Is Dumbledore the Heir of Gryffindor? [Harry Potter Theory]
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Today J dives into the Wizarding World to determine Dumbledores' true lineage and reveal how he is the heir of Godric Gryffindor!
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OK Dumbledore is Gryffindor's Heir..
Kowolski is Hufflepuff's..
Voldemort is Slytherin..
WHERE IS OUR RAVENCLAW???
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(unless... is it.. pretty obvious? (It cant be (right? (no... ))))
Ok i literally almost exactly commented this 😂
Isn't it the Gray Lady or are you guys talking about the new generations?
Is it Ben? Also where is Ben??? He wasn't here last week
NEXT PROJECT!!!!!
It’s obviously Gilderoy Lockhart
"I have no beard and 3 kids. The math doesn't add up."
sociologists prove that bearded people dont have long term relationships. beardless ones tend to have long term ones ... hence more chance of having kids.
Clearly his favourite character and role model is Arthur Weasley
@@user-we7go7ed3l well beards make people uglier, so makes sense
I want 0 kids and 3 money
@@elizabethrose644 I think that's a personal opinion
Could McGonagall be an heir of Ravenclaw?
(Quick refresher: Helena is Rowena Ravenclaw's only known child. She moved to Scotland after fleeing Hogwarts with the diadem only to be hunted and killed years later by the baron who was sent to retrieve her. He got mad when she didn't want to marry him, he kills her, and then guilty, so he kills himself)
It takes a couple leaps but as y'all said, Rowena's family history is kinda missing. I don't think this is because Helena didn't have kids but that she would keep her life private and because she died before anyone knew. She hid the Diadem while she was alive, in an Albanian forest and I doubt that was because she didn't know a way to defend things magically or have an heir to pass it to. I suspect this is because Helena knew she would be hunted and that magic would only make finding her/it easier. On top of that, any heirs she left would have little chance with a target that big.
(Sidebar: If Helena wasn't a ghost, the diadem would likely never be found. Also, Tom Riddle hiding it in the room of hidden things because he thought he was the only one clever enough to have found it is wildly dumb. Who hid all the other things Tom???? Terrible wedding planner)
The first big issue is that McGonagall isn't a Ravenclaw but I think this actually helps her. McGonagall is one of the two true Hatstalls we know of and both of them were because the person's value structure was different than their ambitions. (Pettigrew valued courage but was more cunning and McGonagall believed in bravery and conviction but was brilliant beyond her years) I think this wasn't only because she is so wise but because she is the Ravenclaw heir.
Ambitious Slytherins are only made stronger by the rivals they form. A Hufflepuff's loyalty only grows when their friends remain true. Ravenclaw's questions are answered when surrounded by scholars. And a Gryffindor's bravery is forged when they rally together.
If you're right about Kowolski, I think he would have been a Hatstall too. The hat has two usually parallel priorities when sorting. It puts you where you'll strive and where your values are reflected. McGonagall might have been equally as strong if she had more scholars at her side but I think the hat eventually realized McGonagall would be driven further with people to protect and a cause to rally behind.
(To our knowledge Hatstalls have a lot to do with the wishes of the person being sorted. Hermione, Neville, and Harry are the three longest sortings I can think of and we know that the decision was largely to do with their desired house.
As far as why I think they're blood-related, largely because of her intelligence but also because what little we know little about the McGonagall family tree lines up perfectly with the Ravenclaw tree. We only know that one side of the McGonagall family is likely pure-blooded, the other side is muggles and both sides are Scottish. Helena ran from Hogwarts with the Diadem and hid in Scotland for presumably years if not decades. She ran to Scotland while still in school but in most depictions, she is at the youngest in her twenties, when she became the Grey Lady. That leaves enough of a gap to start a family. (Likely with a muggle. Not because we know Rowena's position on muggles but just if she did that would be most likely) When she is murdered by the baron, all chances of that family being on any wizard records are dashed.
Now the only big gap I have is which side is the Ravenclaw side and there's a problem. I don't know. Both are plausible. A powerful witch mom dying at the start of the 11th century with one of the biggest family names in existence. I wouldn't be deeply shocked if her line were powerful and eventually became blood purists who have no one to point to at one of the most crucial times for blood purists. They likely didn't know who that line came from. On the other hand, Helena likely married a muggle man and in a time in her life where she would likely avoid magic. It wouldn't be terribly shocking if their line either didn't realize they were magic for most of it or had some generations of squibs. Almost certainly some would be magical but we don't really know when Hogwarts letters were sent to children by sensing magic potential. Along with that, this potential assumes the Ravenclaw line is in many ways accepting. An Obscurus wouldn't really be an issue.
(One last problem: Why didn't Helena ever say she had a kid as a ghost? I don't know but she also didn't tell people about the Horcrux but she knew about it and who Tom Riddle was. Also, the lore surrounding ghosts is weird. [I wouldn't be upset if you think Luna is the heir. I just think this lines up better personally.
[Sorry for how long this is. I don't really care too deeply if this gets likes but they make it more likely the SuperCarlinBrothers will see this. If you want to hear their thoughts make it more likely.
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Very nice
Very nice indeed
Extremely RUBBISH even more RUBBISH than these videos
@@KopKing11 dosen't matter its still RUBBISH
Plot twist: Harry is the chosen one but Neville is Gryffindor’s descendant
This should be a video they do
@Damian Ocampo I don’t think it’s canon but it would be a cool theory!
exactly plus Godrick could've slept around
Harry was chosen by Voldemort to defeat Voldemort, Neville was chosen by the death eaters to defeat the death eaters
@@gloriamcinerney7383 that's not a theory, thats a cannonical fact xD
Dubz tells that to Harry in the end of OotP
Won’t that mean Aberforth who didn’t die would be the only living heir
True
which also means that he needs to get BI-ZAY!!
@@Johnrich395 with a goat perhaps
@@harmanjotsingh4230 NO PLEASE NO!
@@loseftheman9474 yes please
Also, the sword came to both Harry and Neville right after they showed loyalty to Dumbledore.
The sword will present itself to any worthy Gryffindor. It doesn't matter who they are or who they are related to. Fawkes the pheonix comes to Harry because he stayed loyal to Dumbledore in the 2nd book and movie.
Neville did not show loyalty to Dumbledore. The man was dead and buried at that point. Harry showed loyalty to Dumbledore and Fawkes was able to bring him the hat. Valor is what reveals the sword to a true Griffindor.
@@megsesvids Yep; also though, what if Neville is Gryffindor's Heir or maybe the Weasleys'?!
@@morrigankasa570 I thought of Neville too. He's the truest lion in the lion house.
@@yawninglion1677 Though the Weasleys' might be the Gryffindor heir beyond that, if you also include that they all have Red Hair like Godric Gryffindor and remembering that Mrs. Weasleys' brothers fought so well & hard that it took 5 Death Eaters to defeat them and Godric was known to be an extremely great Duelist himself.
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"Sirius Black killed thirteen people!"
"No, it wasn't me it was Peter Pettigrew"
"How could it be him? He's dead, you killed him"
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Although Sirius didn't have visuals so.....
@@fabiomora6491
also sirius didn't even try to defend himself, he just stood there and laughed.
He didn’t turn into a rat, he vented! It all makes sense now
Radagast Ganondorf, the wizard who values oddity and malice. His animal is a Rhosgobel Rabbit.
I was so confused when I saw J in the Gryffindor shirt
Then I read the title
I was just going to say “nice touch with the shirt J”
why lol
@@Rachel-uy7pv I didn't read the title
Lol
Still waiting on a SuperCarlinBrothers produced, directed and written Hogwarts founder TV series
It'll never happen if they keep attacking jk Rowling who owns the copyright.
Definitely
@@drewpamon sadly that might be true
Bruh imagine there’s a tragic backstory of Slytherien losing his entire family to anti-wizard people and the only thing he had left was his locket. He goes to stay with his family’s friends the hufflepuffs who give him a bed and a place to stay until the anti-wizards track him there and burn down the house where Slytherien leaves with their only kid, a young girl named Helga who is obsessed with a cup for some odd reason. Right at the final confrontation there’s no escape as he and Helga are backed into a corner. The man raises how sword and prepares to cut them down, until there’s a clash as a young Godric comes to the aid of people who he doesn’t even know as wizards but he just sees as people in need. Also throughout the season we work in Ravenclaw somehow
Pancakes every Saturday!
Dumbledore is a great wizard because he inherited Gryffindor's magichlorians
lol great star wars reference
How dare you
Hahahahahahahahaha!
I was mad at first but now im pissing myself laughing 🤣
100%
The we found it “it was in Pennsylvania” call back had me wheezing I was laughing so hard
very underrated part of the video😂😂
Definitely
Hey I'm in Pennsylvania why didn't I find the sword :( if a Slytherin could find it fittingly a Hufflepuff should've found it. I mean. It's what we do.
I bet when Godric enchanted the sword to appear to Gryffindors in need that he got a lot of joy knowing the goblins would never be able to hold on to it.
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We took a gamble on Nevada, but found the sword in Pennsylvania
😂😂😂
lol
Referencing last weeks video.. nicely done ;)
After a looong search in Arizona and Georgia
The "griffin... door, if you will" line earned my like. Perfect
Maybe Griffendor was gay like albus.... and he views all his house as his kids and thats why the sword goes to any griffendor unlike the other house items that stay in the family
Ooooh, and maybe Slytherin and Griffindor's relationship was kind of a parallel to Dumbledore and Grindlewald's!
Maybe? 🤔
Love this theory
Also an heir/next of kin does not need to be a child of the deceased- the line could have continued through nieces or nephews, etc.
So building on this, maybe he was estranged from his biological family due to his sexuality, and even if he had blood relatives he willed all his belongings to Hogwarts, so the school is the only heir.
That sparkssome questions
Also also actually actually, isn’t Harry distantly related to Salazar Slytherin???
Like he is related to Ignotus Peverell, one of the three brothers. He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named is the descendant of the second brother, Cadmus Peverell. You-Know-Who is also a descendant of Salazar Slytherin. Sooooo you do the math.
Wait that makes sense right? They should really pay more attention to the math budget. Comment your thoughts!
One brother died the night his wand was stolen, the other brother died after using the stone.
Wouldn't only the one harry was related to have descendants? The cloak got passed on in the surviving line...
That's only true if it was through the paternal line. His mother could have been a Slytherin.
We know cadmus was an distant direct ancestor of gaunt mean he marry slytherin descendants so ignotus peverell wife could be godric Gryffindor?
Harry not being Gryffndor's heir plays up the whole 'its not who you are born, but your choices that count' school of thought.
"It was in Pennsylvania." LOL
"He was sus. Everyone voted wrong." You guys are killing me with the jokes tonight. I love them all!
Things I learned in the first two minutes: Salazar and Harry are relatives via the Peverells... I am so inexplicably glad to learn this.
so harry technacly is also slitherens air bc the peverals came AFTER salazar
bc harys grandad was a peveral and he whent to hogwarts
@@idiot528
I don't think Harry is Slytherin's Heir because Tom embodied the Slytherins more than Harry does. He had magical heritage - not pure but apparently that doesn't matter despite what Malfoy says- he was ruthless and cruel and cunning even before he started school on top of being part of Salazar's bloodline through the Gaunts, which Harry is not, and possessing the Parseltongue which Harry only got from the Horcrux.
Gryffin door
Dumble door
Yes I’m sold lol 😂
A little bit of math leads to nearly all purebloods being related to everyone in the founders time that had magical descendants.
What if all of the founders had a “secret” room, slitherin with the chamber of secrets, hufflepuff with the room that can be used to help any hog warts student in need of it, gryfindor with the headmasters office that literally has a griffin door and I’m not sure about ravenclaw, but does anyone else get my theory?
watch the "who is fawkes oringinal owner video?" ravenvclaw is room of req and hufflepuff is great hall and ur correct about griffindor and slytherin
My fav part of every episode is when jay mentions his kids. He’s such a proud dad 😁
10:50 hay Ben you forgot the moment when Neville pulled out the sword.
So how you going
I always felt that harry had Ron destroy the locket because of the lockets hold over Ron, and by him destroying it he broke all control it had over him
The reason why he was able to use the sword was because it was where it always belong when it’s not being used in Godrich Gryffindor‘s old room or “his secret room”
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J- "of course you do you read the title!"
Me- didn't read the title because I watch every video 👀
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@@catpiratepewe-ah3136 it started in a super early video of theirs entitled "42 uses for a towel" and it just stuck lol
@@nathanjplatt you have no idea how much it has driven me crazy looking for the video that started that saying
Political Compass Theory for the Hogwarts Houses:
Gryffindor: Authoritarian Left
Slytherin: Authoritarian Right
Hufflepuff: Libertarian Left
Ravenclaw: Libertarian Right
"sus" was a thing before that but the way I commonly heard it was as a way to call out somebody for acting gay.
I have a headcanon where when Dumbledore used to live in Gryffindor Tower as a student, his dormitory would eventually be the same one Harry and Ron would live in.
Imagine your the heir of Gryffindor fighting a horde of trolls off with your trusted blade when all of a sudden some kid a thousand miles away needs it and your sword vanishes from your grip.
I like to imagine that Griffindor married a muggle woman and that his children were Squibs who still managed to pass on some power magic genes to muggleborn witches and wizards many generations later. Dumbledor may be a direct descendant of Griffindor through a muggle line.
“A Phoenix will appear to any dumbledor in need” *faux comes to Harry in the chamber* HMMMMM
That’s because (according to a theory) dumbldore sent fawx
I always thought that the phoenix was related to Gryffindor!!!
"... the Griffin Door, if you will"
*OMFGLOL*
About the four founders. Gryffindor wasn’t the most noble. He only picked brave students. Slytherin picked only cunning and ambitious students. Ravenclaw only picked intelligent students. Hufflepuff took tithe lot and taught them everything she knew. It’s in the Sorring Hat’s song. It says, ‘I’ll take the lot and treat them just the same’ I guess that’s where loyalty originated from.
This is a pretty good theory, but Dumbledore wouldn't have necessarily needed the sword to destroy the ring. We all know Dumbledore had an insane arsenal of magic at his command. Me guess is he probably used that fire spell that got him and Harry out of that terrible lake, maybe even that fire spell that destroyed the diadem. We certainly wouldn't have to be worried that he wouldn't be able to control it the fire like Crabbe (or Goyle ) can never remember who is who.
I'm not trying to disprove the theory or anything, I just wanted to point out that Dumbledore would probably have no need of it. Him being an heir is still really cool though!
Radagast Ganondorf brings a delightful image to mind.
Ok knowing how pureblood lines work I think he could have multiple descendants. However Harry is possibly a descendant from what was thought to be an extinct line of Griffindore. It is fitting that his mother was buried in Godric’s Hollow. Also the Weaslys are related as well.
“T H E A U T H O R”
She Who Must Not Be Named...
They might not like her or agree with her but she DID create the series they are theorizing about
You dont hear people call H P Lovecraft "the author"
@@barryallen9932 I agree, it's better to just say "JK Rowling said ..." Instead of "the author said...", Separate the JK Rowling author from the JK Rowling the Twitterer
Daniel Ferreira Wonderful point, I also can understand why someone is confused, but there are many great videos about the effect her statements had. I do like and agree with your point
@@applepeachbirdduckmaster801 Many of those videos are classic "woke" overreactions to her statements.
Perhaps because Dumbledore wasn't the sword's master at the time he used it to destroy the Horcrux it still did it's job of being a sword but didn't extend protection to him from the effects of destroying a Horcrux. In which case if Harry had used the sword instead of Ron to destroy the locket he would have run the risk of being injured like Dumbledore (unless that little piece of Voldie hiding in Harry would have shielded him from the effect of the destruction.)
It's possible that Harry Potter and Dumbledore are related because of Godric Gryffindor.
Another similarity they share is to get into griffindor tower you must say a password to the fat lady. To get into dumbledores office you must also say a passcode to the gargoyle
“It was in Pennsylvania” made me choke on my ravioli
Already know I'm going to love this one!
Grindelwald is Ravenclaw's heir. I know he didn't go to Hogwarts but if he did he could have been Ravenclaw. Grindelwald is certainly powerful and clever and clearly values this quite a bit. I think this theory would be quite nice as it would stop the whole Griffendor Slitherin feud for a bit and focus some more attention on the other houses. (Also this would make a great fight between Jacob and Grindelwald.)
The "griffen knockers" just put the most disturbing image in my head
"peter pettigrew is suss isnt he?"
LOVE IT
I'm surprised you never mentioned Neville once whilst talking about people using the sword
Something I've noticed about the Hogwarts houses: Gryffindor, Hufflepuff, and Ravenclaw all have a warm yellowcolor as part of their scheme- Yellow, Gold, and Bronze. All Yellows.
Slytherin is the only one that doesn't- Green and Silver.
If Harry and Voldemort are both descended from the Peverell family, would that mean Voldemort and Harry are… (insert Dom Toretto music) Family
I still think Harry was related to Godric Gryffindor. Maybe not directly, but I do think he has a connection there. I mean all the Potters lived in Godric's Hollow, so did the Peverell brothers. I think there is a link there, even if it not direct.
We know cadmus nd brother was an distant direct ancestor of gaunt mean he marry syltherin descendants so ignotus peverell wife could be godric Gryffindor descendants?
I think I can explain dumbledore using the sword, I believe in his time of need, he didn't get the sword out of the displaycase, I think he pulled the sword out of the sorting hat which is literally on the shelf on top of his throne chair thing near his desk
There was in fact 2 relics of Griffindor left behind. The Sorting hat was also Griffindors (cannon by the Sorting Hat's own song in The Goblet of Fire ""yet how to pick the worthy ones when they were dead and gone? Twas Griffindor who found the way he whipped me off his head. the founders put some brains in me so I could choose instead"
The Sword is linked to the hat. hence it teleports back to the hat when it is called for. and Dumbledore says in book 2 when he is arrested "Help will always be given at Hogwarts to those who ask for it"
Harry asks for help with the hat. sword appears.
Neville asked for help - Sword appeared.
The hat lives in Dumbledore's office. it is entirely possible he asked it for help to destroy a horcrux.
all of which happen on Hogwarts grounds.
the only act of valor seems to be to pass the sword to someone who is not at Hogwarts.
Wasn’t the headmaster when dumledoor was just a professor named headmaster gryfindoor or something
Edit: nvm it was divven or dippen something like that
If godric had a sword a hat and a Phoenix Salazar had a ring a locket and a basilisk, what would the other two have as their other items? I'm guessing ravenclaw actually having a raven and a broach that wards minor spells when worn. Helena would have a magical tap, plug it into anything and it will pour a large quantity of an appropriate fluid ie. Put it in a tree and get syrup, into an orange for orange juice, into an olive for olive oil, and while she would have a badger as her boon companion to help her find honey, she would also have other animal companions like a boar to sniff for truffles, and squirrels or other rodents to gather nuts. Very much radaghast the brown but cleaner and with a penchant for all things cooking
The sword thing with Dubledore destroying the ring is most easily explained by Dumbledore destroying the ring to take the curse himself was itself an act of true bravery.
DO THIS VIDEO: If Gryffendor's sword presents itself in moments of bravery, and the Diadem gives the wearer wisdom, what do the cup and locket do?? Hepzibah says that both supposedly have all sorts of powers, but we never learn what they are....
Radagast Gandendorf. . . lol thank you for making a LOTR reference! I've been hoping you guys would one day do something with LOTR- you branched off and added ATLA videos this year, why not some Tolkien too?
I think Dumbledore could use the sword because the ring almost took his life right away. I imagine it that way that Dumbledore after finding the ring he put it on his hand (just like the trio kept the locket close.) And the Ring imediatly cursed him so his body would slowly deciece. Before it would reach vital organs he pulled the sword from it's holding and then distroyed the ring. The curse did it's damage still and snape reduced it at his best knowledge, but I imagine it was a matter of seconds before the ring got distroyed. So Dumbledore was in fact in a lifethreatening situation and yould use the sword.
So I am thinking that maybe that Jacob is hufflepuff and I think that it’s Luna Lovegood or, yes, I know that she is not in revenclaw but maybe Lisa lastrenge.
Was it ever explained why Snape left a fake sword in Bellatrix's locker? Because that might have something to do with it, what if it was the real sword somehow, and they were getting rid of it so that Dumbledore could pull it out of the hat again?
Every time J picks up the sword of Gryffindor, I get nervous for his hands
Honestly, I think that Dumbledore, should have been in Slytherin. When he was young, he and Grindlewald dreamed of uniting the Deathly Hallows and taking over the world so wizards would be in charge. If that does not scream ambitious I don't know what does. He also won every prize the school had to offer, and went on to become possibly the greatest wizard of all time. It wasn't until later in his life when he had a change in heart and basically became a whole new person, if he had been resorted after his change of heart for some reason then he would likely be in Gryffindor though. This is a massive over simplification but I think it pretty much sums it up.
Slytherin: Purebloods are the strongest!!
Voldemort: Purebloods are the strongest!! (Even though he 100% knows that he himself is a halfblood. What gives???)
And three of the strongest in the series Harry, Voldemort and Snape are halfbloods! (Harry is a 3/4blood) Irony much?
How does the sword decide who is worthy of it, who is a true gryffindor? Doesn’t it need some sort of conscious for that? Or how does it work? Is there a video about that already and I missed it ??
Imagine being one of this man's children. Those are three lucky kids
9:28 - sus was a thing before among us :) but the word was further popularized by the game. i definitely said sus before among us.
around the 8:20 mark you state Dumbledore is the most outspoken for muggleborns. in the Modern era yes. but originally was very Wizards are best too, same as Voldemort. And I feel this fits your theory better, as this is probably what caused the Schism with Griffindor and Slytherin in the first place. -Both were powerful pure blood families, and It is cannon that if all wizards from that era had remained pure blood they would have died out ages ago (said by Sirius Black in book 5) perhaps Griffindor would of preferred it originally, but saw the logic of keeping magic flowing and the necessity to mix with muggles.
Dumbledore certainly agreed with this line of thinking, he co-conspired with Grindlewald to that end, and intended to keep muggles in line, especially after what had happened to his sister at the hands of muggles. Dumbledore only broke this line of thinking when it was Magic purebloods that killed Arianna (even if they don't know whose hand) it was only going to be him, Aberforth or Grindlewald.
Dumbledore constantly turned down the minister for magic role, because he thought it would be bad influence on him, as he had previously been corrupted by power, and therefore preferred to teach. And the Elder wand again is a symbol of that, he says it was the only hallow he was allowed to have, as he tried to abused the stone and ended up cursed, and the cloak didn't work for him, and the wand was the only one he had earned, as he took it so that worst evil could not be done from it, as he had learnt what Grindlewald was capable of, and knew what he intended to do with that power.
Additionally, you can only bequeath a gift to someone in your Will if you own it. That’s probably why he felt comfortable bequeathing it to Harry. The Ministry of Magic was not aware of his Gryffindor lineage
Okay okay my theory why fawkes came down to the chamber of secret is because of harry's wand!
There is this thing called twin wands wich are two wands that share the same core from the same magical animal. It's said that those twin wands share a connection to each other because they have the same core
Does that mean that the magical animal that has given a wand core have a connection with that particular wand???
If sooo... harry's wand has phoenix feather core that came from fawkes wich mean fawkes has a connection to that wand and would have a strong connection to harry
But there is another wand that has a Phoenix feather core from fawkes and that is the tom riddle's wand!! Wich means fawkes also has a connection to that particular wand and also would have build a connection to Tom riddle over the years!
So don't you think fawkes would know when one of "his" wands would change owners??? Especially when it changes to someone he knows. For example when Tom riddle picked up harry's wand????
I think Tom riddle gave away his presence when he picked up harry's wand. And fawkes recognize Tom riddle like an old friend and came to aid harry straight away. And this is the best part!! Fawkes brought the sword of gryffindor with him because he knew harry didn't have his wand and would be completely defenseless without the means to fight!!
I came up with this theory myself so please tell me if there already is a theory out there like this one :)
I feel like the fact that the sword passes itself down to worthy Gryffindors is evidence to show that Godric did not have any blood decendants. Instead he saw all Gryffindors as his decendents because in a way, they are.
I'm writing a fanfic where it's revealed my OC is Dumbledore's great niece (so Aberforth's grandfather). This means she is related to Gryffindor, that's so cool! Love this theory.
Maybe Harry and Dumbledore were distant nephews of Godric Griffindor OR maybe they are more closely connected to the spirit of Griffindor than most people in their (Griffindor) house? just a couple of ideas.
Just a little loophole I noticed: By the logic that Harry Potter would have to re-prove that he is worthy to wield the sword, wouldn’t that mean that Dumbledore could have done the same when he wants to use it to destroy the ring? Since Harry was the last person to become its master, Dumbledore proves himself again as worthy and becomes the master and uses the sword to destroy the ring. Which is why Harry needs to do it all over again.
What do you guys think about Johnny Depps firing from Fantastic Beasts 3
Yeah man, it's sad...
He also leaves the sword behind for Harry in his will
imagin dumbledore steals the sorting hat before one of his Triwizard tourney matches and pulls out the hat then sword form hat during and then everyone clapped
This makes even more sense, because Dumbledore gave the sword to Harry as an inheritance. This was blocked because Dumbledore supposedly didn't have the right. BUT TURNS OUT HE DID. Dumbledore was the heir to Griffindor, so he had the right give away the sword.
I had ALWAYS thought Dumbledore was Gryffindor's heir.
What I want to know is why Gryffindor had a sword when 1. All the others had jewellery and 2. He uses magic.
Don't see how anyone would think this idea is farfetched.
Not gonna lie, the among us side chat got me good lol.
Well at the start there is already a large attack on the already wrong assumption of Harry being the heir.Neville also pulled it out and so did many others before and Harry and Neville.
And Voldemort was a descendant of cadmus pevverel(second pevverell bro) because the gaunt family had the ring and voldy was a descendant of that family and In the ring there was the stone so Harry and voldy are related
You. Griffin-dor dumbel-dore me. Called it.
My first Theory was that McGonagall was Gryffindor's heir and Snape was slytherin's (But then I read the second book)
griffin-door hit me hard
Yeah, if ol' Dumby knew he was a Gryffindor, we'd know too. I don't think he'd ever shut up about it, despite not talking very much to begin with.
One little question, maybe I just miss video on this, but do we know if Dumbledore was sorted to Gryffindor? From what I know about young Dumbledore he fits most to the Slytherin as he was one of the most ambitious wizards ever?
Ah, yes, the GriffinDOOR. I was waiting for you to use that xd
Given that they're both gingers, I'm surprised you didn't suggest that Ron is Gryffindor's heir. (maybe not through Arthur, but by Molly, perhaps?)
Neville is the chosen one, but because him and Harry have the same birthday, everyone assumed the prophecy was about Harry.
sus is definitely a super old thing, my grand-dad said sus once and he lives on a mountain with no internet
Okay possible Ravenclaw heir, Grindelwald. If he went to hogwarts my hunch he would have been sorted into ravenclaw. He has the wits and creativity, the whole recruitment in crimes of grindelwald is proof and not to mention the obvious affinity he has with 'Ravens'
Harry should've been able to speak partialtounge even if Voldemort didn't gave him his powers, because
Harry is decendant of Ignotus Perevell and
Voldemort is decendant of Cademus Perevell so if Harry and Voldemort are distant relatives from same family and Voldemort is Salazaar Slitherin's Decendant, that means that Harry is also Slitherin's decendant making him Partialmouth!!!
Dumbledore may have known he was Gryffindor's descendant. That's why he bequeathed it in his will. Why would he do that with something that is obviously a historical relic unless he knew it belonged in his family. It makes sense. That would also be why he knew it would work when he used it to destroy the ring without having earned it through an act of bravery.