5 MISTAKES New Growers Make with LED Grow Lights
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I always adjust the distance based on the ppfd light reading, it's the only way to be sure. As for "Cheap Lights" I've been growing with LED's for the last 5 years, and I did not purchase expensive lights. Picked up 1 Mars-Hydro TS-600 for about $70. It works good with great results. So I bought another, and am now growing under two of them. I have less than $500 into my tent, lights, fans and other equipment, and the harvest are plentiful and potent! I now grow the best quality I've ever grown, and have been growing since the 70's.
Mars is awesome, first try growing indoors i got the TSL2000 tent setup this september, im trimming tasty nugs as we speak. common sense and good seeds is the main thing
Better you use DLI to adjust distance. And you are 100% right about mars hydro they a good lights i use viparspectra XS 1500 and thé p1000 and thé results are amazing.
Mars-hydro are very affordable but they are far from being cheap . And they have a good reputation from consumers. I have the Mars-hydro T-2000 and I’m very satisfied with its performance. I’ve noticed there are a few designer lights out there that are way overpriced but I’d rather stay with what is proven to be effective.
You cheapo like this guy said don't buy cheap lights fool 😂
Hey there i also have 2 ts600 from mars hydro what height do you set them at for optimal growth
Cannabis is a c3 plant and does not require dark cycles during vegetative stage - it is able to perform all of its metabolic functions under 24 hours of light without any drawbacks. the only reason to give vegging cannabis dark during veg is to save on electricity costs related to lighting/AC, however there is an argument that under 24 hours of light you can shorten the total days of veg required, which leads to an equivalent savings of electricity when switching to 12/12 for flower early. IMO the only reason to go 18/6 for veg and not 24hrs is if you are on tiered electricity pricing and see substantial savings by not having the lights/ac running during peak usage times
Am 6 weeks into veg will it be ok to change form 18 hrs to 24 mid veg ?
@Blazeproudman I've done it before with no problems but I vegged for 2 weeks after. Maybe it could shock them if you only do a few days then switch to 12.
Excellent video. I would suggest add some discussion regarding humidity levels in the tent.ing
Agree with you on quality too , Ive had 3 mars Hydro lights & all have had electrical issues , Ive still got the 2 viparspectra Lights i started with & they work great still after 3 years & My AC Infinity Evo 8 I feel i will have forever as its so efficient in power & the quality is outstanding . 😎
Snap and Mars hydros customer service Is terrible
I've never had an issue with mars hydro lights even my very first mars light is still going strong no problems just fatty nugs.
lucky you .. @@smokegasplaynintendo5767
Thanks that was handy
HLG 600R an Ac infinity ionframe6 are absolutely amazing lights, just wish HLG could remove driver as gets bit warm during summer especially living in very hot place
Hyphotonflux , and aglex have been treating me very well! So far I’m on my second grow w them. And for the price I don’t care if I don’t get another one., looking to get some new ones for my new tents anyway
I run all spectrums through the whole process I run 18-6 it works fine
The uva uvb light information was extremely beneficial, thanks a ton.
Glad it was helpful!
UV light intensity does not get messured with PPFD / PAR Meters.
Just a "good to know"
@@anneStrackRheinmetall I only run the uv 1 hour a day in flower
@@anneStrackRheinmetallIf the meter has an ePAR setting, for "extended PAR", I know they detect IR, and I'm pretty sure any UVA/UVB, that plants can use for photosynthesis.
Just learned about this from a very recent MIGRO Channel episode. Shane interviews Bruce Bugbee, creator/owner of Apogee Instruments, who explains his newest Meter, with ePAR and more.
Mr Bugbee is popularly known as a scientist, doing space farming with NASA, and at Utah State University, where he's The Director of The Crop Physiology Laboratory. And what crop? Hemp, of course!
He's been working with low THC plants for several years, now, and always in a controlled environment. He was getting funding from NASA only, but now it's half NASA, half Cannabis people.
It's a really great interview, and within the last week, I believe..?! MIGRO Channel's Home page under "videos", and should show up near the top of the list. Highly recommended when you have the time.👍💯🙏✌️
Excellent info, thanks for sharing. I'm waiting for seeds to get in this Tuesday. I'm going to be growing outside in a greenhouse. I'm assuming that the natural sunlight light will be sufficient to cover this whole spectrum of lights the plants need, after all, it's plant's natural light lol.
I will have solar fans in the greenhouse for air circulation. I don't want mold issues 🤦
Great video. Especially for new LED growers. Finding the right height was the one that I messed with longer than I would have liked when I first started using LED. Manufacturers recommendations and ePar readings are all well and good, but in real world use it's the plants themselves who decide. I find the Manufacturers recommendation on height is always so far off that I have no idea how they get their number. I start with ePar readings and adjust from there. I normally end up in the 16-18 inch range all through seedling and veg stages. I sit at 25% for seedlings and 50% for veg.
25% for seedlings ? i am having problems with seedlings stunting or just stopping after the first set of leaves but ive got my xs1000 at 70% ....can they get too much light in the first 2 weeks?
@@NOT_SURE..
Yes. Seedlings need less light because they're developing roots.
@@HLBNZ could too much led light cause them to go into shock ? IF i do get one to grow its stunted all the way through, Im trying some proper high grade seeds and root juice
liked and subbed thanks mate :) - from australia
I made a plant turn yellow, that’s how I learnt
I built my own lights using 4 QB 648 boards with heat sinks perfectly spaced and mounted on a aluminum frame. I have a 8' 4x4 Gorilla tent and I mounted the HLG-600H-54AB Meanwell driver outside the tent on the wall. I have a apogee PAR meter to help me set light intensity and height with the ratchet ropes. I am in my first grow and 19 days into flower par is 900-1000 lights are 18-24 inches above plants temp is held steady at 73 degrees. plants love it.
Lol hu? I can't even get past your first line.. 4 quantum board 648 boards. Wtf dude. This isn't as complex as u dorks try to make it
I’ve flowered autoflowers in same tent as photos and there was zero difference maybe she took a few days longer but I was super impressed either way how dank and potent she was. I learned not to play with auto when they are grow. I don’t even LST them just let em grow. I did it to prove to my friend that photos can grow just as fast and give you bigger yields and u can clone. So I vegged the tent with 2 auto 2 photos. I flipped the tent when the autos started to flower So it was a 26 day veg and my photos were 2 x as big but I was impressed with the potency of the auto flowers they were super frosty 84 days for the autos and 95 days from seed to harvest was photos so I truly believe newbies should learn on photos and not autos, there will be more upset people than happy
And yes the autos were finished about 10 days before the photos but they did have about 2 weeks of flowering head start on photos cause they take 14 to show Sex
I grow them together too. But I flip to flower when the autos are done that way they get hours of light, which means bigger yields. And you get a mini harvest to enjoy while you wait for the photos to finish.
Using 2 gerylove 1000 in 2x4 at the moment, be interesting to see how they do and they were cheap
What type of light is in the video? I looks killer. Thanks. Right now in my 5 x 5, I run a medic grow smart 8 which is a damn good light.
If all you intend to do is start plants for transplanting outdoors you don't need grow lights and can get much cheaper lights without the word "grow" in front of them. 5000K, 5000 lumen works. Don't have other light sources hitting this grow area especially when the lights aren't on.
That's it.
do you have spectrum needs for each stage? you showed one, but i dont know for which stage it's for.
Great info , shout out from New Hampshire
Great video , but even some of the best companies led lights crap out and take 1 month to replace ballast, this in mid flower is the worst
I did a side by side with the same strain "Critical " one with 72 hours of darkness and one with 12 on and 12 off. I see a density increase in the 72 off. I personally prefer the 72 off. But to each there own.
If i can find the study again ill send it but potency decreases a lot after 48hours of darkness. You are better off with 12/12 or 24hours of light to finish with, and if you want to increase your yield do your first 4 weeks of flower as 14on/10off
@@evzevz06 That makes so much sense , Once they are triggered to flower it's ingrained , so pushing the day length a little can only result in more material , but too much more for too long will 'untrigger ' them and make veg th priority :)
After figuring this out mostly on my own. You said it, way too quickly about 800 to 1000 par no matter what size room or tent those plants need that much during flower corner to corner 😉 thanks
Migro aray 5x5 💪🏻🙌🏻👌🏻
one mistake i made is when i started out i bought good quality lights being Viparspectra but the lights were not big enough for my space , So better to buy an over sized light than a smaller one as you can always turn down a bigger or more powerful light .
Or you just research the best light for ur space
i think there is a lot more info about today, when i started not a massive amount of info about & agree do some research ..@@Jaccson121
strain tailored vpd and UVC
I just switched from Bestva to NextLight. In 2 days, I have noticed a rise in heat. And a demand for more water. I am 22" from the canopy. I have concerns I may not have enough red?😢
How to get my room up to 88 degrees to get Leaf temps to 80 but in my grow tent only need is 82. So check your Leaf Temps you can't trust ambient air
Leaf surface temperatures is a problem with led lights. How energy efficient are they if you heat your grow space to 85 to get a leaf temp of 75? Most people are not thinking about leaf surface temps and VPD. Black Dog LED and Kind LED recommend ambient room temp of 85 but Spider Farm recommends room temp of 75. I’m not sure how well known this problem is. Hopefully this will be debunked or they’ll start designing led lights that can heat the leaf surface better
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No... Autoflowers do NOT require 18/6 lightcycles...
Thats why we have them in the first place...
Autoflowers do grow and change to flowering independent of the light cycle
Hello, are you shipping to malaysia ?
Sup Eric I hear from other growers that his give better quality in the bud as In effects!!! Is this true ? I here if you use both hid and led and I will be happy what double end brand would you recommend and ballast that’s best for my 6x6 room
I recommend any fixture using only Samsung lm301h EVO diodes 3500°K is the best yielders! 6x6 = 36 x 30w = 1080w...18 x 60w QB's = 1400/1500$ delivery included! Maybe you live in a very cold area that's why you still want to use this old tech who produces more heat than light intensity...
I started indoor in 2005 with T5 or T9 can't remember then I tried 250w hps 400w 600w mh fluo almost everything except convection (like a round fluo half white half blue/purple)...and in 2014 I made thanks to the DIY led community on rollitup my first Cree cobs cxb3590 CD @1400mA fixture that still works well I made more for me and some friends then I switched to the first iteration of the QB's then the one with lm301b now I have some lm301h and I plan on building a 10x10 with Samsung lm301h EVO 60w QB's 3500°K nothing else...I keep notes of every run I make since 2007 so I know when I increase my dry weight since everything else is the same when I change 1 thing in my grow I will be able to notice...at the end of my hps period I was able to pull 0,7/0,8gp (no a/c no co2 organic since 2013 and living soil since 2016!)when I switched to led first run quick veg I pulled 1,3gpw and after 1,4gpw on average the next fixture brought me to 1,5gpw next 1,6gpw and actually I pull 1,7/1,8gpw on average...I want to be able to pull 2gpw on average when I will get the new EVO diodes...I heard people are pulling almost 3gpw 2,7 exactly with those diodes a/c co2 the right clones coco coir and heavy feeding...when I started outdoor in 1997 1gpw indoor was an urban legend even early 2000 and now newbies are able to do it first grow with LEDs...
And you will have to change bulbs every year or 1.5 year same with the reflector 3 or 4 years max with this heat...when underpowered LEDs last 10+ years...I will use those 60w QB's at 30w...yes I will have 100 panels in the 10x10😊
Have a lifted one and lots of good vibes from France growers family
My man
The only thing you need to chack after lights out, is that theres no light leaks, never trust the green light.
One scratch and thats regular light shining through.
The distance to the plant roof is the most important thing! LED light doesn't penetrate as deeply as that of these lamps! That's why 1500 ppfd on the tips of can is best as it still supplies the lower shoots with a good 750 ppfd! That's my experience, but I also use co2 (air bombz and co2 boost!) even if I don't reach 32° Celsius! And I think the result can be seen! Good succeed! (mars hydro fce4800, lumen king 630, niello, cob and no names led's from wish and temu,! The secret is to compensate with cheap LEDs, but low watts, where there isn't enough light!
gotta scrog, my dawg!
unless you're growing in a sealed room, co2 "boosts" only "boost" your cost.
@@ModMax69 nah all depends on what you doing, i just top a few times and with the help of a clone tent to get a head start i get just over an oz a week on avg using a 300 watt.there is no right or wrong or gotta anything.
I agree with everything you except cannabis having a roof. I've had different pheno take and use different ppfd . I have pheno that can take all 2200 ppfd. Remember a good de hps can put out 2300 ppfd and I still use those in the winter. There is no one size fits all ppfd.
if you are using led you might be missing out with one giant cola but I feel you. flat canopy has worked for me @@mvsmvs8428
Also. Not all light wattage is the same. Putting a 100 watt light close to the plant while using a par meter to get dli isn’t right. You would run a 300 or bigger light at 30-50 % but on a little 100 watt you need more distance and more light like 60-100 percent. Learned that the hard way. Leads to over watering looking problems. Please feel free to chime in and share some more knowledge
I’m trying to grow a horse chestnut tree sapling but I barely get any sun where I am. Any recommendations on what light to get for my sapling.
Please email us at info@ledgrowlightsdepot.com for further assistance. Thanks!
If its just one plant, then a cheap 80-100w LED should work just fine for the first weeks and months.
If you Just need an extra light in your Greenhouse as an additional light source to the sun,
then a 100w LED will be enough to support larger plants
Build your own led lights you’ll save money and get a better light in the end. Companies like hlg sell their refurbished boards for like $20 you can build a 5x5 tent light for less then $200
A dimmer on your light is a must if using it for full plant life cycle.
Wrong. The correct ppfd can be achieved by having the light at the proper distance
@@warriorxtman2 In my grows with limited height a dimmer makes things much easier. In a perfect world a dimmer is not needed but it sure makes things easier. Sometimes you get a stretcher that gets too close to the lights, dim or burn your choice...
@@warriorxtman2 Can be achieved, but not under all circumstances. Even light distribution can be very important.
@@warriorxtman2 if you have space for it
I am running in $20 Harbor freight grow light with no issues. I have a short posted on youtube feel free to watch.
Ive always vegged under 24 hours of light using MH lamps. There is no such thing as too long of a photoperiod during the veg stage.
Same just to insure I don’t have herms going into flower. I’ve done this for 16 years
💯 bro theres so many kooks out there like the guy on this channel talking bs like they know better, look at his vid its all copy paste nothing he's grown himself major red flag 😂
Amazing 100% subbing up good job 🎉🎉❤
Eww
There's so much conflicting information out there though. One grower says they only use $15 LED shop lights and another says that high-end $$$$ grow lights are the way to go. As a new indoor gardener who only has TH-cam videos as a means to learn this craft, what do I do?
depends entirely what you are growing.. If you are growing lettuce the shop lights are fine but if you plan to have any fruiting or flowering plants [such as cannabis] the shop light will do fuck all.
Mars hyrdo T600 100watt 60$ on their website now i got it last weeo ❤
that fine for clones and veg, but if you plan to flower anything under 100w you are better of smoking your lawn mate.
@@Mikael-jt1hk haha you must not know shit about growing
I got some amazing Frosty dank buds going under my TS600 it's all about skills & Nutrients
As a new grower, im glad i didn't make any of these mistakes.
Good info Eric #Teamoptic
What's the light at 1:26 with the IR knob?
It is the ThinkGrow Model-H: www.ledgrowlightsdepot.com/products/thinkgrow-led-model-h-grow-light
Optic led has great lights only problem is it took 6 months to get replacement parts but I will give it to them they did send me 6 replacement parts which gave me a brand new light cause I have slim 480H
I have 2 options for flowering. Full spectrum with alot of red or Red/white with alot of red . What's best for flowering?
what's the difference between full spectrum and white?
Just white doesn't have the red and blue that full spectrum has .@@exshenanigan2333
Full spectrum with alot of red
@@andreabc1469 what's the difference between a white light and a full spectrum light?
Lots of red for flowering
Is Lumatek a good brand?
Yes mate they are a very good brand, possibly the best.
Ive got the lumatek zeus pro 600w 2.7, its an animal of a light !
I would be very careful with the intenstity of these lights though. Ive also found that hanging height should be almost double what the manufacturer states.
Start it off using only 25% power and hang at about 100 - 120cm from seedlings.
As the seedlings get bigger over a week or 2, lower the lights down to about 60 - 50cm still at 25% power.
Keep the lights at about 50 - 40cm hanging height at 25% power for atleast another couple of weeks of veg, until they get bigger. Then you can bump the power up to 50% but start hanging the light from about 80cm above canopy and let the vegging plant grow into the lights but just be very careful and watch out for light bleeching and red streaks on stems from too much light.
You will never need to go more than 50% power throughout veg and could probably get away with only using 25% throughout veg but you’d have to drop the lights to about 30 - 40cm from canopy. Im not sure the penetration potential would be that good at 25% though so like i said, after a week or 2 into veg, bump up to 50%.
My lights are currently at 70cm in veg and are thriving. I started them at 80cm and they have grown 10cm already into the light.
Im keeping a close eye on the plants for any bleeching now.
When you are ready to flip to flower, id still keep the lights on 50% but lower the lights to the canopy where its comfortable. At this stage you will probably be hanging them around 60 - 50cm, maybe lower if the plants will take it.
Then when the buds form after about 3 - 4 weeks of flower, i bump the lights to 75% power and raise the lights about 80cm from top of canopy to start with. If the plants still look good then lower slightly until you feel they are in their prime.
You will only then turn the lights to 100% for the last 2 weeks of flower but be extremely careful as these lights at full power can easily burn the plants.
Most importantly, keep the humidity levels at 65 - 70% from seed, all the way up until week 2 of flower, then lower it week by week, 65%, 60%, 55%, 50%, 45%, 40% ( final week of flower ) hope this helps 👍🏼
I have grown outdoors and indoors for well over fifteen to twenty years. And single handedly the worst thing people do is over feed and over water. Remember less is more. If your grow room is uncomfortable for you then your plants will also be miserable.
Electric Sky was the best light. Such a powerful light for what it is ...Ive tried them all..Chill ...Optic ..Mars..Gavita...so pissed Electric Sky closed down...they were showing off there new led..then boom gone ...I will say im shocked at AC infinity and the Vipra Spectre 1000 pro i believe it is...Do u guys have any suggestions...money isnt a problem..what do you think is a 300 or less what led...
I have an Electric Sky, and I'm using it right now, only on its 5th grow. Did you notice the part on this video where he says too much red and far red in the spectrum can lead to stretching? Right when he says that, an image of the ES 300 spectrum appears! It's the exact image I have of a screen shot I took from the Green Sunshine Company website before they went out of business, and guess what? I've been having issues with stretchy seedlings, even after adjusting the ppfd. Temps, humidity, soil, watering etc. all in proper range, but still some bad leggy stretching. yet not all strains stretched. Looking at Migro lights right now, also ThinkGrow and Grandmaster LEDs.
@@Rohmtschen stretching???? Give me your email I'll send you pics...your doing something terribly wrong...I have the TIGHTEST stacked nodes POSSIBLE..DO NOT USE THE STUPID guide Electric Sky used on the knob...it's a joke...I have ot cranked at 30 inches...and have 9 inch buds .. STACKED tight as can be 0 stretch give me an email and your jaw will drop...this is off a es 180 v3 am es 300 your definitely doing something ohhhhh so wrong with all due respect
@@Rohmtschen migro doesn't compare to ES I have both...your comparing an anus to a vagina..both holes but one stinks
I highly recommend the vipraspecta P2000 for 199.99 you can't go wrong, I've been running it for my last 3 shows and have had amazing results
HLG 325 Max for 3x3x6 amazing results for me. Very Happy.
I have 2 grow lights from Harbor freight for $20 each.
Am I have amazing production out of my plants. Planted last weekof December. I posted a short on youtube showing from december till now.
I have a question: LED manufacturer suggests "12 height at 75% for veg and "12 height and 100% for flower. When growing a sativa and flip to flower should one run at 75 or 100 for the stretch?
do you want it to stretch? If not, I would flower with a veg light for the first week. Also, I've had success with 24 hours of darkness before starting the 12/12 cycle to jumpstart the flowering
@@ModMax69 I'm trying out a MH FC3000 LED. My experience comes from indica, super soils, and uninhibited space going into a tiny tent with sativas; hoping FFOF doesn't burn them up.. My aim is to minimize stretch without the light burning them up, too.
Pest prevention
Autoflowers can run on 24/0 from start to finish.
Yes, but you can give them some rest. It might not be beneficial with 24/0. 20/4 is possible too.
@@suki4410 plants are not humans. They dont need ''rest'' 🤣🤡
My plants grow the most during the dark phase. Every morning I check they explode. They don't grow that much during day time
@@Mikael-jt1hk Like any living being, they do need rest.
@@Mikael-jt1hk every living thing benefits from a rest 💚
Why do people have a problem with cheaper lights I have 2 80 dollar lights and they work great
I get down with the cheapest spider farmer lights that aren’t even adjustable. Huge colas size of your fist. I don’t even PH water just use tap
Can a light cause appliances to short out? I just purchased an Evo 6 recently. I fear it, &or my space heater, are the cause of the fridge shorting out. The appliance is fairly new (few years old), the grow light purchased black Friday installed a couple weeks ago. This issue didn't happen when I was using a lower wattage light(120w maximum) at full power & space heater simultaneous. The Evo hasn't been higher than 3 on the dial. So I figured it comparable wattage to the older light. The fridge will still sort with only the light(as well).
There are too many amps on the circuit. You will need to plug something into another electrical circuit in your home.
@@Ledgrowlightsdepot I think it was a bad circuit/fuse in the appliance. The faulty piece in the fridge was replaced. And no issues as of the moment. Also, the fridge would short without (both) the light OR space heater on.
As Always each to their own for growing 🌱🌍 But Imo a "commen" mistake is to think it's "ok or ok'ish for short periods" to use a green light during lights off 🌱🌌 Because green light actually Penetrates DEEPER into the plants foliage than other spectrums 🌱👀 & so I personally would Never use a green light at night 🌌🌱 Happy growing everyone 🌱🌍
Great thought! From what I've heard our eyes can pick up green the easiest allowing us to use a much lower light intensity and still be comfortable. Let us know if there is any research showing where they things would cross over, that would be great! :D
Green is reflected and not absorbed by the plant so it doesn’t matter if it goes deeper .
@@sicuro5050 it actually by some degree Penetrates straight through the leaf structure & out the other side & science has proven plants Do use the green spectrum 🌱👀
@@sicuro5050 this.
otherwise, the plants wouldn't look green, but black instead.
I was given warning that i would be raided, i decided to dump my lights, 6 Lumatek 600 Pros in my lake behind my house. They spent 6 weeks in 3 meters of water! I recovered them and all worked after only waiting a day to drain the light rails. The drivers were waterproof. So maybe thet should add a new quality factor, immersion resistance. The raid never happened 😂, back to square one now.
Raided? Russia or UFOs?
haha classic! 😂
Lights aren't illegal.
You smoking pcp
@@english1midlandsI know, but they form part of a picture, suddenly you are on the radar.
Plants do see green light.
LEDs produce the same btus per watt..you use less watts than bulbs
I like viparspectra but I really like spider farmer myself
I heard 10 % of the wattage
Cannabis does not need a sleep period
Guys SANSI 36W LIGHTS ARE GOOD? PLEASE ANSWWE ME IF SOMEONE KNOW. ❤❤🎉🎉
Great video, still not convinced. The cost and power use is comparable to HPS AND MH.
Why LED? They run cooler?
This is wrong. LEDs are duble as efficient as high pressure sodium lights! LED have two times more light with the same wattage, or you can use less watt with the same amount of light.
All you have to do is simple math to prove you wrong 😂
you are very right, the biggest factor missing in LED in my eyes is the infrared heat. If you compare HPS and LED side by side, plants under HPS look slightly bigger and the internodium is slightly longer. I have seen top LED lights in perfect environment not producing more per watt than HPS. Big industrial growers still use HPS why should they if LED is better? For me the only good argument is if you have a heat problem and you're enclosure gets above 28°C (82,4°F).
@@suki4410leds don't produce as good a bud as Hps and MH and CMH. Leds aren't great atol.
Led grow light push is all about the climate change hoax. End of
What do you recommend for a 5x5 tent? I want to get an ac infinity, i have the uis system
Grab an SE7000 755 watts
What about using heat mats? This video seems to be geared towards pot heads.
Biggest mistake is to think you can measure amount of photons in percent of unknown wattage... And using a potmeter to do so...
No one really tap on the importance of UV light during flowering,
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3500°k only for everything...you can't go wrong...only Samsung lm301h EVO nothing else and you get 2gpw on average! 30w per sq/ft is more than enough...but 20w per sq/ft is way enough now!
I used 8 dif brand/model of leds over past 7 yearz and as long as PPFD is on point they do just as good under Chinese LEDs as Samsungs just get a little more light with 301b/h which costs more $. I bought a hundred lights I might care but not just a few also I've had expensive lights break just like cheap ones ironically some of my cheap lights never had problems
how do you get a grow light with only 3500k 301h EVO LEDs? are there any instructions on the internet to purchase the strips and the drive to build one? I'm looking for a grow light with 3500K EVO LEDs (with or without 660nm red LEDs) but without any 5000K LEDs.
@@exshenanigan2333 DIY LED Grow Light for SEED to Harvest EP1
@@Mike-ms6he I'll check it out, thank you!
CalMag deficiency? Ignoring VPD? Running the grow space too cool and too dry?
yep. just listening to this guy has pump products written all over him. Definitely getting paid by sponsors. A true horticulturist wouldn't dissuade other options out there. Nor consider that not everyone out there is growing weed. My lights work great to get plants ready for 3 months prior to planting in garden. there's lots of options out there. And this video is the last option I would consider.
Led are overrate you need more watts then a 1000 to equal a ded
Only good for tent growers
HPS > LED
Guys, don't search for "grow lights" just get LEDs with the fitting Kelvin and Watts, they can be really cheap, "grow lights" are a ripoff.
lol bro science incoming in this video. 12/12 will leave you with a lower yield. A plant will flower with less then 14hrs. Bet increase your light to 13/11 on off and you’ll increase your yield pretty substantially. They will get and extra day of light every week.12/12 is old school tech when we used ballast flippers.
I agree with the altered cycle. 12/12 is speaking in generalities. We will need a whole other video about plant light/dark cycles.
Or you could fix the pricetags by NOT wasting money on overpriced equipment.
Put a hat on
So we're talking about cannabis here but you keep showing me everything but cannabis😂
$35 Amazon led and $40 4 gorilla cookieFB marketplace seeds produced early a half oz of some of the best buds I've ever smoked all in 6 months and still have 2 plants growing in a tiny 2x3 closet. Using flood and drain over 5 gallon buckets in 10" pots.W/Clay pellets and perlite
BTW I spent years using washed decorative lava rock and perlite. Using 600w hps on on non autos Please remind me how much your fancy light cost ?
half 0 in 6 months, you joking right
@@krisanderson3796well personally I think a half isn't bad from complete startup and I expect even more from the 3 slurricains going right now. Which have about 2 more weeks to go. Along with 6 white widow autos and 4 purple punch seeds I've collected from FB things are looking so greeeaat here. 6 barrina T8s will be delivered today. Oh BTW this is all funded with cigarette money. I haven't bought a pack or smoked a cigarette since 2020
@@elfritts9895 good job on the no ciggs, but wouldnt it be cheaper to just buy weed if you are only producing such small amount per plant? plant food cost and electricity will cost more
LOL 14 grams!
@@elizabeth-2213 what's so hilarious about that?
Watts equal heat no matter the source. LEDs don't run cooler per watt than HID. Just more light per watt. 1000watts of DE cmh is exactly the same temperature as a 1000watts of Samsung 301H (any led!)✌️
But like you said you don't need as many watts to achieve same photon output. I unfortunately learned this starting off thinking my LEDs would be cool in the tent lol, but getting a better light with a detached ballast does help
More light = less heat.
You dont know, what efficency is. LEDs are more efficient and have less heat.
@@suki4410 you don't understand what your reading, 1000w of LEDs output same heat as 1000w of metal halide or high pressure sodium. The difference is the light output from said 1000w being greater from an LED so yes more efficient per watt
@@nordicwarrior9566
This is just wrong dude..
So for example:
1000w (Input) LED produces
- 100w of heat
- 900w of light
While the old 1000w ones would produce
- 200w heat
- 800w light
So yeah.
LEDs ARE cooler
Bro nobody gives 2 craps about the different specs of color. Just buy a Full spectrum light like nothing else matters. As long as it’s a HLG, King LED, Growers Choice etc that’s all that matters. You do not have to concern yourself with specs of light wt are u talking about. Cannabis grows nobody will say that bud had 3% more red or blue light gtfoh with that. Soon u said that I’m out.
exactly
As soon as he started trying to sell the different color light thing I clicked off. A sells pitch to try to get a sponsor
Led sucks! You are asking water to do vodkas job! Use a 1000 watt hps.. If you want to throw money away, get yourself a quality light meter and see for yourself how much these fixtures are dropping off as they are used daily. Do not listen to people that have been sponsored by the fixture suppliers... and lastly, there are no shade leaves! There are only junk fixtures that can't reach the floor unless they are right down on the plant..
I like the new light it's not led not hps its cald sun on demand think it made in Switzerland lol $6000 to much money for this guy. check it out mate
Hadn't heard of that one yet. A few years back I seen a plasma fixture with great claims. They were selling for 1300. Was too high for me also. Hps fixtures for me until I die. Mostly because I've got so many and good supply of bulbs. At 240 volt the power cost is very important to curb cost throughout the grow. Grow on brother.
Yes theres drop off from leds. Not enough to negate the better overwll efficiiency wnd efficacy
Worst bit of info ever.The title suggests info on led and its general info which should be obvious to anyone.
Don't use led. Use high pressure sodium. 600 Watt. You will get higher yield, and better product!
no you won't.....and that's fact now.
@@newlife956 how long have you used led to compare to high pressure sodium? I have over 20 years growing experience, even used 1,500 w metal halide.
You're not going to win this argument....as LED is more efficient with a much better spectrum. Those are FACTS, not my opinion. I've been growing cannabis for almost 40 years...and I used to use MH AND HPS....but when I switched to LED my yield and potency went way up. Here's another fact....across the board on all strains, LED increases potency 20% on average. LED has surpassed HPS....and you are behind the times now.@@MissionaryForMexico
Yes i think so
Run side by side 200 watt vipar spectra 1000 watt hos and mh not much different
"Grow like a pro"? Man youre growing in a tent with basic leds, theres nothing professional about that.. hobbyists at best maybe.. .
Do your own research before cloning someone elses "grow setup" which all this video is.. someone else grow setup with product placement.. .
You saying that cannabis needs time to sleep was all I needed to hear to click "don't recommend channel"
You're pretending to be an authority, but you don't know the absolute basics about plant energy processes???
Don't you like how nobody seems to share your sentiment?
This was a simple was of saying that it is not beneficial, and actually detrimental, to give plants 24 hours of light. They require a dark period. I have a degree in biology with a focus in plant ecology :)
@@Ledgrowlightsdepot then maybe your school should have covered how some plants require a dark period and others don't. Cannabis/marijuana does not. This is one of the most basic things about cannabis cultivation so it's astounding you pretend to be an authority.
There is no detriment to using 24 hour light cycles as long you dial in the DLI correctly. Do you even know what things like dli or vpd are?
@@bakedveal2624 except for everyone who has ever grown marijuana or studied it. Most of this channels viewers are probly 12 year olds like you who don't know better yet
I use 24 hrs of light for seedings. Increases female plants from non female seeds. Then I cut back light to 12 for sexing weed out the males and go to 18 hours veg.
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I see you grow with spider farm equipment I take it you're on a budget😂
Horsesh(t: When you only use grow lights for seedlings you don't need any damn different colors
Furthermore cheap LED lights are just fine for seedlings.
What? You're going to grow your plant 100% indoors without any sunlight?
How wasteful and stupid is that??
You guys need to get some GML lights in your videos and reviews quit riding HLG so hard @grandmasterleds