SHOGUN: John Blackthorne REAL STORY Explained
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 มิ.ย. 2024
- I review, breakdown and explain Shogun Episode 1 & 2 on FX. I discuss the character John Blackthorne and reveal the real story behind him and how he was inspired by William Adams. I react to the other inspiration and true story in history which is Toranaga who is inspired by Tokagawa and how similar it is to the show. I also give my theories and predictions on episode 3.
00:00 Intro
00:45 John Blackthorne's Real Story
08:04 Outro
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What did you think of the first two episodes of Shogun? Let me know your thoughts below!
I was excited for the show and so far, it's living up to my expectations!! Can't wait to see how it all unfolds.
What @JuvyThaKid said.
"Age of Samurai: Battle For Japan" (Netflix or Pirate ar matey!) is a really good Documentary to pair with this show IMO. It tells the REAL HISTORY leading up to what happens in Shogun.
@@RomoreduxLmao, from what I heard and what I saw while watching the show, it was riddled with NUMEROUS historically inaccurate details. If you want to look further into it you can watch the review put out by Metatron (medieval history channel) where he dissects the many errors made. It also annoyed me in the show when the commentators kept saying “this was the single most important battle in Japanese history” after every battle they talked about.
It lacks the "Charm" of the original in my opinion.
Ayy, I actually live in Gillingham the town William Adams is from. We used to have a Will Adams festival every year where we would have a lot of Japanese entertainment including food, music, origami, manga and I even got to wear authentic samurai armour. The game Nioh is also based on him BTW.
They have a festival in Japan also, celebrating where he used to live
@@Rowlph8888 @kris123o that's awesome
@@Rowlph8888 Where and when? I'd go anywhere for a cultural experience.
Nioh is lit son
My nephew worked on this show and we have been getting together every week to watch the new episodes. I can't believe how incredible it is! It's fun getting his comments and hearing little behind the scenes stories. Like having an interactive dvd feature sitting next to me on the couch😂
Senseless.
@@lisasummers1163 Eviscerate.
As a Portuguese person, it never stops being funny when I seem them say/claim they're are speaking/going to speak Portuguese and then start speaking in English. I understand why that is but... Still funny though.
I started my Shogun journey when the book first came out and, much as I like respect the actor who played Blackthorne in the original TV series, I I MUCH prefer this one. To me it makes more sense that he’s a bit of a rascal, as well as fearless and outspoken, as he is in this epic, amazing, gorgeous version of Shogun.❤❤❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉
I really enjoyed the original SHOGUN, 1980, and I've always been a fan of Richard Chamberlain, but the 1980 version has aged like -fine wine- milk.
Before HBO really upped the ante for TV, in the late 90's, it was very rare to see anything beyond the formulaic rehashes, with a kindergarten level 'join-the-don't's' moral to the story.
Bad guys in black hats, good guy in a white hat (or kimono), total absence of subtlety, absolutely predictable ending... Hardly surprising that SHOGUN, 1980, has aged very badly.
Two episodes in to SHOGUN, 2024, and I'm blown away! Who said 'The golden age of TV ended in 2018"? Just because GAME OF THRONES dropped on quality...
SHOGUN, 2024, is absolute proof that we're still very much enjoying the Golden Age of TV. Get ready for SHARDLAKE and WOLF HALL: Pt 2, later in the year.
Well, this show would probably have been rated R back in 1984.
Broad strokes accurate enough is good enough for me. Loved the book for many years.
Really enjoyable to be honest very interesting backstory of William truth to this story as such
I am here after watching the 3rd episode, this show is intense!
It's good isn't it!
I am liking this show as much or more than the first Shogun miniseries that aired back in the 80's? I have been fascinated by Japanese culture and history ever since. Love your narration of the first two episodes. I haven't watched the third one yet plan to do that tonight. Watching this series has me thinking it's finally time for me to read the book Shogun by James Cavil. Hooked yourself another subscriber. Thanks for the video.
Amazing in shogun every character was based on a real person! Yes , this stuff actually happened! 🤯🤯🤯🤯😎😎😎😎👍👍👍👍
Hands down : one of the finest television series ....I've ever seen.
Yeah it's exciting to see where it's gonna go!
Thanks . Fascinating real history.
Yeah it really is! Glad you enjoyed the video
Stumbled upon the channel by chance. Love the voice bro, and the scripts are well developed and written. Great job
Thanks George! Glad you enjoyed the video
Leave it to a Brit to mispronounce almost every foreigner word though.
It would be more interesting to show the comparisons between the show’s/novel’s Taranaga and the real-life Tokugawa. They have some correct details about Tokugawa and Japanese history prior to 1600, but then other things have changed. It all seems a little strange to create a fictionalized version of such an iconic historical figure.
Can't wait for episode 3
Same here! Has the potential to be one of the best shows of the first part of the year!
@@BrainPilot potential for one of best shows of all time
Agreed!@@BrainPilot
I've been so impressed with the first 2 episodes. Everything looks so good, there are a few forgivable moments where Anjin was speaking to everyone in Portuguese without translation, takes the clunkiness out in the end.
Don't need theories/spoilers really here my man; the show is based off of an INCREDIBLY well known novel from the 1970s, and the show was already made in the early 1980s. Still nice vid about lineups with real history though. The first two episodes were pretty damn accurate to parts of the book, so I imagine they are staying pretty true to source material with this.
It’s like he doesn’t know the book exists.
I didn’t know about the book and there are a lot of people who wouldn’t have.
lets me guess he's the white superhero of japan that takes the kings woman. predictable
@@ricardomarin487 Not really. More like he is used by Toranaga as a pawn to destabilize his enemies so Toranaga can accomplish his goals. White dude stays trapped in Japan. You did watch the video and see he's based on a real person, right?
Can u give me the book name so I can study bro ?@@erdrickcapet3945
It is brilliant and fascinating
did you notice that when Anjinsan got pee'd on by Omi they both called each other savages. That was true from each others perception. (i think that has a name in the writing world)
Life expectancy is based on infant mortality rate. People that survived childhood would live to be in their 80 just like today.
we can live up to 120 now due to modern medicine, but you are correct about the rate calculation.
I agree with your statement about infant mortality affecting life expectancy rates, but I think you mean “could” instead of “would” live to be 80. Many people even today don’t live to 80.
Nioh
The First Samurai Knight
Trush game
@@javmost0710It's very good actually
1. Ieyasu is pronounced "Ee-yay-ah-soo," not "Lee-yay-soo."
2. Edo is pronounced "Eh-doh," not "Ee-doh."
Cope harder
Hey i do recommend for every one to read the book. there a few key differences between the old tv-series and this new adoption.
Great analysis
I watched the first two episodes and it's following very closely to the Richard Chamberlain series of Shogun.
It’s such a great book so happy they finally made a show of it
Yeah this show is one of the best things on TV right now!
Watch Shogun 1980. This is the first show based off from the book.
I just want to ask something, you said the dutch were at war with the Spanish, it wasn't with Portugal instead? in the luso - dutch war between 1593-1663 ?
Y'all do know this was a book before a miniseries before this one right?
Guys pls read james Clavell's novel Shogun
Then you read Taipan,Whirlwind,Noble House....
Thanks
How much different is the current Shogun show in comparison to the 1980 one?
SAMURAI WILLIAM: THE ADVENTURER WHO UNLOCKED JAPAN, 2002, by Giles Milton. Amazing book! There's always far more books that I'd like to read than those that I actually do read.
There's just not enough time to read every book that looks great. Having said that there are a very few books that I return to and re-read, multiple times. SAMURAI WILLIAM is one.
It also inspired me to read every Giles Milton non-fiction book. I enjoyed them all. THE RIDDLE AND THE KNIGHT, WHITE GOLD, and RUSSIAN ROULETTE belong to my shelf of elite books that I've read more than once. Astonishing that RUSSIAN ROULETTE made that shelf, usually I do not favour 20th Century history, far preferring events predating 1815, or even 1689.
Thank you for the reading suggestions! I've managed to take a small chunk outta my TBR list by listening to Audio books; but it's hard to fall asleep 'reading' them...lol
Inspired, I started reading the book yesterday.
I suggest getting it. It's so good I'm on page 235 already.
There are 4 hours of an audiobook on TH-cam read by an Englishman.
The "official audiobook" got on my nerves.
Too much acting. Screaming. I prefer a clean relaxing read that a TH-camr posted . UK text to speech is nice too.
The plot armor for this man is crazy
It’s funny cuz he actually existed and just was absolutely blessed
"Plot Armour" is a stupid concept. Seriously. It undermines the ability to tell any story.
Go read some real life biographies. Things that are fully documented as happening. Things that you know are true. Amazing things happen sometimes. Luck happens sometimes. People survive incredible circumstances. This is how reality works. It's how it has always worked. Not everyone is "average" and living "average" lives.
Amazing stories are written about the people who survive amazing things. The stories are told AFTER they survived. Of course they survived, or they wouldn't be telling the story. Of course they did amazing things, or there wouldn't be a story to tell.
Go read some biographies. Reality is more interesting than the "plot armour" or "That Happened" people think.
try reading Unbroken by Laura Hillenbrand. if we talking real life plot armor that man is invincible and its a true story.
Enjoy the moments and stop thinking what will happen
This is one of the bloody good series~~ damn intense and exciting ~~
Yeah it is so good!
Even though there is only 2 episodes so far they are off to a really strong start
Yeah I agree!
As much as I dig the show, so far its kind of falling short on blackthornes cleverness and ability to pick up on the language and culture, but since there trying to bring more light to toronaga and mariko, i get it, but there is some great moments that are left out, read the book its fantastic! Some great cinematography so far! Cant wait to see Blackthorne act the fool to escape Osaka castle!
Of course there are some things that are left out. The audiobook is 53 hours, and they're condensing that down to a 10 hour limited series.
I tell you, Nestor Carbonell is a great actor. I hardly recognized that guy. lol
It was a pleasant surprise to see him on screen again. Very fun character for him to play.
This will be the best show of the year
It's probably going to be up there!
How dare you insult this show! This is the greatest show of all cinematic history. Nothing this good ever came before it, nothing this good will ever come after.
I wish people would just read the books instead of just watching shows about it. This goes for Shogun, The Expanse, Wheel of Time and so many others. The Shogun novel is epic, it brings to life the characters and backstory in a way no show ever could.
Not everyone likes to read
@@kidcourage5777 well that’s a shame because you get smarter the more you read. And more dumb the less of it you do.
@@ctrlaltdestroy8821 that is very true
Its exciting when you see the people acting
@@ctrlaltdestroy8821You definitely dont get smarter by reading. You do get more knowledge, but that s it.
A feast for the eyes...it is quite different from the original mini-series.
well Read the book You will ftnd why he is called john
Greettings from Romania
1:00 life expectancy from centuries ago is very misunderstood. Sure, it was lower, but the main thing driving it down was infant mortality rates, many children died at birth or within the first year, making to 60 was actually not uncommon as we tend to believe.
Guy was so good he sent child support and alimony back home to his kid even when it was the other side of the world.
A real good series.
Definitely!
I had to watch both episodes twice to catch all of the details of the politics of the time. I have a and MFA in 20th century history but never studied Asia beyond a 101 level intro to Japan. The more I learn of what Christianity and Abraham's 3 religions have done to humanity over time the more I resent these religions, their greed, repression, violence and their corruption.
Facts and they did it all in the name of God
While all religions are filled with greed, violence, and corruption no human institution is worse than the institutions of human government. These institutions have done more to push misery and destruction than anything else in history. The common denominator is the human need for power and control
Wait till you hear about what communism has done to eastern europe, southeast asia and some latin American nations. You harbor hatred for what some people in the name of some religion have done, but who tf started WW2? An Austrian Pagan. WW1? An atheist lol. Come on bro use your brain
I was pretty confused when I saw Tokugawas Emblem in the show but he didn't use that name...
Yeah I know what you mean!
If they ever remake the movie COMMANDO, this actor would make a perfect Bennett!
Names in Japanese are in reverse order to those in English. Ieyasu is the given name and Tokugawa is the surname.
What I’m seeing is this is essentially Pocahontas in Japan
Tokugawa's name is pronounced ee ay soo
Adams: I really want to go home! Ieyasu: You're now a nobleman, here's a nice little estate, and there's this pretty Japanese girl I'd like to introduce to you. Adams: I could be at home here..
Lol, true!
"Yea" is pronounced Yay, like the opposite of Nay. Just as an observation :D
Ah thanks! I wasn't aware of that!
William went to Japan to find Edward Kelly and ended up fighting demons and using amrita to boost his strength
You seem to be completely unaware that this is an adaptation of James Cavell's book of the same name.
"Hey baby I'm sorry I really want to come home, but the Shogun won't let me leave, he's forcing me to live in luxury and remarry 🤷"😂
I read the book, I think in 99 or 00
Life expectancy was higher and not so much different when you exclude child deaths. When you reached the age of 14-15, you had a good chance to live a normal lifespan.
the average life span is so low because of the high infant mortality rate. if a person was born and happened to survive childhood, there was a pretty good chance he or she would live into his or her 70s.
Ahh so like because so many children died it brought the average way down but people that survived lived long
@@PrOtaku123 exactly. archaeology has shown us that ancient man was generally pretty healthy, if consuming a decent diet and not contracting any diseases.
I think 70s was still pretty rare in the early modern period. Think of all the things that could kill you without antibiotics and modern surgery. If you got appendicitis, you die. Plague was endemic, smallpox, tuberculosis, famine, etc. Lots of adult women also died in childbirth.
Don't you know?sengoku jidai era
This 2024 is from Toranaga's point of view while the 1980 version is exactly the same as the book- from Blackthorne's poi nt of view.😅
What did you think of the first two episodes of Shogun? Let me know your thoughts below!
Well done you glorious bastards!!!! Yes!!! Yes!!! Well done you glorious bastards!!! Well done!!!
-John Blackthorn - Episode 3
Does William Adams have any living descendents in Japan?
If he does, do they know?
I have the Book Shogun.
I might have to give it a read alongside the series!
Its Ieyasu (ee-ay-ah-soo) not Leyasu. There are no Ls in Japan.
Cosmo looks and acts like cdawg
This actor must have studied Richard Burton's voice
Cosmo is great with changing voices/accents. His Irish accent in Calm with horses ( in the US it's called the shadow of violence). The movie is really good and his chemistry with Barry Keoghan is great in it too
Sin duda este individuo no necesita actuar mucho, porque es la perfecta imagen del estiercol anglosajón
Magellan (Mah-je-lan)
So, this show is going to become engraved in our collective memory as historical truth the same way Disney's Pocahontas did, which is to say, it's fabricated but people still think it all happened exactly like it's portrayed.
Isn't that great...
Almost an exact copy of the original 1980 series with different cast.
In your extensive research, did it ever come up that the show is an adaptation of a novel? :D
Which is based on real evidence of the comings and goings of William Adams, which has Personal 1st person extensive testimony,, Not only from Adams, but Japanese "at the time."
@@Rowlph8888 Indeed. It just annoys me that everyone and their dog learned about the Shogun story being based on the life and exploits of William Adams a week ago and now my feed is full of 10 videos a day about it and some, like this one, do not even register that the show and its characters are not directly based on William Adams but on a novel by James Clavell.
@@tetragrammaton111 True, but it's easy to check closeness to the real-life figure, In this case, because Adams Letters to his wife are in understandable English and I heard somewhere that he also kept a makeshift diary
Why did the show include a character named John…… because the show is based off an historical fiction book
those creepy contacts arent working.
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Yi sun shin slayed them all, drowning them all into the deep bottom of the ocean. In korea, Samurai?? haha. If there were no Imjin war and Yi sunshin, Hideyoshi would be still in rule the island. Dokukawa should have thank Yi sun shin for the throne.
The chad Yi Sun Shin
Tokugawa's name was pronounced EE-EH-YAH-SOO Tokugawa. Just FYI.
lol. Show to be renamed “shogun- the first Weab”
I think the original Shogun did a fantastic job as recognizing that it was going to be a primarily Western-American audience that didn't know a damn thing about Japan, and focusing the viewer to learn about everything only as Blackthorne discovered it worked really well. However, with the rapid rise of Japanese culture and history spreading through the last 40 years of media, I do believe the director and writers went too far in the opposite direction, and dropped us right in the middle of politicking as though we were all well-educated Sengoku Jedai enthusiasts already. Now, I am a Sengoku Jedai enthusiast, but what seduced me to the original 1980 Shogun was the lack of subtitles and the sense that you truly are a strange person in a very strange place. Here, as it is, it leaves me too much room to criticize the stoic and silent and frankly boring Torunaga and the utterly ice-cold demeanour of who is supposed to be our, the viewer's, ticket into Japanese culture: Mariko. Both of these characters, meant to be 'progressive' in the sense of being radical in the eyes of contemporary Japanese society, felt THE MOST conservative-Japanese out of the entire cast. I think Clavell's original intent, and the 1980 intent, was to demonstrate that these characters are 'progressive' only within the cultural hegemony of Japan. So far, the first two episodes floundered that for me.
They keep calling him a pirate and no one ever denies it and I don’t understand why not like he not a pirate. He even tells them his true meaning to kill the Catholics and yet they still want to believe he is a pirate
The 80's mini-series with Richard Chamberlain is still better, so far...
Fair, we are only two episodes in though. Plenty of time
Don't forget that "Shogun" is based on James Clavell's novel, not straight from history.
Stupid comment considering shogun is based off historical events 😂Catholic are ya?
@@samantharenee1667 What an incredibly stupid comment to make. Especially since "Shogun" and the two adaptations are historical DRAMAS. The novel is not a history book and the two miniseries are not documentaries.
Definitely not a stupid comment considering this channel doesn’t seem to mention there is a book at all
@@joyfulgirl91 That's your argument? Oh brother.
I liked the character John Blackthorne from the Shogun 1980 miniseries better than this one, but I'm following the story much better in this 2024 series.
That's fair! Maybe he'll grow, but time will tell!
It’s only been 2 episodes, and the actor has done a great job so far
@@thatonegirlazu9847 agreed💯
I prefer this one by miles. This one acts like a real human would. He seems morally ambiguous, calculating and shrewd. And his lines are much better by the way but thats not on the actors...
Yeah either we were too young or there is a lot of misunderstanding on the 1980 one I didnt quite fully understand the story, but the new one makes the story very clear
the original isekai?
You made it seem like the average adult lived to 35 years old.
If you made it to agree 10 you were expected to live to 60 to 70. Avg life expectancy counts infant deaths and that's what drives the age number down.
ieyasu.
I swear none of these people bothered to read the book.
ieyasu with an “i”. Not Leyasu. This just sloppy m8
Spoil me what in his book
The one that poisoned japanese minds against the portuguese
i played nioh i know what happened lolxd
I really don't care much for this character. I usually fast foreword past him.
単語を間違って発音する..
WTF... It's "Ieyasu" - the first letter is an "I" (i), not a flippin' "L"...
I dont know why the writers have to change the names of the characters. It’s based on real life, just keep the names the same as the real person and put some artistic license in around the real story to fill it out
Shogun is based directly on the novel “Shogun” that named the characters which are loosely based on real historical characters. The author used fictional characters to avoid backlash, in my opinion.
not good enough ta be called clikbait
I thought its black Americans was the first
There is no black americans in Japan shogunate
Mildly infuriating analysis
And its woke free