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Can I say you are an amazing individual I could listen to your voice all day very ASMR lol your knowledge is amazing your content is TV standard keep up the amazing work Captain your a credit to your profession 😊
I understand that you need ads on these videos but some of them appear at very disruptive places which spoil the fantastic narrative. It’s a real shame.
The graphics, narration and content are so professionally done that at this point, this is like a full fledged documentary and not just the informed viewpoint of a full time pilot. Amazing!
@@MentourPilotI'm a huge fan of yours, and I agree with everything that person said. I think I've binge watched practically all of your videos. I also watch 74 gear with Kelsey Hughes. I watched the one that you both made once. You Rock!
I've been an airline captain for 37 consecutive years. Have in excess of 27,000 hrs PIC, on 777, 767, 737, A320, 727 and ATR. I'm still learning, been lucky on my career so far, without any serious trouble to date. I must say this channel's content is the most precious ever, it's a valuable learning tool. My sincere compliments to Mentour Pilot!
What's up with company procedures?? So let's say the captain is incapacitated by experiencing a heart attack and is completely unable to fly the plane, will the 1st officer still not take control because the captain did not have the opportunity to say "your control" to the 1st officer before he passed out? This is getting scary now.
@@myoutuber77there are company procedures for a clear pilot incapacitation, but the pilot was still calling things out and doing things. During a tricky maneuver like they were doing, the copilot would have had a hard time realizing the pilot was completely lost in the precious few seconds where he could have made a difference
@@myoutuber77Airlines clearly need your vast expertise in order to fix these problems. You need to contact them all right away and tell them you can fix all of this for the future.
Seriously, Dubai may have countless human rights violations and slave labor for a bunch of absurd rich madmens ego projects but the pilots are damn good
It's hard to have much faith in any policy made in Dubai haha..even ignoring the slave labor, dictatorship & corner cutting but all their urban planning is comically bad, the palm fronts are sinking and the Burj doesn't even have indoor plumbing and needs poop trucks hahah. It's a mix of morally bankrupt plutocrats and comically bad design and planning
I am a professional pilot since many years. My friend, I have to say that I never saw a crash analysis performed that well. Amazing combination of professional explanation and background information. Usually my wife falls asleep when we start watching a movie together, but putting your video on the TV she watched it with me till the end and showed big interest. Subscribing your channel was the least I could do to demonstrate my appreciation. Thank you!
Would it not be safer just to get rid of human pilots and have fully automated flights? Air travel will become a lot safer when the industry moves away from using humans as pilots People will still die. But far less people will die with computer pilots rather than human pilots
@@mortgageapprovals8933 Tbh.. but then in situations like this it wouldnt be possivle or very hard at least. Cause things might pop up that the machine cannot solve or such
Oh wow... throughout almost the entire video, right up until you told us that the GPWS warnings were too late, I had been thinking that this was going to be one of those "near miss" incidents, where they went through some terrifying loss of control, but were able to pull through in the end. I hadn't ever heard of this accident before, and figured that if it had ended in a fatal crash, I'd have known about it already. That ending was such a gut punch. Just shows how quickly things can change in the cockpit.
Would it not be safer just to get rid of human pilots and have fully automated flights? Air travel will become a lot safer when the industry moves away from using humans as pilots People will still die. But far less people will die with computer pilots rather than human pilots
@@mortgageapprovals8933 Overall, commercial aviation is still the safest form of transport, so let's not throw a running system out of the window to try something totally new. But I honestly think that there is still too high of a mental load involved in operating a commercial airliner. Humans really excell as predictive, real-time controllers, withhin our limits. So, any system relying on our control has to assure either by design or by computer augumentation, that it stays within those limits. The most fundamental real-time criterion is the deadline. If the delay between input and control output is below the deadline, the control loop is closed. The more time reserve, the more reserve there is for some additional workload. However, once the delay is close to, or at the deadline, there is no reserve left. Once that happens, the control loop is open, the controller is not able to respond to the input, but will rather act undefined. "Staying in front of" or "Getting behind of" the aircraft are, at least in some sense, directly related to this real-time criterion. Once you are over the deadline, you are getting "behind". Control of a modern airliner should be further abstracted away to the bare basics (advanced avionics with very simple UI, which should still exercise the "stick-and-rudder-skills") to limit, or even better, manage mental load. Â HUD may not just display graphical elements, put on some lightweight, ~2030 AR glasses with a full FOV, and you have beautiful VFR conditions with overlayed atmospheric information with the worst IMC outside. While we don't want the pilots to be overwhelmed, they also shouldn't get bored. Let the pilots be skilled aviators, let the avionics do most of the rest, and let the system experts tune in via broadband LEO satellite link from a proper control room with full diagnostic access if issues of any sort are detected.
@mortgageapprovals8933 Is that true? I don't know if that's the solution. There are so many factors at play & crashes that have happened with the autopilot/computer systems playing a big role. Better technology will definitely be great at improving the autopilot systems, therefore saving lives, but I still think we are a long way until it is safer to not have humans as pilots completely.
As a young engineer that only just started her career in aviation, I must thank you and your team for your hard work explaining each and every incident. You cannot imagine how your content not only helps pilots but also other people who work in aviation. Thanks to your content, I’ve understood things more in depth and it brought a new meaning to my job as an aeronautics engineer and how much every detail can make a change. Keep up the good work! ❤
Congratulations on your career position as a aeronautics engineer, that is a blessing! I know you will prosper and bring tremendous amounts of talent to your work flow and work environment. God bless you.
Would it not be safer just to get rid of human pilots and have fully automated flights? Air travel will become a lot safer when the industry moves away from using humans as pilots People will still die. But far less people will die with computer pilots rather than human pilots
@@mortgageapprovals8933 computers are great at handling autonomous tasks, but they are not capable of managing situations outside of expected parameters the same way humans are. There are many examples on this channel where the computers fail to perform correctly due to things like incorrect data or run into software errors/bugs. Piloting is too involved and complex to be replaced by automated systems (at least for now), plus you really don’t want to be in a situation where those systems fail and there’s no humans on board to take control
As a private pilot SEP, I learn a lot from every single one of your videos. Thank you very much, Petter and team, for the excellent analysis of that terrible accident and for the realistic detailed presentation. Like I read in some comments, I also felt myself directly in that cockpit. So sad to see, that a relatively stable 2nd approach turned into maximum catastrophic constellation within only one minute. The pilot monitoring 1st officer certainly had good skills in flying and he might have been able to recover the aircraft out of the horrible status, caused by his captain. An important lesson for all 1st officers out there to speak up earlier, when things exceed obviously the given parameters, and to offer or to 'order' taking over controls. Greetings from Germany.
This accident and explanations of it from various sources have puzzled me for many years. But you explained it very well and clarified a lot of details, thanks for sharing.
A tragic story told with great understanding and empathy, as usual. As with many of these incidents, I was sitting on the edge of my seat hoping for a happy ending but slowly becoming aware it's a Swiss cheese scenario or someone being overwhelmed by a situation. Keep up the excellent work.
I have no knowledge or experience in anything aviation related but I stumbled into this rabbit hole and your videos are so good. The way you lay things out mean that I can follow along without any prior knowledge and I've actually learned quite a lot just in the few videos I've watched. It's fascinating, thank you for the effort you put into making these!
I am not an airplane pilot, but I learn so much from these tragedies. I always shed tears for the victims and families because it is terrible to lose a loved one. This channel teaches me to stay humble because it shows that even highly skilled people can be overwhelmed by mistakes. We are always trying to get better, and it's easy to get lost in the desire to explore new things.... This is where I learn the importance of practicing "the basics". So today I'm going to get the old Lego box out of the cupboard and start building our dream house again..
Ironically while covering these accidents, you're helping me rid me off my flight anxieties... seeing the brainpower that goes into this makes me feel safe.
Amazing quality on a step by step analysis of a sad story. Sitting comfortay in a late night, dark office with a warm coffee in my hands, actually not far from DXB, my heart breaks watching how quickly things can go from stabilized to a point of complete madness. I feel so sorry about the passengers and pilots, especially knowing if the co-pilot could have taken over the controls then they would have survived for quite sure. I just imagine that captain recognizing how deeply lost he is and saying: "it's your control".. may have had a different outcome. I honestly wish that they were all in a peaceful and lovely place now..
And at that point everyone aboard was accustomed to a last second go around so even that would have seemed relatively normal until the plane suddenly starts diving and rolling over.
Airline FO here and your videos are so good that I was clinching my hands and teeth so hard that by the end of the video I was sweating and with jaw pain. Incredible work my friend!
Running out of things i can say in praise for this channel, it really is of the highest quality by such a professional team and never fails to deliver. Thank you for your hard work Petter and keep up the amazing work!
@@MentourPilot sir I got a question. There have been multiple cases so far where the copilot could of saved the plane, but didn't. Why is that? Why don't they try and take over the flight controls?
@@pancak3because the pilot is often keen on staying in control either out of ego or panic - sometimes both. When both pilots attempt to control the aircraft, the net result is neutral aka nothing really results out of the copilot attempting to take control. The pilots likely believe they're more experienced and because of that, would rather navigate by themselves than defer that task to their junior.
Man, you surely deserve thanks and subscription. Accidentally landed on your channel and immediately got addicted. Your production level is getting better and better with every video.Lot of respect for all those hours you and your team put into these videos.
Air Traffic Controllers, Pilots, Cabin Crew, Nerds Like myself and many other people are hooked to this amazing stuff you are putting out there for us. It is miles ahead of even the best show national geographic used to air. I salute you sir. Keep up the good work.
As a flight data analyst, I'm learning so much from this channel. The more I analyze the flights and learn, the more I realize human factors play key roles in flight safety. Thanks for the video!
Would it not be safer just to get rid of human pilots and have fully automated flights? Air travel will become a lot safer when the industry moves away from using humans as pilots People will still die. But far less people will die with computer pilots rather than human pilots
Great job Petter, describing a sad accident that simply should NOT have happened. (I’m a retired 30k hour captain, with lots of time on both the 737-800 with it’s fabulous HUD, and other Boeings up to and including the 747-400.) It was a really sad, very disturbing story, showing how absolutely critical it is to stay ahead of the aeroplane. I wonder why he was so loathe to use Autopilot in such conditions.
Would it not be safer just to get rid of human pilots and have fully automated flights? Air travel will become a lot safer when the industry moves away from using humans as pilots People will still die. But far less people will die with computer pilots rather than human pilots
@@mortgageapprovals8933I’m not sure, if pilots land less often then the times when the autopilot has to disconnect automatically are going to become even harder for them with a lack of muscle memory. Probably leading to more accidents than there are now.
@@mortgageapprovals8933 If you’d ever sat on a jump seat on a busy sector you would realise that “self flying” aeroplanes are as far away as it’s possible to imagine. Manipulation of the controls (ie: actually flying the aeroplane) is just a very small fraction of what we manage in the cockpit. As the old saying goes: “flying is 99% boredom and 1% sheer terror” - though I’d personally never use the word terror, as I have always loved it when we get busy.
I have just discovered your channel. As an Air Crash Investigation “fan”, I was really impressed by your ability to keep the content interesting and technically accurate and detailed, with a fraction of National Geographic’s production means. Well done! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 I also like the fact that you cover more non-fatal accidents. The lessons learned are less painful to watch, being equally important for the betterment of the industry. Thank you! ✈️
it is extremely disconcerting how a pilot can be disorientated so quickly. Understandably this also confirms the different attitudes in control systems by Boing and Airbus, as Airbus wishes to make flying safer by more automation and Boing on the other hand believes the pilot has final input. It would be interesting to fly a simulator with these exact conditions using , for instance, an airbus A320 to find out if the automation protections would have kicked in and saved the aircraft. Extremely sad how such a professional crew were overcome by circumstances which eventually caused the wrong decisions to be made causing the aircraft to crash.
Both philosophies have their pros and cons but the ability to change the priority and even lock out the other pilot controls would have been useful here.
Accepted but we are discussing this particular incident and my question was under these circumstances would the different philosophies have made a difference. I believe that automation may be more dangerous than human error because the failure of a component may cause incorrect data which may contribute towards a catastrophe, therefore any automation should always be observed and corrected by human oversight!
@@MarcusWeinreich The irony is that in this particular accident, if the FO had been more assertive and decided to take the controls by force then he had an option that no Boeing pilot could ever have. The “pilot priority” button located on the Airbus side stick that’s the equivalent of the yoke/control column. With one button press and hold the FO could have locked the confused captain out of the controls and flown the aircraft to safety. Pressing and holding the button causes the Airbus to ignore all input made by the other pilot, in this case the captain. Of course the Airbus verbally announces this “right side priority” but short of physically assaulting the FO there’s nothing the captain could do. Instead of literally fighting the captain for control of the yoke since they’re linked, he could have just taken control. In a Boeing if the captain was pushing nose down and the FO is pulling nose up, whoever is physically stronger “wins” though as we see in this accident, nobody won. The additional irony is that Airbus also have a “flight envelope protection system” which means that up until the upset flight became too extreme, the captain could have simply let go of the controls and the Airbus would have automatically corrected and stabilised itself. And unless the autopilot was acting in a degraded mode, it wouldn’t have let the captain put any dangerous control movements to begin with. I sound like a total Airbus fan girl in this comment but it’s just how the automation and flight philosophy would have worked in this particular accident. There are of course other crashes which wouldn’t have happened to a Boeing. Like I said, neither are truly superior and like you, I believe the human pilot should have the final say over the computer. The human pilot should always have the option to disable the autopilot and fly manually, but that’s a debate for another day.
Strange how you are confirming the exact point I was trying to make, in other words would the Flight Envelope Protection System have prevented the pilot the pilot from making such a catastrophic error? The First Officer's input can , for all intents and purposes, be discounted because this aircraft went from stable flight to unrecoverable in less than a minute and during that time the effects of negative G forces would have made his actions negligible or hardly significant!@@mikoto7693
while I agree that it is definitely the captain who killed everyone, it must be noted that "being overwhelmed" is a loop that is really hard to get out of or even realize you are in it without proper training for that feeling
@@alpora7777 yea a got to admit now that was my first video from this channel after watching over 25 😅 i see that this really is something that happens because we are all humans, in the moment of hearing it doe anger just overwhelms any other thought
Have you ever been overwhelmed/overstimulated? In a state of disorientation and confusion where your brain tunnel-visions on one thing (in this case, on pushing a yoke in a particular direction), it's nothing to do with incompetence, ego or stupidity. It's literally just the human brain being whacky, it's just unfortunate and tragic when others' lives are lost because of it. But literally *anyone* can end up going through the mental fatigue to end up in such a state. There was a moment before the crash where he *did* come back and begin to pitch back up, but the sensory overload/mental overstimulation kicked back in and his attempts to override his panic failed. I don't actually blame the pilot here for any kind of malicious or inept action; we're all at risk of going into this sort of dissociative spiralling emotional state. Have some compassion for him as well, I'm sure in his right mind he never would have allowed this series of events to play out.
@@GrimFelArtI understand what you’re saying and I totally get it. But when you’re operating a plane with a bunch of people on it, you need to make sure you’re mentally prepared and not fatigues beforehand and if so idk there just needs to be more rules in place or precautions to make up for this. Peoples lives are at their hands
Your video quality, narration, and cinematics are amazing. You are also teaching future pilots about safety and how to recognise where they can go wrong. Thank you for your amazing videos.
It never ceases to amaze me how fast things can go terribly wrong when pilots loose situational awareness. I wish every car accident on the ground would be so meticulously analyzed and lead to mandatory recommendations, like in aviation. A lot of lives would be saved, even if the cost would probably be quite high. Thanks for another amazing video!
Such a disturbing event, I remember a flight some years ago, trying to land at LROP, thunderstoms and windshear warnings, after an hour in hold just diverted to LBWN. Not worth it, better lose 3-4 hours and cause an inconvience than losing so many lives. This channel is so informative for experienced pilots, new pilots and everyone else.
The intro of this video was quite intense and i like it. I heard about the FlyDubai 981 accident from a well known aviation documentary show a year ago. After watching this video, it really reminding me and understand how powerful spatial disorientation can be in aviation because it is one of the most common factor on some aviation accidents. Yes, I know somatogravic illusion a year ago from your Armavia Flight 967 video. I think this video is also one of my favorite now and i love it.
These episodes now blow any sort of Nat Geo type air incident documentaries, with all their overly dramatic 'entertainment' elements out of the water. Massive thanks to you Petter, and all of your superb team - so well explained, presented and executed. Patreon membership here I come 👍🙂
Simply awsome! 🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪!!! With total lack of background, experience, education, knowledge (or honestly no particular interest in aviation what so ever!) I'm just blown away by you and your team's ability to create content that are both professional, insightful, formal, strict, respectful yet thrilling, suspenceful and highly, highly entertaining! Only channel on YT that still gets a big "YES!!!" when a new video is out! //Best wishes from Sweden! 🇸🇪
As a race driver, the closest thing that happens to us is instantly losing all grip in a 130mph bend learning too late your engine was puking oil onto your tires, but we’re not @ 35k feet…
Fun fact: Depending on the race governing body and class, your car very probably can go faster than the free fall velocity of a human that has their arms and legs spread.
@@littlegrabbiZZ9PZA A human’s terminal velocity is only 120mph + obviously far less when you’re spread out. So, yeah, basically any race series is beating free fall velocity.
@@postersm7141For you, yes. Unless you’re on a track + have the new gen of suit w/airbags which make severe injury unlikely, crashing is pretty unforgiving. For race cars, we’re nigh on invulnerable with modern safety gear. Other than open wheel circle track racing, I laugh at all the people who think modern drivers are like gladiators taking major risks. No, those days were mostly over by the 1990s and are completely gone now.
Such a good channel, being a non aviator I've learnt so much and gathered a real appreciation for the complexity involved with commercial pilots work load. My father was a fighter pilot who also owned a share in a single prop aeroplane, which I had the opportunity to watch my father fly. While sat in the co-pilots seat. This channel reminds me of the education my father started and now this channel is continuing. Unfortunately my health would never permit me a licence of my own but I congratulate this channel for how it communicates and explains .
Makes you wish there was an emergency button that maintained pitch at horizon and constant speed. That poor FO knew what needed to be done, and your explanation really shows how easy it is to make mistakes. I still remember my MSFS trim settings being opposite of what I thought they should be and freaked out when my trim settings put me in a dive and I continued adding more trim to compensate, but as it was the opposite of what I thought the trim settings should be I just nose dived straight into the ground. Disorientation sure does suck.
Possibly your best video yet. Very professional, amazing graphics. Well done. So alarming that only a few seconds of disorientation can be so catastrophic.
Standardization of measuring units would be of a great help as this only complicates an already busy cockpit. Thanks for another great analysis of a very unfortunate accident.
It also highlights why switching to another system of units would itself, at least for a while, introduce added risk. E.g. if the entire world were to switch to meters for altitude, the transition period would be marked by a higher rate of incidents. So it’s actually safer to just stay with feet. (But the few that use meters should align themselves with everyone else.)
Your delivery, explanation and graphics are impeccable. I’m sure as a pilot you have many feelings and empathy for the lost crew. As long as humans fly planes they’ll always be the possibility of an accident happening. I think pilots work is very under appreciated.
The explanations, graphics, how it's narrated is of top quality. I only have one remark at timestamp 30:33, navaids are described as NDB but the symbols used are for VOR.
I have been watching your programs for years. It’s extremely interesting to see the graphics getting better and better, as is your presentation. Thank you for being a wonderful teacher and helping me with my continuing education.
TH-cam just recommended me your channel since I love documenaries about different incidents and I'm really impressed by the quality of your video! Clear narration, great info presentation, very comprehensible. Thank you, I definitely going to watch all other your videos now
Absolutely binge watching all these videos, incredibly produced from explanation to graphics. I request you do precision air 494, as the details released about this were different to the videos I see online. Interesting crash that was
Hey great video again. Maybe do one on the Ryanair that landed in Rome with 0 engine. Flight 4102 in 2008. Its very interesting because the pilots was critized for going around. Would like to hear why that is from a pilots perspective
I was working in the operations control center of Emirates airlines (NCC) during these days and EK provided crisis center service to Fly Dubai post this incident. The environment in the response center was gloomy, answering calls of the dear ones of the victims of the accident. Witnessed this and EK521 incident a couple of months later. Days, that I don't think I'd ever forget.
the culture of too much respect towards a superior. Classical, especially in southern european countries. I can imagine Petter would have said those 3 words!
You just have to appreciate the amount of effort he puts into these videos. And for him to post as much as he does. I have nothing but respect for mentour
Petters' examinations are so informative and so complete. It is entirely understandable how these tragedys can happen. It blows my mind with all the complexity, systems integration, failproofs, backups and even more just how hard their tasks and follow through are to keep this from happening. When you see something like this on the news you think wtf could have possibly taken a flight out, but yet when you watch these videos and technical analysis from a pilots pov, you can understand. RIP all of the mishap and tragedy victims, hopefully they will keep on working it all out until flying is as safe as it can possibly be. I think it's also interesting to note how some pilots unprofessionalism and attitude sometimes contributes to a tragedy. Not this one, though. What can they do to make it perfect? Seems to me piloting today's modern aircraft takes somebody almost superhuman and ready for anything at a moments' notice. I read one persons remark to take pilots out of the cockpit and make it totally automatic. I STILL vote for somebody at the controls, human imperfections notwithstanding. Then some brilliant hacker will hack AI and fly it into the ground just for fun and probably post it on some major social media platform somewhere.
That was a very informative video. I'm always rooting for those pilots, but then again I know they made it into your channel, so it most likely won't have a good outcome. Thank you for your contribution to aviation safety by helping us pilots learn from those that came before us!
A disturbing story showing how easily things can go horribly wrong. As someone that has watched the channel for while and would like to at least do a PPL, I've learnt the following things from your videos. 1. Flying a commercial airliner is very complicated, as the number of considerations is significant. While the various systems, warnings and automation obviously do a lot they can definitely result in pilot confusion when under significant stress. 2. Flying in zero visibility can be a major challenge when things go wrong. Anyway, your explanations of these accidents/incidents is excellent. I hope the channel is watched by a lot of commercial pilots and definitely by prospective pilots, because I imagine it would make many pilots pay a lot more attention to small details during training.
The real issue here seems to be the entire system's push to not divert unless absolutely necessary. If I was in a situation where other planes were diverting and I had already failed to land, I'd have diverted as well, writing off the airport as a lost cause due to weather. Thankfully the last flight I took on Southwest did exactly that. Huge storm in Houston and we diverted to San Antonio immediately. Then sat there for 3 or 4 hours on the ground, but even when we got there it in the early morning, it was a rough landing with lots of water on the runway. I can only imagine how bad it was several hours earlier. Diverting and waiting is a choice that should be encouraged more, IMO.
Ya, when things go wrong in a low to nil visibility at night situation the natural subconscious reaction would be to follow your instincts. In an aircraft, those same survival instincts are exactly what gets everyone killed.
I worked in Kabul for 3 years from 2014-2016. We worked 90 days ON and 30 days OFF. Fly Dubai flew us from Kabul to Dubai to catch our connecting flights for our vacation. It was actually a round-robin flight that did Khandahar-Kabul-Dubai. Generally they were clean and professional.
Even if he had, it's likely the captain would have still kept inputting on the controls. As he did exactly that at the end iirc. It's tragic, but I think the only way to save it would have been to wrench control from him within in the first few seconds. I think once he started wildly pushing on the pedals he was gone-gone. Very little short of someone proverbially slapping him in the face would've woken him out of the disorientation in time. Tragic, and extremely sad.
Watching this from a flight dispatcher perspective, I always tell myself what could I have done. SIGMETs are a part of the flight plan package and pre-flight briefing, and this video re-emphasizes the importance of giving full information, ALWAYS! Thank you, Mentour Pilot, for giving us this presentation. You're now an inspiration to me as an aspiring aviation content creator. Subscribing done!
Talk about an utter failure of cockpit resource management! The first officer was reduced to passenger status when he most was needed to save the plane. I wonder if there is some way, when the computer senses that the pilot's input makes no logical sense, it could automatically send control to the other chair?
Love your videos . Even a non pilot like myself understands mostly what is happening in the situations in your videos because of the way you explain them . Thanks 🇬🇧
it is a known secret that one should fight fear with fear, confronting the feared object. One should not be afraid of flying, it's the safest way to travel and if a crash happens it's the most merciful death there is, in most cases very fast and painless. Its just the seconds until impact which scare us.
Yesterday lm back from my country I over scared of flaying I'm still sick. Anxiety stress headache ... Maby this is manetal health condition..😢 not only fear
Mentour , I’m being quite honest , you’ve made me want to become a pilot even more , so I can experience these erratic situations myself, and breeze the skies with no worries😂😅 . Mentour keep this content up! I’m loving it
First time learning of this tragic event. Rest in peace to all the precious lives lost 🙏 First time watching your video. I have no flying knowledge, other than watching flight videos here and there. So lots of new terminology and semantics for me, but I was able to follow and grasp this terribly tragic event. Very insightful to know. Thank you.
I am not a pilot but you have earned a subscription from me. I do hope you create more videos where pilots successfully handled difficult conditions. The reason i ask this is so that when I fly (I mean in a commercial flight) I am not afraid and can have more confidence on pilots. They do a great job but owing to me watching such videos i tend to think of the worst and about things that can go wrong in a turbulent flight.
I just realized by your incredibly in depth description, that I've been through a wind sheer maneuver during a really bad thunderstorm. It was very scary, I'm already an anxious flyer so I was on another level. Luckily, our crew got us safely rerouted to another airport as landing was too dangerous in those conditions.
I just want to point out that I am new to this flight stuff and have absolutely no knowledge about it. Still this got me on the end of the seat. That is because you are a great story teller!
Aeroflot pilots did a really good in my opinion. Tried approach 3 times and just left for alternate rather then playing a waiting game giving time for vague thoughts to justify creep in.
Your videos are so professionally done and combined with the knowledge you bring as an experienced pilot that it's even better than watching documentary on TV.
Can't believe the captain was stil trying to pitch down and his inputs were fighting the FO's attempts to pull up. He completely really was totally lost.
As someone who knows almost nothing about what it takes to fly a plane, and who has only been a passenger, i find it remarkable that these Mentour videos reveal how often planes need to do go-arounds, which exasperate this nervous flyer no end...^^
As an Airline Captain I think the videos you produce are excellent quality and factual which is what I look for, no dramatisation and relevant. Thank you. The only feedback I have is the sheer volume of adverts is off putting which is a reason I stopped watching previously, in comparison to other TH-cam videos. I do understand however I can pay for TH-cam Ad Free if I wanted but I can usually tolerate adverts but not this many. BTW a super thanks, I’m a subscriber and a liker.
Neil, it is youtubes programming which shows the ads. I've long since put on an ad blocker and it works fine. Sometimes I get a notice to disable it, but by locking out then in again, that vanishes.
First video from this channel that I’ve watched. Was glued for each minute and subscribed instantly. Excellent content for those who enjoy aviation videos.
Incident videos like this should remind all of us in aviation that safety should be our number 1 concern above all else. Be ready at all times because if you aren't it could spell the end for you or others.
I have recently started my career as a pilot for a small regional airline called Republic Airways (On the CRJ200), and I have to say that your videos are invaluable to my own understanding on how CRM and safety works. I only have 1,000 hrs, but I plan to move up to Captain and eventually fly the 737-900 for Delta. Thank you for your content!
Petter, I don't know if you've covered it before. I couldn't find it. Reeve Aleutian Airways flight 8 from Cold Bay Alaska to Seattle which ended up diverting to Anchorage is a REAL thriller! It was an L-188 (?) Electra. The prop came off of the number four engine and sliced a hole in the fuselage leading to a rapid decompression. Engines 1, 2 and 3 were jammed at full throttle and the flight control cables were jammed. The crew exhibited excellent CRM and landed in Anchorage with no loss of life and no injuries. The crew went on to be recognized by President Reagan.
I've watched so many of your videos and for some reason, this one hurt a lot more. Many of the other ones are due to some coincidental alignment of negative events, or due to aircraft malfunction. Even if the accident is tragic, you know that these things happen. But this one is just due to a pilot completely losing his grip. Completely avoidable, and I wish the first officer had been able to take over before it was too late. RIP.
Love coming home from work and watching your videos. I find them relaxing. Not brain dumbing like most of the rubbish on television. I switch from practicing law during the day to relaxing by learning about the aviation industry at night. Your content is addictive! And I’m subscribing to NordVPN. Just so they can keep sponsoring your great work.
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Wow the production quality is impeccable, well done to you and your team 🙏🔥
Can I say you are an amazing individual I could listen to your voice all day very ASMR lol your knowledge is amazing your content is TV standard keep up the amazing work Captain your a credit to your profession 😊
I understand that you need ads on these videos but some of them appear at very disruptive places which spoil the fantastic narrative. It’s a real shame.
@Petter i would like to see an episode of the known facts for Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 in the future. Impeccable job sir! Thank you!
@@bmk4549 There have been some changes and I’m not sure they still let you choose when to put the ads, unfortunately. I know they used to let you.
The graphics, narration and content are so professionally done that at this point, this is like a full fledged documentary and not just the informed viewpoint of a full time pilot. Amazing!
Glad you enjoyed it! My team and I are constantly working on improving our work, to give you the best explanation possible.
Thank you for noticing!
I’d say it’s been like this for over a year now
@@MentourPilot Hi MentourPilot, how many people do you have working on your videos, if you don't mind me asking?
These videos are giving Nat Geo documentaries a run for their money honestly.
@@MentourPilotI'm a huge fan of yours, and I agree with everything that person said. I think I've binge watched practically all of your videos. I also watch 74 gear with Kelsey Hughes. I watched the one that you both made once. You Rock!
I've been an airline captain for 37 consecutive years. Have in excess of 27,000 hrs PIC, on 777, 767, 737, A320, 727 and ATR.
I'm still learning, been lucky on my career so far, without any serious trouble to date.
I must say this channel's content is the most precious ever, it's a valuable learning tool.
My sincere compliments to Mentour Pilot!
Totally agree
Thank you so much! Nothing feels better than receiving such praise from a fellow pilot.
Thank you for watching. 💕
I'd say it's not luck but professionalism. You've most probably successfully avoided troubles by doing everything by the book :)
No one has 27.000 hrs as PIC.🤦♂️You should have said total…
@@flyingbarbarian1thats not true.
I know a guy with over 47,000 hours total. I guarantee he has 27,000 hours PIC, at the least.
I feel so bad for the First Officer. Sounds like he really tried and knew what he was doing the entire time.
What's up with company procedures?? So let's say the captain is incapacitated by experiencing a heart attack and is completely unable to fly the plane, will the 1st officer still not take control because the captain did not have the opportunity to say "your control" to the 1st officer before he passed out? This is getting scary now.
@@myoutuber77there are company procedures for a clear pilot incapacitation, but the pilot was still calling things out and doing things. During a tricky maneuver like they were doing, the copilot would have had a hard time realizing the pilot was completely lost in the precious few seconds where he could have made a difference
@@myoutuber77Airlines clearly need your vast expertise in order to fix these problems. You need to contact them all right away and tell them you can fix all of this for the future.
Seriously, Dubai may have countless human rights violations and slave labor for a bunch of absurd rich madmens ego projects but the pilots are damn good
It's hard to have much faith in any policy made in Dubai haha..even ignoring the slave labor, dictatorship & corner cutting but all their urban planning is comically bad, the palm fronts are sinking and the Burj doesn't even have indoor plumbing and needs poop trucks hahah. It's a mix of morally bankrupt plutocrats and comically bad design and planning
I am a professional pilot since many years. My friend, I have to say that I never saw a crash analysis performed that well. Amazing combination of professional explanation and background information. Usually my wife falls asleep when we start watching a movie together, but putting your video on the TV she watched it with me till the end and showed big interest. Subscribing your channel was the least I could do to demonstrate my appreciation.
Thank you!
Would it not be safer just to get rid of human pilots and have fully automated flights?
Air travel will become a lot safer when the industry moves away from using humans as pilots
People will still die. But far less people will die with computer pilots rather than human pilots
@@mortgageapprovals8933 Tbh.. but then in situations like this it wouldnt be possivle or very hard at least. Cause things might pop up that the machine cannot solve or such
@@mortgageapprovals8933 could you please stop posting this bs!
@@LordOfSweden Eh. Looks like that guy (maybe a bot) is just spamming all of the top comments with the exact same copy/paste comment.
Maybe your wife likes the narrator❤
Oh wow... throughout almost the entire video, right up until you told us that the GPWS warnings were too late, I had been thinking that this was going to be one of those "near miss" incidents, where they went through some terrifying loss of control, but were able to pull through in the end. I hadn't ever heard of this accident before, and figured that if it had ended in a fatal crash, I'd have known about it already. That ending was such a gut punch. Just shows how quickly things can change in the cockpit.
I hoped the same so I went to the comments to find out. Disappointing. I always hope for a near miss.
Would it not be safer just to get rid of human pilots and have fully automated flights?
Air travel will become a lot safer when the industry moves away from using humans as pilots
People will still die. But far less people will die with computer pilots rather than human pilots
@@mortgageapprovals8933 Overall, commercial aviation is still the safest form of transport, so let's not throw a running system out of the window to try something totally new.
But I honestly think that there is still too high of a mental load involved in operating a commercial airliner. Humans really excell as predictive, real-time controllers, withhin our limits.
So, any system relying on our control has to assure either by design or by computer augumentation, that it stays within those limits. The most fundamental real-time criterion is the deadline. If the delay between input and control output is below the deadline, the control loop is closed. The more time reserve, the more reserve there is for some additional workload.
However, once the delay is close to, or at the deadline, there is no reserve left. Once that happens, the control loop is open, the controller is not able to respond to the input, but will rather act undefined. "Staying in front of" or "Getting behind of" the aircraft are, at least in some sense, directly related to this real-time criterion. Once you are over the deadline, you are getting "behind".
Control of a modern airliner should be further abstracted away to the bare basics (advanced avionics with very simple UI, which should still exercise the "stick-and-rudder-skills") to limit, or even better, manage mental load. Â HUD may not just display graphical elements, put on some lightweight, ~2030 AR glasses with a full FOV, and you have beautiful VFR conditions with overlayed atmospheric information with the worst IMC outside. While we don't want the pilots to be overwhelmed, they also shouldn't get bored. Let the pilots be skilled aviators, let the avionics do most of the rest, and let the system experts tune in via broadband LEO satellite link from a proper control room with full diagnostic access if issues of any sort are detected.
@mortgageapprovals8933 Is that true? I don't know if that's the solution. There are so many factors at play & crashes that have happened with the autopilot/computer systems playing a big role.
Better technology will definitely be great at improving the autopilot systems, therefore saving lives, but I still think we are a long way until it is safer to not have humans as pilots completely.
The chart at 42:44 gave me the ending, sadly for all on board.
As a young engineer that only just started her career in aviation, I must thank you and your team for your hard work explaining each and every incident. You cannot imagine how your content not only helps pilots but also other people who work in aviation.
Thanks to your content, I’ve understood things more in depth and it brought a new meaning to my job as an aeronautics engineer and how much every detail can make a change.
Keep up the good work! ❤
Congratulations on your career position as a aeronautics engineer, that is a blessing! I know you will prosper and bring tremendous amounts of talent to your work flow and work environment. God bless you.
Would it not be safer just to get rid of human pilots and have fully automated flights?
Air travel will become a lot safer when the industry moves away from using humans as pilots
People will still die. But far less people will die with computer pilots rather than human pilots
And as a young part-time male/female stripper, I must thank you.
@@mortgageapprovals8933 computers are great at handling autonomous tasks, but they are not capable of managing situations outside of expected parameters the same way humans are. There are many examples on this channel where the computers fail to perform correctly due to things like incorrect data or run into software errors/bugs. Piloting is too involved and complex to be replaced by automated systems (at least for now), plus you really don’t want to be in a situation where those systems fail and there’s no humans on board to take control
You go, girl!🖖
As a private pilot SEP, I learn a lot from every single one of your videos. Thank you very much, Petter and team, for the excellent analysis of that terrible accident and for the realistic detailed presentation. Like I read in some comments, I also felt myself directly in that cockpit. So sad to see, that a relatively stable 2nd approach turned into maximum catastrophic constellation within only one minute. The pilot monitoring 1st officer certainly had good skills in flying and he might have been able to recover the aircraft out of the horrible status, caused by his captain. An important lesson for all 1st officers out there to speak up earlier, when things exceed obviously the given parameters, and to offer or to 'order' taking over controls. Greetings from Germany.
This accident and explanations of it from various sources have puzzled me for many years. But you explained it very well and clarified a lot of details, thanks for sharing.
A tragic story told with great understanding and empathy, as usual. As with many of these incidents, I was sitting on the edge of my seat hoping for a happy ending but slowly becoming aware it's a Swiss cheese scenario or someone being overwhelmed by a situation. Keep up the excellent work.
Thank you, I will
I looked to the comments because it’s the first thing I want to know. “Do the pilots survive?”
I have no knowledge or experience in anything aviation related but I stumbled into this rabbit hole and your videos are so good. The way you lay things out mean that I can follow along without any prior knowledge and I've actually learned quite a lot just in the few videos I've watched. It's fascinating, thank you for the effort you put into making these!
I fell in the hole a month ago. I'm still hanging out though, it's really cosy down here with the Mentour video library,😁
I am not an airplane pilot, but I learn so much from these tragedies. I always shed tears for the victims and families because it is terrible to lose a loved one.
This channel teaches me to stay humble because it shows that even highly skilled people can be overwhelmed by mistakes. We are always trying to get better, and it's easy to get lost in the desire to explore new things.... This is where I learn the importance of practicing "the basics". So today I'm going to get the old Lego box out of the cupboard and start building our dream house again..
Ironically while covering these accidents, you're helping me rid me off my flight anxieties... seeing the brainpower that goes into this makes me feel safe.
Amazing quality on a step by step analysis of a sad story. Sitting comfortay in a late night, dark office with a warm coffee in my hands, actually not far from DXB, my heart breaks watching how quickly things can go from stabilized to a point of complete madness. I feel so sorry about the passengers and pilots, especially knowing if the co-pilot could have taken over the controls then they would have survived for quite sure. I just imagine that captain recognizing how deeply lost he is and saying: "it's your control".. may have had a different outcome. I honestly wish that they were all in a peaceful and lovely place now..
It’s always surprising and terrifying when the time between normality and tragedy is mentioned, in this case less than a minute.
😢😢
And at that point everyone aboard was accustomed to a last second go around so even that would have seemed relatively normal until the plane suddenly starts diving and rolling over.
The visuals on this episode were cinematic. Bravo Mentour Pilot and team! 🌟🌟🌟
Thank you so much! I’m so glad you liked it. 💕💕
I also liked the music choice and the editing was on point
Airline FO here and your videos are so good that I was clinching my hands and teeth so hard that by the end of the video I was sweating and with jaw pain.
Incredible work my friend!
Running out of things i can say in praise for this channel, it really is of the highest quality by such a professional team and never fails to deliver. Thank you for your hard work Petter and keep up the amazing work!
It’s an honor to get such high praise. 💕
We are doing this for you guys and we are so happy that our work is being appreciated.
@@MentourPilot sir I got a question. There have been multiple cases so far where the copilot could of saved the plane, but didn't. Why is that? Why don't they try and take over the flight controls?
@@pancak3because the pilot is often keen on staying in control either out of ego or panic - sometimes both. When both pilots attempt to control the aircraft, the net result is neutral aka nothing really results out of the copilot attempting to take control. The pilots likely believe they're more experienced and because of that, would rather navigate by themselves than defer that task to their junior.
@@jodyyy8752 but if the co pilot knows that the captain is not right in his mind, cant he like ask someone to come remove him from the seat or sumn XD
Man, you surely deserve thanks and subscription. Accidentally landed on your channel and immediately got addicted. Your production level is getting better and better with every video.Lot of respect for all those hours you and your team put into these videos.
Welcome aboard! 💕💕
Same here!
Air Traffic Controllers, Pilots, Cabin Crew, Nerds Like myself and many other people are hooked to this amazing stuff you are putting out there for us. It is miles ahead of even the best show national geographic used to air. I salute you sir. Keep up the good work.
As a flight data analyst, I'm learning so much from this channel. The more I analyze the flights and learn, the more I realize human factors play key roles in flight safety. Thanks for the video!
Yes, the obvious conclusion being that AI should fly the planes.
@@biosecurePM I don't think the AI is the ultimate solution though
Would it not be safer just to get rid of human pilots and have fully automated flights?
Air travel will become a lot safer when the industry moves away from using humans as pilots
People will still die. But far less people will die with computer pilots rather than human pilots
Great job Petter, describing a sad accident that simply should NOT have happened.
(I’m a retired 30k hour captain, with lots of time on both the 737-800 with it’s fabulous HUD, and other Boeings up to and including the 747-400.)
It was a really sad, very disturbing story, showing how absolutely critical it is to stay ahead of the aeroplane.
I wonder why he was so loathe to use Autopilot in such conditions.
Would it not be safer just to get rid of human pilots and have fully automated flights?
Air travel will become a lot safer when the industry moves away from using humans as pilots
People will still die. But far less people will die with computer pilots rather than human pilots
@@mortgageapprovals8933I’m not sure, if pilots land less often then the times when the autopilot has to disconnect automatically are going to become even harder for them with a lack of muscle memory. Probably leading to more accidents than there are now.
@@mortgageapprovals8933 If you’d ever sat on a jump seat on a busy sector you would realise that “self flying” aeroplanes are as far away as it’s possible to imagine.
Manipulation of the controls (ie: actually flying the aeroplane) is just a very small fraction of what we manage in the cockpit.
As the old saying goes: “flying is 99% boredom and 1% sheer terror” - though I’d personally never use the word terror, as I have always loved it when we get busy.
@@mortgageapprovals8933you keep posting this, and people keep disagreeing.
Dude.we get it. No need to make the same comment over and over. Go touch some grass.
Man, the production quality in your videos is wild. thank you again.
Glad you like them! We do what we can to explain the story as well as we can!
I have just discovered your channel. As an Air Crash Investigation “fan”, I was really impressed by your ability to keep the content interesting and technically accurate and detailed, with a fraction of National Geographic’s production means. Well done! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 I also like the fact that you cover more non-fatal accidents. The lessons learned are less painful to watch, being equally important for the betterment of the industry. Thank you! ✈️
it is extremely disconcerting how a pilot can be disorientated so quickly. Understandably this also confirms the different attitudes in control systems by Boing and Airbus, as Airbus wishes to make flying safer by more automation and Boing on the other hand believes the pilot has final input. It would be interesting to fly a simulator with these exact conditions using , for instance, an airbus A320 to find out if the automation protections would have kicked in and saved the aircraft. Extremely sad how such a professional crew were overcome by circumstances which eventually caused the wrong decisions to be made causing the aircraft to crash.
Both philosophies have their pros and cons but the ability to change the priority and even lock out the other pilot controls would have been useful here.
That’s why neither is truly superior. Accidents happen with both types of aircraft that wouldn’t happen in the other.
Accepted but we are discussing this particular incident and my question was under these circumstances would the different philosophies have made a difference. I believe that automation may be more dangerous than human error because the failure of a component may cause incorrect data which may contribute towards a catastrophe, therefore any automation should always be observed and corrected by human oversight!
@@MarcusWeinreich The irony is that in this particular accident, if the FO had been more assertive and decided to take the controls by force then he had an option that no Boeing pilot could ever have. The “pilot priority” button located on the Airbus side stick that’s the equivalent of the yoke/control column.
With one button press and hold the FO could have locked the confused captain out of the controls and flown the aircraft to safety. Pressing and holding the button causes the Airbus to ignore all input made by the other pilot, in this case the captain. Of course the Airbus verbally announces this “right side priority” but short of physically assaulting the FO there’s nothing the captain could do.
Instead of literally fighting the captain for control of the yoke since they’re linked, he could have just taken control. In a Boeing if the captain was pushing nose down and the FO is pulling nose up, whoever is physically stronger “wins” though as we see in this accident, nobody won. The additional irony is that Airbus also have a “flight envelope protection system” which means that up until the upset flight became too extreme, the captain could have simply let go of the controls and the Airbus would have automatically corrected and stabilised itself. And unless the autopilot was acting in a degraded mode, it wouldn’t have let the captain put any dangerous control movements to begin with.
I sound like a total Airbus fan girl in this comment but it’s just how the automation and flight philosophy would have worked in this particular accident. There are of course other crashes which wouldn’t have happened to a Boeing. Like I said, neither are truly superior and like you, I believe the human pilot should have the final say over the computer. The human pilot should always have the option to disable the autopilot and fly manually, but that’s a debate for another day.
Strange how you are confirming the exact point I was trying to make, in other words would the Flight Envelope Protection System have prevented the pilot the pilot from making such a catastrophic error? The First Officer's input can , for all intents and purposes, be discounted because this aircraft went from stable flight to unrecoverable in less than a minute and during that time the effects of negative G forces would have made his actions negligible or hardly significant!@@mikoto7693
Unbelivable that this "captain" didnt notice or rather admitted he was overwhelmed and give up control. He killed them all.
while I agree that it is definitely the captain who killed everyone, it must be noted that "being overwhelmed" is a loop that is really hard to get out of or even realize you are in it without proper training for that feeling
@@alpora7777 yea a got to admit now that was my first video from this channel after watching over 25 😅 i see that this really is something that happens because we are all humans, in the moment of hearing it doe anger just overwhelms any other thought
Have you ever been overwhelmed/overstimulated? In a state of disorientation and confusion where your brain tunnel-visions on one thing (in this case, on pushing a yoke in a particular direction), it's nothing to do with incompetence, ego or stupidity. It's literally just the human brain being whacky, it's just unfortunate and tragic when others' lives are lost because of it. But literally *anyone* can end up going through the mental fatigue to end up in such a state. There was a moment before the crash where he *did* come back and begin to pitch back up, but the sensory overload/mental overstimulation kicked back in and his attempts to override his panic failed. I don't actually blame the pilot here for any kind of malicious or inept action; we're all at risk of going into this sort of dissociative spiralling emotional state. Have some compassion for him as well, I'm sure in his right mind he never would have allowed this series of events to play out.
@@GrimFelArtI understand what you’re saying and I totally get it. But when you’re operating a plane with a bunch of people on it, you need to make sure you’re mentally prepared and not fatigues beforehand and if so idk there just needs to be more rules in place or precautions to make up for this. Peoples lives are at their hands
@@morganm5203rules can't prevent how the human brain works
i’ve lived in dubai for my whole life and have only flown Emirates my whole life. this is heartbreaking
This one was a tough one for me as I have friends who knew the involved pilots personally.
@@MentourPilotThis makes it even more valuable and important. Thank you for your Spirit Petter! Your Videos are very often truely saving my day😊
@@MentourPilot Same here. A cabin crew on the flight was a close friend of my good friend and classmate. So this tragic incident is so hard to accept.
Your video quality, narration, and cinematics are amazing. You are also teaching future pilots about safety and how to recognise where they can go wrong. Thank you for your amazing videos.
It never ceases to amaze me how fast things can go terribly wrong when pilots loose situational awareness. I wish every car accident on the ground would be so meticulously analyzed and lead to mandatory recommendations, like in aviation. A lot of lives would be saved, even if the cost would probably be quite high. Thanks for another amazing video!
Such a disturbing event, I remember a flight some years ago, trying to land at LROP, thunderstoms and windshear warnings, after an hour in hold just diverted to LBWN. Not worth it, better lose 3-4 hours and cause an inconvience than losing so many lives.
This channel is so informative for experienced pilots, new pilots and everyone else.
Exactly 💯
The intro of this video was quite intense and i like it. I heard about the FlyDubai 981 accident from a well known aviation documentary show a year ago. After watching this video, it really reminding me and understand how powerful spatial disorientation can be in aviation because it is one of the most common factor on some aviation accidents. Yes, I know somatogravic illusion a year ago from your Armavia Flight 967 video. I think this video is also one of my favorite now and i love it.
Thank you! I’m so happy that you found it helpful, that’s the whole purpose of the show. 💕
59 seconds ? Pilots have to make decisions so quickly. I don’t know if I would be able to do it honestly. RIP to all who were on board 🙏🏽
These episodes now blow any sort of Nat Geo type air incident documentaries, with all their overly dramatic 'entertainment' elements out of the water.
Massive thanks to you Petter, and all of your superb team - so well explained, presented and executed.
Patreon membership here I come 👍🙂
The focus is different for both . Appreciate both for what they are and stick to the one that meets your interest
Can you give us an example of overly dramatic entertainment in such a documentary?
No, this is better than NatGeo or History.
Simply awsome! 🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪!!!
With total lack of background, experience, education, knowledge (or honestly no particular interest in aviation what so ever!) I'm just blown away by you and your team's ability to create content that are both professional, insightful, formal, strict, respectful yet thrilling, suspenceful and highly, highly entertaining!
Only channel on YT that still gets a big "YES!!!" when a new video is out!
//Best wishes from Sweden! 🇸🇪
As a race driver, the closest thing that happens to us is instantly losing all grip in a 130mph bend learning too late your engine was puking oil onto your tires, but we’re not @ 35k feet…
Fun fact: Depending on the race governing body and class, your car very probably can go faster than the free fall velocity of a human that has their arms and legs spread.
@@littlegrabbiZZ9PZA A human’s terminal velocity is only 120mph + obviously far less when you’re spread out. So, yeah, basically any race series is beating free fall velocity.
I feel the same way riding, high-performance motorcycles. Generally if something goes wrong, it’s not gonna end well.
@@postersm7141For you, yes. Unless you’re on a track + have the new gen of suit w/airbags which make severe injury unlikely, crashing is pretty unforgiving. For race cars, we’re nigh on invulnerable with modern safety gear. Other than open wheel circle track racing, I laugh at all the people who think modern drivers are like gladiators taking major risks. No, those days were mostly over by the 1990s and are completely gone now.
@@The_ZeroLineThere have been 7 motorsports deaths this year, of which only one was open-wheel, and it was not on a circle track.
Such a good channel, being a non aviator I've learnt so much and gathered a real appreciation for the complexity involved with commercial pilots work load.
My father was a fighter pilot who also owned a share in a single prop aeroplane, which I had the opportunity to watch my father fly. While sat in the co-pilots seat. This channel reminds me of the education my father started and now this channel is continuing. Unfortunately my health would never permit me a licence of my own but I congratulate this channel for how it communicates and explains .
Makes you wish there was an emergency button that maintained pitch at horizon and constant speed. That poor FO knew what needed to be done, and your explanation really shows how easy it is to make mistakes. I still remember my MSFS trim settings being opposite of what I thought they should be and freaked out when my trim settings put me in a dive and I continued adding more trim to compensate, but as it was the opposite of what I thought the trim settings should be I just nose dived straight into the ground. Disorientation sure does suck.
sounds like the experience of the co-pilot of AF-447
Possibly your best video yet. Very professional, amazing graphics. Well done. So alarming that only a few seconds of disorientation can be so catastrophic.
the explanation and details were so real for a moment i felt i was there with them. great work man !!!!
Standardization of measuring units would be of a great help as this only complicates an already busy cockpit. Thanks for another great analysis of a very unfortunate accident.
It also highlights why switching to another system of units would itself, at least for a while, introduce added risk. E.g. if the entire world were to switch to meters for altitude, the transition period would be marked by a higher rate of incidents. So it’s actually safer to just stay with feet. (But the few that use meters should align themselves with everyone else.)
Differing units for altitude aren’t really a problem when you understand how to use them.
Your delivery, explanation and graphics are impeccable. I’m sure as a pilot you have many feelings and empathy for the lost crew. As long as humans fly planes they’ll always be the possibility of an accident happening. I think pilots work is very under appreciated.
The explanations, graphics, how it's narrated is of top quality.
I only have one remark at timestamp 30:33, navaids are described as NDB but the symbols used are for VOR.
Ooops. It was an NDB anyway
I have been watching your programs for years. It’s extremely interesting to see the graphics getting better and better, as is your presentation. Thank you for being a wonderful teacher and helping me with my continuing education.
TH-cam just recommended me your channel since I love documenaries about different incidents and I'm really impressed by the quality of your video! Clear narration, great info presentation, very comprehensible. Thank you, I definitely going to watch all other your videos now
Good stuff
Absolutely binge watching all these videos, incredibly produced from explanation to graphics. I request you do precision air 494, as the details released about this were different to the videos I see online. Interesting crash that was
I’ll have a look at it, thank you for your suggestion and for being here, supporting!
Hey great video again. Maybe do one on the Ryanair that landed in Rome with 0 engine. Flight 4102 in 2008. Its very interesting because the pilots was critized for going around. Would like to hear why that is from a pilots perspective
That one might well come.
@@MentourPilotthank you so much for replying. It means a lot and is quite rare from youtubers with a large community. 😊
I was working in the operations control center of Emirates airlines (NCC) during these days and EK provided crisis center service to Fly Dubai post this incident. The environment in the response center was gloomy, answering calls of the dear ones of the victims of the accident.
Witnessed this and EK521 incident a couple of months later. Days, that I don't think I'd ever forget.
Three words that copilot needed to say: "I have control!"
the culture of too much respect towards a superior. Classical, especially in southern european countries.
I can imagine Petter would have said those 3 words!
You just have to appreciate the amount of effort he puts into these videos. And for him to post as much as he does. I have nothing but respect for mentour
Petters' examinations are so informative and so complete. It is entirely understandable how these tragedys can happen. It blows my mind with all the complexity, systems integration, failproofs, backups and even more just how hard their tasks and follow through are to keep this from happening. When you see something like this on the news you think wtf could have possibly taken a flight out, but yet when you watch these videos and technical analysis from a pilots pov, you can understand. RIP all of the mishap and tragedy victims, hopefully they will keep on working it all out until flying is as safe as it can possibly be. I think it's also interesting to note how some pilots unprofessionalism and attitude sometimes contributes to a tragedy. Not this one, though. What can they do to make it perfect? Seems to me piloting today's modern aircraft takes somebody almost superhuman and ready for anything at a moments' notice. I read one persons remark to take pilots out of the cockpit and make it totally automatic. I STILL vote for somebody at the controls, human imperfections notwithstanding. Then some brilliant hacker will hack AI and fly it into the ground just for fun and probably post it on some major social media platform somewhere.
That was a very informative video. I'm always rooting for those pilots, but then again I know they made it into your channel, so it most likely won't have a good outcome. Thank you for your contribution to aviation safety by helping us pilots learn from those that came before us!
Petter does have many videos that end well, which is a very pleasant surprise.
A disturbing story showing how easily things can go horribly wrong. As someone that has watched the channel for while and would like to at least do a PPL, I've learnt the following things from your videos. 1. Flying a commercial airliner is very complicated, as the number of considerations is significant. While the various systems, warnings and automation obviously do a lot they can definitely result in pilot confusion when under significant stress. 2. Flying in zero visibility can be a major challenge when things go wrong. Anyway, your explanations of these accidents/incidents is excellent. I hope the channel is watched by a lot of commercial pilots and definitely by prospective pilots, because I imagine it would make many pilots pay a lot more attention to small details during training.
The real issue here seems to be the entire system's push to not divert unless absolutely necessary. If I was in a situation where other planes were diverting and I had already failed to land, I'd have diverted as well, writing off the airport as a lost cause due to weather. Thankfully the last flight I took on Southwest did exactly that. Huge storm in Houston and we diverted to San Antonio immediately. Then sat there for 3 or 4 hours on the ground, but even when we got there it in the early morning, it was a rough landing with lots of water on the runway. I can only imagine how bad it was several hours earlier. Diverting and waiting is a choice that should be encouraged more, IMO.
@@plektosgaming Indeed, exactly.
Ya, when things go wrong in a low to nil visibility at night situation the natural subconscious reaction would be to follow your instincts. In an aircraft, those same survival instincts are exactly what gets everyone killed.
@@plektosgaming 100% correct. And like the saying goes, "arrive alive".👍
I worked in Kabul for 3 years from 2014-2016. We worked 90 days ON and 30 days OFF. Fly Dubai flew us from Kabul to Dubai to catch our connecting flights for our vacation. It was actually a round-robin flight that did Khandahar-Kabul-Dubai. Generally they were clean and professional.
A really bad day at the office. FO might have been able to save it, but I'm guessing he feared to override Captain. Very sad.
Great narration!
Even if he had, it's likely the captain would have still kept inputting on the controls. As he did exactly that at the end iirc.
It's tragic, but I think the only way to save it would have been to wrench control from him within in the first few seconds. I think once he started wildly pushing on the pedals he was gone-gone. Very little short of someone proverbially slapping him in the face would've woken him out of the disorientation in time. Tragic, and extremely sad.
Watching this from a flight dispatcher perspective, I always tell myself what could I have done. SIGMETs are a part of the flight plan package and pre-flight briefing, and this video re-emphasizes the importance of giving full information, ALWAYS! Thank you, Mentour Pilot, for giving us this presentation. You're now an inspiration to me as an aspiring aviation content creator. Subscribing done!
"I HAVE THE AIRCRAFT!!!!!" is what needed to be said. In the USAF in the heavy community, I know for a fact this has happened and has saved many jets.
Talk about an utter failure of cockpit resource management! The first officer was reduced to passenger status when he most was needed to save the plane. I wonder if there is some way, when the computer senses that the pilot's input makes no logical sense, it could automatically send control to the other chair?
Yet another excellent video. Well done to all involved. Thank you for all the great content this year.
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Love your videos . Even a non pilot like myself understands mostly what is happening in the situations in your videos because of the way you explain them . Thanks 🇬🇧
Why do I keep watching this videos? Airplane flights are my biggest fear and my heart is racing just watching this
it is a known secret that one should fight fear with fear, confronting the feared object.
One should not be afraid of flying, it's the safest way to travel and if a crash happens
it's the most merciful death there is, in most cases very fast and painless. Its just the
seconds until impact which scare us.
Me to
Yesterday lm back from my country I over scared of flaying I'm still sick. Anxiety stress headache ... Maby this is manetal health condition..😢 not only fear
The quality of your work keeps improving with every video. This one was tough to watch but very informative. RIP to the passengers and crew.
Even though it was against procedure, I'm kind of surprised the First Officer didn't take the yoke several minutes before the crash.
Thank you Peter. You and your team make aviation industry safer by creating these videos.
Always excited when a new video drops!
I am not a pilot but I learn so much each time I watch your channel. Thank you for your superb insight and professional presentations.
Great to hear! 💕
Mentour , I’m being quite honest , you’ve made me want to become a pilot even more , so I can experience these erratic situations myself, and breeze the skies with no worries😂😅 . Mentour keep this content up! I’m loving it
Thank you! Great to hear.
Best of luck with your training and fly safe!
It’s like watching a film you narrate so well, with perfect depth of analysis for the interested layman. Thanks!
Very detailed video, amazing filming etc and the video conveys the information well, keep up the good work!
We will continue as long as you are here, supporting! Thank you 🙏
Thank you for the amazing job you’re doing! I’m busy studying for my first flight into ULLI so this is perfect timing 🙏🏻
Good luck!! Fly safe
@@MentourPilot the abreviations of airports intrigue me, how were they founded? Had to look up ULLI
to really get a surprise ;o))
First time learning of this tragic event. Rest in peace to all the precious lives lost 🙏 First time watching your video. I have no flying knowledge, other than watching flight videos here and there. So lots of new terminology and semantics for me, but I was able to follow and grasp this terribly tragic event. Very insightful to know. Thank you.
0:05 Yep. Aquaplaning. It felt like the laws of causality and physics stopped applying for a moment. I pressed the brakes, but it just kept going.
I am not a pilot but you have earned a subscription from me. I do hope you create more videos where pilots successfully handled difficult conditions. The reason i ask this is so that when I fly (I mean in a commercial flight) I am not afraid and can have more confidence on pilots. They do a great job but owing to me watching such videos i tend to think of the worst and about things that can go wrong in a turbulent flight.
Petter, you are remarkably intelligent. You are an asset to aviation and to the airline you fly for!
I just realized by your incredibly in depth description, that I've been through a wind sheer maneuver during a really bad thunderstorm. It was very scary, I'm already an anxious flyer so I was on another level. Luckily, our crew got us safely rerouted to another airport as landing was too dangerous in those conditions.
that captain really just killed everyone with his incompetence
Despite the nature of this accident.. I think this was your best production to date. I love learning from you captain.
I just want to point out that I am new to this flight stuff and have absolutely no knowledge about it. Still this got me on the end of the seat. That is because you are a great story teller!
There’s not a bit of fat in the narration. Everything is so well explained. Great quality.
Glad you think so!
Simply incredible videos. You are very gifted not only as a pilot but as a documentary producer….. very rare human talent and intelligence
Aeroflot pilots did a really good in my opinion. Tried approach 3 times and just left for alternate rather then playing a waiting game giving time for vague thoughts to justify creep in.
Your videos are so professionally done and combined with the knowledge you bring as an experienced pilot that it's even better than watching documentary on TV.
Love your stuff Peety. Waiting on the next one. Astounding effort on story and editing put in on this from across your team. We'll done
Much appreciated! 💕
Can't believe the captain was stil trying to pitch down and his inputs were fighting the FO's attempts to pull up. He completely really was totally lost.
As someone who knows almost nothing about what it takes to fly a plane, and who has only been a passenger, i find it remarkable that these Mentour videos reveal how often planes need to do go-arounds, which exasperate this nervous flyer no end...^^
As an Airline Captain I think the videos you produce are excellent quality and factual which is what I look for, no dramatisation and relevant. Thank you. The only feedback I have is the sheer volume of adverts is off putting which is a reason I stopped watching previously, in comparison to other TH-cam videos. I do understand however I can pay for TH-cam Ad Free if I wanted but I can usually tolerate adverts but not this many. BTW a super thanks, I’m a subscriber and a liker.
Neil, it is youtubes programming which shows the ads. I've long since put on an ad blocker and it works fine.
Sometimes I get a notice to disable it, but by locking out then in again, that vanishes.
@@juttaweise thank you
@@PilotNeil you're welcome 🙂
First video from this channel that I’ve watched. Was glued for each minute and subscribed instantly. Excellent content for those who enjoy aviation videos.
Incident videos like this should remind all of us in aviation that safety should be our number 1 concern above all else. Be ready at all times because if you aren't it could spell the end for you or others.
I have recently started my career as a pilot for a small regional airline called Republic Airways (On the CRJ200), and I have to say that your videos are invaluable to my own understanding on how CRM and safety works. I only have 1,000 hrs, but I plan to move up to Captain and eventually fly the 737-900 for Delta. Thank you for your content!
crazy video, kept me on my toes until the end, excellent analysis
Thank you! I’m glad you found it interesting
This channel surely saves lives.
Petter, I don't know if you've covered it before. I couldn't find it. Reeve Aleutian Airways flight 8 from Cold Bay Alaska to Seattle which ended up diverting to Anchorage is a REAL thriller! It was an L-188 (?) Electra. The prop came off of the number four engine and sliced a hole in the fuselage leading to a rapid decompression. Engines 1, 2 and 3 were jammed at full throttle and the flight control cables were jammed. The crew exhibited excellent CRM and landed in Anchorage with no loss of life and no injuries. The crew went on to be recognized by President Reagan.
You deserve more than just a subscription. I can imagine how much effort you put in these videos. God bless.
One of the best storytellers on the internet, period.
Poor first officer knowing what was coming and he couldn’t do anything about it because the captain was selfish and held on to the controls
The narration, the video, the background score - everything was on point!
I've watched so many of your videos and for some reason, this one hurt a lot more. Many of the other ones are due to some coincidental alignment of negative events, or due to aircraft malfunction. Even if the accident is tragic, you know that these things happen. But this one is just due to a pilot completely losing his grip. Completely avoidable, and I wish the first officer had been able to take over before it was too late. RIP.
Love coming home from work and watching your videos. I find them relaxing. Not brain dumbing like most of the rubbish on television. I switch from practicing law during the day to relaxing by learning about the aviation industry at night. Your content is addictive! And I’m subscribing to NordVPN. Just so they can keep sponsoring your great work.
You got me, bro. Subscribed and thoroughly enjoy your videos. Thanks for all of the info and graphics that dumb it down for us rejects.
Im adhd and its normally impossible to watch videos this long. Well done. And im not even a pilot
Too many arrogant pilots and just i more reason why i will never fly again . thats no flights now against 1 flight per month previously.