Do you see no positives for the Bulls right now? Are you not encouraged to see Coby get a chance to play positive winning basketball and get recognized for it?
22 years of being a bulls fan this team only exist for profit. The owner makes so much money from being top ticket sales every season, tourist, merchandise, on top of getting compensation for Lonzo and avoiding luxury taxes. This team is not trying to be good they have never tried only pure luck with rose and landing the goat this in the eyes of the owner is a winning season. They embrace mediocrity because regardless the owners pockets are getting filled. He also owns our baseball team and shocker here they are also the embarrassment of the mlb.
Who would have made a trade that actually made the bulls better during the season? It's crazy to think that other than a trade with the lakers/76ers for some draft picks with drummond that there was anything else in the market better than what they could trade for in the offseason.
The play in tournament has disincentivized franchises that sit in no man's land from selling off their parts and commit to a rebuild. Why? Because they get one more game's worth of revenue and a possible 7 game series to follow with inflated prices
I really think this front office is waiting to see how Lonzo Ball will look once he’s ready to play again. Which is insane. The honeymoon is over between fans and this front office. They’re no better than GarPax at this point.
Common thread is ownership. Doesn't matter if they have Brad Stevens or David Kahn in the front office, they'd all operate about the same under the Reinsdorfs
Cone thanks for bringing light to this - the Bulls have been doing this for over a decade Content with mediocrity This is why as a Bulls fan I’ve become more of a Player fan - meaning the teams I cheer for are contingent on the player rather than the organization
oh and letting their star point guards getting injured while being a top team. Happened twice. Once with D rose then next with lonzo then lavine. Then potentially later on could be coby white
Trades of Derozan, lavine, vuc, Drummond and Caruso will get you such a head start on a rebuild but they’re screwing themselves over for no reason. Roll with Coby, pat will and dosunmu and see what happens, they should’ve went all in on a rebuild last year and have a chance at wemby
The bulls coulda done what Leon Rose did in NY, deal your talent at its top trade level for pieces that fit perfect with other guys and build around cobe white and Pat Williams.
Im convinced Pax is still calling the shots!! Since Ball went down AK has acted EXACTLY how GarPaxshit did after the Tyrus for LA trade. Too afraid to make any waves.
If you actually watched the Chicago Bulls, then you'd know that the Bulls roster is not the problem right now. The Bulls biggest problem. The Bulls biggest problem right now is coaching. AK & Marc Eversley could seriously make all of the trades & signings they want. The Bulls aren't gonna get back to Championship contenders until Billy Donovan's finally fired or released. It is what it is.
The bulls are the definition of a team being okay being mediocre its clear they need trade zach lavine,deamr derozen, nikola vucevic,alex caruso, and andre drummond but they didn’t trade any of them instead they are hoping to rekindle the magic they had in 2021-2022 season such a unserious franchise
You think it is that easy to trade Zach? What team was willing to take DeMar and send back picks and expiring contracts? What was the market for Nikola Vucevic? Alex Caruso will still be a valuable asset in the offseason. Coby White is breaking out as a young star and Bulls' fans would rather the team tank so he can play meaningless games.
@@emilfrederiksen.1622 those picks aren't great. The earliest isn't until 2026 and it's the Clippers' pick which will be in the very late 20s. The Bulls can seek a sign and trade to get a better return in the summer.
Idk why anyone would want Zach... He's completely injury prone, empty stats on a bad team with awful shot selection, makes no one better, is reliant on athleticism rather than Ball IQ and Skill, and has a shit attitude. Who the fuck wants that if you want to win?
I won't be surprised if Bulls is just playing Hyenas. Embiid is injured, Bucks has coaching problems, Hawks still disfunctional, Heat looks vulnerable than ever.
The Bulls didn't make any trades at this past trade deadline because all of the trade proposals that the Bulls received were meant to improve other teams while the Bulls got even worse. Every single one. The best option that the Bulls had is to wait until the Bulls off-season & whatever happens happens. The Bulls can still retool the Bulls roster or even go full rebuild during the Bulls off-season. Those are still very much an option for the Bulls moving forward.
I'm a Celtics fan and even I get upset about how bad their front office is f'ing up! I started playing basketball when Jordan was the GOD of basketball and the Bulls was pretty much the only NBA team I knew about at the time. When i actively started following the NBA I latched on to the Celtics (back in 2015 when they where in a rebuild) and I am glad I did. That franchise at the very least seem to respect their fanbase.
The Bulls were good for one season before Lonzo got hurt. They were hopeful that he'd come back but he still isn't. Since then, they've been stuck in no man's land. It was fine holding out last season, but this season should have been a sign that says: yeah, a first round exit was pretty much the ceiling for us"
They where good but not great. They had a bad record against teams over .500 that year. But there is no doubt at this point they would be better with Lonzo.
Reinsdorf is laughing all the way to the bank. To him its simply give the silly fans a team of likeable players who win just enough to keep them entertained, and its alll good. Chicago fans will keep going to the games. The Bulls have the highest attendance in the NBA. Reinsdorf is good with that financial cash flow situation. Winning championships is the last thing on his mind
Look where the Pistons have been for the past 4 years. Bottoming out is risking that that will happen, there's a reason teams don't want to. It's easy to say tear it down when you're not a fan of the team
I never agree with u u never have nothing good 2 say about the bulls Alex is a win now piece so contending teams have 2 pay there way if they really wanna go all in 🤷🏽♂️
I know that the Bulls fans hate Jerry Krause till this day and I know they think that he was the main reason for the end of the Jordan super team (even if it's the Reinsdorf family's fault) But HE was the guy that created and built your franchise, bet they would kill for a GM like Krause now 😅😅😅
@@emilfrederiksen.1622 Krause's ego, to prove that he could do it without Jordan was his own downfall don't get me wrong but the guy deserves some credit. No one, not even most of his players (especially Jordan and Pippen) recognized his part in all of the success.
@@Jonteponte71 yes that's my point, you can hate the man but what I don't get is, how can you disrespect his achievements ? As far as I know, the guy wasn't a criminal, predator, etc. I'm not saying he was the nicest guy, (he wasn't) but you can't be nice in a enviroment like that, otherwise everyone would eat you alive.
Advocating for the Bulls to bottom out instead of continuing their push for a play in or playoff spot is nonsensical. That completely defeats the purpose of the play ins. The experience of competing is much more valuable for their young players like Ayo, Coby and Patrick Williams. Alex Caruso will still have value in the summer and can be used as an attachment to get off Zach or Lonzo's contract. Judge this team in the offseason
@@isandrooo advancing to the playoffs is better experience than not advancing to the playoffs. That isn't hard to grasp. And unless DeMar is willing to take a massive paycut, similar to Russell Westbrook, he'll more than likely need the Bulls to help facilitate a sign and trade. What contender will have cap space? Evidently the Thunder and 76ers were not viable options before the deadline and probably won't be viable options in the summer. Or do you think DeMar wants to leave Chicago to go to Detroit or Utah? Think
The only reason in my opinion why the Bulls went big game hunting in the summer of 2021 for Lonzo, DeRozan, and Caruso, plus Vucevic the year before was because they got trigged by the Bucks winning an NBA Championship. All it did was put them in the same situation they were in back in 2017. Did I mention that Giannis owns Chicago just like Aaron Rodgers did when he was a Packer?
In 2020 The last dance documentary and NBA Allstar game in Chicago is what set them off to make some moves. They mentioned having the attention in Chicago without any of their players in the Allstar game left a sour taste in their mouths
This guy clearly doesn't watch my team and is actually wasting all of your time we're surging right now started at 5-14 y'all won't pimp us out of our players no matter what you say get ready to play worry about Philadelphia lol or Atlanta they got problems made moves and still suck without the star not us though bro 3 games out of 6th but we supposed to blow it up blow me
We not giving orher nba teams ours player's for 💩🥧 so if the nba want ours player's pay us what we want or 🤐 because we don't care we chicago bulls so take it or leave it.
Don't agree whatsoever. FO is literally too incompetent to get the right deal done. They had 5 months to find deals for Demar, Vucevic, Drummond etc. Ofc we won't get as much in a trade if one of the guys is on an expiring contract, the other guy is a center who is bad on defense and well Drummond. The FO just waited too long which tanked the trade value for most of the guys
Bro this franchise sold their soul for Michael Jordan and 6 chips , ever since drose and Jimmy butler the franchise had made bad decisions
Do you see no positives for the Bulls right now? Are you not encouraged to see Coby get a chance to play positive winning basketball and get recognized for it?
@@karimw.9954That is the only positive for them right now.
@@karimw.9954slightly but they’re a while away from any kind of competitive play
@@karimw.9954coby white has been the lone bright spot but it feels like the team is gonna squander that by not building around him right
@@Other_Robots let's hope they can get a decent return for Alex, Zach, Lonzo and Nikola. I still believe in Patrick Williams and I'm rooting for Ayo
22 years of being a bulls fan this team only exist for profit. The owner makes so much money from being top ticket sales every season, tourist, merchandise, on top of getting compensation for Lonzo and avoiding luxury taxes. This team is not trying to be good they have never tried only pure luck with rose and landing the goat this in the eyes of the owner is a winning season.
They embrace mediocrity because regardless the owners pockets are getting filled.
He also owns our baseball team and shocker here they are also the embarrassment of the mlb.
You spoke nothing but facts bro
You must be talking about the White Sox correct?
Except in the MLB the A's exist and take the spot, in the NBA rn is the Pistons also not Bulls, they around the mediocrity club tho
Outside of MJ the Bulls franchise has been irrelevant. 1 conference finals appearance since MJ retired in 98
@@Loganbub And before Jordan
Fr. I have no attachment to them and I’m still annoyed by them lol
The big 3 was AK's brainchild and he's not willing to let it go
More like the mid 3
@@radityapoerwanto7018 true to some extent, but that team was the 1st-2nd seed at its peak
@@3isthenew1they still were never a serious contender even when they held the 2nd for like a week 😂😂😂
@@randomguy5489we will never know if they were real contenders or not.
@@randomguy5489nah tbf, our big three was with Lonzo. Once he got injured for eternity, it all went to shambles
yup the bulls are wasting everyones time, and im a bulls fan and im saying this.
damn i feel bad for you gang i hope y'all make some moves this off season and get a top 5 seed
Who would have made a trade that actually made the bulls better during the season? It's crazy to think that other than a trade with the lakers/76ers for some draft picks with drummond that there was anything else in the market better than what they could trade for in the offseason.
The play in tournament has disincentivized franchises that sit in no man's land from selling off their parts and commit to a rebuild. Why? Because they get one more game's worth of revenue and a possible 7 game series to follow with inflated prices
It also has led to teams and superstars trying even less in regular season. LAL and GSW know they can get into playoffs with 10th seed.
I really think this front office is waiting to see how Lonzo Ball will look once he’s ready to play again. Which is insane. The honeymoon is over between fans and this front office. They’re no better than GarPax at this point.
Common thread is ownership. Doesn't matter if they have Brad Stevens or David Kahn in the front office, they'd all operate about the same under the Reinsdorfs
Cone thanks for bringing light to this - the Bulls have been doing this for over a decade
Content with mediocrity
This is why as a Bulls fan I’ve become more of a Player fan - meaning the teams I cheer for are contingent on the player rather than the organization
oh and letting their star point guards getting injured while being a top team. Happened twice. Once with D rose then next with lonzo then lavine. Then potentially later on could be coby white
As a die hard, lifelong pistons fan. It's comforting to see another team's front office that is even more terrible than ours 😂
Had the same thought.
Chicago is basically the 2019 pistons. Except the owner and do have no interest in being anything more than the 2019 pistons.
Also your rival
true but the pistons have accrewed so many first rounders over the years only to continue to be ass
Trades of Derozan, lavine, vuc, Drummond and Caruso will get you such a head start on a rebuild but they’re screwing themselves over for no reason. Roll with Coby, pat will and dosunmu and see what happens, they should’ve went all in on a rebuild last year and have a chance at wemby
"The Bulls have always sucked and always will suck."
- probably most Bulls "fans"
I thought Toronto stayed the course too long. The Bulls put them to shame
Its the Deng Curse..😅😅😅😅😅 it will fade when he comes off the books😅😅😅😅
Thought they were done paying him 😂
@@ajgraham1523 he never comes off the books 😈😈😈😈😈😈
The Bulls is like a stale relationship. Not willing to break it off. Hoping the relationship will get better. Well it ain’t.
This applies to the nets, raptors and hawks too
The bulls coulda done what Leon Rose did in NY, deal your talent at its top trade level for pieces that fit perfect with other guys and build around cobe white and Pat Williams.
Im convinced Pax is still calling the shots!!
Since Ball went down AK has acted EXACTLY how GarPaxshit did after the Tyrus for LA trade. Too afraid to make any waves.
Its jerry Reinstoff who wants to stay in medocrity to get more money.
9:54 bro didnt pay attention to the lakers last year or the knicks this year lmaooo
Their GM needs to get fired
They should have traded everyone last season, gained assets while at the same time tanking for Wemby.
Oh, I forgot the Bulls existed for a minute lol
Good for the Bulls for still existing 👍🏽 🏆
if this franchise never had mj they would be one of the most laughable ones in the associations history. nothing but Ls aside from mj
If you actually watched the Chicago Bulls, then you'd know that the Bulls roster is not the problem right now. The Bulls biggest problem. The Bulls biggest problem right now is coaching. AK & Marc Eversley could seriously make all of the trades & signings they want. The Bulls aren't gonna get back to Championship contenders until Billy Donovan's finally fired or released. It is what it is.
Aggressively wasting our time
Will always remember DeBallZach
The bulls are the definition of a team being okay being mediocre its clear they need trade zach lavine,deamr derozen, nikola vucevic,alex caruso, and andre drummond but they didn’t trade any of them instead they are hoping to rekindle the magic they had in 2021-2022 season such a unserious franchise
You think it is that easy to trade Zach? What team was willing to take DeMar and send back picks and expiring contracts? What was the market for Nikola Vucevic? Alex Caruso will still be a valuable asset in the offseason.
Coby White is breaking out as a young star and Bulls' fans would rather the team tank so he can play meaningless games.
@@karimw.9954 Philly was offering a 1st round pick for Demar and the Bulls said no.
@@emilfrederiksen.1622 those picks aren't great. The earliest isn't until 2026 and it's the Clippers' pick which will be in the very late 20s. The Bulls can seek a sign and trade to get a better return in the summer.
I was confused about this inability to make moves. As a fan of AC I wanted to move him in decent team...
the nets are doing a similar thing. they actin like mikail bridges is the next kobe for them even tho he's always been a high end roleplayer
I could care less about the in season tournament. Dumbest thing ever created. Bulls might make the first round of the playoffs... That's about it.
Idk why anyone would want Zach...
He's completely injury prone, empty stats on a bad team with awful shot selection, makes no one better, is reliant on athleticism rather than Ball IQ and Skill, and has a shit attitude. Who the fuck wants that if you want to win?
I won't be surprised if Bulls is just playing Hyenas. Embiid is injured, Bucks has coaching problems, Hawks still disfunctional, Heat looks vulnerable than ever.
How? On their worst days, those teams are still better than the bulls
@@ChuloInYourCulo The ball is round. We'll never know until it's over. We might be in for some suprises.
The Bulls didn't make any trades at this past trade deadline because all of the trade proposals that the Bulls received were meant to improve other teams while the Bulls got even worse. Every single one. The best option that the Bulls had is to wait until the Bulls off-season & whatever happens happens. The Bulls can still retool the Bulls roster or even go full rebuild during the Bulls off-season. Those are still very much an option for the Bulls moving forward.
they cant just retool they got guys who are not going to resign, and no one of impact that are free agents, the bulls blew it
The Bulls are not wasting my time. I enjoy watching the Bulls. It's that everyone video content wants to be in the same bag wagon. Let's rebuild.
I'm a Celtics fan and even I get upset about how bad their front office is f'ing up! I started playing basketball when Jordan was the GOD of basketball and the Bulls was pretty much the only NBA team I knew about at the time.
When i actively started following the NBA I latched on to the Celtics (back in 2015 when they where in a rebuild) and I am glad I did. That franchise at the very least seem to respect their fanbase.
Three cone nails it once again
Let's rebuild the Chicago Bear. Let's rebuild the Chicago Cubs, but you don't hear that for other sports only the Bulls
What hoodie are you wear? I need it
The Bulls were good for one season before Lonzo got hurt. They were hopeful that he'd come back but he still isn't. Since then, they've been stuck in no man's land.
It was fine holding out last season, but this season should have been a sign that says: yeah, a first round exit was pretty much the ceiling for us"
They where good but not great. They had a bad record against teams over .500 that year. But there is no doubt at this point they would be better with Lonzo.
Even as a bulls fan it’s gotten to a point that I don’t give a fuck anymore just let em be mediocre no longer care about em
They don't need to be good. Along with every other sports team in Chicago. They can be bad and still sell out
Bulls owner doesn't care. Unless something impacts the bottom line nothing will change.
Few good mins away from beating heat last year they prolly think they got closer w C White gettin better
they should of stripped the bulls down to the studs
This Franchise getting krause's widow curse
I will lose respect for DeRozan if he resigns with Bulls as you would think hw would want to bd with s real contender.
As a bulls fan i have since switched teams and am now cheering for the pacers
You were never a true bulls fan then 💯
@@saitamaking324 they havent do e anything since drose injury kinda tired of mediocre
As a bucks fan, that’s what they get for not trading with us.
Y’all good. Y’all got Doc and Damien Lillard. 😂
Facts
@@_Mista_X nah bruh we not good
Whatchu finna trade us?
Tf were the Bucks gonna trade them😂
Reinsdorf is laughing all the way to the bank. To him its simply give the silly fans a team of likeable players who win just enough to keep them entertained, and its alll good. Chicago fans will keep going to the games. The Bulls have the highest attendance in the NBA. Reinsdorf is good with that financial cash flow situation. Winning championships is the last thing on his mind
It back
Look where the Pistons have been for the past 4 years. Bottoming out is risking that that will happen, there's a reason teams don't want to. It's easy to say tear it down when you're not a fan of the team
Bulls will give DeMar the max
I don't even watch bulls games anymore. Basketball is a lot less fun when your team is the least fun team there is
I only watch the Bulls to make fun of how bad they suck. I'm only a fan of them when they start being good again.
- probably most Bulls "fans"
Whos trading for these dudes? Everyone is old or overpiced other than caruso.
I never agree with u u never have nothing good 2 say about the bulls Alex is a win now piece so contending teams have 2 pay there way if they really wanna go all in 🤷🏽♂️
We know 🤣🤣🤣🤣👏👏👏👏
I know that the Bulls fans hate Jerry Krause till this day and I know they think that he was the main reason for the end of the Jordan super team (even if it's the Reinsdorf family's fault)
But HE was the guy that created and built your franchise, bet they would kill for a GM like Krause now 😅😅😅
Reinstoff said yes to ending the 1998 Bulls. He could sacked Jerry Krause when he went on these insane ego trips.
@@emilfrederiksen.1622 Krause's ego, to prove that he could do it without Jordan was his own downfall don't get me wrong but the guy deserves some credit.
No one, not even most of his players (especially Jordan and Pippen) recognized his part in all of the success.
@@emilfrederiksen.1622 and yes the Reinsdorff family are terrible owners that don't really care about success, only money.
@@Ahad_SamadDidn't the fans boo his widow at some event recently? That's pretty rough.
@@Jonteponte71 yes that's my point, you can hate the man but what I don't get is, how can you disrespect his achievements ?
As far as I know, the guy wasn't a criminal, predator, etc.
I'm not saying he was the nicest guy, (he wasn't) but you can't be nice in a enviroment like that, otherwise everyone would eat you alive.
Advocating for the Bulls to bottom out instead of continuing their push for a play in or playoff spot is nonsensical. That completely defeats the purpose of the play ins. The experience of competing is much more valuable for their young players like Ayo, Coby and Patrick Williams. Alex Caruso will still have value in the summer and can be used as an attachment to get off Zach or Lonzo's contract. Judge this team in the offseason
Trying to justify a guaranteed first round exit and Demar walking for nothing in free agency is WILD
They could have traded Zach Lavine before giving him possibly the worst contract in the NBA.
@@isandrooo advancing to the playoffs is better experience than not advancing to the playoffs. That isn't hard to grasp. And unless DeMar is willing to take a massive paycut, similar to Russell Westbrook, he'll more than likely need the Bulls to help facilitate a sign and trade. What contender will have cap space? Evidently the Thunder and 76ers were not viable options before the deadline and probably won't be viable options in the summer. Or do you think DeMar wants to leave Chicago to go to Detroit or Utah? Think
@@emilfrederiksen.1622 I definitely agree with that. Giving Zach that contract was a huge mistake.
@@karimw.9954a play in game isn’t worth it could get such a great start on a rebuild with their young guys but refuse to
Keep sleeping they’re better than the record indicates
Yeah you are delusional your team is going no where you need to blow it up sack the front office and build around Coby White.
The only reason in my opinion why the Bulls went big game hunting in the summer of 2021 for Lonzo, DeRozan, and Caruso, plus Vucevic the year before was because they got trigged by the Bucks winning an NBA Championship. All it did was put them in the same situation they were in back in 2017. Did I mention that Giannis owns Chicago just like Aaron Rodgers did when he was a Packer?
In 2020 The last dance documentary and NBA Allstar game in Chicago is what set them off to make some moves. They mentioned having the attention in Chicago without any of their players in the Allstar game left a sour taste in their mouths
@@Raging_Bull1 Theres that as well.
This guy clearly doesn't watch my team and is actually wasting all of your time we're surging right now started at 5-14 y'all won't pimp us out of our players no matter what you say get ready to play worry about Philadelphia lol or Atlanta they got problems made moves and still suck without the star not us though bro 3 games out of 6th but we supposed to blow it up blow me
Happy barely making the playoffs and a first round exit with a core that’s losing value fast
@@alexescutia4805 barely making the playoffs is how you get to the championship ask Miami heat
@@alexescutia4805 oh but I forgot this ain't 2k video game fans
@@alexescutia4805 And you never seen this team because Coby white has never started with these guys ever. New day bud
We not giving orher nba teams ours player's for 💩🥧 so if the nba want ours player's pay us what we want or 🤐 because we don't care we chicago bulls so take it or leave it.
Don't agree whatsoever. FO is literally too incompetent to get the right deal done. They had 5 months to find deals for Demar, Vucevic, Drummond etc. Ofc we won't get as much in a trade if one of the guys is on an expiring contract, the other guy is a center who is bad on defense and well Drummond. The FO just waited too long which tanked the trade value for most of the guys
@@jeffreywasisua1271 THEY DON'T GIVE A 💩 ABOUT THE FANS GO PLAY 2K
Zach Lavine is on the worst contract in the NBA you would have to pay someone to get off it.
Jordan curse
I genuinely feel sorry for Bulls fans