I think the MacBooks battery life is a huge selling point, but what ultimately convinced me to get a ThinkPad was the fact that I could just open it for cleaning and changing the battery myself. Can't stand getting pushed to buy a whole new PC because of avoidable obsolescence.
TBH even tho im for Windows team, this is pretty much dumb reason.. holding something against the system that you have to do once every two years or so doesn't seem like good argument :D
@@brookswashere3400 I'm not sure what maintenance you a re talking about.. back cover comes easily off and you can blow the dust yourself, other than that i'm not sure what would one consider maintenance
Really enjoy these reviews. No beating around the bush, just diving straight in with a pretty straightforward and structured video. Keep this going, you have a great formula
I didn't understand why the MBP M1 booted up too slow in this video. My MacBook M1 Air boots up nearly fast as Lenovo X1. Mine is the 16 / 256 GB version.
Mine is only 8gb but I wouldn’t have thought that would make much difference. I tested a few times and mine always boots this speed. I don’t even have a lot of start up tasks or anything to slow it down 😢
You are so completely right. I think windows manufacturers are going to have to start lowering prices to become competitive against apple, that is something I never thought I would hear myself saying!!
Great review. I own both the M1 MBP and the X1 Carbon. Both are beautiful machines, very comfortable to use, lovely screens, trackpads and keyboards, both best in class, but the M1 is truly in a different league when it comes to performance and battery life. CPU performance is equivalent to a desktop Core i7 9700K that I have in my desktop gaming PC, which is crazy. Anyone getting either of these machines would be very happy, I think.
Is there a review of thinkpads vs MacBook being dropped? You mentioned MacBook Pro shattering into pieces. My x1 carbon fell from my bed and destroyed power section on the side which I was told would cost me nearly $200 to repair. Repair person told me that it could even cost more if motherboard was affected. This is my only hesitancy of sticking with thinkpads which I have used for decades. I only dropped thinkpad once and it’s completely unusable, also chipping a section of the laptop.
Underrated channel. That’s how you do a review without directly influencing the purchasing decision of viewer. He gave a use case for both machines. Thank you!
It's because he is British, young sir, not an American, which is to say he has some level of intelligence instead of blindly creaming himself all over the camera every time Apple farts. -Ivan Miochic, with love from Russia 💙
I don't know how Lenovo could create the best keyboard in the laptop, and Apple create the best trackpad in laptop, if they combined, that would be insane.
Great review!!! I own both the M1 MacBook Air and the X1 Carbon and wow I have to agree with EVERYTHING you said and it's rare that I agree 100% with a reviewers assessment. I too prefer the X1 Carbon for all the reasons you listed (ports and ability to upgrade the SSD is a big advantage). Re: price differential, Lenovo runs lots of sales you just have to be vigilant and patient and you'll find that you can get the X1 Carbon at significant discounts (e.g., $300-400 off on a good sale).
You make a good point here. I've found killer deals on mine. I even have a Lenovo P15 Gen 2 that I paid $1,229 for and it came with 32 GB and 1TB. Easy to upgrade and maintain. You can easily find certified refurbished deals online or even on Ebay with warranty intact. Great way to save.
That great keyboard in ThinkPad x1 .. I love coding on that fast enough think pad. Plus you have think pad doc station.. just doc and use your accessories awesome.. windows hello saves me from entering that 16 character length password 😀
After my windows 10 got a blue screen and seing the absolute complexe mess of CMD commands and all that shit...i am now a Mac OS peeson,my next laptop will definitely be the M2 macbook...fuck windows
Great comprehensive review as always! Both great laptops and I agree with your conclusion for general purpose use you just can't beat the solid Apple package and that CPU is just on another level but like you I would probably opt for the Thinkpad as I use Linux.
Thank you mate, glad you enjoyed it. I plan on installing linux on the carbon tomorrow, hopefully I can get it all up and running, I haven't used linux for a few years
YAY!!! This is the Review we have been waiting for. Two, of the BEST, Cutting Edge machines compared head to head !!! REAL Comparisons that people can use👌👌👌👍👍👍
I was close to getting an X1 extreme, but due to delays and the M1's fanfare, ending up with the M1. I have to note, the M1 isn't just for casual users; I'm a developer and running an IDE, browser w/devtools, VM (w/some youtube in the background) it doesn't break a sweat. I push it when constantly running e2e tests though. I envy the Thinkpad's ports though, and like you, prefer the look. Also, not everything is compatible with the ARM64, and Windows is still ubiquitous in the business world.
@@PsycosisIncarnated Yeah, went with the 16GB (I was afraid 16GB wasn't enough but the M1's memory management makes it very fast). Many people really liked the Air, but I occasionally need the MBP fans to kick on when running heavier workloads. This M1 remains one of the best deals unless you need additional power/ports of the new Pro/Max models.
@@Joel-yp4yt im getting into eng and do u think i should get thw m1 air or an old x1 carbon for half the price, gonna learn start coding so compatibility is really going to be imp to me
@@Sahilwanders I can only speak for web dev, but using mac or linux is probably best since they're unix-based and most docs/tutorials use unix commands - sounds like a small benefit but when you're learning, having to look for equivalent windows commands gets tedious (I started learning on windows) If you want to save money, you can try using x1 with linux or wsl, but mac is probably easiest to jump in and use out of the box. I'm still using the original m1 and no problems at all. I've also seen videos where the m1 air outperforms top-end intel macs with some video editing tasks and although I can't speak from experience, it's quite impressive
Also, good luck on your journey! If you can afford an extra wide monitor (or at least a cheap regular one) it is a huge productivity-booster when coding.
The real issue with the windows laptop is at the time of buying, they work and perform the best. After 5 years of use, they barely perform. But the MacBook will be serving the same as years go by. You will see real degradation in MacBook only after 8 years or later.
I can only share your opinion, I am using Macbooks since years, but I started from IBM T20 series thru many T series then, and X series and this what I can say is I spent a lot of money in last 10 years on Macbooks .... few days back I have purchased used X280 ... and I am so fuc.... impressed it cost bout 150 EURos and I am doing things I did on my MCB which cost me about 2500 EUR .... it is insane, thanks to Kali Linux (: the old love is still in me to IBM/Lenovo T/X series they are making amazing laptops still. I just wondered to buy a new MBP 14 M3 but after this experience with X280 Lenovo I am wondering to buy a X1 Carbon ..... really, I have purchased Macbooks because of amazing OS not equipment but super safe fast OS but in terms of hardware in my opinion MBP is a lot overpriced, payng 2,5-5K euros for laptop is insane .....
I absolutely abhor trackpads and always have, so I’m buying a Thinkpad until the bitter end. Once you go into the track point settings and adjust the sensitivity up, you can whisk the pointer around the screen with very little input and you never need to move your fingers away from the front row keys.
thanks for the review/comparison between both laptops. i bought a refurbished thinkpad carbon x1 gen6 2018 and set it up and acclimated immediately to it and i dont miss the macbook pro 2016 at all. in fact, x1 gen6 has more functionality and can customize much better than the macbook pro. the only thing the macbook pro is tops is with the batter power versus the refurbished one. im sold on the gen 6 just by being able to replace the battery. the last time you were able to do so on the macbook pro was in 2008.
I purchased the X1 carbon gen 9 because of the keyboard, look, and software compatibility for business use. I also like the retro look as I learned on an IBM machine. In 2012 I purchased the MacBook Pro and Ike enjoyed it because it just worked. The only issue I found was I the business community generally uses windows applications. I use Microsoft office at work and the software is different on the mac. I still prefer Apple but found the price too high and they don’t have deep discounts like Lenovo. I don’t like that the new laptops are eliminating ports so I would like to find a good port extender. What do you recommend? I dislike cords and attachments. I did purchase an external DVD burner.
Nice comparison! I use both a MacBookPro and a Lenovo laptop (T560) and for me I prefer the matte screen. But what almost always is forgotten.. With a Mac you can start right away after unboxing, no need to pay extra for an office suite.. It is included in the operating system. (I don't want to go in discussion if a virus scanner is neccesary ...) Another point is the cooperative working with other Apple products; copy on one device and paste it on the other (Apple)device, airdrop etc.
Excellent review. Just a $200 difference at 16gb. Fastest cpu gpu. Other than amd and intel 8 cores cpus and dedicated gpus best trackpad sharper screen better battery all metal apple. Limited app and os selection. Great base price quiet and cool with the iphone chip. Faster on battery clearer speakers. Durability repairability upgradeability ssd battery wan card ports usba hdmi thunderbolt 4 not three egpu multi monitor resistant keys face id with privacy shutter louder speakers keyboard soft touch tons of apps and linux hackintosh hotter and louder although not really hot and loud lises some performance unplugged for a four core it actually us almost as fast as the m1 in single core and about 25 percent slower in multi plugged in that is. Games games games.
@@MashITTech Yes. But most people only have one or two machines, also they will only choose one kind of OS. For me, if I have to use a non-apple machine, like Thinkpad or XPS, I will choose to install the Ubuntu or CentOS. Because I can not leave terminal. Now windows has terminal, and linux subsystem, but it is still not as convenient as the original linux. The only reason I have to use Windows is Microsoft Office.
@@MashITTech But we have to admit that not every one needs terminal and programming, but most people needs MS office. Also, windows devices have more choices, and the Apple hardwares are much more expensive.
I prefer the air (own both) , but I can't run VS in a VM on the arm chip (with acceptable performance) so I use the x1 most of the time. The lack of a good windows environment on the M1 macs is going to be a problem for devs.
Side-by-Side Comparison!! You did an amazing job, thank you for doing these and I hope you'll continue this style. Not that words don't matter, but it's more objective and trustworthy when a reviewer actually presents the evidence of what they're claiming about the devices being reviewed :D On a side note, most people don't seem to understand, that the M1 still has *BETTER PERFORMANCE UNPLUGGED* than the best Ryzen chips, which is where it matters most. Running heavy-duty tasks on MacBooks on battery without losing both Battery Life or Performance too much, has always been a huge benefit of Apple laptops, even when they were Intel.
Thank you mate, I really enjoy making these so plan to do more. Do you think I covered everything? There is so much to try and cover and I really could have added another 15 minutes!
@@MashITTech I suspect majority will probably prefer shorter content, which is why many older tech channels (ie. MobileTechReview) have simplified and reduced their content, to get more people to watch. Personally I absolutely prefer longer content with timestamps, because they're the most helpful when I'm trying to learn something new and interesting, or actually interested in buying a product (ie. JarrodTech and Techtesters) You're review style reminds me a lot of LTT's reviews, which I surprisingly found to be of the most useful even though that's not the main focus of their channel. Linus does a good job of easily explaining useful things from a potential user's perspective than other reviewers, who just test benchmarks and describe the hardware that's there, which many written reviews are better at doing. I LOVE your presentation and content, but sadly it may not be the most popular style to "get the views", since a lot of tech-review audience are tech-addicted enthusiasts who watch for "fun", rather than potential-consumers who are genuinely curious and looking to buy. Anyways, I think you're fantastic just the way you're doing right now! 👍
Thank you mate, I appreciate that. To be honest, I cate less about popularity and more about doing what I enjoy which is delving right into these laptops. As long as I can make enough money to keep buying new laptops I am happy. It is good to know there are people out there still want the in depth content and I think I would struggle to make a 5-10 minute review like Dave2d anyway.
I just bought an X1 gen 4 from a college surplus store. It was sold as scrap for $10. It has an 7 with 8gb ram, no ssd, and a 1440 display. I can't find what they thought was wrong with it, it works great. I'm all in with the ssd and charger for under $50
I own both of these laptops. Both are nice. The m1 is usually laying around the house living room or kitchen and I use it to surf the web, emails, research, plug it into the TV and watch movies or Netflix and edit photos on it. The ThinkPad is in my bag or desk. And I do my work from it, and run my business with it. There is a banking program I need to use for business and it doesn't even open or run on the mac. So each have thier use.
You kinda have to think of it this way / Lenovo is like the company Moen - you buy it once and buy it for life - where apple struggles is life expediency of its circuit boards and if it cant be fixed - you are Fubard - it seems to me the reliability of apple is going down where apple just tosses it in the garbage and says too bad - we wont learn what and why it failed but we'll sell ya a new one...
I'd love a MacBook, but I'm in the same camp as Linus Torvalds - they don't run or even support Linux, so... I'm sorry Apple, that's a loss on your side again...
If the Lenovo had a Ryzen 5800u it would smoke the M1 in CPU performance. But I don't think there are any laptop using that chip yet. AMD struggles a lot with supplying chips to customers wich is the reason why many brands still choose for intel over AMD.
ThinkPad X1 Carbon was an easy choice for me absolutely love the laptop especially for that all black case, keyboard, and compatibility. They are both great machines though for sure.
You know you can buy a USB dongle for allowing multiple screens and extra ports. Also Linux will be officially supported on the M1 soon. The reason to get a carbon is if you need Windows and Intel..
Yea but its not the same performance and there are other issues with refresh rate etc. Those go away with true thunderbolt 4 and a seperate hdmi in top or that and usba and upgradeable by the owner ssd wan and battery. If you need osx or their recent m1 bug sur apps. Macbook is the answer if not fir almist everything the thinkpad is just as fast except video rendering as apple has included deciders fir almost every format. Still the four core intel behaves more like a six core m1 so you are getting about 80 percent if the performance. And gaining a ton of features. Screen is not as sharp but its bugger with smaller bezels. Its like a give and take i can see how someone would live either of them. Although base model price if the macbook are a steal until you add ram and storage.
Sounds boring, but I’d take the $999 MacBook Air over a $1500 windows machine. My main reason though is I’m happily tied into apple already. The M1 Air is kinda a thing of beauty.
God, I just want them both. The mac because it’s beautiful, and the thinkpad for linux. I am wondering if Apple going forward will be more or less developer friendly. If they ported all GNU tools (like valgrind) and opened themselves up to linux I think they would kill it.
I'm thinking of getting a Thinkpad X1 Carbon with Linux on it. Hopefully things like audio quality are the same as Windows, as Lenovo sells them with Linux. Do you think there will be any firmware problems with Linux? I'm also thinking about pursuing a career in IT.
I have been using ThinkPad x380 yoga for 3 years. It's amazing. As you mentioned, it has one of the best keyboards around. Durability is another major advantage of thinkpad.
Thanks mate, I will give one a try. I am going to push myself to actually use it (I may disable the touchpad for a bit to force it as I naturally move to the touchpad)
Yeah, but you have to custom order that from some where or 3d print one. I find that the standard track point on my X1 Nano is quite a lot nicer on the fingers. I imagine it is a similar mechanism (3mm track point) on the Carbon Gen 9. Even still, I am using a "soft rim one" I rarely use the trackpad. Only on occasion.
With the battery life, low heat, better screen, and fast chip honestly its Macbook Pro for me. Even though throwing Manjaro on the thinkpad would probably be amazing I doubt it will be as good as Mac for what I do. I want to want the Carbon so bad but I just can't.
Hi Cody, yeah it is always a tough decision. I really love the m1 macbook and definitely recommend it to most especially casual users, but for me, I have to vote with the ports and matte screen. Now if the rumoured macbook pro 14" comes with m1x and ports then even I may have to switch to a macbook
Great review. But in the end it all boils down to one's OS preference. However superior Macbook Pro is or would be - MacOS is just not my cup of tea - I will still stick to maybe somehow inferior Windows laptops. So for me the hardware comparison between these two are a little bit pointless, sorry. Still watched it till the very end. lol
Thanks Denis, you are of course right! I am lucky enough to enjoy mac, Windows and Linux so I am able to use what ever decide is best. My preference is still Windows though if I have a choice
I have a Macbook Pro M1 and it gets very loud and hot when doing CPU intensive tasks, like exporting photos with Lightroom. It’s way louder than my Lenovo T470s when doing the same task.
I'd enjoy hearing your opinion on the 2021 LG gram series. I'm still undecided between the x1 nano, x1 carbon gen 9, and the LG gram. I haven't seen anything else that is interesting to me. I'm not really in the market for a Mac.
The Macbook with the M1 is a stellar computer. It would be "the" laptop to own if it weren't for being unable to run Windows on it in parallels or bootcamp or anything else. There's just too much business software needed in many scenarios (if not most) that is only available on Windows and/or that corporations choose vs. supporting use of MacOS. Personally, I think the weight is also excessive and the cases are too slippery (but that's due to the Apple preference of looks over everything else and therefore the single piece aluminum case. Good looking but a step back compared to the Lenovo materials.
Parallels is working-ish. You need to use the ARM version of windows and there is still some compatibility issues but its certainly getting there though I wouldn’t want to rely on it for business software. Fortunately most of the software I use works on windows on mac so I can pick based on preference on machine
@@MashITTech rewatch ur video again !! Its totally on Lenovo side - A to Z - Top to Bottom Reviewers’ biasness can be seen in 10 sec of any video which will not work for u on a longer run
@@smadeelibrahim it's quite literally a proven comparison. he gave it to apple on aspects such as trackpad, brightness, backlit keyboard, battery life, and general display. and no, the entire industry is not crazy about the macbook as the m1 is not compatible with many software which windows and linux can run. if you really came to this video crying if someone wasnt worshipping the macbook; youre the biased one. do some research and dont just go for the trends.
What do I think? Hmmm that’s a tough one. I haven’t used either, but it’s soon time to upgrade. I’m a programming student, so it’s either Linux or MacOS for me, never Windows. I currently run a thinkpad x200 with arch or my 2014 13 inch macbook pro. Max’s generally suck at Linux. Even my 2014 mb pro is so damn good, so quiet and fast it would be hard to not upgrade to M-series. That being said, I do prefer being able to “easily” use any Linux distro so that works in favor of the thinkpads. If they made a black macbook it would be game over. For now I will just keep watching these vids and wait to decide once my old macbook dies, if it does.
they do have the midnight blue m2 MacBook Air! I have one and it looks stunning. I do prefer windows/linux over MacOS but I can't deny they make great machines
Never happening as the X1 line is a collaboration between Intel and Lenovo. However Intel is pretty good now, after AMD knocked them out. Atleast in low power cpus.
I still can't get over the fact that Lenovo didn't put a 2K screen in the X1C gen9, it's so below the average in this price category. at FHD+ resolution x1c9 is not only just overpriced but more importantly, that resolution (or rather lack of) will be a direct impact on user experience. IF it had a 2K screen option I'd probably already have purchased it. Personally I'm really interested for a comparison between the X1C and the upcoming new X13. I feel like the X13 will be a more sensible product. It's either X1 nano to go full out portable, or X13 for best functionality. The X1C really feels oddly positioned, at least to me personally.
Buying an x86 chip in 2021 is a huge mistake, let alone an Intel crap, unless you’re *absolutely and ugently* in need. The industry will adjust to ARM in no time and you’ll be left with old tech, people don’t want to spend time and resources to support. Both Intel and AMD want to get rid of their old tech x86 chips to make the most profit off of them before switching; and these laptop and PC manufacturers have opportunuty to buy those for low price. I don’t accept that and if those companies will not come up with something to compete with M1 and insist on making x86 instead, I’ll switch to Mac for the first time in my life and never look back. The ARM had a long time coming, yet neither AMD, nor Intel have done anything about that. Now Apple will dominate the laptop market with M series, just like they do in smartphone market with A chips. They have that desktop class chip on a fucking tablet with a 1600 nit high res HDR screen; yet Lenovo is selling that crap with i7 for £1600. Nvidia will come up with ARM CPU’s and/or SoC’s and they will dominate and compete with Apple in this market while Intel and AMD trying to figure out what went wrong. They are already making great GPU’s and I’m glad they found this empty spot in the market. I guess they are sick and tired of the lack of innovation from AMD and Intel too. They don’t want to be dependent on Intel to sell their GPU’s anymore.
Hi Ekin, totally agree with you on a lot of your points and the m1 chip has been a real breath of fresh air but only because Apple have embraced it and optimised the OS and even succeeded in making emulation seamless. Look at the current arm situation in Windows! It is a real mess, then look at the surface pro x, also a mess. I think x86 will be here for a few years yet on Windows purely because Windows is such a popular platform and Ms are incapable of the sort of transition Apple can easily pull off.
Oh gawd man I totally agree with you and I can't wait for arm based external GPUs...jsut the lack of heat in my home PC build will be amazing for pushing the frames and performance on games even MORE
design aside, the MacBook Pro is pretty much unbeatable - that's from a Gen 4 and Gen 6 X1 Carbon owner - its even cheaper and I never thought we'd say that about an Apple product.
I really wouldn't overstate the rugged part. As soon as the Chinese took over, quality steadily declined. The only notebook that ever died on me due to falling was an X250. Safely enclosed in a thick neoprene case, it fell on the floor from about 3' and greeted me with a broken screen backlight. Solid ThinkPads are a thing of the past really.
Oh wow, sorry to hear that. What a shame, obviously I cant afford to test the X1 carbon with a drop test but I had hoped with the build and testing they would still be pretty rugged :(
@@MashITTech Well, it is just anecdotal evidence, of course, but they used to build them a lot better. I'm not saying they're _worse_ in that department than everybody else, but not that special anymore, either.
Very very very profession video. I personally prefer thinkpad considering it is still working after i dropped it on the aiport ground with a hug crack, plus a half of glass water spreaded on top of the keyboard.😂😂😂
Thank you for sharing such balanced information. I hear reviews about the Lenovo NOT being designed for Content Creators - Do you find that to be true? vs. the Mac having better webcam quality, etc.
Great video! Love your comparisons. The gen 9 Just recently became more available in store in my area so I’m probably going to head to a Lenovo store and try it out.
Let me know what you think of it! I really love the machine. I just got an X1 extreme into the office so I might compare those two if people are interested. The X1 extreme looks a little dated but has a lot of power so might be an interesting comparison
@@MashITTech I went into the Lenovo store and ended up buying the carbon! It was between this and the nano . Brought it home just a couple of hours ago. It was the ports and speakers that made the difference for me. It’s very nice. I feel I will really enjoy this one. It’s the LTE model as well 👍.
I am the user of Lenovo from ages, again in IT ! Terrible performance nd ages like anything. On the other hand even 10 years old Mac are working seamless for heavy use. That is wht my experience is
Its matte vs glossy, I personally like X1's matte screen so much, its like reading paper any time indoor or outdoors, my eyes always feel very comfortable, never get sore...happy with the tiny bit colour, sharpness sacrifices. I just cannot stand glossy screens and the all sorts of reflections on it, plus its basically unusable outdoors.
I think it largely depends on which brand you like or particularly dislike. And then just one of the devices has a trackpoint. As much as I'd like to experience MacOS (being a Linux user), I feel reluctant because of all that marketing BS and "closed shop" attitude (if that makes sense).
Thank you mate, yes a great day thanks, we actually have decent weather here in the UK at the moment so I am making the most of it! Hope you are having a good day too :)
The M1 MacBook Air is great for casual web browsing and sync with your IPhone if you own one. Not great for any professional work. At best with 16GB of RAM, ok. The X1 Carbon Gen 9 is great for financial work and programming with 16GB of RAM, and you can buy the lower level SSD and upgrade it yourself for cheap. Like a 256GB of SSD and buy 1TB of SSD on Amazon for $99. To me the X1 Carbon Gen 9 wins if you are not doing digital art work.
I never understood why people keep the Intel/AMD stickers on their laptops. They look tacky and they're basically advertisements. I recently switched from a Thinkpad E14 to a MacBook Air M1. While I loved the Thinkpad, this MacBook is on another level.
can't stop thinking about your eGPU logic: egpu.io/forums/mac-setup/pcie-slot-dgpu-vs-thunderbolt-3-egpu-internal-display-test/ Please don't give such advice to people in future. If possible edit this video and re-upload. These cute viewers are not IT experts. Most of them are kids. They will waste their money on eGPUs and silicon shortage is already real. Don't waste computing power
the m1 performance is amazing but you cannot do nothing with it except internet browsing and final cut or similars which I don't care about. after 20y using only macs I had enough from this silicon shit, sold it for X1. no x86 virtualization many apps run under rosette still. I needed to compile many things that I like to use. enough is enough apple and I hate windows so probely will run arch at some point.at 2006 they moved to intel (Steve jobs your are missed), we run rosetta than with more easy than today.
Thinkpad X1 + macOS is the best solution. That's I always do. (PS: I choose 500nits X1). besides I don't like the cool metal if I put my hands on keyboard. If anything I wish from X1 is fanless 🙂
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I think the MacBooks battery life is a huge selling point, but what ultimately convinced me to get a ThinkPad was the fact that I could just open it for cleaning and changing the battery myself. Can't stand getting pushed to buy a whole new PC because of avoidable obsolescence.
TBH even tho im for Windows team, this is pretty much dumb reason.. holding something against the system that you have to do once every two years or so doesn't seem like good argument :D
@@jgvbadv the cost of owning a MacBook is really high when basic maintenance requires you to take it to a specialized store
@@brookswashere3400 I'm not sure what maintenance you a re talking about.. back cover comes easily off and you can blow the dust yourself, other than that i'm not sure what would one consider maintenance
@@jgvbadv battery replacement or a storage upgrade is basic maintenance
@@jgvbadv 7yrs old macbook air still has 8hrs.
Proper review, and even has captions? Subbed.
Thanks so much 😀
After having used MacBooks for years, I switched to a Thinkpad x1c 6 several years, and I cannot be more satisfied.
Really enjoy these reviews. No beating around the bush, just diving straight in with a pretty straightforward and structured video. Keep this going, you have a great formula
Thanks Scott, I really enjoy making these comparisons so your feedback is much appreciated
...when Gordon Ramsay does a laptop review.
an excellent one, I might add.
Haha I will take that as a compliment and try not to swear 😂
huh
thanks for such comprehensive review! very important for viewers who are looking for more technical reviews
Thanks, I am glad it was helpful :)
I didn't understand why the MBP M1 booted up too slow in this video. My MacBook M1 Air boots up nearly fast as Lenovo X1. Mine is the 16 / 256 GB version.
Mine is only 8gb but I wouldn’t have thought that would make much difference. I tested a few times and mine always boots this speed. I don’t even have a lot of start up tasks or anything to slow it down 😢
I can’t justify how much more that Lenovo costs. It’s so expensive and doesn’t give nearly that much more performance over the Mac.
You are so completely right. I think windows manufacturers are going to have to start lowering prices to become competitive against apple, that is something I never thought I would hear myself saying!!
I have never dropped my laptops but when it did, it completely damaged my thinkpad. So for the first time, I switched to MacBook.
great review. If i am right, the X1 can also charge via type-c port so you can be more flexible on the charger as well
you are right, it certainly can
you can charge MBP using the USBC ports too
Great review. I own both the M1 MBP and the X1 Carbon. Both are beautiful machines, very comfortable to use, lovely screens, trackpads and keyboards, both best in class, but the M1 is truly in a different league when it comes to performance and battery life. CPU performance is equivalent to a desktop Core i7 9700K that I have in my desktop gaming PC, which is crazy. Anyone getting either of these machines would be very happy, I think.
Greatest review ever! Many thanks to the author!
Thank you, that’s very kind of you to say
Thank you for noticing us.
Sincerely,
~ A Linux User
Is there a review of thinkpads vs MacBook being dropped? You mentioned MacBook Pro shattering into pieces. My x1 carbon fell from my bed and destroyed power section on the side which I was told would cost me nearly $200 to repair. Repair person told me that it could even cost more if motherboard was affected. This is my only hesitancy of sticking with thinkpads which I have used for decades. I only dropped thinkpad once and it’s completely unusable, also chipping a section of the laptop.
Granted, it fell on the power side, it’s weakest part, but still it damaged the power Area to the point that it no longer turns on.
Underrated channel. That’s how you do a review without directly influencing the purchasing decision of viewer. He gave a use case for both machines. Thank you!
Thank you for the kind words
you do get irony
@@MashITTech you did a great review. Thank you
It's because he is British, young sir, not an American, which is to say he has some level of intelligence instead of blindly creaming himself all over the camera every time Apple farts. -Ivan Miochic, with love from Russia 💙
agree
I don't know how Lenovo could create the best keyboard in the laptop, and Apple create the best trackpad in laptop, if they combined, that would be insane.
is there any foreign company ducking copyright laws and putting both of these into a single shell? I'd buy
@@andrewferguson6901 dont push chinese, we will even put LG screen and sony speaker to it
@@hanyaimantanpabuktinyata8541 I'm pushing. Do it. I'll buy
Imagine the all new iThink
@@Ernest-ATX 😂👍
Great review!!! I own both the M1 MacBook Air and the X1 Carbon and wow I have to agree with EVERYTHING you said and it's rare that I agree 100% with a reviewers assessment. I too prefer the X1 Carbon for all the reasons you listed (ports and ability to upgrade the SSD is a big advantage). Re: price differential, Lenovo runs lots of sales you just have to be vigilant and patient and you'll find that you can get the X1 Carbon at significant discounts (e.g., $300-400 off on a good sale).
Hi Jet Martin, thanks for the kind words. And yes, good point on the discounts 👍
You make a good point here. I've found killer deals on mine. I even have a Lenovo P15 Gen 2 that I paid $1,229 for and it came with 32 GB and 1TB. Easy to upgrade and maintain. You can easily find certified refurbished deals online or even on Ebay with warranty intact. Great way to save.
It's the beginning of 2023 and I just bought a X1 gen 9 for $1500 CAD ( $1100 usd) directly from Lenovo. Worth the wait for this beautiful machine.
got it at -1200 bucks with easter + student discount
Like you mention the x1 you can put egpu with the latest graphics cards and turn it into a powerful desktop..
It's just easier to get a laptop with a discrete gpu then and call it a day. Or a x13 flow.
That great keyboard in ThinkPad x1 .. I love coding on that fast enough think pad. Plus you have think pad doc station.. just doc and use your accessories awesome.. windows hello saves me from entering that 16 character length password 😀
After my windows 10 got a blue screen and seing the absolute complexe mess of CMD commands and all that shit...i am now a Mac OS peeson,my next laptop will definitely be the M2 macbook...fuck windows
Facts 💯
Great comprehensive review as always! Both great laptops and I agree with your conclusion for general purpose use you just can't beat the solid Apple package and that CPU is just on another level but like you I would probably opt for the Thinkpad as I use Linux.
Thank you mate, glad you enjoyed it. I plan on installing linux on the carbon tomorrow, hopefully I can get it all up and running, I haven't used linux for a few years
YAY!!! This is the Review we have been waiting for. Two, of the BEST, Cutting Edge machines compared head to head !!! REAL Comparisons that people can use👌👌👌👍👍👍
Haha thanks mate, I hope you enjoy it
@@MashITTech The way you explain the details in any of your reviews are clear, precise and through 👌
Is there anything really cutting edge on the X1? For this generation they've only put in a new display.
@@vivenreddy Theres not a lot you can change when you're already rocking top specs in every way. Both these machines are art.
I was close to getting an X1 extreme, but due to delays and the M1's fanfare, ending up with the M1. I have to note, the M1 isn't just for casual users; I'm a developer and running an IDE, browser w/devtools, VM (w/some youtube in the background) it doesn't break a sweat. I push it when constantly running e2e tests though. I envy the Thinkpad's ports though, and like you, prefer the look. Also, not everything is compatible with the ARM64, and Windows is still ubiquitous in the business world.
Hey man did you get the 16gb modell ? I imagine it's the best for programming
@@PsycosisIncarnated Yeah, went with the 16GB (I was afraid 16GB wasn't enough but the M1's memory management makes it very fast). Many people really liked the Air, but I occasionally need the MBP fans to kick on when running heavier workloads. This M1 remains one of the best deals unless you need additional power/ports of the new Pro/Max models.
@@Joel-yp4yt im getting into eng and do u think i should get thw m1 air or an old x1 carbon for half the price, gonna learn start coding so compatibility is really going to be imp to me
@@Sahilwanders I can only speak for web dev, but using mac or linux is probably best since they're unix-based and most docs/tutorials use unix commands - sounds like a small benefit but when you're learning, having to look for equivalent windows commands gets tedious (I started learning on windows)
If you want to save money, you can try using x1 with linux or wsl, but mac is probably easiest to jump in and use out of the box. I'm still using the original m1 and no problems at all. I've also seen videos where the m1 air outperforms top-end intel macs with some video editing tasks and although I can't speak from experience, it's quite impressive
Also, good luck on your journey! If you can afford an extra wide monitor (or at least a cheap regular one) it is a huge productivity-booster when coding.
The real issue with the windows laptop is at the time of buying, they work and perform the best. After 5 years of use, they barely perform. But the MacBook will be serving the same as years go by. You will see real degradation in MacBook only after 8 years or later.
Simply not a good review. I hope people don't get fooled by this type of review. But if this fools you, you are a fool.
tell me why it is not a good review please?
answer his question, don't be shy
After watching your video i can say there's still a hope a for windows laptops. That's a good relief
I can only share your opinion, I am using Macbooks since years, but I started from IBM T20 series thru many T series then, and X series and this what I can say is I spent a lot of money in last 10 years on Macbooks .... few days back I have purchased used X280 ... and I am so fuc.... impressed it cost bout 150 EURos and I am doing things I did on my MCB which cost me about 2500 EUR .... it is insane, thanks to Kali Linux (: the old love is still in me to IBM/Lenovo T/X series they are making amazing laptops still. I just wondered to buy a new MBP 14 M3 but after this experience with X280 Lenovo I am wondering to buy a X1 Carbon ..... really, I have purchased Macbooks because of amazing OS not equipment but super safe fast OS but in terms of hardware in my opinion MBP is a lot overpriced, payng 2,5-5K euros for laptop is insane .....
Great video, ThinkPad runs Linux so it's the winner for me
Absolutely why I went with the X1 Carbon
Yep. Me too. Just playing around with Linux atm
That's the reason why I'm watching this video
me as well
coder guy
Am a new subscriber and all i can say is that your reviews are really good.Very informative.Thank you
Thank you for the kind words
that was *great* and *fair* review. thanks.
I absolutely abhor trackpads and always have, so I’m buying a Thinkpad until the bitter end. Once you go into the track point settings and adjust the sensitivity up, you can whisk the pointer around the screen with very little input and you never need to move your fingers away from the front row keys.
thanks for the review/comparison between both laptops. i bought a refurbished thinkpad carbon x1 gen6 2018 and set it up and acclimated immediately to it and i dont miss the macbook pro 2016 at all. in fact, x1 gen6 has more functionality and can customize much better than the macbook pro. the only thing the macbook pro is tops is with the batter power versus the refurbished one. im sold on the gen 6 just by being able to replace the battery. the last time you were able to do so on the macbook pro was in 2008.
X1 carbon ... I will chose X1 any day over Apple.
The x1 is almost thrice as expensive and is slower
Bro, you deserve a thundering applaud 👏. Subscribed. Hope you make more contents like this.
Thank you mate. I do plan on making more comparison videos as I really enjoy making them as long as people want to watch them :)
I purchased the X1 carbon gen 9 because of the keyboard, look, and software compatibility for business use. I also like the retro look as I learned on an IBM machine. In 2012 I purchased the MacBook Pro and Ike enjoyed it because it just worked. The only issue I found was I the business community generally uses windows applications. I use Microsoft office at work and the software is different on the mac. I still prefer Apple but found the price too high and they don’t have deep discounts like Lenovo. I don’t like that the new laptops are eliminating ports so I would like to find a good port extender. What do you recommend? I dislike cords and attachments. I did purchase an external DVD burner.
Excellent review, very unbiased, I just love Lenovo but this review is exactly what I was waiting for for a long time
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it 👍
Oh god your videos make me wanna buy a Thinkpad!
Haha sorry
I will choose the Thinkpad for productivity and durability, but Macbook Pro for entertainment.
Nice comparison! I use both a MacBookPro and a Lenovo laptop (T560) and for me I prefer the matte screen. But what almost always is forgotten.. With a Mac you can start right away after unboxing, no need to pay extra for an office suite.. It is included in the operating system. (I don't want to go in discussion if a virus scanner is neccesary ...)
Another point is the cooperative working with other Apple products; copy on one device and paste it on the other (Apple)device, airdrop etc.
Excellent review.
Just a $200 difference at 16gb.
Fastest cpu gpu. Other than amd and intel 8 cores cpus and dedicated gpus best trackpad sharper screen better battery all metal apple.
Limited app and os selection.
Great base price quiet and cool with the iphone chip.
Faster on battery clearer speakers.
Durability repairability upgradeability ssd battery wan card ports usba hdmi thunderbolt 4 not three egpu multi monitor resistant keys face id with privacy shutter louder speakers keyboard soft touch tons of apps and linux hackintosh hotter and louder although not really hot and loud lises some performance unplugged for a four core it actually us almost as fast as the m1 in single core and about 25 percent slower in multi plugged in that is.
Games games games.
The reason why I buy MacBook is always not the price, performance, or appearance, but the OS.
Yes, for some the OS is the most important aspect. I use Mac, Windows and Linux so I can use pretty much any machine
@@MashITTech Yes. But most people only have one or two machines, also they will only choose one kind of OS. For me, if I have to use a non-apple machine, like Thinkpad or XPS, I will choose to install the Ubuntu or CentOS. Because I can not leave terminal. Now windows has terminal, and linux subsystem, but it is still not as convenient as the original linux. The only reason I have to use Windows is Microsoft Office.
@@MashITTech But we have to admit that not every one needs terminal and programming, but most people needs MS office. Also, windows devices have more choices, and the Apple hardwares are much more expensive.
You can install macOS in the Thinkpad
I prefer the air (own both) , but I can't run VS in a VM on the arm chip (with acceptable performance) so I use the x1 most of the time. The lack of a good windows environment on the M1 macs is going to be a problem for devs.
Side-by-Side Comparison!! You did an amazing job, thank you for doing these and I hope you'll continue this style.
Not that words don't matter, but it's more objective and trustworthy when a reviewer actually presents the evidence of what they're claiming about the devices being reviewed :D
On a side note, most people don't seem to understand, that the M1 still has *BETTER PERFORMANCE UNPLUGGED* than the best Ryzen chips, which is where it matters most.
Running heavy-duty tasks on MacBooks on battery without losing both Battery Life or Performance too much, has always been a huge benefit of Apple laptops, even when they were Intel.
Thank you mate, I really enjoy making these so plan to do more. Do you think I covered everything? There is so much to try and cover and I really could have added another 15 minutes!
@@MashITTech I suspect majority will probably prefer shorter content, which is why many older tech channels (ie. MobileTechReview) have simplified and reduced their content, to get more people to watch. Personally I absolutely prefer longer content with timestamps, because they're the most helpful when I'm trying to learn something new and interesting, or actually interested in buying a product (ie. JarrodTech and Techtesters)
You're review style reminds me a lot of LTT's reviews, which I surprisingly found to be of the most useful even though that's not the main focus of their channel.
Linus does a good job of easily explaining useful things from a potential user's perspective than other reviewers, who just test benchmarks and describe the hardware that's there, which many written reviews are better at doing.
I LOVE your presentation and content, but sadly it may not be the most popular style to "get the views", since a lot of tech-review audience are tech-addicted enthusiasts who watch for "fun", rather than potential-consumers who are genuinely curious and looking to buy.
Anyways, I think you're fantastic just the way you're doing right now! 👍
Thank you mate, I appreciate that. To be honest, I cate less about popularity and more about doing what I enjoy which is delving right into these laptops. As long as I can make enough money to keep buying new laptops I am happy.
It is good to know there are people out there still want the in depth content and I think I would struggle to make a 5-10 minute review like Dave2d anyway.
I just bought an X1 gen 4 from a college surplus store. It was sold as scrap for $10. It has an 7 with 8gb ram, no ssd, and a 1440 display. I can't find what they thought was wrong with it, it works great. I'm all in with the ssd and charger for under $50
The Camera and Microphone on the X1 Carbon is a Shame. Unfortunately it has never been more important than now.
Totally agree!
The best laptops reviews around TH-cam. I love your channel even more now that I have bought my new brand X1 Carbon gen 9.
Thank you so much for the kind words
I own both of these laptops. Both are nice. The m1 is usually laying around the house living room or kitchen and I use it to surf the web, emails, research, plug it into the TV and watch movies or Netflix and edit photos on it. The ThinkPad is in my bag or desk. And I do my work from it, and run my business with it. There is a banking program I need to use for business and it doesn't even open or run on the mac. So each have thier use.
You kinda have to think of it this way / Lenovo is like the company Moen - you buy it once and buy it for life - where apple struggles is life expediency of its circuit boards and if it cant be fixed - you are Fubard - it seems to me the reliability of apple is going down where apple just tosses it in the garbage and says too bad - we wont learn what and why it failed but we'll sell ya a new one...
I'm never ever going to buy any of these laptops, but for some reason I enjoy your content. Subscribed 😇
haha thanks very much
I'd love a MacBook, but I'm in the same camp as Linus Torvalds - they don't run or even support Linux, so... I'm sorry Apple, that's a loss on your side again...
Excellent presentation, so thanks for posting. I'm an Apple guy since 1983, but I would still choose the Lenovo over the M1 MacBook Pro.
You’ll change your mind after the M1X 14in MacBook Pro comes out later this year absolute beast of a machine
@@DannyJWald kindly elaborate
If the Lenovo had a Ryzen 5800u it would smoke the M1 in CPU performance. But I don't think there are any laptop using that chip yet. AMD struggles a lot with supplying chips to customers wich is the reason why many brands still choose for intel over AMD.
the X13 gen 2 might just do it when it is released! As soon as it is available I will order it and test 👍
ThinkPad X1 Carbon was an easy choice for me absolutely love the laptop especially for that all black case, keyboard, and compatibility. They are both great machines though for sure.
Yep, me too. Just love that old school Thinkpad look plus the ports....
@@MashITTech Definitely, having a few ports including USB-A is a must.
Well this only made it so much harder to decide haha
Haha sorry
You know you can buy a USB dongle for allowing multiple screens and extra ports. Also Linux will be officially supported on the M1 soon. The reason to get a carbon is if you need Windows and Intel..
Yea but its not the same performance and there are other issues with refresh rate etc.
Those go away with true thunderbolt 4 and a seperate hdmi in top or that and usba and upgradeable by the owner ssd wan and battery.
If you need osx or their recent m1 bug sur apps.
Macbook is the answer if not fir almist everything the thinkpad is just as fast except video rendering as apple has included deciders fir almost every format.
Still the four core intel behaves more like a six core m1 so you are getting about 80 percent if the performance. And gaining a ton of features.
Screen is not as sharp but its bugger with smaller bezels.
Its like a give and take i can see how someone would live either of them.
Although base model price if the macbook are a steal until you add ram and storage.
For an electronic engineer, Thinkpad all the way!
The problem with m1 is its compatibility, as an engineering student, a lot of professional apps won’t run on M1. What a shame
Oh that is a shame, is that because they are not on Mac OS or do they just not work with the m1 chips?
@@MashITTech Both
Sounds boring, but I’d take the $999 MacBook Air over a $1500 windows machine. My main reason though is I’m happily tied into apple already. The M1 Air is kinda a thing of beauty.
Facts
I kinnd agree with u. Would love to pick the pro but TouchPad made me not.
Thinkpad is just too ugly for me
God, I just want them both. The mac because it’s beautiful, and the thinkpad for linux. I am wondering if Apple going forward will be more or less developer friendly. If they ported all GNU tools (like valgrind) and opened themselves up to linux I think they would kill it.
Thats my issue. I have the Mac Book pro M1, but some of my classes require us to run Windows 10 on VM's. So, I might just have to get an X1.
I'm thinking of getting a Thinkpad X1 Carbon with Linux on it. Hopefully things like audio quality are the same as Windows, as Lenovo sells them with Linux. Do you think there will be any firmware problems with Linux? I'm also thinking about pursuing a career in IT.
I have been using ThinkPad x380 yoga for 3 years. It's amazing. As you mentioned, it has one of the best keyboards around. Durability is another major advantage of thinkpad.
Are the fans loud?
@@EA-ln3uh No. They are very quiet which is one of the positives of this laptop. Very rarely you may here a mild sound.
I have a thinkpad and I am using the trackpoint all the time, but not with the standard cap, try "soft rim" , you will love it.
Thanks mate, I will give one a try. I am going to push myself to actually use it (I may disable the touchpad for a bit to force it as I naturally move to the touchpad)
Yeah, but you have to custom order that from some where or 3d print one. I find that the standard track point on my X1 Nano is quite a lot nicer on the fingers. I imagine it is a similar mechanism (3mm track point) on the Carbon Gen 9. Even still, I am using a "soft rim one" I rarely use the trackpad. Only on occasion.
With the battery life, low heat, better screen, and fast chip honestly its Macbook Pro for me. Even though throwing Manjaro on the thinkpad would probably be amazing I doubt it will be as good as Mac for what I do. I want to want the Carbon so bad but I just can't.
Hi Cody, yeah it is always a tough decision. I really love the m1 macbook and definitely recommend it to most especially casual users, but for me, I have to vote with the ports and matte screen. Now if the rumoured macbook pro 14" comes with m1x and ports then even I may have to switch to a macbook
One question, are you Gordon Ramsay?
Haha I wish I could cook like that!
Without doubt, this is the best review I've seen. Thanks for your hard work on this mate- very helpful to make a decision.
Thank you mate, glad to be able to help 👍
Great review. But in the end it all boils down to one's OS preference. However superior Macbook Pro is or would be - MacOS is just not my cup of tea - I will still stick to maybe somehow inferior Windows laptops. So for me the hardware comparison between these two are a little bit pointless, sorry. Still watched it till the very end. lol
Thanks Denis, you are of course right! I am lucky enough to enjoy mac, Windows and Linux so I am able to use what ever decide is best. My preference is still Windows though if I have a choice
I have a Macbook Pro M1 and it gets very loud and hot when doing CPU intensive tasks, like exporting photos with Lightroom. It’s way louder than my Lenovo T470s when doing the same task.
wow really! the fan just never seems to spin up on mine unless I am exporting a long video
Thanks, MacBook looks better
I'd enjoy hearing your opinion on the 2021 LG gram series. I'm still undecided between the x1 nano, x1 carbon gen 9, and the LG gram. I haven't seen anything else that is interesting to me. I'm not really in the market for a Mac.
I have never tested an LG gram! I really should get one in, let me take a look :)
The Macbook with the M1 is a stellar computer. It would be "the" laptop to own if it weren't for being unable to run Windows on it in parallels or bootcamp or anything else. There's just too much business software needed in many scenarios (if not most) that is only available on Windows and/or that corporations choose vs. supporting use of MacOS. Personally, I think the weight is also excessive and the cases are too slippery (but that's due to the Apple preference of looks over everything else and therefore the single piece aluminum case. Good looking but a step back compared to the Lenovo materials.
Parallels is working-ish. You need to use the ARM version of windows and there is still some compatibility issues but its certainly getting there though I wouldn’t want to rely on it for business software. Fortunately most of the software I use works on windows on mac so I can pick based on preference on machine
Very much baised video - not recommended !!
Complete industry is crazy on M1 and you ??
Tell me why it is biased? I love both machines. You actually sound biased to M1
@@MashITTech rewatch ur video again !! Its totally on Lenovo side - A to Z - Top to Bottom
Reviewers’ biasness can be seen in 10 sec of any video which will not work for u on a longer run
@@smadeelibrahim it's quite literally a proven comparison. he gave it to apple on aspects such as trackpad, brightness, backlit keyboard, battery life, and general display. and no, the entire industry is not crazy about the macbook as the m1 is not compatible with many software which windows and linux can run. if you really came to this video crying if someone wasnt worshipping the macbook; youre the biased one. do some research and dont just go for the trends.
big difference between the speakers, the Apple sounded much better
the X1 is certainly louder but I think you are right the audio is clearer on the mbp. I do wish they could have for the mbp16 speakers in it though!!!
What do I think? Hmmm that’s a tough one. I haven’t used either, but it’s soon time to upgrade. I’m a programming student, so it’s either Linux or MacOS for me, never Windows. I currently run a thinkpad x200 with arch or my 2014 13 inch macbook pro. Max’s generally suck at Linux. Even my 2014 mb pro is so damn good, so quiet and fast it would be hard to not upgrade to M-series. That being said, I do prefer being able to “easily” use any Linux distro so that works in favor of the thinkpads. If they made a black macbook it would be game over. For now I will just keep watching these vids and wait to decide once my old macbook dies, if it does.
they do have the midnight blue m2 MacBook Air! I have one and it looks stunning. I do prefer windows/linux over MacOS but I can't deny they make great machines
Aren’t we all just waiting for a ryzen X1?
Haha maybe one day. The x13 gen 2 with Ryzen could be the winner
Never happening as the X1 line is a collaboration between Intel and Lenovo.
However Intel is pretty good now, after AMD knocked them out. Atleast in low power cpus.
great review, u balance it greatly and pick the right consumer for both devices on top of that.
Thank a lot :)
just purchased a x1 carbon gen 9, look forward to receiving it soon
Hope you enjoy it
I still can't get over the fact that Lenovo didn't put a 2K screen in the X1C gen9, it's so below the average in this price category. at FHD+ resolution x1c9 is not only just overpriced but more importantly, that resolution (or rather lack of) will be a direct impact on user experience. IF it had a 2K screen option I'd probably already have purchased it.
Personally I'm really interested for a comparison between the X1C and the upcoming new X13. I feel like the X13 will be a more sensible product. It's either X1 nano to go full out portable, or X13 for best functionality. The X1C really feels oddly positioned, at least to me personally.
I will be ordering the x13 gen 2 ryzen as soon as it is released in the U.K. 👍
Buying an x86 chip in 2021 is a huge mistake, let alone an Intel crap, unless you’re *absolutely and ugently* in need. The industry will adjust to ARM in no time and you’ll be left with old tech, people don’t want to spend time and resources to support.
Both Intel and AMD want to get rid of their old tech x86 chips to make the most profit off of them before switching; and these laptop and PC manufacturers have opportunuty to buy those for low price. I don’t accept that and if those companies will not come up with something to compete with M1 and insist on making x86 instead, I’ll switch to Mac for the first time in my life and never look back.
The ARM had a long time coming, yet neither AMD, nor Intel have done anything about that. Now Apple will dominate the laptop market with M series, just like they do in smartphone market with A chips. They have that desktop class chip on a fucking tablet with a 1600 nit high res HDR screen; yet Lenovo is selling that crap with i7 for £1600.
Nvidia will come up with ARM CPU’s and/or SoC’s and they will dominate and compete with Apple in this market while Intel and AMD trying to figure out what went wrong. They are already making great GPU’s and I’m glad they found this empty spot in the market. I guess they are sick and tired of the lack of innovation from AMD and Intel too. They don’t want to be dependent on Intel to sell their GPU’s anymore.
Hi Ekin, totally agree with you on a lot of your points and the m1 chip has been a real breath of fresh air but only because Apple have embraced it and optimised the OS and even succeeded in making emulation seamless. Look at the current arm situation in Windows! It is a real mess, then look at the surface pro x, also a mess. I think x86 will be here for a few years yet on Windows purely because Windows is such a popular platform and Ms are incapable of the sort of transition Apple can easily pull off.
Oh gawd man I totally agree with you and I can't wait for arm based external GPUs...jsut the lack of heat in my home PC build will be amazing for pushing the frames and performance on games even MORE
design aside, the MacBook Pro is pretty much unbeatable - that's from a Gen 4 and Gen 6 X1 Carbon owner - its even cheaper and I never thought we'd say that about an Apple product.
Hi Shaun, you are totally right! Never did I also think I would be saying that intel machines need to reduce their prices to match apple :)
@@MashITTech great review, keep up the good work👍🏻
I really wouldn't overstate the rugged part. As soon as the Chinese took over, quality steadily declined. The only notebook that ever died on me due to falling was an X250. Safely enclosed in a thick neoprene case, it fell on the floor from about 3' and greeted me with a broken screen backlight. Solid ThinkPads are a thing of the past really.
Oh wow, sorry to hear that. What a shame, obviously I cant afford to test the X1 carbon with a drop test but I had hoped with the build and testing they would still be pretty rugged :(
@@MashITTech Well, it is just anecdotal evidence, of course, but they used to build them a lot better. I'm not saying they're _worse_ in that department than everybody else, but not that special anymore, either.
I would honestly buy the ThinkPad cuz of the 16:10 aspect ratio and easy to repair
And also to flex with some spoiled kids
I don’t know about easy part But mine was too costly.
Very very very profession video. I personally prefer thinkpad considering it is still working after i dropped it on the aiport ground with a hug crack, plus a half of glass water spreaded on top of the keyboard.😂😂😂
Haha you really have put yours through the wars 😂 shows the mil spec tests are worthwhile 👍
Soldered storage is deal breaker. If your computer dead or won't boot, good luck you can't access your data or delete them
Totally agree and an ssd is likely to be the first thing to go wrong on a machine 😢
Would you recommend the M1 MacBook Air for business or finance student?
most definitely! they are amazing machines. The only slight issue is office for Mac isn't as comprehensive as windows
Thank you for sharing such balanced information. I hear reviews about the Lenovo NOT being designed for Content Creators - Do you find that to be true? vs. the Mac having better webcam quality, etc.
Great video! Love your comparisons. The gen 9 Just recently became more available in store in my area so I’m probably going to head to a Lenovo store and try it out.
Let me know what you think of it! I really love the machine. I just got an X1 extreme into the office so I might compare those two if people are interested. The X1 extreme looks a little dated but has a lot of power so might be an interesting comparison
@@MashITTech yeah I think it would be an interesting comparison. Especially if the graphics upgrade to the extreme is worth it.
@@MashITTech I went into the Lenovo store and ended up buying the carbon! It was between this and the nano . Brought it home just a couple of hours ago. It was the ports and speakers that made the difference for me. It’s very nice. I feel I will really enjoy this one. It’s the LTE model as well 👍.
This comparison is redundant for a Linux user (and a Mac user).
the only channel which goes in depth review... love it! hopefully this will make me decide which to get for work laptop!
Thank you for the kind words, if you need any advice just ask 👍
Lemovo thinkpad series is really amazing
I am the user of Lenovo from ages, again in IT ! Terrible performance nd ages like anything. On the other hand even 10 years old Mac are working seamless for heavy use. That is wht my experience is
Very nice review. I ordered the thinkpad with WWAN (no brainer, Mac doesn’t have this on their laptops)
Thank you :)
Why is the WWAN preferable ofter a cellphone wifi hotspot?
@@Amal-kp8qb Better speeds and more usability. Hotspot would require permanent proximity of your phone near the laptop.
@@vardanrathi7777 I don’t recall ever being in a situation without my phone near my laptop but I digress
The display quality difference is massive. Rich accurate colors vs dull ones.
Mac is better screen isn't it
Its matte vs glossy, I personally like X1's matte screen so much, its like reading paper any time indoor or outdoors, my eyes always feel very comfortable, never get sore...happy with the tiny bit colour, sharpness sacrifices. I just cannot stand glossy screens and the all sorts of reflections on it, plus its basically unusable outdoors.
I think it largely depends on which brand you like or particularly dislike. And then just one of the devices has a trackpoint. As much as I'd like to experience MacOS (being a Linux user), I feel reluctant because of all that marketing BS and "closed shop" attitude (if that makes sense).
You can install Linux on X1 and virtualise anything.
Great vid 😊 I hope youre having a good day!
Thank you mate, yes a great day thanks, we actually have decent weather here in the UK at the moment so I am making the most of it! Hope you are having a good day too :)
The M1 MacBook Air is great for casual web browsing and sync with your IPhone if you own one. Not great for any professional work. At best with 16GB of RAM, ok.
The X1 Carbon Gen 9 is great for financial work and programming with 16GB of RAM, and you can buy the lower level SSD and upgrade it yourself for cheap. Like a 256GB of SSD and buy 1TB of SSD on Amazon for $99. To me the X1 Carbon Gen 9 wins if you are not doing digital art work.
I never understood why people keep the Intel/AMD stickers on their laptops. They look tacky and they're basically advertisements. I recently switched from a Thinkpad E14 to a MacBook Air M1. While I loved the Thinkpad, this MacBook is on another level.
can't stop thinking about your eGPU logic: egpu.io/forums/mac-setup/pcie-slot-dgpu-vs-thunderbolt-3-egpu-internal-display-test/
Please don't give such advice to people in future. If possible edit this video and re-upload. These cute viewers are not IT experts. Most of them are kids. They will waste their money on eGPUs and silicon shortage is already real. Don't waste computing power
the m1 performance is amazing but you cannot do nothing with it except internet browsing and final cut or similars which I don't care about. after 20y using only macs I had enough from this silicon shit, sold it for X1. no x86 virtualization many apps run under rosette still. I needed to compile many things that I like to use. enough is enough apple and I hate windows so probely will run arch at some point.at 2006 they moved to intel (Steve jobs your are missed), we run rosetta than with more easy than today.
Thinkpad trackpad is the worst ever please don't compare it with mac
Thinkpad X1 + macOS is the best solution. That's I always do. (PS: I choose 500nits X1). besides I don't like the cool metal if I put my hands on keyboard. If anything I wish from X1 is fanless 🙂