was when I went to China from a street vendor in Beijing. It fell apart in like 2 months, but I didn’t pay much
Fascinating video mate. I am considering getting a fake platinum Daytona. I love the real watch and am very happy with it but I’m very careless and likely to scratch the bracelet or lose it. Fakes have come a long way. Hope you do make more videos, interesting info. Good content
@@g1i2o3p4a5s what’s so hard to believe. I have a super globe Batman oyster and a real one. Given the way the uk is, people are getting mugged for watches.
Hey there ! just checking in, how is the watch after a year of use so far ? Beautiful watch again man, even for a super clone, its quite still expensive for me to afford haha, maybe one day !
@georgehafner7901 The watch has been flawless. The site I listed in the written description has actually updated this model to a version 3 or 2.5 since I purchased this one. I do not wear this watch much. Most events are secure enough to wear my Gen, so I've only worn this maybe 3 times this year, once for a 3 day event.
@@watchornot3691 I look forward to it and thanks for doing these videos; I myself just purchased a 5726/1a-014 from a grey dealer recently, and while I have vast confidence in this dealer, your video somehow still stunned me because how real the watch, the box, and even the booklets and certificate of origin look, these replicas nowadays are just too scarily close to 1:1, at least on videos. Thanks again for the video!
dial wise, it's hard to tell. I think, in this case, the brushing on a real 5712 bezel is much more fine, and smooth. I looked at the site, and since the OP of this video never showed a movement, the real PP has way better finishing, deeper and more prominent engraving. Deeper and nicer Geneva stripes, and finer, better defined perlage. I'm personally having a hard time thinking that if you have both in hand, that you cannot tell the difference between the 2, even without a loupe. Even a good pair of reading glasses can tell. But on someone else's wrist? Only thing I would notice is the brush finishing, and even then, I'd have to be close. th-cam.com/video/9TWVItdymOc/w-d-xo.html is a good example.
Right..why did you not just check the reference numbers on the back and marry them up to the certificate? I'm surprised any AD would even touch a clone especially Patek..plus find it weird they would offer to Buy a clone. Thierry Stern would be shocked that a AD is buying clones!!!
YIKES!! I have not paid attention to the count at all. I try to respond to anyone that directly asks me a question because replies are simple and I want to encourage community conversations. It will be a while before I can edit the multiple videos together, I've asked the help of a friend who works for a national News agency. I am hoping he can help with editing. Maybe I should post other content with a few of the other watches in my collection.
This is the basic clone , the super clone extra is comes with free sprung balance wheel and true 22k gold rotor just like the genuine one but it is costs like 3k$
So 1 year later. I did not wear the watch for some time. I put it on a winder. Shows full power but it does not work anymore. I winded it mor-nochange. I don´t know what to do!
This happened to me, I cannot keep the watch on a winder. It over winds the watch. Take it off and let it run off some power for 2 or 3 weeks. That worked for me
I have had it for almost a year, and everything functions perfectly. I left it on an auto watch winder while on holiday, and it wound the power reserve too tight, and it stopped working. I took it off and let the power reserve spring wind down for a month, back to full function when I wind it up
Hi Today I received my watch I bought it the same way as you The watch is working and looking good There is no manual I don’t know how the moon phase is working Can you help me out
It works exactly like the genuine. I went to Patek Phillipe website and they have a calendar and instructions on how to set it. It's very easy! Congratulations on your purchase. If you do not have an auto watch winder, I would recommend grabbing one for this piece. Check back in with an update. Mine is still working perfectly
Hey sorry for the random comment but I noticed your part 1 video was no where to be found, I actually was planning to go back to watch part 1 because I found the unboxing interesting, did you perhaps taken it down ? Cheers !
It did get taken down?!! I don't see it in my library. Actually, I do not see 3 watch videos at this point. Crazy, but fascinating. If I were a content creator, I would probably care, but I am curious as to why. I will look into it to see if there is some reason. Thanks for the heads up
Nice video Part 1 and 2. My only question I have for you is related to the power reserve indicator. Can you please let me know if your watch shows 0% on the indicator when the watch stops. On some of the PPF models of 5712 the indicator still showed 30 hours remaining but the watch stopped. Please check and let me know. The version 2 of the PPF which I think you got is really quite good as a clone. Thank you
Power reserve indicator shows zero or ends at the three red dots. Fully functional. The site I purchased it from is listed in the written description of the video
Thank you for the quick reply. Great to hear that all the functions work as described. I also noticed from your first video that you bought a box too. Would you say the box is great, good, or fair quality? I also have the real Patek and I noticed they didn't give you the black tool that comes with the original watch to change the date and moon phase. Just not sure if I should get the box as well. Thank you again.
@speedracer2111 The box was a curiosity. It is garbage, to be honest. I wanted to see what it was for the price, I'm not disappointed because I had no expectations, but I would not use it to show anyone, and insurance would never see it.
The bracelet was a little tight on the clasp for the first 10 pulls. Now it's perfect. It's as comfortable as my Gen and does not pull out any arm hair.
Can you tell me if the texture of the moon is different from the original? Also the spindle the hands are connected to, are they different such as the real version is gold and the replica is bronze or a different color? I assume they are the same if when your daughters took them you could not tell them apart unless you did not remember the differences.
Did you have to go through another website to pay? Just wondering what the return policy is like if something goes wrong. But I couldn't pay them directly for the watch.
Yes, I purchased thru a watch parts site, only after I ordered my watch and received an invoice number. It's been a while, but the instructions were very easy to follow. I never thought about a return policy on buying replica watches, but let me know what you find out, hahaha. If any replica watch company actually has a return policy that has been verified by customers, that would be pretty solid.
@@watchornot3691 Thank you for your reply. I just found it to be odd that we had to pay through a third party site. They told me returns would be at my expense and 20% restocking if I didnt like it, but if the watch is bad they would waive the restocking but from the looks of it you got a great time piece. I'll pass on the box because of your suggestion. Did they give you the black pin pusher?
I did eventually after the panick subsided. After recounting this funny story to my AD on the phone, they wanted to see it and asked me to bring it in.
I ordered it, they sent me an invoice with instructions to go to a site and order "watch parts" totaling the same amount as the invoice. I used my PayPal if I remember correctly and then waited a few months as this watch was a pre order.
These "super clones" may be the term used now but the quality of these clone watches have been amazing for awhile. My friend about ten years ago bought some clones...a Tag, a Panerai, and a Rolex sub...and the quality was just amazing. I was blown away back then. The finishing and the craftsmanship were top notch. He actually brought his Rolex to an AD friend and the he was totally fooled for awhile...but eventually he figured out it was a clone. But his friend was very very impressed. Back then clones were going for around 200-500 bucks depending on the movement crystal and casing. I never wanted a clone. To many good watches at affordable prices to enjoy than spend monies on a clone. I always say if you can afford it get the real thing. If not buy something else. With the explosion of microbrands there are now a plethora of options to chose from! Beautiful well made options!
I have not had this issue at all. Are you saying you have the pre-order version two super clone of the 5712 from the site I listed in the written description of the video? Curious indeed!
I buy and sell authentic rolexes and i want to buy a rolex from the website you linked to see what the difference is between a real day date and a super clone, is it safe to order from the website or should i not order?
I am not affiliated with the website, I went thru my own due diligence and cross-referenced the site on reddit as a trusted replica dealer. All of that checked out for me, but my experience is mine and not others. I could have easily had the watch taken by customs. It's a risk everyone takes when purchasing from any replica dealer that no one should be in denial about. It took me over two months to go thru the pre-order and purchasing process until it was delivered. Again, this was my experience being shipped to me in my country. It would vary for anyone else, I'm sure. Will I buy from them again? Absolutely, but not until I have a real watch that I want a second piece as insurance. I wouldn't call the transaction safe,but are they a reliable website? Yes, based on my experience and multiple feedback on reddit.
@@ashleysteinbach8779 No, i asked them to send pictures on some of the watches and like 1-2 days after they started calling me 4-5 times a day to make me order and i found that kinda sketchy so i never ordered
You are right. It's been almost a year already?! The watch has been a perfect substitute to wear in high-risk areas. Being that this is a 2nd version, the thickness difference is imperceptible when worn on the wrist. The weight is just about spot on. It keeps time for 2 days on the power reserve, moon phase works, and that detailing is where the separation between the two can be discerned. I had one issue when I left it on an auto winder while away on holiday, and it wound up too tight and jammed. I left it alone for a month, and the power spring let out all energy, and I wound it up, and it works perfectly again. Outside of that, no issues. I have worn it to spring training baseball games in Scottsdale AZ(big watch community) but also a large theft targeted event. I took it to a Seattle golf event and once to an unscouted F.P. Journe event in Miami with a disclosure to a close friend that it was a clone.
Yea but if you have a real one , your box will show you your serial which will be on the watch , and trust me once you look closely you can tel pateks work
I hear you, right!?? This guy....he's all talk. Oh wait, that's me. I'm that guy haha. A glimpse of my life as someone who is NOT a TH-cam content creator....I was in Microsoft Teams meetings all day with clients until 6:30pm. Ran to the car, picked up my 3yr old from daycare, flew thru a drive thru and fed her. Speed home, potty, bath, brush teeth, book and bed. Catch up with the rest of the family and now it's late, I have no energy to continue on. My hang ups are clear, I have video of my deliver from the authorized dealer, they verbally agreed to release rights to use pre approved snippets of my experience (which has been lovely) but now the owner will not sign a release and I would prefer to maintain my good standing with my A.D. as I have two more pieces inbound that I have ordered, paid for and waited years to receive. I also have not taken the time to edit clips in to create an overall video product to showcase the gen vs replica. The pressure is more from myself to do the comparison and contrast piece correctly than using my cellphone for video and sound. I need help from a video editor...and I know a good one, but it's simply aligning our schedules. If someone put a watch to my head and forced me to answer (factoring in school breaks, upcoming holidays / Vacation etc) realistically it could be done around Christmas break when I have a little downtime. It'll be an early Xmas gift for you James! 😉
@@watchornot3691 Well, you can at least show you have an original in a short clip. Then do an in-depth comparison later. I suspect many people don't believe you, because a genuine one is almost impossible to get without an extensive purchase history. Also, the story of your daughters taking the two watches seems very improbable. I just don't understand the motivation, you must have some affiliation with the site in your description.
@@jimhim585 I have zero affiliation with that site or any other. That is not how I make my income, or supplement. Regardless, I worry not about what people will think, but more that my children enjoy any free time I can give them. To each there own way
@@jimhim585 it's obvious it's a BS story having the real one. Anyone that has the means to buy a real 5712 at retail right now is no way buying a clone. And the part of the AD wanted to buy the clone is so BS, that's where I knew the whole story was made up.
i am not sure how would this go at customs last time i ordered a watch they opened up the pacage i wonder if i order this fake they would destroy it and even give me a fine to pay..
@@watchornot3691 well i am from Slovenia we have to pay 22% of the pacage if it is above 150€ and they are rly strick about it, i have to allow them to open it..
Hi Max I bought one today. Paid with credit card. Had to pay by another website for the same amount of money. Did you have to do the same? And how long did it take to get the watch delivered. Was there a problem with the custom?
Congratulations, yes I received an invoice and directions to go to a watch parts site to purchase. Mine was a pre order from back in June so it took 5 or 6 weeks before I saw QC pictures. Delivery was two weeks after pictures and approval emails. I did not have any issue with Customs, but that's the gamble right? Post back when you get it, I would like to know how your experience goes.
@@watchornot3691 I just received an email that the payment did not go through because it was more than $900 It was $909 ( bought the watch with case) I have to contact Amex and hope I can get my payment back
My credit card didn’t pay Got an email to pay $959 again with credit card to the junk website and then I should receive an email how to pay $50 with PayPal Do that on Monday Let you know how it works out
I ordered the watch, and they sent me an invoice# and instructions to go to a watch parts website and buy from that site listing the invoice #. The instructions were pretty simple, I paid with a card, and it took about a month and a half to get the watch. Once ordered, it's built, and then we went thru QC pictures. Buying the super clone was time-consuming, but for me, it was worth the insurance. I am just happy that it made it thru customs and to my door
I am not affiliated with the site, this was the one purchase that I made that I wanted to share. It is a process, you order your watch, recieve an invoice with instructions to go to a website and buy watch parts that match the amount of the invoice. After confirmation of purchase I wIted for weeks until the watch was made and ready for QC emails
I have seen a lot of videos of the real one so and I believe this one has the wrong dial color( one of the biggest flaws). It is more purple than the Real one.
Appreciate the input. I can only add that I filmed this at night on my phone, a Samsung S22 Ultra mounted to my ten year old daughter's ring light. I was in a fairly dark kitchen. I noticed yesterday I'm bright afternoon light that it almost looked grey. It is definitely a beautiful blue on average but it plays with light and shadow. In my next video I will have them side by side and there seems to be very little difference between them. It's almost upsetting
Hello, how are you, the truth is I would like to buy a super clone, because I don't have 50k to buy an original one but I have some questions like, would you recommend buying this watch to someone who really doesn't have the money for an original one, since you have the original and the copy, they feel very similar in the hand, placed on the wrist, you really didn't notice the difference between the copy and the original when your daughter moved them, the link you placed was where you bought the watch? thank you
No agreement signed to release what I filmed at the authorized dealer , I have no editing skills, and time....mostly time. I will sit down and do a comparison and talk over the difference. I hope the phone camera will be enough to capture the difference. Still weeks away from sitting down to do this
Dude I live in China and haven’t seen such great craftsmen on rep watches. I will try to get one! It looks amazing! Thank you for the video!
Man even as a clone
It’s so damn beautiful
Wow this is a great video, it is scary how accurate the super clones are, I remember reading on the replica forums that they rather invest in something like land or real estate or something that has a higher ROI and get a replica/super clone of a watch, even though they can afford the gen one. Very interesting times we live it, and it's scary how you weren't able to discern the gen to the super clone one when your kids took it to play with it, that's how good their getting. Thanks for the video, cheers from Switzerland.
Thank you for sharing the daughters story. I had a good laugh. Very cute 😂
Amazing video! Much appreciated!
👆👆Got mine ⌚⌚@👆👆👆👆💯 check him he ships
Nice to see a video with the original you have & this one side by side to compare.
Seriously. How easy would that be? Oh right he would have to have the original do to that.
@@Dan-Chrssy He says he has one.
I have to mention for the rep-haters who are surely in this thread. I own several quite valuable gens and for most of them I also own a rep as a "decoy" that I can wear out when I'm worried I might get a little out of shape or get robbed etc. Also they stay in a prominent position in my home whilst the gens are hidden away. This is the first time I've been able to own a rep 5712 that is anything like the gen, and it's pretty impressive.
What you are saying is an exact echo to what I have been talking about in the replies. Almost everyone in my circle has a super clone to shadow their investment. Well said
I rather wear a fake since I live in LA
I invest my money in other business, it’s too expensive to own these watch, well but it’s still too good to be true that owning some rep and wear for fun. Not really big deal if hater starting hate 🎉
Where is the best place to get a super clone?
@Account2 that question needs to be more specific. There are thousands of different brands and styles of watches, there are .any different levels of super clones. Reddit has a good watch forum and discussion to read thru and help you sort out what you like or want. I had a specific need for a super clone replica of a watch that I own. Hence, I used this company as they were the only ones who created this model. The website is listed in the written description of this video. However, again, I am not affiliated with the site. If you read thru the comments, other people have purchased from them and documented their own experiences here in the comments.
Great video still waiting for the side by side comparison 😬 🤘
Hoping to see the side by side comparison video soon
Waiting for the 3rd video 😊🙏🏻
Great watch, congratulations!
Would you please tell me if this watch has a hacking movement? When you pulled out the crown to adjust the time, does the second hand stop?
We need a side by side if it's not too much to ask bro! Thanks for sharing cool video
Cant wait for the comparison with the real one! Good work!
Reach out@👆👆👆👆⌚Dude sells and ships too ✅
Откуда он возьмёт настоящие часы для сравнения с этим клоном?
One easy way to discern the real from the rep is taking a look at the balance assembly, most luxury watches balance the wheel via adjustable weights on the wheel which takes a lot of time and expertise. To cut down on the manufacturing time to balance the wheels they use a more common balance arm that is easier to adjust but also is pretty well disguised. But if you are comparing them side by side you'll see the little arm right away.
Good call, but also the engraving is merely printed not engraved properly. The weight is too light (not gold) so it doesn't wind itself properly. Bigger than all that... It's 9mm thick, where the genuine is just 8.52mm, and the difference shows in the thickness of the bezel and is very obvious once you know.
Or just check the serial number with the original paperwork ffs
@peetiegonzalez1845 It is actually engraved, and it's 8.76mm, which, when in a momentary panic, looks the same. This super clone has, I believe, has tungsten in it, so the weight is about the same, but the balance of the two watches feels slightly different. The site I purchased from is listed in the written description of the video. This is a version 2 "pre-production" that is made per order. Now that the dust is settled, it's a great substitute when I want to wear it in a less than secure environment. Best insurance investment I've made for peace of mind to overlay actual insurance.
@@watchornot3691 I have one in my hand right now. It is a V2 purchased from intime, made by the factory known by its acronym PPF. I don't know what you're on about with this pre-production V2 thing. They are not made to order, they sell plenty of these watches and are very well known to collectors. I have digital calipers and I can assure you It's 9mm thick, despite the factory claiming 8.8mm. I also have a good loupe and a microscope. It's not engraved, it is at best laser etched (just checked, the factory does indeed confirm it's laser etched). Compared to my gen it's quite obvious. I wish the weight was tungsten filled, although I'm sure lead would be cheaper and sufficiently heavy. This one clearly is not, it doesn't wind itself adequately when worn. You are correct in stating that these differences are so minor it takes a good eye and a close inspection to spot them, but to say you'd mistake it for the genuine when you have both in your hands would just be silly. It's clearly different, and once you know the difference, you would spot it immediately. EDIT: I appreciate your "momentary panic" was before you learned these subtle differences. I don't think you'll be so worried if it happens again.
can you do a video comparing both the original and the super clone I would be interested to see that side by side
Il n’a pas l’original sinon il aurait réussi à la première vidéo à dévisser la couronne 😂
I’m surprised that you have a real one but didn’t know that the power reserve was empty. No offence, I’ll believe your story when you actually post the real watch 😂
He obviously doesn’t have the real one. He would have shown a side by side for comparison
He’s a pathological liar. Every time he says it’s a little bit embarrassing, it’s followed by a lie.
Anti reflet sur verre saphir intérieur extérieur sur la vrai et il n y a pas de côte de Genève sur le mouvement de la 5712 très mauvaise réplique et tant mieux
I would really like 1 of those nautilus reps , can't tell the difference between the real deal and the rep
Thank you for uploading this video. I own a bunch of expensive watches and I found this whole super clone industry last year. The one area where I feel they are lacking is always in the weight and feel of the bracelet. What was your experience with the bracelet of this Patek? Did it have the same feel as your gen?
I've got a Rolex 116610 and purchased a replica of the exact same watch so I can wear it in less "safe" places without fear of having my gen stolen, and I've run into similar issues with determining the real vs the fake. To resolve that, I've written down the S/N of the real one, so I can always determine which is which without needing to try to look for "tells"/etc.
Awesome! Way to support criminal empires.
I love these new superclones. I have a 5711 from PPF and a genuine 5712. Unfortunately with prices as they are right now, i.e. both 5711 and 5712 going for well over $100k at auction, the genuine is more of a liability at this point, so I'm selling it. I might get this clone just to have as a curio at home.
where are you getting this from
@@glenjohnlandicho4010 link in the description above. It's one of many vendors selling this model.
Great video, thanks
Just ordered this last week and received my tracking number. Bought the v3 with exact colour (dark blue) and second hand as gen.
Where did u get it? Can you please send a link ? Thanks!
@karagelo Via RWI its Intime. Ps watch arrived! It looks fucken stunning! The only issue (not related to watch) is that its slimmer than the average watches so its better on wrists that are less than 17cm in circumference.
Was your AD able to tell the difference with with naked eye?
I have had a rep the dealer had to disassemble the movement to look for engravings on the plates and parts.
Not without a loupe
I saw one and did not know what it was. I fell in love with the style. I knew it was something famous. When the aliexpress woman showed the name I grabbed it. Now I realized the female one cost 100k
is yours engraved on the back or printed with the "patek" etc. the new clones are coming with printing, wanted to know if it looks as bad as it sounds, thanks
Hey thanks for the review. Did you expect to get QC pics or did they just send them unprompted? And did you know before hand which factory this came from? And were you worried at all about your credit card's security?
I am always worried about my credit card security period. I expected QC pics and on their website they list which factory every watch is made in. If you have specific questions I'd ask Ryan at intimewatches. I do plan to buy a few more, but I have not had the time to reduce my choices down to the top 4. It's a rabbit hole of fascination, comparing them to some originals I have and others I want but do not think they will hold value etc.
@@watchornot3691 A Richard Mille would be awesome
@@watchornot3691 their selection of the platinum Daytonas with baguette 💎 dials and bezels are superb . It’s solid 904L not hollow but still not going to weigh the same for sure . A 112g stainless steel watch will weigh like 270g if platinum. Only thing I’m concerned about . But the stainless steel models are great . I stay away from gold replicas just because of the obvious reasons. Constant replating , doesn’t weigh the same. Doesn’t look the same until you have it replated with multiple coats
QC pics are a standard procedure while buying such a replica. Client has to approve the watch he gets, he can say he doesn't like the watch (alignments, details, anything) and is provided with another watch QC - until he is completely satisfied with the watch.
@@watchornot3691 hey brother any update on the comparison video 🤤 👌 happy holidays
Great Video thanks! How is the noise when winding up compared to the gen ??
Great question, the gen is smoother and slightly quieter whereas the replica feels fine but sounds drier or crispy? That's being critical but in truth it's hardly noticeable. Maybe I'm not the best person to ask, as I have had hearing loss since a teenager. This will be part of the compare/ contrast video of two watches however again I will state that I am not a media content creator and it will be filmed mostly with my phone...
@@watchornot3691thanks a lot
Easy to tell the difference just wind them, the original makes no sound the fake makes a scratchy sound which is easily herd in ur first video. Still would love to see them side by side....
I see the satire/sarcasm in your video. Good on you sir.
Just made a purchase from intime 24hr ago for a sub and no response. I’m sure I bought from the right website- how long did you have to wait to get the order confirmed? Insane how good clones are now would be cool to do an update video on this piece and if it is still working. Cheers
The website is listed in the written description of the video. If you just made a purchase, then to clarify, they sent you an invoice with instructions to go to watch parts website and "buy" parts to equal the amount you were given in the invoice? I am surprised they are even open as it's the most popular time of the year in China (February 11th don't they take an entire week off?) Keep posting updates here, I will be curious to hear about your experience. I have noticed that they normally update their website at least once a week, and it has not changed in a month. I started a new job back in December so I have stayed incredibly busy!
Did you put it on a schale does it weight as much as the original?
How is it long term? Still running etc?
Hi there, did you manage to do a comparison video in the end with the authentic watch? Thanks!
@@JoleneLin78 I did, but it was taken down over 6 months ago
most superclones watches, when it comes to the polish parts, it is a fingerprints magnet…compared to genuine watches…thats one of the giveaway…
I really wanted to ask you questions about the website you bought this watch on bc I did some research to make sure this site is legit and many people are saying its a scam so I was wondering if I could contact you somehow and ask you some questions.
The most obvious different with this rep n gen is the moon phase. The moon phase for the rep is way too blue as compared to gen.
Is that the latest Supee Clone 5712 or one model earlier ? I can notice that the frame on the side is too thick versus the original one
This is version 2. Frame on the side is same as original minus 1 mm.
Question: How do you have the exact same watch that is genuine, but weren't sure how to open the clasp, or knew to unscrew the screw-down crown instead of pulling.. in your previous video? Just curious, because I'm a little confused as to whether the replica is designed differently, or I'm missing something.
The super clone arrived 5 weeks before my allocation from P.P. there was definitely a learning curve.
@@watchornot3691 Great, I see! Are you still doing a side by side comparison? We're all eagerly waiting and excited to see them side by side, since now one has done it yet.
@Prism I have 2 more watches inbound by my A.D., I want to secure my investments before posting any more videos regarding super clones as this has upset my A.D.
I would rather maintain my good relationships that took years to develop than post a comparison video and lose the allocation spot. It's frustrating as I feel like I should have the right to show people how incredibly close these two are and where they have obvious discrepancies. Yet it has been spelled out that in no uncertain terms, my removal from the annual allocation is certain if I post any footage from what I shot accepting my 5712 and making comparisons. I do not need to create content, I do need to, at the very least, take delivery of my next two pieces in 2023. After that, I will re-evaluate what I am comfortable showing. The most important piece of information I can share is, if you ever work your way into a relationship with an A.D. and are able to secure pieces that you like and want to invest in. Make sure you can get a super clone as insurance to wear in unsecured locations. Clearly familiarize yourself with insurance policies and make sure you are covered in multiple situations in said policy. I am looking forward to sharing at a minimum of two more pieces by the end of this year.
Looks really nice, like your video style and commentary. If you were offered three times the cost,why didn’t you sell it, buy another which would basically be free?
Good points, but sitting in the shop at the time I felt that I didn't want either watch to leave my site and I wanted to make sure both stayed with me. I told the person where I purchased it from and let him buy one himself to do with what he liked. I do not want to sell the replica because I would not want to be a part of anyone purposely being deceived down the line as it trades hands. Also, there is a reason I want to keep it, and years down the line if I do sell there will be a reason to include it with the real one. I have learned a few things in my inner circle about why to keep a replica around. I will try to touch on that in my third and final video
@@watchornot3691 What's the reason you'd want to keep the replica around? Me personally I'm considering to wearing them at areas that are not safe to wear pieces like that or at times I'd want to wear my watches but I know the places I'd be going to would make me forget about the watch or getting the watch banged up.
I might have to get one of these. How long can they last? The only rep I got was when I went to China from a street vendor in Beijing. It fell apart in like 2 months, but I didn’t pay much
Mine has functioned flawlessly for the last 8 or so months since the purchase. I would expect this to last a decade, at least.
May I ask where did you buy the super clone ?
It's listed in the description as well as talked about in the video.
www.intime06.co/
Do they ship to South Africa, dont see a option when I checkout to ship to South Africa.
Regards J
I am not affiliated with the site. I would just email them and ask? I would assume that they ship everywhere but I do not know.
Fascinating video mate. I am considering getting a fake platinum Daytona. I love the real watch and am very happy with it but I’m very careless and likely to scratch the bracelet or lose it. Fakes have come a long way. Hope you do make more videos, interesting info. Good content
You have an original 116506 ? 😂 sounds like bullshit. But yes. You should be careful with it. 😂 😂 😂
@@g1i2o3p4a5s what’s so hard to believe.
I have a super globe Batman oyster and a real one. Given the way the uk is, people are getting mugged for watches.
I have been waiting 5 years and still no luck with my AD, tempted by this, where can I get it from?
I put the link in the written description of the video just for you 😉
Whats the price and where i can buy this product??))))
I wold love to see a Real one to this Super Cloan. Also how much did you pay for this?
Hey there ! just checking in, how is the watch after a year of use so far ? Beautiful watch again man, even for a super clone, its quite still expensive for me to afford haha, maybe one day !
@georgehafner7901 The watch has been flawless. The site I listed in the written description has actually updated this model to a version 3 or 2.5 since I purchased this one. I do not wear this watch much. Most events are secure enough to wear my Gen, so I've only worn this maybe 3 times this year, once for a 3 day event.
I can't believe this is a replica, I really need to see a side-by-side comparison; I think the most telling part should be the movements.
I have been away on holiday but that is my intention to put a clip together comparing both side by side.
@@watchornot3691 I look forward to it and thanks for doing these videos; I myself just purchased a 5726/1a-014 from a grey dealer recently, and while I have vast confidence in this dealer, your video somehow still stunned me because how real the watch, the box, and even the booklets and certificate of origin look, these replicas nowadays are just too scarily close to 1:1, at least on videos. Thanks again for the video!
@@watchornot3691 are you gonna compare 2 replicas lol
dial wise, it's hard to tell. I think, in this case, the brushing on a real 5712 bezel is much more fine, and smooth. I looked at the site, and since the OP of this video never showed a movement, the real PP has way better finishing, deeper and more prominent engraving. Deeper and nicer Geneva stripes, and finer, better defined perlage. I'm personally having a hard time thinking that if you have both in hand, that you cannot tell the difference between the 2, even without a loupe. Even a good pair of reading glasses can tell. But on someone else's wrist? Only thing I would notice is the brush finishing, and even then, I'd have to be close.
th-cam.com/video/9TWVItdymOc/w-d-xo.html is a good example.
Right..why did you not just check the reference numbers on the back and marry them up to the certificate? I'm surprised any AD would even touch a clone especially Patek..plus find it weird they would offer to Buy a clone. Thierry Stern would be shocked that a AD is buying clones!!!
Where can I find the best super clones?
Where is the side by side comparison to the gen. You seems prety enthusiastic about this replica.
amazing how your views have gone from 9 or ten views to Thousands lol. Looking forward to your comparison video.
YIKES!! I have not paid attention to the count at all. I try to respond to anyone that directly asks me a question because replies are simple and I want to encourage community conversations. It will be a while before I can edit the multiple videos together, I've asked the help of a friend who works for a national News agency. I am hoping he can help with editing. Maybe I should post other content with a few of the other watches in my collection.
Im sure is bluffing 😂
Dude ... its been 6 months and still no comparison video...or AT LEAST, show you real one.👍
wow !! i own one 5712/A and i must say; after watching the entire video; was unable to pick at all that this is a clone ! scary indeed
Wow? Retail? How did you get ur hands on one? I’ve been trying to but it’s been impossible. Would love to hear from you.
@@sarhan_ he isn’t being truthful! He’s definitely another rep time sycophant proving confirmation bias.
This is the basic clone , the super clone extra is comes with free sprung balance wheel and true 22k gold rotor just like the genuine one but it is costs like 3k$
So 1 year later. I did not wear the watch for some time. I put it on a winder. Shows full power but it does not work anymore. I winded it mor-nochange. I don´t know what to do!
This happened to me, I cannot keep the watch on a winder. It over winds the watch. Take it off and let it run off some power for 2 or 3 weeks. That worked for me
I have the new PVD Cartier Santos, I came out in March and the site you list has it already. So it takes them no time to clone.
👆👆Got mine ⌚⌚@👆👆👆👆💯 check him he ships
So…..do all of the functions work properly? As the original? Moon phase too?
I have had it for almost a year, and everything functions perfectly. I left it on an auto watch winder while on holiday, and it wound the power reserve too tight, and it stopped working. I took it off and let the power reserve spring wind down for a month, back to full function when I wind it up
Hi
Today I received my watch
I bought it the same way as you
The watch is working and looking good
There is no manual
I don’t know how the moon phase is working
Can you help me out
It works exactly like the genuine. I went to Patek Phillipe website and they have a calendar and instructions on how to set it. It's very easy! Congratulations on your purchase. If you do not have an auto watch winder, I would recommend grabbing one for this piece. Check back in with an update. Mine is still working perfectly
@@watchornot3691 thanks
Worked out perfect
Easy to set everything
I’m really happy 😳👍
Hey sorry for the random comment but I noticed your part 1 video was no where to be found, I actually was planning to go back to watch part 1 because I found the unboxing interesting, did you perhaps taken it down ? Cheers !
It did get taken down?!! I don't see it in my library. Actually, I do not see 3 watch videos at this point. Crazy, but fascinating. If I were a content creator, I would probably care, but I am curious as to why. I will look into it to see if there is some reason. Thanks for the heads up
Nice video Part 1 and 2. My only question I have for you is related to the power reserve indicator. Can you please let me know if your watch shows 0% on the indicator when the watch stops. On some of the PPF models of 5712 the indicator still showed 30 hours remaining but the watch stopped. Please check and let me know. The version 2 of the PPF which I think you got is really quite good as a clone. Thank you
Power reserve indicator shows zero or ends at the three red dots. Fully functional. The site I purchased it from is listed in the written description of the video
Thank you for the quick reply. Great to hear that all the functions work as described. I also noticed from your first video that you bought a box too. Would you say the box is great, good, or fair quality? I also have the real Patek and I noticed they didn't give you the black tool that comes with the original watch to change the date and moon phase. Just not sure if I should get the box as well. Thank you again.
@speedracer2111 The box was a curiosity. It is garbage, to be honest. I wanted to see what it was for the price, I'm not disappointed because I had no expectations, but I would not use it to show anyone, and insurance would never see it.
@@watchornot3691thank you for your insight. I won’t spend the extra 100. for the box.
But would you recommend buying the watch? Another site had the same watch but costs a little more.
What about the bracelet? How does it compare? Does it pull hairs?
The bracelet was a little tight on the clasp for the first 10 pulls. Now it's perfect. It's as comfortable as my Gen and does not pull out any arm hair.
Hard to believe, take one look at the movement you can tell which one is the GEN
Can you tell me if the texture of the moon is different from the original? Also the spindle the hands are connected to, are they different such as the real version is gold and the replica is bronze or a different color? I assume they are the same if when your daughters took them you could not tell them apart unless you did not remember the differences.
Side by side comparison?
Was it relatively easy to adjust the bracelet size? How will a 7.5” wrist fit. Thanks.
I have this exact watch!
Did you have to go through another website to pay? Just wondering what the return policy is like if something goes wrong. But I couldn't pay them directly for the watch.
Yes, I purchased thru a watch parts site, only after I ordered my watch and received an invoice number. It's been a while, but the instructions were very easy to follow. I never thought about a return policy on buying replica watches, but let me know what you find out, hahaha. If any replica watch company actually has a return policy that has been verified by customers, that would be pretty solid.
@@watchornot3691 Thank you for your reply. I just found it to be odd that we had to pay through a third party site. They told me returns would be at my expense and 20% restocking if I didnt like it, but if the watch is bad they would waive the restocking but from the looks of it you got a great time piece. I'll pass on the box because of your suggestion. Did they give you the black pin pusher?
Where did you buy it and how much ?
Who did you buy it from? Do they make APs?
Link in the page
Why didn't you check the serial number with the papers that came with the original?
I did eventually after the panick subsided. After recounting this funny story to my AD on the phone, they wanted to see it and asked me to bring it in.
Hay Max, how did you pay for the watch?
I ordered it, they sent me an invoice with instructions to go to a site and order "watch parts" totaling the same amount as the invoice. I used my PayPal if I remember correctly and then waited a few months as this watch was a pre order.
What was the company you got the super clone , thanks
Listed in the description
Why not just check the card on your real one to see the serial number insted of going to your retailer?
These "super clones" may be the term used now but the quality of these clone watches have been amazing for awhile.
My friend about ten years ago bought some clones...a Tag, a Panerai, and a Rolex sub...and the quality was just amazing. I was blown away back then. The finishing and the craftsmanship were top notch.
He actually brought his Rolex to an AD friend and the he was totally fooled for awhile...but eventually he figured out it was a clone. But his friend was very very impressed. Back then clones were going for around 200-500 bucks depending on the movement crystal and casing.
I never wanted a clone. To many good watches at affordable prices to enjoy than spend monies on a clone.
I always say if you can afford it get the real thing. If not buy something else. With the explosion of microbrands there are now a plethora of options to chose from! Beautiful well made options!
What page do you buey that Watch ?
Written in description of the video
Why don’t you have both watches out at the same time?
I did not receive my Gen from the A.D. until 3 weeks after I made this video.
I have one and find that the strap grabs hairs and pulls on them ..on the wrist.., only thing I do not like....
I have not had this issue at all. Are you saying you have the pre-order version two super clone of the 5712 from the site I listed in the written description of the video? Curious indeed!
I buy and sell authentic rolexes and i want to buy a rolex from the website you linked to see what the difference is between a real day date and a super clone, is it safe to order from the website or should i not order?
I am not affiliated with the website, I went thru my own due diligence and cross-referenced the site on reddit as a trusted replica dealer. All of that checked out for me, but my experience is mine and not others. I could have easily had the watch taken by customs. It's a risk everyone takes when purchasing from any replica dealer that no one should be in denial about.
It took me over two months to go thru the pre-order and purchasing process until it was delivered. Again, this was my experience being shipped to me in my country. It would vary for anyone else, I'm sure.
Will I buy from them again? Absolutely, but not until I have a real watch that I want a second piece as insurance. I wouldn't call the transaction safe,but are they a reliable website? Yes, based on my experience and multiple feedback on reddit.
@@watchornot3691 thank you so much for the information, appreciate it alot!
@@user-qi7xr Did you end up ordering?
@@ashleysteinbach8779 No, i asked them to send pictures on some of the watches and like 1-2 days after they started calling me 4-5 times a day to make me order and i found that kinda sketchy so i never ordered
Its been 1 year but can u tell me where did you get this watch
It's in the written description of the video just for you
So after almost a year! can you tell us your experience with this? would you tell us how far from originally.
You are right. It's been almost a year already?! The watch has been a perfect substitute to wear in high-risk areas. Being that this is a 2nd version, the thickness difference is imperceptible when worn on the wrist. The weight is just about spot on. It keeps time for 2 days on the power reserve, moon phase works, and that detailing is where the separation between the two can be discerned.
I had one issue when I left it on an auto winder while away on holiday, and it wound up too tight and jammed. I left it alone for a month, and the power spring let out all energy, and I wound it up, and it works perfectly again. Outside of that, no issues.
I have worn it to spring training baseball games in Scottsdale AZ(big watch community) but also a large theft targeted event. I took it to a Seattle golf event and once to an unscouted F.P. Journe event in Miami with a disclosure to a close friend that it was a clone.
@@watchornot3691 thanks for your time answering! Great response
Yea but if you have a real one , your box will show you your serial which will be on the watch , and trust me once you look closely you can tel pateks work
Il n y a pas de côte de Genève sur le mouvement de la 5712
There should be some tiny red dots at the power reserve ..?
There are
It's exactly like the gen. Better shots posted on the site I purchased from. In the description of the video
Yes I made a screenshot and looked at it, you can see that 4 dots, must be the light environment, thx
@@lillycat1405 I can add, my power reserve works for about 32 hours
Where is the comparison video you said you would put out, between the real and fake?
I hear you, right!?? This guy....he's all talk. Oh wait, that's me. I'm that guy haha. A glimpse of my life as someone who is NOT a TH-cam content creator....I was in Microsoft Teams meetings all day with clients until 6:30pm. Ran to the car, picked up my 3yr old from daycare, flew thru a drive thru and fed her. Speed home, potty, bath, brush teeth, book and bed. Catch up with the rest of the family and now it's late, I have no energy to continue on.
My hang ups are clear, I have video of my deliver from the authorized dealer, they verbally agreed to release rights to use pre approved snippets of my experience (which has been lovely) but now the owner will not sign a release and I would prefer to maintain my good standing with my A.D. as I have two more pieces inbound that I have ordered, paid for and waited years to receive.
I also have not taken the time to edit clips in to create an overall video product to showcase the gen vs replica. The pressure is more from myself to do the comparison and contrast piece correctly than using my cellphone for video and sound. I need help from a video editor...and I know a good one, but it's simply aligning our schedules. If someone put a watch to my head and forced me to answer (factoring in school breaks, upcoming holidays / Vacation etc) realistically it could be done around Christmas break when I have a little downtime. It'll be an early Xmas gift for you James! 😉
@@watchornot3691 Well, you can at least show you have an original in a short clip. Then do an in-depth comparison later. I suspect many people don't believe you, because a genuine one is almost impossible to get without an extensive purchase history. Also, the story of your daughters taking the two watches seems very improbable. I just don't understand the motivation, you must have some affiliation with the site in your description.
@@jimhim585 I have zero affiliation with that site or any other. That is not how I make my income, or supplement. Regardless, I worry not about what people will think, but more that my children enjoy any free time I can give them. To each there own way
@@watchornot3691 Then why not show the real one next to the fake in a short clip? Literally can be shot with your phone.
@@jimhim585 it's obvious it's a BS story having the real one. Anyone that has the means to buy a real 5712 at retail right now is no way buying a clone. And the part of the AD wanted to buy the clone is so BS, that's where I knew the whole story was made up.
Would love this watch. We're it from?
I put the link in the written description of the video just for you 😉
Hi, where to buy that watch?
I put it in the written description of the video just for you
i am not sure how would this go at customs last time i ordered a watch they opened up the pacage i wonder if i order this fake they would destroy it and even give me a fine to pay..
That has never happened to me, but this isn't something I regularly do.
@@watchornot3691 well i am from Slovenia we have to pay 22% of the pacage if it is above 150€ and they are rly strick about it, i have to allow them to open it..
Hi Max
I bought one today.
Paid with credit card. Had to pay by another website for the same amount of money. Did you have to do the same? And how long did it take to get the watch delivered. Was there a problem with the custom?
Congratulations, yes I received an invoice and directions to go to a watch parts site to purchase. Mine was a pre order from back in June so it took 5 or 6 weeks before I saw QC pictures. Delivery was two weeks after pictures and approval emails. I did not have any issue with Customs, but that's the gamble right? Post back when you get it, I would like to know how your experience goes.
@@watchornot3691 I just received an email that the payment did not go through because it was more than $900
It was $909 ( bought the watch with case)
I have to contact Amex and hope I can get my payment back
Hii wanted to ask did you recieve your watch yet im considering to buy also a watch from intimewatch
@@DialgaCZ the video is about the watch I received from Intime
My credit card didn’t pay
Got an email to pay $959 again with credit card to the junk website and then I should receive an email how to pay $50 with PayPal
Do that on Monday
Let you know how it works out
Did you swim with it or held it under water or showered with it ??
@Christian
Just ordered one the latest version they say it’s the best ever made 😂 we will see
Did you pay with bitcoin or card. I can’t figure out how to pay with card.
I ordered the watch, and they sent me an invoice# and instructions to go to a watch parts website and buy from that site listing the invoice #. The instructions were pretty simple, I paid with a card, and it took about a month and a half to get the watch. Once ordered, it's built, and then we went thru QC pictures. Buying the super clone was time-consuming, but for me, it was worth the insurance. I am just happy that it made it thru customs and to my door
Follow up video?
Hi Max is this ppf or ZF?
Idk, it's on the homepage listed in the description. I don't know that much about replica watches haha
Ppf
I believe PPF is now ZF, last I checked on reddit.
Can you show us how to buy from that website too if u could please
I am not affiliated with the site, this was the one purchase that I made that I wanted to share. It is a process, you order your watch, recieve an invoice with instructions to go to a website and buy watch parts that match the amount of the invoice. After confirmation of purchase I wIted for weeks until the watch was made and ready for QC emails
@@watchornot3691 Ohh thanks btw how can i buy that box too
@@nubvfx796 listed on the site, look at the bottom of their listed selections under watch boxes
@@watchornot3691 thank you i appreciate it!!
Swiss Watch Expo is authentic 5712 for $100,999 as of 6/22/23.
How much is the real one?
would you sell this?
I have seen a lot of videos of the real one so and I believe this one has the wrong dial color( one of the biggest flaws). It is more purple than the Real one.
Appreciate the input. I can only add that I filmed this at night on my phone, a Samsung S22 Ultra mounted to my ten year old daughter's ring light. I was in a fairly dark kitchen. I noticed yesterday I'm bright afternoon light that it almost looked grey. It is definitely a beautiful blue on average but it plays with light and shadow. In my next video I will have them side by side and there seems to be very little difference between them. It's almost upsetting
I agree, the genuine dial colour is more of a greeny blue isn't it.
There's a better rep if you dropn the moonphase, also you can get the gen dial with gTD
@@OfficialGOD please share your rep information here if it's been verified with the reddit user community. The community appreciates your help!
Hello, how are you, the truth is I would like to buy a super clone, because I don't have 50k to buy an original one but I have some questions like, would you recommend buying this watch to someone who really doesn't have the money for an original one, since you have the original and the copy, they feel very similar in the hand, placed on the wrist, you really didn't notice the difference between the copy and the original when your daughter moved them, the link you placed was where you bought the watch? thank you
I put it in the written description of the video just for you 😉
What factory is this watch from?
Where I purchased from is listed in the written description of the video. They have all the factories listed for whom makes which watch
Where you buy it from ?
The site is listed in the written description of the video just for you
How come no side by side comparison?
No agreement signed to release what I filmed at the authorized dealer , I have no editing skills, and time....mostly time. I will sit down and do a comparison and talk over the difference. I hope the phone camera will be enough to capture the difference.
Still weeks away from sitting down to do this
@@watchornot3691 don't you own the real one and fake one your kids were playing with can't you make a video comparing both?