What Steven said at 3:50 really resonated with me. I need that alone time, after a hard and exhausting day. Its something that is essential in my day to day life, and I think its interesting that other people feel the same way.
"i think you're a failure of a human being if you don't have a schedule" fuck dude, whenever i make a schedule for using my time after class, i never maintain it. i've tried allocating my time into programs countless times. this put me off of making schedules, knowing i'll fail them. i tried making rigid and tough schedules, i tried making lenient and laid back schedules, i always fuck it up. this one hit me hard
I think it's discipline you need to work on. I feel I would be in the same position as you making schedules only to not follow through. Schedules are pointless unless you have any discipline in doing them.
Same. I've always done well in school and things, graduating college soon. Everyone thinks I work really hard and do a lot on my own but they don't see that I have literally no discipline. I will wait for everything until the very last minute, skip classes because I would rather read it in my own, do literally the bare minimum to get a good grade. This one hit home for me too. I waste SO much time and don't know how to stop.
Man, a lot of what he said rang with me when he started talking about regret. When he said the stuff about not being motivated and wanting someone help with that in the past, and then the whole "going back and my past self not even listening to me" are both things I have said to myself in the past. I was very apprehensive about destiny when he was first introduced into the political debates, but the more I watch him, the more I feel like we have a lot of common traits and ways of thinking. Does this happen to a lot of his fans? Lol
I would imagine that the reason why you become a fan of someone is often because you see a bit of yourself in them. Relating to someone is one of the quickest ways of bonding.
I don't mean to go on about myself, but I've been in a slump for 3 years now after a hyper productive and successful life prior, and I've almost completely turned it around today, the day before my 27th birthday. I've been fighting depression and bad health/finances over these three years, and I've just been offered an interview for a PhD. I've been in literal tears on the train to and from work cus I feel so vindicated for sticking to my dream as my 20's slipped away and whilst everyone around me grew their own lives. It's not in the bag yet or anything, but fuck me I'm getting close! Sorry, it's just that the carpet cleaner story hit home.
eartianwerewolf I failed, hahaha! Just found out they gave the PhD to someone else. You know what though? I'm okay. I'm actually super excited for the future and I'll explain why, just in case anything I say hits home with you and at all helps :) (if nothing does, I'm so sorry for wasting your time! (but you did ask!)) I'm actually going to put square brackets around the bio if you don't have time to read it! [So the PhD I was going for was in pure maths, I've had a passion for the subject since I started my degree in it (I never cared about it before, it just seemed like a good degree for job prospects in the future and I was good enough at maths to do it). Things were going well, I got a first in my undergrad, but it was during my masters I was hit by the aforementioned mental/financial/health problems and it just completely fucked me. All of a sudden, I had nothing. I was on the dole, no girlfriend, having to get surgery, drinking problem, weed problem, and my dream was shattered by bad grades. After months of being hounded by the dole men who wanted to make me do unpaid work at the supermarket, and dodging debt collectors by confusing them about where I lived, I finally started making just enough money through maths tutoring to be incredibly poor, but independent. My mental health was still a shambles and my dream of being a mathematician was in the bin, but I just couldn't stop doing maths in my free time. I got to the point (after 2 years) where my mathematical knowledge was on par with a second year PhD student's and I thought that might be enough to start applying places. Thing is, when you've been that long out of uni, at least for me, getting references for the applications was a real challenge. I applied for four different places, and each of these applications were not even considered for various reference issues. Now, I can't stress to you enough how much my own mind was holding me back at this stage. Trying to even just apply for places felt like trying to jump of a cliff, and whenever I managed to do it I'd put so much pressure on the application to be the one, the one to finally save me from my nightmare, that it would crush me when they were rejected, especially since I was being rejected on the basis of incomplete applications as opposed to my own abilities. I should stress though that I could have done a lot more to get my referees in order, but I was so terrified to talk to them, and always had the underlying dread that I was applying on the basis of a bad masters grade, and that I didn't see my chances of being accepted as all that high either.] The application I mentioned in my first comment was the first one where my references got in on time, and hey, I got through to the interview stage! It didn't work out, but there's a reason I'm not at a loss right now and that's because a month before the application I took a long hard look at my life. I looked at what was depressing me and what I could do to change myself. Now the easiest thing to do would be to give up on maths. I might not have the best grade, but I still have a masters in maths from a very good university; I could make a fucking killing off that! I never did that before because I was terrified of being a failure, but now I won't for a more healthy reason, that being that I simply have to be a mathematician, that I know I'm good enough to be one, but that I'm going to keep failing if I keep doing what I'm doing. I've been in a cycle of being depressed and doing nothing, then starting to use maths as an escape, this re-kindles my love for the subject and I'd just manage to bring myself to apply, applying would bring me back to my sense of being a failure and I'd shut down and the application would fail. Rinse and repeat! How have I gotten myself out of this loop? Very simple! I asked myself why I want to be a mathematician: because I want to teach at the university level and I want to do original research. How can I model my current life such that it most resembles the life I aspire to whilst actually moving towards actualising this dream? Simple! By focusing more on tutoring at the university level and doing original research in my spare time! I worked out numerous ways of getting more university pupils, and figured out a schedule so that I can fit in more time to do actual research. I'm finally leading a productive rather than reactive life, and I couldn't be more happy. God, I've just gone on and on, and I can't imagine any of this helps or even makes sense. I hope it does though I'll stop now and stop wasting your time!
Hey destiny, I've just started to watch your streams a few months ago, and what brings me back each time is for the content. I would agree that if an effort was made, from the perspective of a viewer, that you could be more successful in your career. But how would you define success for yourself when you always look at your peers. Great people surround themselves amoungst even greater people, and I really resonate with your up bringing and struggles. and I don't want to bring divinity into this, but maybe the answer you are looking for is no answer. That the meaning of life is, to in a sense, constantly make mistakes and share humility. Where as your reality is probably trying to micromanaging every single aspect of your life to a T. Anyways, love you do, love the work you do, and you are defiantly someone I look up to
I felt the same way about my upbringing. I think each generation wants to give their child what they didn't have and subsequently forgets to give them something else.
What destiny said in the beginning is very important for people to recognize. If you actually want success you cant give yourself easy ways out or make excuses. Don't tell yourself that you're too introverted/bad at public speaking/bad at whatever just so you can fall back on that instead of putting pressure on yourself to be good at something.
real talk, "NO discipline", i feel the same way, but at least you are real/honest about it, i try to be this way as well. Acknowledging it is the more than half the battle, now act on it [easier said than done.]
"oh wow you know a lot of stuff about a lot of stuff" "the reason I know anything about anything is because I will usually get interested in something and I'll just wikipedia it" oh my fucking god I feel you fam
I dont really understand the regret part. Making mistakes for the sake of learning is productive, even if you think you could have instead learnt from others mistakes I feel like making them yourself is more rewarding. Unless its something you cant take back or change it shouldnt be so distressing no?
I think the issue was more to do with the fact that some of the lessons would have been easier and or quicker to learn had there been someone who could have aided with that. Of course learning from personal experience is great, hopefully everyone does, but not everything needs to be done alone.
Niels Blue Well thats what Im saying basically. Instead of doing scientific tests yourself you can just read the answer in a textbook which is quicker. But its not nearly as satisfying I would think, and I wouldnt see it as a waste of time exactly.
Having known extroverted people I can say I'm pretty introverted. There is no inherent value to me in meeting people aside from the fact that to succeed in society it's necessary to build those more emotional relationships or connections with people. Most anything I could learn from them I could also learn from online resources. There are exceptions of course, like mentors, but the vast majority of connections you have to make provide little value to me because I don't value the emotional side like most people seem to.
Are you telling me the short guy that plays games online and 'debates' people on philosophy infinitely more than (from what I can tell) playing group games like PUBG with the bois MIGHT be introverted??? maybe?
Destiny, early in your clip, you talk about not having regrets because the sum total of who you are is reliant on ALL of the inputs, and therefore if you could possibly go back and take things away, or redo them, you would fundamentally change who you are (assuming you like yourself). But then, later you say you (slightly) resent your upbringing because you can imagine how far you might have gotten with a more supportive family. Here's the thing. Having a supportive family that did all the right things and put you in all the right schools might have made you LESS successful than you are now. It's hard to say. Lot's of people who are successful in this country are immigrants from much poorer environments: www.inc.com/magazine/201502/adam-bluestein/the-most-entrepreneurial-group-in-america-wasnt-born-in-america.html Not to be cliche and shit, but sometimes the hard times makes you who you are. I'm in my 30's and going back to school in the medical field, and it's so crazy. The people who are most successful at my college are the older people who have seen shit, done shit, and know what life is like. They get better grades and have higher graduation rates. I think it's better to just embrace that you started at the bottom, and clawed your way up. Be proud, my man.
Destiny how can you feel sorry for yourself? You've owned a home before turning 30. A majority of americans will never have the success you've had. Stop the pity party.
Stop focusing so much on other people. Most of the people you're talking about only outwardly show you what they want you to see, ie. the successful parts that make them look good. It's like facebook, nobody shows you the parts of their lives that are depressing or boring. I see these big events like that, because the vast majority of people aren't just there to have fun, they are there to make themselves look successful to further their businesses. Not saying there's nothing you can do to improve things, but when you start cutting yourself up about it and feeling resentful, you need to stop. Also - I think one of the main reasons you don't have as many connections as you *could* is because of your content. A lot of what you do (talking about politics and extremely taboo issues) turns people off big time. A lot of people will look at what you do and just think "Nope. That's not good for my business". Can't exactly blame them either, you talk about some fucked up shit. You're one of the only people who does though, it's why I'm here. Can't have it all.
Wow, this dude's really smart for a Twitch streamer.
Jacobinite the sad thing is it's kind of true lol
Jacobinite 140 IQ baby
Online test lul
What Steven said at 3:50 really resonated with me. I need that alone time, after a hard and exhausting day. Its something that is essential in my day to day life, and I think its interesting that other people feel the same way.
Destiny got destroyed in this debate
FeelsRealstiny
Does any one else want to give destiny a hug?
"i think you're a failure of a human being if you don't have a schedule"
fuck dude, whenever i make a schedule for using my time after class, i never maintain it. i've tried allocating my time into programs countless times. this put me off of making schedules, knowing i'll fail them. i tried making rigid and tough schedules, i tried making lenient and laid back schedules, i always fuck it up.
this one hit me hard
I think it's discipline you need to work on. I feel I would be in the same position as you making schedules only to not follow through. Schedules are pointless unless you have any discipline in doing them.
Same. I've always done well in school and things, graduating college soon. Everyone thinks I work really hard and do a lot on my own but they don't see that I have literally no discipline. I will wait for everything until the very last minute, skip classes because I would rather read it in my own, do literally the bare minimum to get a good grade. This one hit home for me too. I waste SO much time and don't know how to stop.
Depresstiny
"I think you are a failure of a human being if you don't have a schedule." ... outsch
I would rephrase to say "goals," but yeah, if you have goals you probably have a schedule to achieve them.
Man, a lot of what he said rang with me when he started talking about regret. When he said the stuff about not being motivated and wanting someone help with that in the past, and then the whole "going back and my past self not even listening to me" are both things I have said to myself in the past. I was very apprehensive about destiny when he was first introduced into the political debates, but the more I watch him, the more I feel like we have a lot of common traits and ways of thinking. Does this happen to a lot of his fans? Lol
Nah I think he sucks B-)
Fair enough xD
i feel the exact same way man.
I would imagine that the reason why you become a fan of someone is often because you see a bit of yourself in them. Relating to someone is one of the quickest ways of bonding.
I don't mean to go on about myself, but I've been in a slump for 3 years now after a hyper productive and successful life prior, and I've almost completely turned it around today, the day before my 27th birthday. I've been fighting depression and bad health/finances over these three years, and I've just been offered an interview for a PhD. I've been in literal tears on the train to and from work cus I feel so vindicated for sticking to my dream as my 20's slipped away and whilst everyone around me grew their own lives. It's not in the bag yet or anything, but fuck me I'm getting close! Sorry, it's just that the carpet cleaner story hit home.
Let me know how that goes. I just finished getting a graduate degree, and now I feel like i don't know what to do with my life.......:C
eartianwerewolf I failed, hahaha! Just found out they gave the PhD to someone else. You know what though? I'm okay. I'm actually super excited for the future and I'll explain why, just in case anything I say hits home with you and at all helps :) (if nothing does, I'm so sorry for wasting your time! (but you did ask!))
I'm actually going to put square brackets around the bio if you don't have time to read it!
[So the PhD I was going for was in pure maths, I've had a passion for the subject since I started my degree in it (I never cared about it before, it just seemed like a good degree for job prospects in the future and I was good enough at maths to do it).
Things were going well, I got a first in my undergrad, but it was during my masters I was hit by the aforementioned mental/financial/health problems and it just completely fucked me. All of a sudden, I had nothing. I was on the dole, no girlfriend, having to get surgery, drinking problem, weed problem, and my dream was shattered by bad grades.
After months of being hounded by the dole men who wanted to make me do unpaid work at the supermarket, and dodging debt collectors by confusing them about where I lived, I finally started making just enough money through maths tutoring to be incredibly poor, but independent. My mental health was still a shambles and my dream of being a mathematician was in the bin, but I just couldn't stop doing maths in my free time.
I got to the point (after 2 years) where my mathematical knowledge was on par with a second year PhD student's and I thought that might be enough to start applying places. Thing is, when you've been that long out of uni, at least for me, getting references for the applications was a real challenge. I applied for four different places, and each of these applications were not even considered for various reference issues.
Now, I can't stress to you enough how much my own mind was holding me back at this stage. Trying to even just apply for places felt like trying to jump of a cliff, and whenever I managed to do it I'd put so much pressure on the application to be the one, the one to finally save me from my nightmare, that it would crush me when they were rejected, especially since I was being rejected on the basis of incomplete applications as opposed to my own abilities. I should stress though that I could have done a lot more to get my referees in order, but I was so terrified to talk to them, and always had the underlying dread that I was applying on the basis of a bad masters grade, and that I didn't see my chances of being accepted as all that high either.]
The application I mentioned in my first comment was the first one where my references got in on time, and hey, I got through to the interview stage! It didn't work out, but there's a reason I'm not at a loss right now and that's because a month before the application I took a long hard look at my life. I looked at what was depressing me and what I could do to change myself.
Now the easiest thing to do would be to give up on maths. I might not have the best grade, but I still have a masters in maths from a very good university; I could make a fucking killing off that! I never did that before because I was terrified of being a failure, but now I won't for a more healthy reason, that being that I simply have to be a mathematician, that I know I'm good enough to be one, but that I'm going to keep failing if I keep doing what I'm doing. I've been in a cycle of being depressed and doing nothing, then starting to use maths as an escape, this re-kindles my love for the subject and I'd just manage to bring myself to apply, applying would bring me back to my sense of being a failure and I'd shut down and the application would fail. Rinse and repeat!
How have I gotten myself out of this loop? Very simple! I asked myself why I want to be a mathematician: because I want to teach at the university level and I want to do original research. How can I model my current life such that it most resembles the life I aspire to whilst actually moving towards actualising this dream? Simple! By focusing more on tutoring at the university level and doing original research in my spare time! I worked out numerous ways of getting more university pupils, and figured out a schedule so that I can fit in more time to do actual research. I'm finally leading a productive rather than reactive life, and I couldn't be more happy.
God, I've just gone on and on, and I can't imagine any of this helps or even makes sense. I hope it does though I'll stop now and stop wasting your time!
@@minch333 Im so happy for you!! :)
xhamster video at 11:09? lol
My dude watching some muff munching
People watch porn, get over it.
I'm well aware. I just thought it was a funny observation, chill out buddy.
Eagle eye. how the fuck did you catch that so quick.
llwayneio no need to get so defensive Jesus
cool video destiny, I've been following you for like two years and this is one of the most honest discussion you've had with your audience.
Hey destiny, I've just started to watch your streams a few months ago, and what brings me back each time is for the content. I would agree that if an effort was made, from the perspective of a viewer, that you could be more successful in your career. But how would you define success for yourself when you always look at your peers. Great people surround themselves amoungst even greater people, and I really resonate with your up bringing and struggles. and I don't want to bring divinity into this, but maybe the answer you are looking for is no answer. That the meaning of life is, to in a sense, constantly make mistakes and share humility. Where as your reality is probably trying to micromanaging every single aspect of your life to a T. Anyways, love you do, love the work you do, and you are defiantly someone I look up to
I felt the same way about my upbringing. I think each generation wants to give their child what they didn't have and subsequently forgets to give them something else.
Damn the bass on your setup is insane
It's TH-cam's compression. He uses no bass at all, he tries to give you his voice as natural as he can.
What destiny said in the beginning is very important for people to recognize. If you actually want success you cant give yourself easy ways out or make excuses. Don't tell yourself that you're too introverted/bad at public speaking/bad at whatever just so you can fall back on that instead of putting pressure on yourself to be good at something.
Nice comment! I appreciate it.
the most advantaged people are the sociopaths, they can do all the things to achieve success.
Oops I just lost another day
real talk, "NO discipline", i feel the same way, but at least you are real/honest about it, i try to be this way as well. Acknowledging it is the more than half the battle, now act on it [easier said than done.]
REAL TALK BOYS
idunno if im an introvert... driving around alone at night when traveling, when its quiet and no one is talking is very special to me
Thats fear if missing out. You will ne bigger than everyone Else.
1st half of the video: I try to live with no regrets
2nd half of the video: Here are all of the things I regret
Trying and doing are not the same.
"oh wow you know a lot of stuff about a lot of stuff" "the reason I know anything about anything is because I will usually get interested in something and I'll just wikipedia it" oh my fucking god I feel you fam
3:14 preach
As the commenter in the video said: a lot of this seems to go against your personal philosophy.
well memed, steven bonnell ii
You’ve thought me a lot Steve,
Networkstiny
I was not ready for the real talk of 2017 😢 when was this stream by the way? Recent?
Kevin Weaver bottom right corner, my dude
Shad0w I usually watch these on 144p cause I'm working and on mobile data. :/// Thanks though
October 26th
I dont really understand the regret part. Making mistakes for the sake of learning is productive, even if you think you could have instead learnt from others mistakes I feel like making them yourself is more rewarding. Unless its something you cant take back or change it shouldnt be so distressing no?
I think the issue was more to do with the fact that some of the lessons would have been easier and or quicker to learn had there been someone who could have aided with that. Of course learning from personal experience is great, hopefully everyone does, but not everything needs to be done alone.
Niels Blue Well thats what Im saying basically. Instead of doing scientific tests yourself you can just read the answer in a textbook which is quicker. But its not nearly as satisfying I would think, and I wouldnt see it as a waste of time exactly.
Extrovert/introvert is bullshit. Most people are both.
Having known extroverted people I can say I'm pretty introverted. There is no inherent value to me in meeting people aside from the fact that to succeed in society it's necessary to build those more emotional relationships or connections with people. Most anything I could learn from them I could also learn from online resources. There are exceptions of course, like mentors, but the vast majority of connections you have to make provide little value to me because I don't value the emotional side like most people seem to.
You honestly deserve to go to Harvard, never too late
Depresso expresso
who is this devon and the other guy?
chan tra Devin Nash is the owner of CLG. I'm not sure who Harkdan is precisely, but he often talks business with Destiny.
Are you telling me the short guy that plays games online and 'debates' people on philosophy infinitely more than (from what I can tell) playing group games like PUBG with the bois MIGHT be introverted??? maybe?
Of course you only meant to network with a few peeps.
Destiny, early in your clip, you talk about not having regrets because the sum total of who you are is reliant on ALL of the inputs, and therefore if you could possibly go back and take things away, or redo them, you would fundamentally change who you are (assuming you like yourself).
But then, later you say you (slightly) resent your upbringing because you can imagine how far you might have gotten with a more supportive family. Here's the thing. Having a supportive family that did all the right things and put you in all the right schools might have made you LESS successful than you are now. It's hard to say. Lot's of people who are successful in this country are immigrants from much poorer environments: www.inc.com/magazine/201502/adam-bluestein/the-most-entrepreneurial-group-in-america-wasnt-born-in-america.html
Not to be cliche and shit, but sometimes the hard times makes you who you are. I'm in my 30's and going back to school in the medical field, and it's so crazy. The people who are most successful at my college are the older people who have seen shit, done shit, and know what life is like. They get better grades and have higher graduation rates. I think it's better to just embrace that you started at the bottom, and clawed your way up. Be proud, my man.
wtf is self esteem destiny?
I guess ill wikipedia it
DaFeels
Depressedstiny
Destiny how can you feel sorry for yourself? You've owned a home before turning 30. A majority of americans will never have the success you've had. Stop the pity party.
He's on another level tbh and comparing his impact on the world to the types of people who graduate ivy league schools.
This guy's pretty fly for a white guy
3:15
You're talking about remorse, not regrets pepothunk
The bass boosting annoys my ears.
Stop focusing so much on other people. Most of the people you're talking about only outwardly show you what they want you to see, ie. the successful parts that make them look good. It's like facebook, nobody shows you the parts of their lives that are depressing or boring. I see these big events like that, because the vast majority of people aren't just there to have fun, they are there to make themselves look successful to further their businesses. Not saying there's nothing you can do to improve things, but when you start cutting yourself up about it and feeling resentful, you need to stop.
Also - I think one of the main reasons you don't have as many connections as you *could* is because of your content. A lot of what you do (talking about politics and extremely taboo issues) turns people off big time. A lot of people will look at what you do and just think "Nope. That's not good for my business". Can't exactly blame them either, you talk about some fucked up shit. You're one of the only people who does though, it's why I'm here. Can't have it all.
early so ill just ask:
debate millenial woes pls
whaaaat? why did he refuse?
millenial woes will never debate destiny
Fear.
hi
it is really stupid not to destiny. really stupid.
You seem to be burden by ambition. Are you?
Just get a lifetime's supply of MDMA to take whenever you have to go to one of those parties.
first
I think you could work on your presentation. Your voice sounds very apathetic.
Mysterion At least it's authentic.
You make a good point. I'm not into people being fake either.
Sounds more like he was just tired.
HEY WHATS UP GUYS ITS YA BOY DESTINY AND TODAY WE'RE DEBATING AMOS YEE