One of the things this movie really missed was a montage showing Wanda reading the Darkhold and slowly going mad. The weird flip from beautiful orchard to red filter Mordor was certainly startling but I don't think it bridged the gap between Wanda Vision and where they wanted to go with her.
Right? Wanda also forgot about Vision, the whole reason she went crazy and took over Westview in the first place. I guess remembering continuity is hard.
From the first time watching the movie, I ALWAYS wondered why Wanda never thought of going to a universe where maybe she died and Vision lives with Tommy and Billy. It's perfect, no timelines destroyed and no doppelganger killed
“That plan is super evil, and super stupid, now if it was revealed that some evil demon guy was manipulating you for his own evil ends that heel turn would make *way* more sense”
Mephisto is the Marvel equivalent of Trigon, so if Disney introduced Mephisto into the MCU then they’d have to introduce the X-Men because the Mutants are just shitty knockoffs of the Meta-Humans anyways.
The Eldritch God called Cthon (basically a demon) did write the Darkhold. And in the comics it was revealed that his ultimate plan was for Wanda to become his pawn so he could invade our universe just like Dormammu tried to....maybe the movie should've had that. Also with 1 or 2 lines of dialogue it's explained that reading the Darkhold corrupts anyone...so why was that not much of a focus?? The Darkhold is basically Sauron's One Ring so the book is more the villain. What if Agatha is really heroic like her comic counterpart but the Darkhold made her evil?
@@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr Well the Wikipedia says that metahuman wasn`t used in Dc before 1988, while mutants were a thing since the 1960s. Shitty knockoff yeah.
@@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr what? Mephisto is an enemy of ghost rider and has no connection to the mutants Also mutants in marvel existed before meta humans in DC Meta humans as a concept appeard in 1988 While the X man came out in 1963
@@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr everything you said was wrong. Mephisto predates Trigon by some time and isn't very much like him in any way. If you want a DC equivalent, look at Neron. Mephisto, as has been said in other comments, isn't an X-Men Villain. He is general Marvel, specifically holding grudges against the Silver Surfer, the second Ghost rider, Spider-man's marriage, and Dr. Doom. If you want a similar mutant menace, go with Apocalypse, Mr. Sinister or even Belesco.
My favorite part is, the entire plot of wandavision was because she lost her brother and Vision and she gives absolutely 0 thought to either of them, how wonderful continuity is
@@watdaforkman4436 I love how they glossed over that part as well and barely mentioned it in the movie so unless you're an avid Marvel watcher, a casual watcher would just be like um, but what?
Also....if she made a Hex in a small town where she made a double of Vision & her boys....shouldn't she be able to make a smaller Hex in the middle of nowhere where she is & just re-make Billy & Tommy (and hopefully Vision & Quicksilver)?? Since it's in the middle of nowhere it's much less destructive than what happened at Westview.
She can but it's gonna damage reality of 616 and eventually it will be like either her world or 616 that's why she was thinking she's doing greater good by just killing America instead of whole reality
The point is they don't exist, never did in her reality. She was using magic to make them seem real, but they never were. She have to find where they were actually real and work from there.
Another alternative: coo parent with an alternate Wanda, kids will be happy with two moms, plus the Wandas could cover for the other when one is too busy.
@@Paraguai123 Nope, she wouldn't even have to rely on the Dark hold to find a universe where her kids exist and she doesn't if she became close enough to America Chavez to the point of where Chavez was able to focus on realities with that case
They really had every opportunity to make Agatha corrupt her instead of a stupid book. She pulled Agatha’s memories out and kept them in case she needed her later-and I think it would have been so cool if, during that conversation right before things went all red all evil, we saw Agatha whispering in Wanda’s ear. Agatha was a powerful witch so it wouldn’t be too hard to write her memories and magic taking on some kind of life of their own in Wanda’s mind and having an active influence rather than a passive book would have made her decisions far more believable. It would have made Wanda’s choice at the end of WandaVision have more weight and would have been an excellent reveal in the film. Instead, they went with the plot device of (checks notes) everyone is a moron.
yeah but the sad thing about this is that this Agatha is a MCU twisted version of the character. the original and real Agatha was Wanda' s mentor in magic , motherly figure and friend , also an ally to heroes especially the Fantastic Four. it was her prodigal son that was a villain and foe to Wanda .
Yeah! That would be nice! Never thought about Agatha messing with Wanda by a mental witchcraft, would be truly better than just the book, and we would have Hahns back, which is a win win for me!
“a stupid book” which is known to corrupt its user and make them go mad/lose their mind. wanda was already not right in the head when she made the west view hex. her reading the darkhold only made her more wild and unstable
Well yea but the thing wich the fact that the darkhold can corrupt is more comic accuracy. In a comic iron man and some others heroes where corrupted by it and becomed evil
Dr Strange is hardly one to complain about "using dark magic to get what you want rather than the simple solution" after failing to sit down and TALK to Peter Parker about what he had tried to do to sort his life out in "No Way Home"!
Which is why this is not what happened in the movie. The Dr. Strange we know seems to flip between reckless action and reckless planning. I think that is one of his weaknesses; he is too eager to fix a problem that he forgets to think about if he should fix it.
Or talk with Peter and ask him specifically on which people he wants to keep their memories about him being Spiderman. And if the spell can’t do anything specific then have everyone forget about who Mysterio is and his actions
I always chalked up her lack of logic to “the dark hold is corrupting her and she is not thinking straight because the dark hold just wants to cause chaos no matter the cost”
Because of Chthon. You see, in comica Scarlet Witch is the vessel/avatar of Demon of Chaos Chthon. Like Moonknight to Khonshu. So thit is it why Wanda got corrupted and have the whole castle- she mean to be Harbinger of Chaos
@@blue-9017 ohh thats cool i guess but i don't think they explained this in the movie . and also the main problem i think most of us had is we didn't got the doctor strange movie we deserved we got the America chavez movie where doctor strange was in it.
@fuyukiryujin3723 Yeah but wandavision had very bad ending. Wanda becoming villain is actually the correct ending for wandavision imo. but they said " they don't know what you sacrificed " stupid ass line.
WANDA: Wait are you saying I should replace myself with my just killed alternate double in an infinite reality so I can continue living their life to obtain something this world no longer has? DR. STRANGE: Exactly. WANDA: isn't that like a plot from Rick and Morty? DR. STRANGE: Hmmm feels weird you would know about it. WANDA: Well I've been discovering new sitcoms and after sinking myself into Community I wanted to see what else Dan Harmon did and yeah, feels like what you're suggesting just comes form that. DR. STRANGE: Look Wanda this is totally different. There's no way anyone in our universe would take something from Rick and Morty. LOKI: (Offscreen) Exactly. KANG: (Offscreen) Certainly not. Seriously though still funny bit here.
@@SeanWheeler100 i think the guys in the above comments are hinting at the fact the Michael Waldron who wrote Loki and MoM,and Jeff Loveness who wrote Quantumania are all Rick And Morty writers
1:30 this is actually a great advice no one has told Wanda ever, I mean, in the show she was "a mother" from one day to the other without the process of parenting. I think that's why I feel dull her motivations in Multiverse of Madness.
Should have also had Dr strange mention the fact she could have more than just her kids back 😅 she could have her vision back, her brother, her parents, her country all as though they were never destroyed or in danger 🤣 she could have the life she always wanted and live happily ever after.
I think to counter this reasoning, Wanda said in the movie she needs America's power to "find cures for any illness or virus" if her child ever encounter any. This show's she's already fully corrupted by the darkhold and is beyong reasoning with her
@gamerdiorama she's got the pick of the litter she can pick any reality. One with science so advance she wouldn't have to worry about that. But ultimately she could go for a universe that she has the infinity stones and can just get whatever she wants including curing her kids if they fell I'll. She imagined to small, but it's mostly so it fits the story they were going for. but yes she's probably blinded by her ambition and corrupted so much that she's not realistically thinking it through with all the abilities she has. Like wise the others aren't offering her that solution with the pressure she's putting them under, not giving them time to think.
This video missed the point of Wanda's full plan. Getting to a universe with her kids was only half of her issue. The other half was being able to use America's multiverse hopping powers to be able to go to any universe at any time. That way, if her kids had a problem that her current universe didn't have a solution for, like an incurable disease, then she would just use America's power to go to a different universe that did have the answer to the problem. So that way, in Wanda's mind, her kids would always be safe. So her just working with America to jump to a universe with her kids wouldn't have satisfied Wanda in the movie.
wong: wanda is so far gone, that only the Scarlet Sheppard has the power to redeem her strange: Ok... Winds of Watoomb, bring me to the Scarlet Shepherd wong: no, not Shepherd....
I never got why can't she just create her boys again? Last time it was in that zone they couldn't leave, but surely she's now gotten the hang of these creation-abilities thanks to the book. They say in Wandavision, the Scarlet Witch CAN create.
They never explore the mechanics of why her boys can and do exist in other universes besides hers. If she could just copy whatever the other Wanda did then she could get them back or make them....Or just conceive children the old fashioned way.
Literally the first thing that came up to me while watching the scene - find a universe where kids exist, Wanda doesn't, end of story. Or, I dunno just give birth to some. She didn't even have a proper relationship with the fake ones she's obssessed with, they literally existed for, what, a few days or so.
This video missed the point of Wanda's full plan. Getting to a universe with her kids was only half of her issue. The other half was being able to use America's multiverse hopping powers to be able to go to any universe at any time. That way, if her kids had a problem that her current universe didn't have a solution for, like an incurable disease, then she would just use America's power to go to a different universe that did have the answer to the problem. So that way, in Wanda's mind, her kids would always be safe. So her just working with America to jump to a universe with her kids wouldn't have satisfied Wanda in the movie.
The problem was they tried to use house of M mentality wanda who was an omega level mutant who was manipulated by evil people and lost control of her powers
@@lI_Speedor_Il , considering that the Ultimate comics Scarlet Witch and Quick Silver had incest with each other then Disney could have adapted those comics into the MCU resulting in Tommy and Billy being considering that they already used the Samuel L. Jackson, (Nick Fury), from the Ultimate comics too, so there’s plenty of ways to introducing Tommy and Billy into the MCU than how Disney tried to force them into existence.
@@RoronoaZoro-ur6hrThe MCU literally followed Billy and Tommy's origin story almost exactly, in the comics Wanda also magically created them when she got married to Vision (The Vision and the Scarlet Witch Vol. 2). They weren't from the Ultimate comics (Earth 1610), they're from the main canon, Earth 616.
Except that Dr. Strange would immediately take care of that villain and there would be no character growth for him. He would be the same guy, who always has to hold the knife. By having him go up against Wanda, an ally and maybe even friend, he hesitates and has to find a different path instead of just outright destroying her. And that path required him to learn to trust and respect others…something he was lacking before. He’s on the road to becoming the Sorcerer Supreme, except he has learned lessons that most the other Dr. Stranges had not. This set up was necessary for Dr. Strange’s character development just as much as it was for Wanda’s.
@@accurateoutrage except Strange would be reluctant to kill the very version of himself, although alternate. He would grow on seeing the mistakes the evil version of him would do. I probably should redirect you to the Critical Drinker's take on the script where both Sinister and Wanda make perfect sense and both are relatable and tragic.
@@thedarkone9552 True! I meant more about why they didn’t choose to use Nightmare or some other villain like that. I haven’t heard of that channel but I’ll check it out! I love the theories and there are always interesting ideas out there!
Another thing with this movie, she created the kids grieving from Vision dying. But when she finds a loophole to bringing someone back shes like screw vision, i just want my kids. In fact where is Vision in the other reality? Still dead? Where did the kids come from? (Brain Aneurysm)
What was weird about this movie is the fact that he challenged a god with at least 10000 years of experience with magic but runs from someone who he should have had no problem handling
to be fair strange had the time stone for dormamu and therefore could trap him for infinite time forcing him to surrender meaning he didn't beat dormamu by overpowering him. no time stone for movie 2 so he's stuck trying to fight Wanda.
1. He had the time stone against dormammu 2. We have no idea how strong dormammu even is in the mcu. Saying he has 10000 years of experience is meaningless because for all he know he slept for 10000 years
Okay, but like, dead ass never thought of that. That would have been way better. Especially since she just came out as the Scarlett Whitch in Wanda Vison.
@@somethingsomething2541 Facts, but in my defense, I was in boot camp just trying to enjoy the movie, so I didn't really give it that much thought at the time
More difficult that making choice to kill teen and take her power, then continue murderous rampage against protectors of earth and add to it 2nd rampage on target universe, then kill their mother (possibly in front of them) and then try to raise those traumatized kids as your own, probably fight plenty of heroes or other wounded parties over years as vengeance/justice for your deeds?? 🤔 (Not counting poss. incursion, or power vacuum inviting all villains to your world since most heroes ended up dead). Yeah i think looking for more suited universe would be worth it even if "difficult".
Infinite universes baby. Not possible. Infinite amount where she is dead and alive with her kids. Wanda just saw the first one with her kids and chose that one.
I always got the feeling that the very act of her living in another universe is impossible, it'd eventually cause an incursion. Chavez can go from universe to universe because only one of her exists, but anyone who goes to a universe with her, the longer they remain in any other universe, the greater the chance of incursion. Basically, Wanda in another universe or bringing the kids to hers would be a ticking time-bomb.
This is also why she needed Chavez's power... Cause if she went to another universe, they'd eventually collide with her own, destroying both. She'd basically need to keep jumping from universe to universe with her family every few years.
@@aishiteru2736 I mean, it's pretty clear movie to movie they had no concern about multiverse continuity. Like, where is this militaristic TVA we saw at the end of Loki? However, of you want a lore friendly answer... The Watcher literally transcends universes. Pretty sure he can make it happen if anyone could. Plus, her universe was wiped of all life by Ultron. It's possible her universe was destroyed to prevent an incursion or simply doesn't have a risk of incursion when the biocompatibility is that low.
Does it matter how many variants you have? From what I understood, the risk of incursion grows every second someone spends in another universe. Whether they were traveling through multiverse, or dreamwalking. Chavez has a home universe, her moms have home universe, and all 3 of them are currently spending time in some different universe.
A vastly superior version of the film. Now they can make the rest of the scenes Wanda and Strange having funny banter about the different universes until Wanda realizes after training the absolute brat that is America that she doesn't actually want kids after all.
Yeah even knowing she went insane due to the Not-Necronomicon, for the VIEWER seeing her go from generally unhinged, to full on supervillain from the course of a TV show and a movie was too much of a leap story wise. Like not a leap unrealistically, like a GIANT leap from one point to another.
This video missed the point of Wanda's full plan. Getting to a universe with her kids was only half of her issue. The other half was being able to use America's multiverse hopping powers to be able to go to any universe at any time. That way, if her kids had a problem that her current universe didn't have a solution for, like an incurable disease, then she would just use America's power to go to a different universe that did have the answer to the problem. So that way, in Wanda's mind, her kids would always be safe. So her just working with America to jump to a universe with her kids wouldn't have satisfied Wanda in the movie.
This video missed the point of Wanda's full plan. Getting to a universe with her kids was only half of her issue. The other half was being able to use America's multiverse hopping powers to be able to go to any universe at any time. That way, if her kids had a problem that her current universe didn't have a solution for, like an incurable disease, then she would just use America's power to go to a different universe that did have the answer to the problem. So that way, in Wanda's mind, her kids would always be safe. So her just working with America to jump to a universe with her kids wouldn't have satisfied Wanda in the movie.
Except eViL bOoK barely mentioned in wandavision and mostly a plot point in agents of shield (not kidding) turned her insane off screen! Fuck all that character development in Wandavision or common sense because eViL bOoK!
Thank you! That's what I was thinking. Like shouldn't the movie be a Lord of the Rings situation with the Darkhold instead of the One Ring & probably Cthon who wrote it instead of Sauron? I also have a theory Agatha Harkness is heroic like in the comics, just the Darkhold messed her up...and maybe her spin-off will deal with her possible redemption.
Yeah at first it bothered me too, the short answer was Darkhold corrupting her but that was no excuse for Dr. Strange to not point out. Like he was very close in Kamar-Taj face off however but asked the question without any more suggestion.
Literally the whole time I watched this movie I was just like "We live in a Post Rick and Morty world, you can't make this plot work now" Cuz reminder to everyone, Rick and Morty literally swapped their bodies out with a universe where they immediately died.
This video missed the point of Wanda's full plan. Getting to a universe with her kids was only half of her issue. The other half was being able to use America's multiverse hopping powers to be able to go to any universe at any time. That way, if her kids had a problem that her current universe didn't have a solution for, like an incurable disease, then she would just use America's power to go to a different universe that did have the answer to the problem. So that way, in Wanda's mind, her kids would always be safe. So her just working with America to jump to a universe with her kids wouldn't have satisfied Wanda in the movie.
Every man in every multiverse had said "How about a help you out with the kids situation, i mean, we could go to a dinner first but iam pretty cool without it. We could even start right here, right now if you want. Or i open a Portal to a plane, never had fun in the sky you know"
I would be happy if doctor strange would not stand around most of his own movie and at least pretend to be the socerer supreme. That was avatar the airbender level of represetstion of this character.
This was the first thing I thought about, realities are infinite which means any reality you think can exist, already exist so she doesn't need to do anything crazy to get her children back.
This video missed the point of Wanda's full plan. Getting to a universe with her kids was only half of her issue. The other half was being able to use America's multiverse hopping powers to be able to go to any universe at any time. That way, if her kids had a problem that her current universe didn't have a solution for, like an incurable disease, then she would just use America's power to go to a different universe that did have the answer to the problem. So that way, in Wanda's mind, her kids would always be safe. So her just working with America to jump to a universe with her kids wouldn't have satisfied Wanda in the movie.
@@MelonLight222 That's what her plan is. To find a universe that has a fix to whatever issue may arise. She won't know what issue needs fixing until it happens though. She is powerful but can't see the future. So she won't know what illness or whatever needs a fix until it happens to her kids, then she would find a universe that has the fix.
To be fair, Wanda was manipulated by a book of literal evil, common sense and reason can be a bit of a blur when you are offered everything you can ever want regardless of the cost
But I mean, isn't that kind of a lazy writing gimmick? Instead of adding nuance to why she's evil, or explaining how the book even works we just get the lazy "The devil(book) made me do it"
How did these two manage to make a believable comic act out of these serious characters and yet retain bits of Elizabeth and Benedict's respective portrayals of the characters? Like, damn!
nah, rick and morty is all about poking fun at overused things in stories, destroy the world, but genious scientist saves the day, nope, loving mom and dad family, nope, marriage hanging on by a thread, all consuming hive mind alien? nope its got goals and an every day life Ricks multiverse travel is only a plot device where they can explore overused ideas In marvel, multiverse means, lazy writing, 20 min segments before they introduce an unprompted idea, gender swap, another dumb idea that's actually just footage they didn't want to cut, etc Cancel Reply
The funniest thing is that, technically, this is canon because this is one of the infinite possibilities at the end of the day. Yet they'll still have to take care of 616's Wanda lol😂😂😂😂😂😂 Now, Incredible work!!!!!!! Loved it!!😄😄😄🤩🤩🤩💯💯💯💯
This isn't new content guys. It's literally just the Doctor Strange 2 scene from their video "Marvel Phase 4 but 23% Smarter" that was uploaded 2 months ago
Honestly if multiverse of madness was 23% smarter i would've just slinged ringed all the way to the book of vishanti, use the book to defeat scarlet witch with it and use it to defeat future threats because it can grant a sorcerer any power they need to defeat their enemy
I did like that they established that dreams are glimpses into other realities. Since technically, in an existence where the multiverse is real, anything you could possibly dream is a reality somewhere.
Simple solution: She could get married to a human in this universe and have children the normal way. That is the smartest solution. I kept saying the whole time I was watching the movie. Loving an android has been the root of most of Wanda's problems.
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One of the things this movie really missed was a montage showing Wanda reading the Darkhold and slowly going mad. The weird flip from beautiful orchard to red filter Mordor was certainly startling but I don't think it bridged the gap between Wanda Vision and where they wanted to go with her.
Red filter Mordor XD Genius!
@@nicholasmartin6526 Ha thanks.
Was scared they would whip-lash this moment, and it unfortunately was true...very lazy plot.
I feel like the end credits scene of Wandavision with her obsessively reading the darkhold while her children called out to her established that well.
@@FalseCode yeah we still could have had more of it to make her sudden flip more believable
How Scarlet witch just forgot about her brother like that was just cruel 😂😂😂
Right? Wanda also forgot about Vision, the whole reason she went crazy and took over Westview in the first place. I guess remembering continuity is hard.
Fun fact : sam raimi didn't watch avengers age of ultron
@@kingdomofwakanda4997 He also didn't write MOM so I'll forgive him for that.
@@shadowking9739 he directed it, it was his decision to ignore it
Honestly, we could just say that she's already done grieving them but not her children
From the first time watching the movie, I ALWAYS wondered why Wanda never thought of going to a universe where maybe she died and Vision lives with Tommy and Billy. It's perfect, no timelines destroyed and no doppelganger killed
Yeah, I mean it's weird how Wanda just totally forgets about Vision when HE'S the reason she went mad in the first place.
Because she was corrupted by the Book of the Damned.
@@shadowking9739 Pietro too, seems like Wanda COMPLETELY forgot about him 💀
@@christianschoff2490 That's a unique and convenient plot but consider, what if they didn't do that?
@@SableZardYT And what exactly would be gained by considering a completely different movie?
You're not giving yourself enough credit; this is easily 90% smarter than anything that happened in Universe of Madness.
You missed the point of 23%, it doesn't take much thinking to make this kind of leap. Dr Strange doesn't need to be 90% smarter, just 23%.
its not called universe of madness for no reason
@@fj094t58qjf It's not called universe of madness at all actually. It's called Multiverse of Madness
@@stevenfriedman2902 welp the oroginal commment said universe of madness 🗿
@@fj094t58qjf Oh my gosh what is wrong with you’re spelling??
“That plan is super evil, and super stupid, now if it was revealed that some evil demon guy was manipulating you for his own evil ends that heel turn would make *way* more sense”
Mephisto is the Marvel equivalent of Trigon, so if Disney introduced Mephisto into the MCU then they’d have to introduce the X-Men because the Mutants are just shitty knockoffs of the Meta-Humans anyways.
The Eldritch God called Cthon (basically a demon) did write the Darkhold. And in the comics it was revealed that his ultimate plan was for Wanda to become his pawn so he could invade our universe just like Dormammu tried to....maybe the movie should've had that.
Also with 1 or 2 lines of dialogue it's explained that reading the Darkhold corrupts anyone...so why was that not much of a focus?? The Darkhold is basically Sauron's One Ring so the book is more the villain.
What if Agatha is really heroic like her comic counterpart but the Darkhold made her evil?
@@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr Well the Wikipedia says that metahuman wasn`t used in Dc before 1988, while mutants were a thing since the 1960s. Shitty knockoff yeah.
@@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr what?
Mephisto is an enemy of ghost rider and has no connection to the mutants
Also mutants in marvel existed before meta humans in DC
Meta humans as a concept appeard in 1988
While the X man came out in 1963
@@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr everything you said was wrong. Mephisto predates Trigon by some time and isn't very much like him in any way. If you want a DC equivalent, look at Neron. Mephisto, as has been said in other comments, isn't an X-Men Villain. He is general Marvel, specifically holding grudges against the Silver Surfer, the second Ghost rider, Spider-man's marriage, and Dr. Doom. If you want a similar mutant menace, go with Apocalypse, Mr. Sinister or even Belesco.
Plot twist: it was actually a deleted scene
Hey Wong! Is it you?!
Wongers!!!
wasn't your head cut off by toon sandwich?
They delete it, because they realize the movie will be only 20 minutes long
Directed by Robert B. Weide
My favorite part is, the entire plot of wandavision was because she lost her brother and Vision and she gives absolutely 0 thought to either of them, how wonderful continuity is
@@watdaforkman4436 I love how they glossed over that part as well and barely mentioned it in the movie so unless you're an avid Marvel watcher, a casual watcher would just be like um, but what?
If I'm not mistaken, the director of Multiverse of Madness didn't even watch WandaVision, so yeah, that's why this movie is kinda bs
Vision is still alive, she can actually be with him still. Worst case scenario she gets a sperm donor to have kids.
No, she's just crazy.
@@pezdispencer113 yeah, we don't know what happened to Vision after he left Hex in WandaVision
Also....if she made a Hex in a small town where she made a double of Vision & her boys....shouldn't she be able to make a smaller Hex in the middle of nowhere where she is & just re-make Billy & Tommy (and hopefully Vision & Quicksilver)?? Since it's in the middle of nowhere it's much less destructive than what happened at Westview.
She can but it's gonna damage reality of 616 and eventually it will be like either her world or 616 that's why she was thinking she's doing greater good by just killing America instead of whole reality
@Aman Barnwal Bucky didn’t do well with that tho-
@amanbarnwal5268she made them with her own magic once, she could do it again. So why not?
The point is they don't exist, never did in her reality. She was using magic to make them seem real, but they never were. She have to find where they were actually real and work from there.
@@beentheredonethat5908 She has the ability to warp reality. By getting some, she create create her own kids outta a little sperm
Another alternative: coo parent with an alternate Wanda, kids will be happy with two moms, plus the Wandas could cover for the other when one is too busy.
Or she could just get orphan versions of her kids lmfao
Oh sure, lets traumatize the kids by sending them basically a superpowered ghost version of their mother.
@@Paraguai123 Nope, she wouldn't even have to rely on the Dark hold to find a universe where her kids exist and she doesn't if she became close enough to America Chavez to the point of where Chavez was able to focus on realities with that case
@@Paraguai123 not exactly what i mean, i mean a universe where they never met her so they'd have a mother and they'd cling to her.
@@THECREATOROFBRICKS2000 Then they are not orphans. Orphans are kids whose parents died.
@@Paraguai123 yeah they would have never met her because theoretically she's dead
I love how the plan is literally Miguel O Hara's backstory in Across the Spiderverse.
They really had every opportunity to make Agatha corrupt her instead of a stupid book. She pulled Agatha’s memories out and kept them in case she needed her later-and I think it would have been so cool if, during that conversation right before things went all red all evil, we saw Agatha whispering in Wanda’s ear. Agatha was a powerful witch so it wouldn’t be too hard to write her memories and magic taking on some kind of life of their own in Wanda’s mind and having an active influence rather than a passive book would have made her decisions far more believable. It would have made Wanda’s choice at the end of WandaVision have more weight and would have been an excellent reveal in the film. Instead, they went with the plot device of (checks notes) everyone is a moron.
Watch Agents of SHIELD to understand how corrupting the book is, plus it’s a good show
yeah but the sad thing about this is that this Agatha is a MCU twisted version of the character. the original and real Agatha was Wanda' s mentor in magic , motherly figure and friend , also an ally to heroes especially the Fantastic Four. it was her prodigal son that was a villain and foe to Wanda .
Yeah! That would be nice! Never thought about Agatha messing with Wanda by a mental witchcraft, would be truly better than just the book, and we would have Hahns back, which is a win win for me!
“a stupid book” which is known to corrupt its user and make them go mad/lose their mind. wanda was already not right in the head when she made the west view hex. her reading the darkhold only made her more wild and unstable
Well yea but the thing wich the fact that the darkhold can corrupt is more comic accuracy. In a comic iron man and some others heroes where corrupted by it and becomed evil
Dr Strange is hardly one to complain about "using dark magic to get what you want rather than the simple solution" after failing to sit down and TALK to Peter Parker about what he had tried to do to sort his life out in "No Way Home"!
Which is why this is not what happened in the movie.
The Dr. Strange we know seems to flip between reckless action and reckless planning. I think that is one of his weaknesses; he is too eager to fix a problem that he forgets to think about if he should fix it.
Or talk with Peter and ask him specifically on which people he wants to keep their memories about him being Spiderman. And if the spell can’t do anything specific then have everyone forget about who Mysterio is and his actions
maybe that's why he's Strange
@@vgngolley341 Making everyone forget about Mysterio is the best outcome.
@@TheWarmachine375 True, I’m surprised this isn’t the first subject but the movie won’t happen so yeah…
I always chalked up her lack of logic to “the dark hold is corrupting her and she is not thinking straight because the dark hold just wants to cause chaos no matter the cost”
Same 💀I always thought the dark hold was like some sort of drug, the more the user uses it the worse they get but they don't notice
@@melonie_1510 and in the end they showed darkhold was originally wanda's , the temple all for her. so why darkhold was corrupting her no one knows
Because of Chthon. You see, in comica Scarlet Witch is the vessel/avatar of Demon of Chaos Chthon. Like Moonknight to Khonshu. So thit is it why Wanda got corrupted and have the whole castle- she mean to be Harbinger of Chaos
@@blue-9017 ohh thats cool i guess but i don't think they explained this in the movie .
and also the main problem i think most of us had is we didn't got the doctor strange movie we deserved we got the America chavez movie where doctor strange was in it.
@fuyukiryujin3723 Yeah but wandavision had very bad ending. Wanda becoming villain is actually the correct ending for wandavision imo.
but they said " they don't know what you sacrificed " stupid ass line.
2:05 So basically Wanda just needed to watch Rick and Morty.
WANDA: Wait are you saying I should replace myself with my just killed alternate double in an infinite reality so I can continue living their life to obtain something this world no longer has?
DR. STRANGE: Exactly.
WANDA: isn't that like a plot from Rick and Morty?
DR. STRANGE: Hmmm feels weird you would know about it.
WANDA: Well I've been discovering new sitcoms and after sinking myself into Community I wanted to see what else Dan Harmon did and yeah, feels like what you're suggesting just comes form that.
DR. STRANGE: Look Wanda this is totally different. There's no way anyone in our universe would take something from Rick and Morty.
LOKI: (Offscreen) Exactly.
KANG: (Offscreen) Certainly not.
Seriously though still funny bit here.
Rick and Morty ripped off Kang
Uhh Rick and Morty isn't all that original either. In fact, funny enough, the Council of Rick's is based off the Council of Reed's from Marvel.
What did Loki rip off from Rick and Morty?
Also the Council of Kangs came before the Council of Reeds and Council of Ricks.
@@SeanWheeler100 i think the guys in the above comments are hinting at the fact the Michael Waldron who wrote Loki and MoM,and Jeff Loveness who wrote Quantumania are all Rick And Morty writers
This comment is Streets Ahead! 😆
1:30 this is actually a great advice no one has told Wanda ever, I mean, in the show she was "a mother" from one day to the other without the process of parenting. I think that's why I feel dull her motivations in Multiverse of Madness.
Miguel O'Hara did exactly that in Across the Spider-verse and look at what happened to him lol
THANK YOU FOR STATING THE OBVIOUS - LIKE SERIOUSLY THE ABSOLUTE *OBVIOUS* 😭 😩
Should have also had Dr strange mention the fact she could have more than just her kids back 😅 she could have her vision back, her brother, her parents, her country all as though they were never destroyed or in danger 🤣 she could have the life she always wanted and live happily ever after.
I think to counter this reasoning, Wanda said in the movie she needs America's power to "find cures for any illness or virus" if her child ever encounter any. This show's she's already fully corrupted by the darkhold and is beyong reasoning with her
@gamerdiorama she's got the pick of the litter she can pick any reality. One with science so advance she wouldn't have to worry about that. But ultimately she could go for a universe that she has the infinity stones and can just get whatever she wants including curing her kids if they fell I'll. She imagined to small, but it's mostly so it fits the story they were going for. but yes she's probably blinded by her ambition and corrupted so much that she's not realistically thinking it through with all the abilities she has. Like wise the others aren't offering her that solution with the pressure she's putting them under, not giving them time to think.
This is strangely smarter than the real deal
23% smarter in fact! 😊
Oh my gosh, that’s Scarlet!! She’s such a great actress
Oh hi!!! Ty!!
This is *literally* the conversation I had with my best friend when we were walking out of the theater after having watched the movie, hahahahaha.
This video missed the point of Wanda's full plan. Getting to a universe with her kids was only half of her issue. The other half was being able to use America's multiverse hopping powers to be able to go to any universe at any time. That way, if her kids had a problem that her current universe didn't have a solution for, like an incurable disease, then she would just use America's power to go to a different universe that did have the answer to the problem. So that way, in Wanda's mind, her kids would always be safe. So her just working with America to jump to a universe with her kids wouldn't have satisfied Wanda in the movie.
Perfect timing and execution 10/10
Just here for Wanda. Also, loving Scarlet Sheppard's portrayal of Wanda, you have done our great mother proud.
mother 🙄
get help brother
@time traveller I'm fine, thank you.
@@timetraveller939 she is mother 😍 and u can keep crying
wong: wanda is so far gone, that only the Scarlet Sheppard has the power to redeem her
strange: Ok... Winds of Watoomb, bring me to the Scarlet Shepherd
wong: no, not Shepherd....
SCARLET DID A GREAT JOB AS "SCARLET WITCH"!
"but what if my kids get sick? in the multiverse there's a cure for everything"
wanda girl you can literally manipulate reality with your mind
Dr. strange can literally answer "Remember, you trained america. Just ask her"
If that family were this willing to process logical solutions in the comics the Marvel Universe would look a lot different.
I never got why can't she just create her boys again? Last time it was in that zone they couldn't leave, but surely she's now gotten the hang of these creation-abilities thanks to the book. They say in Wandavision, the Scarlet Witch CAN create.
I ask the same question watching the movie
@Fuyuki Ryujin plus in the comics she switches between good and bad all the time, so it isn’t much of a leap for her character.
They never explore the mechanics of why her boys can and do exist in other universes besides hers. If she could just copy whatever the other Wanda did then she could get them back or make them....Or just conceive children the old fashioned way.
But the children need a SOUL which SW cant create
@@unorchestrated2534 then how could she do it in Wandavision?
Literally the first thing that came up to me while watching the scene - find a universe where kids exist, Wanda doesn't, end of story. Or, I dunno just give birth to some. She didn't even have a proper relationship with the fake ones she's obssessed with, they literally existed for, what, a few days or so.
This video missed the point of Wanda's full plan. Getting to a universe with her kids was only half of her issue. The other half was being able to use America's multiverse hopping powers to be able to go to any universe at any time. That way, if her kids had a problem that her current universe didn't have a solution for, like an incurable disease, then she would just use America's power to go to a different universe that did have the answer to the problem. So that way, in Wanda's mind, her kids would always be safe. So her just working with America to jump to a universe with her kids wouldn't have satisfied Wanda in the movie.
"A Not murdering is better than murdering."
Thor: "This is why you're not an Avenger, Dr Oddly dressed."
"Oh.... sh*t yeah let's just do that" - Pretty much HISHE
The problem was they tried to use house of M mentality wanda who was an omega level mutant who was manipulated by evil people and lost control of her powers
This is Like what if DR Strange wasn't an introvert
Option 3 for Wanda was to get kids the old fashioned and fun way.
But, hey, dimension hopping is just as fun.
take option 3
Well i heard giving birth isnt that much fun so.. 🤪
But she wanted Billy and Tommy not some random new kids
@@lI_Speedor_Il , considering that the Ultimate comics Scarlet Witch and Quick Silver had incest with each other then Disney could have adapted those comics into the MCU resulting in Tommy and Billy being considering that they already used the Samuel L. Jackson, (Nick Fury), from the Ultimate comics too, so there’s plenty of ways to introducing Tommy and Billy into the MCU than how Disney tried to force them into existence.
@@RoronoaZoro-ur6hrThe MCU literally followed Billy and Tommy's origin story almost exactly, in the comics Wanda also magically created them when she got married to Vision (The Vision and the Scarlet Witch Vol. 2). They weren't from the Ultimate comics (Earth 1610), they're from the main canon, Earth 616.
If it was even 1% smarter it would have actually had a Dr Strange villain be the villain of a Dr Strange movie
Sinister Strange as an antagonist and Wanda as a temporary antagonist
@@thedarkone9552 what about someone like Nightmare or Shuma Gorath as originally planned ?
Except that Dr. Strange would immediately take care of that villain and there would be no character growth for him. He would be the same guy, who always has to hold the knife. By having him go up against Wanda, an ally and maybe even friend, he hesitates and has to find a different path instead of just outright destroying her. And that path required him to learn to trust and respect others…something he was lacking before. He’s on the road to becoming the Sorcerer Supreme, except he has learned lessons that most the other Dr. Stranges had not. This set up was necessary for Dr. Strange’s character development just as much as it was for Wanda’s.
@@accurateoutrage except Strange would be reluctant to kill the very version of himself, although alternate. He would grow on seeing the mistakes the evil version of him would do.
I probably should redirect you to the Critical Drinker's take on the script where both Sinister and Wanda make perfect sense and both are relatable and tragic.
@@thedarkone9552 True! I meant more about why they didn’t choose to use Nightmare or some other villain like that. I haven’t heard of that channel but I’ll check it out! I love the theories and there are always interesting ideas out there!
Another thing with this movie, she created the kids grieving from Vision dying. But when she finds a loophole to bringing someone back shes like screw vision, i just want my kids. In fact where is Vision in the other reality? Still dead? Where did the kids come from? (Brain Aneurysm)
What was weird about this movie is the fact that he challenged a god with at least 10000 years of experience with magic but runs from someone who he should have had no problem handling
to be fair strange had the time stone for dormamu and therefore could trap him for infinite time forcing him to surrender meaning he didn't beat dormamu by overpowering him. no time stone for movie 2 so he's stuck trying to fight Wanda.
1. He had the time stone against dormammu
2. We have no idea how strong dormammu even is in the mcu. Saying he has 10000 years of experience is meaningless because for all he know he slept for 10000 years
Or there's an alt timeline where Wanda is evil and is trying to kill her kids so just avada kedava her alter ego and its a win win 😂
i thought it was avrada kedava... you learn something new everyday!!
Marvel can't use Rowling's spells.
That's really a good solution 🤣
I think directors or script writers should take inspiration from comments
Okay, but like, dead ass never thought of that. That would have been way better. Especially since she just came out as the Scarlett Whitch in Wanda Vison.
You... didn't think of this? Wow. ._.
Damm if u never thought of this.. then marvel is definitely making movies for people like u..😭
@@somethingsomething2541 Facts, but in my defense, I was in boot camp just trying to enjoy the movie, so I didn't really give it that much thought at the time
@@Nekotaku_TV I was in boot camp when I saw it, so I didn't really put that much thought into it. I was just enjoying the ride. 😋
@@Mario-ud8cp yeah then it's fine, its definitely better to watch marvel movies just casually and for some action asn stuff
You could argue it's difficult to find a very specific universe and there are way more of the ones where her doppelganger is still alive.
More difficult that making choice to kill teen and take her power, then continue murderous rampage against protectors of earth and add to it 2nd rampage on target universe, then kill their mother (possibly in front of them) and then try to raise those traumatized kids as your own, probably fight plenty of heroes or other wounded parties over years as vengeance/justice for your deeds?? 🤔 (Not counting poss. incursion, or power vacuum inviting all villains to your world since most heroes ended up dead). Yeah i think looking for more suited universe would be worth it even if "difficult".
Infinite universes baby.
Not possible.
Infinite amount where she is dead and alive with her kids.
Wanda just saw the first one with her kids and chose that one.
Wanda's reaction to Strange's plan in a real Marvel movie would be:
"Did you just mansplained to me?"
why do I feel like I've seen this before...
Because every living thing with a brain come to those conclusions))
@@spardathedevil7956 deep, bro.
"Ohh... sh*t.. yeah let's just do that" I'm dead
Literally my internal dialogue during the movie lmao 😂 also awesome scarlet witch outfit!
I always got the feeling that the very act of her living in another universe is impossible, it'd eventually cause an incursion. Chavez can go from universe to universe because only one of her exists, but anyone who goes to a universe with her, the longer they remain in any other universe, the greater the chance of incursion. Basically, Wanda in another universe or bringing the kids to hers would be a ticking time-bomb.
This is also why she needed Chavez's power... Cause if she went to another universe, they'd eventually collide with her own, destroying both. She'd basically need to keep jumping from universe to universe with her family every few years.
Did yall forget about Black Widow in What if? She went to the universe where her counterpart was dead.
@@aishiteru2736 I mean, it's pretty clear movie to movie they had no concern about multiverse continuity. Like, where is this militaristic TVA we saw at the end of Loki? However, of you want a lore friendly answer... The Watcher literally transcends universes. Pretty sure he can make it happen if anyone could. Plus, her universe was wiped of all life by Ultron. It's possible her universe was destroyed to prevent an incursion or simply doesn't have a risk of incursion when the biocompatibility is that low.
Does it matter how many variants you have? From what I understood, the risk of incursion grows every second someone spends in another universe. Whether they were traveling through multiverse, or dreamwalking.
Chavez has a home universe, her moms have home universe, and all 3 of them are currently spending time in some different universe.
@@whatsawhizzerwebnovels4927just kill the other Wanda
A vastly superior version of the film. Now they can make the rest of the scenes Wanda and Strange having funny banter about the different universes until Wanda realizes after training the absolute brat that is America that she doesn't actually want kids after all.
You just make me laugh, thanks!! ☺👍
A much more enjoyable version of the film would be Wanda trying to get pregnant.
Across the Spider-verse: Miguel did the exact same thing but the universe still collapse
The Warp's MCU: welp, guess i'll die
Whole movie wrapped up in an hour Max!
I want this for the entire MCU at some point
Wasn't this in mcu phase 4 deleted scene
Yeah even knowing she went insane due to the Not-Necronomicon, for the VIEWER seeing her go from generally unhinged, to full on supervillain from the course of a TV show and a movie was too much of a leap story wise. Like not a leap unrealistically, like a GIANT leap from one point to another.
2:19 You obviously got that from Rick & Morty :-)
The woman playing Wanda ATEEEEEE THIS I’m obsessed
Awww thanks!!
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Literally Spider-man 2099
This video missed the point of Wanda's full plan. Getting to a universe with her kids was only half of her issue. The other half was being able to use America's multiverse hopping powers to be able to go to any universe at any time. That way, if her kids had a problem that her current universe didn't have a solution for, like an incurable disease, then she would just use America's power to go to a different universe that did have the answer to the problem. So that way, in Wanda's mind, her kids would always be safe. So her just working with America to jump to a universe with her kids wouldn't have satisfied Wanda in the movie.
It really does feel like the MCU just assumes it's viewers are morons who won't ask these painfully obvious questions.
This video missed the point of Wanda's full plan. Getting to a universe with her kids was only half of her issue. The other half was being able to use America's multiverse hopping powers to be able to go to any universe at any time. That way, if her kids had a problem that her current universe didn't have a solution for, like an incurable disease, then she would just use America's power to go to a different universe that did have the answer to the problem. So that way, in Wanda's mind, her kids would always be safe. So her just working with America to jump to a universe with her kids wouldn't have satisfied Wanda in the movie.
I had that EXACT same thought DURING my first time watching this.
That actuallly in the movie like fr
In the first Dr.Strange movie Wong said that the slide ring can open portal to everywhere in the multivers
Except eViL bOoK barely mentioned in wandavision and mostly a plot point in agents of shield (not kidding) turned her insane off screen! Fuck all that character development in Wandavision or common sense because eViL bOoK!
The Darkhold shows the worst way to achieve your goals.
For a few mements I though I was watching the movie. Awesome work with the actors costumes!
Wanda just commited Rick & Morty 😂
The problem with this is don’t seem to understand that Darkhold corrupts, so that why she only thinking of doing something bad to get what she wants.
Thank you! That's what I was thinking. Like shouldn't the movie be a Lord of the Rings situation with the Darkhold instead of the One Ring & probably Cthon who wrote it instead of Sauron? I also have a theory Agatha Harkness is heroic like in the comics, just the Darkhold messed her up...and maybe her spin-off will deal with her possible redemption.
They still managed to convince Wanda to stop, and even destroy the Darkhold in the end.
@@Bruced82, actually, it is her children being scared of her showed her the truth that she has become a monster and it is because of the Dark hold.
Scarlet Sheppard is a good Wanda Maximoff.
This idea was already discussed by several people when the movie was in the theaters. Anyway nice presentation of the concept
*Migel O'Hara theme starts to play*
she don't even gotta do that, go on a dating app or something! for every guy scared of her powers 3 more are lining up for a date with her.
Yeah at first it bothered me too, the short answer was Darkhold corrupting her but that was no excuse for Dr. Strange to not point out. Like he was very close in Kamar-Taj face off however but asked the question without any more suggestion.
Look, you're missing the point. The point was to make Wanda evil so the MCU could kill off another female character.
One of the best ones also.so sad
...and they lived happily ever after ...
until the incursion
I mean YEAH! THIS IS SO RIGHT!
Since the multiverse is real, this is 100% canon!!!!
Literally the whole time I watched this movie I was just like "We live in a Post Rick and Morty world, you can't make this plot work now" Cuz reminder to everyone, Rick and Morty literally swapped their bodies out with a universe where they immediately died.
This video missed the point of Wanda's full plan. Getting to a universe with her kids was only half of her issue. The other half was being able to use America's multiverse hopping powers to be able to go to any universe at any time. That way, if her kids had a problem that her current universe didn't have a solution for, like an incurable disease, then she would just use America's power to go to a different universe that did have the answer to the problem. So that way, in Wanda's mind, her kids would always be safe. So her just working with America to jump to a universe with her kids wouldn't have satisfied Wanda in the movie.
@@JBKiser America could just give the solution, Wanda can clearly talk and control across multiple universes.
wanda's actress playing AWESOME!
Thanks! ❤
Every man in every multiverse had said
"How about a help you out with the kids situation, i mean, we could go to a dinner first but iam pretty cool without it. We could even start right here, right now if you want. Or i open a Portal to a plane, never had fun in the sky you know"
THIS WAS BETTER THAN THE ACTUAL MOVIE!
I would be happy if doctor strange would not stand around most of his own movie and at least pretend to be the socerer supreme. That was avatar the airbender level of represetstion of this character.
This was the first thing I thought about, realities are infinite which means any reality you think can exist, already exist so she doesn't need to do anything crazy to get her children back.
This video missed the point of Wanda's full plan. Getting to a universe with her kids was only half of her issue. The other half was being able to use America's multiverse hopping powers to be able to go to any universe at any time. That way, if her kids had a problem that her current universe didn't have a solution for, like an incurable disease, then she would just use America's power to go to a different universe that did have the answer to the problem. So that way, in Wanda's mind, her kids would always be safe. So her just working with America to jump to a universe with her kids wouldn't have satisfied Wanda in the movie.
@@JBKiser Just find a reality where that problem is fixable, and any problem is fixable, or just doesn't happen, infinite realities afterall
@@MelonLight222 That's what her plan is. To find a universe that has a fix to whatever issue may arise. She won't know what issue needs fixing until it happens though. She is powerful but can't see the future. So she won't know what illness or whatever needs a fix until it happens to her kids, then she would find a universe that has the fix.
This is better than how it should have ended.
Wanda’s clearly never seen Rick & Morty
To be fair, Wanda was manipulated by a book of literal evil, common sense and reason can be a bit of a blur when you are offered everything you can ever want regardless of the cost
Ya. But movie didn't cared to show her struggle under Darkhold..
I think film crew thought that it would be enough to show Sinister Strange to get the corruption memo
But I mean, isn't that kind of a lazy writing gimmick? Instead of adding nuance to why she's evil, or explaining how the book even works we just get the lazy "The devil(book) made me do it"
Not taking into account how she wanted to be able to cure any disease tho.
How did these two manage to make a believable comic act out of these serious characters and yet retain bits of Elizabeth and Benedict's respective portrayals of the characters? Like, damn!
Thanks fellow Scarlet! =D
Damn they pulled a rick and morty
nah, rick and morty is all about poking fun at overused things in stories, destroy the world, but genious scientist saves the day, nope, loving mom and dad family, nope, marriage hanging on by a thread, all consuming hive mind alien? nope its got goals and an every day life
Ricks multiverse travel is only a plot device where they can explore overused ideas
In marvel, multiverse means, lazy writing, 20 min segments before they introduce an unprompted idea, gender swap, another dumb idea that's actually just footage they didn't want to cut, etc
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2:34 why give credit to Sam Raimi ??
You are over 1 year older now.
Okay, that was 23% better than I thought it would be, well done!
Or she could try tinder.
With her powers of mind-control, she can just pick almost any (un)lucky dude.
Strange really stole Star-Lord's "I like your plan, except it sucks. So let me do the plan, and that way, it might be really good."
Is this a reupload? I could have sworn I watched this the other day.
Yes, I also watched this before.
The funniest thing is that, technically, this is canon because this is one of the infinite possibilities at the end of the day. Yet they'll still have to take care of 616's Wanda lol😂😂😂😂😂😂
Now, Incredible work!!!!!!! Loved it!!😄😄😄🤩🤩🤩💯💯💯💯
We need a proper movie from you guys 😂
This isn't new content guys. It's literally just the Doctor Strange 2 scene from their video "Marvel Phase 4 but 23% Smarter" that was uploaded 2 months ago
That was quick 😊
Honestly if multiverse of madness was 23% smarter i would've just slinged ringed all the way to the book of vishanti, use the book to defeat scarlet witch with it and use it to defeat future threats because it can grant a sorcerer any power they need to defeat their enemy
I did like that they established that dreams are glimpses into other realities. Since technically, in an existence where the multiverse is real, anything you could possibly dream is a reality somewhere.
Tva agents: you shouldn't be here
Still better than 99% of phase 4....
Simple solution: She could get married to a human in this universe and have children the normal way. That is the smartest solution. I kept saying the whole time I was watching the movie. Loving an android has been the root of most of Wanda's problems.