I went down the route of older managed switch in the centre with a mix of smart managed and managed on the edge. Works a dream smart managed switch at the edge when I only need vlans or link aggregation. Also top tip a few of my edge switches got switches second hand with noise fans. Buy them low price then swap out the fans with noctua fans. Fixes the problem but also make a noisy fan near silent. Just watch the pin outs between most switches and noctua fans have +v and fan sense are reversed
Would you recommend a book or a site where I might find some good info on managwd switches. I'm a small business that needs fast speeds and high security(the best security hopefully). Unfortunately we don't have an it guy and I have suddenly ans greatly enjoyed learning things at what some say at a fast rate. Only bc I have had good advice. I'm learning containers now and have a pihole unbound set up along with an openwrt router.. I have also got into Infiniti band and ethernet and a vpi. I also have a few proxmox servers. I still keep getting stuck on management switches. Sfp ports too with 10gigs and even going to 40 gbs. But it's not efficient and practical
I'm not familiar with the FS switches though thinking of ordering one. I'm curious if it can decipher shorthand commands as it drastically makes changes go faster config = Configure show run = show running-config int 5 OR int 0/5 = Interface Gigabitethernet 0/5 Nice video explaining for those getting started Also as a side note for those that might not know, pressing TAB in the middle of a command name, it should autofill different results with every tab, its primitive for knowing arguments for commands!
So I don't have much experience with smart managed switches, but the one thing I prefer a "traditional" managed switch for is DEBUG. The traditional managed switches have a wealth of debug options. Want to see why something is or isn't working? Debug mode!
Always useful. The smart managed one I have here either works or it doesn't. If it doesn't I can turn it off and on again, or reset it and that's about all.
I really need help with my managed switch it does not have a dedicated uplink port. I am getting DNS errors and slow internet speed. It is a mocha link switch and the settings are very detailed. I turned the port on to protected mode and set it up as an access port in the VLAN settings. Although I have my VLAN settings on default so I'm lost
After seeing the thumbnail I was interested. Then lost interest after hearing all ports, including the SFP, are only 1g and none are 10g/sfp+. Not having at least some 2.5g just isn't good enough anymore these days. Then you got a trunk port with half a dozen VLans being limited to 1g total... Edit: it seems they agree, and their current entry-level switch (literally cheapest option) is now basically the one you got, but with 4x 10g SFP+ instead of the 1g SFP ports. That's an actual option. I really would've liked some information relevant for a homelab, like power usage with a few cables plugged in.
i wondered in this video after i made some research of my own and actually bought a netgears smart switch. I started looking up how to setup RADIUS authentication, but all i was able to find, was information that you shouldn't plug your switch before router. I think that actually applies to the unmanaged switches. Did you plug yours directly to the ISP device? or did you put the switch behind the router ?
It would be more typical to put the switch behind the router. The public IP from your ISP would go to the router and it shares it using NAT with other devices on your network that are attached to the switch. An exception might be if you had a public subnet and wanted to assign public IPs to devices not behind your router, but this seems rather unlikely in a HomeLab scenario as most residential connections don't have a static public IP let alone a subnet.
I have a Generell Question to this Switch. Im not really a Network Guy but found myself in a Place where i have to build a new Machine Network at Work. I've bought a Bunch of these Switches for a Number of Reasons. THE hot Swappable Power Supplys where definetly one of them. But i have also Read a Manual where it says "you dont have to Access every Switch individually, you can Configure them in a more Unified way" I've been playing with These Switches for a few Days now but i havent found this Feature yet. Is there a Management Software for FS Switches in Existance or was this just a Marketing Gag?
Try searching the manual for stacking - essentially makes a bunch of switches act as one big switch with lots of ports. It sounds like what you're after?
@@ProTechShow thanks for the Quick reply! Im going to build a RSTP Ring with 10 Switches in Total, so sadly way to much for Stacking. But i will read the Port Status via SNMP an visualize / alarm them on our Process Control System. So any kind of Failure or Cable fault should be identified quickly
Not necessarily. I've seen both smart managed and fully managed switches from TP-Link (never used UniFi switches although I have an AP somewhere). The general rule is that smart switches will have a web UI, but no command line interface; but it can vary between manufacturers. If they sell both their website will usually categorise each unit as one or the other.
@@ProTechShow thanks! I don't know why you didn't say the smart managed one you used and didn't like, might have been useful to provide an example of a smart managed switch. For example, I have enterprise TP-Link switches that I'm not sure if they have command line interfaces, because I've only ever used the web interfaces, and it's not obvious to me if they have CL interfaces
I decided against naming them because although that one product was rubbish I haven't used enough to know if it's representative of the brand as a whole. Because FS sponsored the video I also didn't want it to look like they had paid me to bad-mouth a competitor.
There's only so much network switches can vary from each other when they're all implementing the same standards. They're not copying Cisco model-for-model or in terms of the wider ecosystem, but their OS definitely seems to be very similar to Cisco IOS in terms of the commands you use. The same could be said for Dell and others, though. You could say they're all copying IOS, or you could say IOS has become a bit of a de facto standard.
Nearly all of the managed switches that I've seen use some CLI interface that is similar to Cisco. This is the first I've seen use "GigabitEthernet" like Cisco does though. Most that I've dealt with just use "Eth"
Keep and eye out for the like button, it likes to be pressed.... 😂 Also, I really enjoy these types of videos where you take an enterprise approach to a testing environment you can make at home. They are super informative and entertaining. All the best
Any evidence for that, or is it just a reaction to anything made in China? I may be wrong, but I don't believe FS gets their switches from Huawei. Even if they did my home is literally wired into Huawei equipment via underground cables. A huge amount of the telecoms infrastructure is Huawei, and they OEM loads of the modems and routers ISPs give out to customers. A switch would be a drop in the ocean. As for infiltrator products, it's not necessarily the Chinese you should worry about: www.tomshardware.com/news/cisco-backdoor-hardcoded-accounts-software,37480.html
You could just read the Huawei Wikipedia entry and get scared. They’re KNOWN for sneaking in back doors and working with/for the Chinese government for espionage. It’s bad enough our own govts do it to ourselves.
I went down the route of older managed switch in the centre with a mix of smart managed and managed on the edge. Works a dream smart managed switch at the edge when I only need vlans or link aggregation. Also top tip a few of my edge switches got switches second hand with noise fans. Buy them low price then swap out the fans with noctua fans. Fixes the problem but also make a noisy fan near silent. Just watch the pin outs between most switches and noctua fans have +v and fan sense are reversed
Useful tip on the fans!
Thanks for the fan tip, definitely keeping this in mind going forward.
Would you recommend a book or a site where I might find some good info on managwd switches. I'm a small business that needs fast speeds and high security(the best security hopefully).
Unfortunately we don't have an it guy and I have suddenly ans greatly enjoyed learning things at what some say at a fast rate. Only bc I have had good advice. I'm learning containers now and have a pihole unbound set up along with an openwrt router.. I have also got into Infiniti band and ethernet and a vpi. I also have a few proxmox servers. I still keep getting stuck on management switches. Sfp ports too with 10gigs and even going to 40 gbs. But it's not efficient and practical
I'm not familiar with the FS switches though thinking of ordering one. I'm curious if it can decipher shorthand commands as it drastically makes changes go faster
config = Configure
show run = show running-config
int 5 OR int 0/5 = Interface Gigabitethernet 0/5
Nice video explaining for those getting started
Also as a side note for those that might not know, pressing TAB in the middle of a command name, it should autofill different results with every tab, its primitive for knowing arguments for commands!
I have deployed thousands of these in a place most people would be shocked to hear. I dont love them but they do get the job done.
So I don't have much experience with smart managed switches, but the one thing I prefer a "traditional" managed switch for is DEBUG. The traditional managed switches have a wealth of debug options. Want to see why something is or isn't working? Debug mode!
Always useful. The smart managed one I have here either works or it doesn't. If it doesn't I can turn it off and on again, or reset it and that's about all.
I really need help with my managed switch it does not have a dedicated uplink port. I am getting DNS errors and slow internet speed. It is a mocha link switch and the settings are very detailed. I turned the port on to protected mode and set it up as an access port in the VLAN settings. Although I have my VLAN settings on default so I'm lost
After seeing the thumbnail I was interested. Then lost interest after hearing all ports, including the SFP, are only 1g and none are 10g/sfp+. Not having at least some 2.5g just isn't good enough anymore these days. Then you got a trunk port with half a dozen VLans being limited to 1g total...
Edit: it seems they agree, and their current entry-level switch (literally cheapest option) is now basically the one you got, but with 4x 10g SFP+ instead of the 1g SFP ports. That's an actual option.
I really would've liked some information relevant for a homelab, like power usage with a few cables plugged in.
Great video! The first thing I learned is that networking is expensive.
Haha! It's true...
Like most things there are more cost-effective options, and more "the sky's the limit" options.
i wondered in this video after i made some research of my own and actually bought a netgears smart switch. I started looking up how to setup RADIUS authentication, but all i was able to find, was information that you shouldn't plug your switch before router.
I think that actually applies to the unmanaged switches.
Did you plug yours directly to the ISP device? or did you put the switch behind the router ?
It would be more typical to put the switch behind the router. The public IP from your ISP would go to the router and it shares it using NAT with other devices on your network that are attached to the switch. An exception might be if you had a public subnet and wanted to assign public IPs to devices not behind your router, but this seems rather unlikely in a HomeLab scenario as most residential connections don't have a static public IP let alone a subnet.
Exactly for the video I was looking for ❤❤
Glad it was useful
I have a Generell Question to this Switch.
Im not really a Network Guy but found myself in a Place where i have to build a new Machine Network at Work.
I've bought a Bunch of these Switches for a Number of Reasons. THE hot Swappable Power Supplys where definetly one of them. But i have also Read a Manual where it says "you dont have to Access every Switch individually, you can Configure them in a more Unified way"
I've been playing with These Switches for a few Days now but i havent found this Feature yet. Is there a Management Software for FS Switches in Existance or was this just a Marketing Gag?
Try searching the manual for stacking - essentially makes a bunch of switches act as one big switch with lots of ports. It sounds like what you're after?
@@ProTechShow thanks for the Quick reply!
Im going to build a RSTP Ring with 10 Switches in Total, so sadly way to much for Stacking.
But i will read the Port Status via SNMP an visualize / alarm them on our Process Control System. So any kind of Failure or Cable fault should be identified quickly
5:54 you only spent 28s to waffle about features? Now I have to google the spec sheet ^^
Just to be clear, is UniFi and TP-Link stuff examples of "smart managed"?
Not necessarily. I've seen both smart managed and fully managed switches from TP-Link (never used UniFi switches although I have an AP somewhere). The general rule is that smart switches will have a web UI, but no command line interface; but it can vary between manufacturers. If they sell both their website will usually categorise each unit as one or the other.
@@ProTechShow thanks! I don't know why you didn't say the smart managed one you used and didn't like, might have been useful to provide an example of a smart managed switch.
For example, I have enterprise TP-Link switches that I'm not sure if they have command line interfaces, because I've only ever used the web interfaces, and it's not obvious to me if they have CL interfaces
I decided against naming them because although that one product was rubbish I haven't used enough to know if it's representative of the brand as a whole. Because FS sponsored the video I also didn't want it to look like they had paid me to bad-mouth a competitor.
Pity it's just too deep for my cabinet.
thanks. But this switch is not on Amazon.
There is a link in the description to buy it directly from FS.com if you're interested in the model shown in the video
Excellent video, great work!
Thanks 🙂
The FS switch are a copy cat of Cisco's Catalyst?
There's only so much network switches can vary from each other when they're all implementing the same standards. They're not copying Cisco model-for-model or in terms of the wider ecosystem, but their OS definitely seems to be very similar to Cisco IOS in terms of the commands you use. The same could be said for Dell and others, though. You could say they're all copying IOS, or you could say IOS has become a bit of a de facto standard.
Nearly all of the managed switches that I've seen use some CLI interface that is similar to Cisco. This is the first I've seen use "GigabitEthernet" like Cisco does though. Most that I've dealt with just use "Eth"
The cli sure looks like it, doesn't it.
Great video. Thanks a lot.
Glad you liked it!
no 10 Gbe ports. For that price I prefer Mikrotik
Another fantastic video!
Cheers!
Keep and eye out for the like button, it likes to be pressed.... 😂
Also, I really enjoy these types of videos where you take an enterprise approach to a testing environment you can make at home. They are super informative and entertaining.
All the best
Thanks! Glad to hear people find them useful. 🙂
Chinese infiltrator product made by Huawei never let that into your home
Any evidence for that, or is it just a reaction to anything made in China?
I may be wrong, but I don't believe FS gets their switches from Huawei. Even if they did my home is literally wired into Huawei equipment via underground cables. A huge amount of the telecoms infrastructure is Huawei, and they OEM loads of the modems and routers ISPs give out to customers. A switch would be a drop in the ocean.
As for infiltrator products, it's not necessarily the Chinese you should worry about: www.tomshardware.com/news/cisco-backdoor-hardcoded-accounts-software,37480.html
You could just read the Huawei Wikipedia entry and get scared. They’re KNOWN for sneaking in back doors and working with/for the Chinese government for espionage. It’s bad enough our own govts do it to ourselves.
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