I'm shocked at how good that image looked and as for the snow as you said it's there but you can still see everything you need to see. I think it's just so bloody amazing how technology is coming along leaps and bounds everyday. Awesome review and information Andy 👍👍👍🐺
Excellent review and love how you picked up on the benefits of a locked in system. It offers a totally different and appreciated experience to a digital link that doesn't bring fourth the anxiety that comes with a digital link (freezing, stutters, dropped frames or pixelation with full signal but too much details to handle) . Flying both dji and hdzero, I absolutely love my hdzero system (and my dji)
That's some of the cleanest HDZero footage I've ever seen. TH-cam's compression really does make a mess of HDZero uploads unless you go 4K. Btw, you can access the BF OSD menu fine with any HDZero VTX (including the 200mW Whoop board). You're probably thinking of smart audio which isn't available, but even that can be configured via special stick commands via a custom HDZero VTX OSD menu.
@@AndyRCchannel indeed, SA on those other boards is probably more for racers so that BF can control the VTX directly to do things like low-power on disarm or configure the VTX CH/band/power via the control link (e.g. using radio knobs or LUA scripts). Most freestylers rarely need this so doing it directly via the HDZero OSD (i.e. bypassing BF) is sufficient.
Fantastic flying and review, Andy! 😃 I guess it depends on the VTX you have. I believe the newer have smart audio... But, as always, I can be mistaken. 😬 Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
HDzero will become the standard in the coming years, like analog was. Wait until the goggles come out and they introduce an affordable entry level goggle. It's like how people didn't pay much attention to ELRS at the beginning and now look at how popular it is.
Thank you for the fair review! This is great! Just to add, my V1 VRX did not like foxeer lollipops at all. I went from lollipops and the internal patches to long singularities and MX-Air single patches from TrueRC and my range hugely increased
Great review, very much objective while providing perspective towards the subjective matters. Good amount of information. Loved your Walksnail review, as well.
I have the system and three HD Zero drones. All three drones would drop video and cause crashes. I updated the VRX to the latest update and it appears to have fixed the issue.
Thank you for all the info, I'm new to fpv and I want to ask if it would be possible to use the HDZERO with my diatone 369 and skyzone cobra x googles?
How do you see HDZero for Freestyle and Cinematography use? Is this an option in comparison to DJI/WALKSNAIL or just stick with analog until some newer options?
From what I've seen HDzero is overall the best out there. But I've also heard 1st en 2nd hand complaints about dropped frames and rebooting modules(mid flight), vtx dying mid flight. Some of them are going back to analog for the time being. I sooo wish that Skyzone would surprise us all with a non-beta hd fpv system.
It's strange because out of all the HDZero kit I have (4 fully built quads) everything has been rock solid. Even when I accidentally bricked my VRX (totally my fault) I recovered it really easily.
Just for disclosures sake, I bricked my VRX by accidentally using a fatshark 18650 case that I knew was broken but absentmindedly forgot about. Jiggled it during the update and thus mangled the firmware. The unbricking procedure simply involves flicking a hidden switch (using a pair of tweezers through one of the vent holes on the back) and just running it again. Must activate some backup bootloader or something but it works bloody well!
AlbertKim did a demo of this kind of setup using an FPV monitor (with HDMI in) a couple months ago. As AndyRc states, any monitor with HDMI in would work. Just need to jerry-rig a mount to hold receiver module, and point antennas to cover airspace in direction where flying.
I believe the apex ships with the nano V1 (not the original orange one, but the updated black one). Incidentally the V2 nano will be out very soon and it looks incredible
@@adbas6201 the hdzero Vrx will work with anything that has a HDMI input. Such as a big monitor. Those boxes can't be bought they were made specifically for the race event but the vrx can do exactly the same apart from comine hd streams with analogue
Same question. I think it will work with the Cobra X, it has HDMI in. But after i bought them a while ago i read something about not every HDMI in will work… @andyrc: can you tell us more about this?
yes you have betaflight osd with the regular stick commands. no need for smart audio to change pids etc. The aspect ratio in the vrx menu doesn't control the camera, it controla the image that is sent to the goggles so you can have a non squished image even on a 4:3 goggle.
The betaflight menue comes up when you put your left stick to the left and your right to the top left, maybe i confuse the sticks, but the corners are the right ones.
@@AndyRCchannel I allways wire them up without smart audio. The old vtx (original whoop board, race v1) were not able to do so. The community asked for it and we got it in the newer versions. Allso works with elrs backpack (i never tried it)
I think if you wired the smart audio is just for have the vtx settings in the bf osd rather than normal vtx menu... And also use the low power mode and all the options that you have when using bf with smart audio
Andy, you talk about money, are you familiar with PIP? if you are not already claiming it then do so, it not only provides extra money in itself but bumps up all other benefits, exempts you from council tax and you can also get a flat rate on your water from many company's, wessex water give me unlimited use for £14 a month and i hammer it ha ha. They like to reject PIP claims a lot to put people off but then award on appeal, they didnt with me but i was expecting them too due to it being so common. Im permanently signed off sick and on ESA, when i was awarded PIP it literally doubled my ESA in addition to the PIP, plus the other perks i mentioned, it made so much of a difference to my finances.
@@AndyRCchannel Your Rc hobby is one of the grounds you can use in claiming it, the funds allowing hobbys to benefit mental health is a legitimate thing and i put it as a major benefit being granted pip would have on my life. Another legitimate reason is being able to afford your car were anxiety means you must have your own personal transport, i struggled to run my car before i got it but now dont worry about the drinking problem my V6 has and gladly encourage it with my right foot ha ha. Do your research before claiming and put in a well thought out application and if you can keep it in your mind that you once done you will probably never speak to the people again, paint yourself in the the worst way you can, a little humiliation is worth it if it secures your application!
@@AndyRCchannel There are several different rates of PIP, i get the lowest which is currently £247.40 every 4 weeks but the huge increase in ESA and the other discounts and exemptions because of it make it worth way more than that. I went from struggling to eat to now being able to afford life plus hobbys plus im saving for when my car eventually needs replacing but i like my car so hope that wont be for a long time!
@AndyRC Actually I was trying to clarify because I don't understand how that would work without sbus. How many wires are connected to your vtx? And which pads? Just tx/rx? I'm going to get to the bottom of this sorcery!!
@@AndyRCchannel Ok, without sbus you can only access the vtx menu through tx/rx. With sbus you can access the BF settings such as rates. Shout out to Oscar Liang! Lol Thanks again for everything Andy. Your videos are uniquely refreshing and informative. 👍👍
I think there were some colour issues with the ev300o. Don't recall whether it was fixed or not. I'll have a look around EDIT: nope should be fine (though not ideal due to the resolution and display type) but yeah it'll work just fine, you'll just miss out on the colour depth and resolution benefits a bit
@@dazultra2000 I have the v1's. Never updated or added a 2nd module. Never noticed color issues (?). Might look into this new HDzero some more. Or ad a second module anyways (seems to work fine from what I've seen so far.
A new low for youtube? Reported some obvious scammers, but youtube leaves their account up and only deletes their comments. I mostly report them as "impersonators" and sometimes a second report for scamming. But when I report one that has a 1 year old account and youtube does not delete the account....it makes me wonder if youtube employees are part of this scam.
Yes I was very disappointed with their actions. Spent about an hour talking to one of their reps. This morning got a copy paste email of best practices. They have not deleted their accounts
I'm aware that people say this and do tests etc however its also true having the patches so close to the VRX ruins the signal also which the original FS module has them sat inside the module. I flew the fatshark module and the hdzero module side by side and they performed the same?
Man, since DJI sent them a cease and dist order, I wouldn't touch this sytem with a ten foot pole. My speculation is that it's going to get abandoned quick for firmware updates and orphaned to the rubbish bin of history. I'm not even sure why ou would want it... it's just a firmware rip of the DJI system, only kludged to be.. worse? I hate the DJI goggles, but I can't see that these would offer anything better than perhaps different display screens and a smaller form factor. That's not worth going out way on a limb for and risking your investment IMHO. I would be interested to see this "display box for streaming to TH-cam". It's probalby the goggles without the goggles, what I've been asking for, but the same terrible 100ms latency. Get your hands on one and see if you can fly to the video feed to it. If it's stable, if it's not latent as phwwwk. You can fly cinematic to 100ms, but you can't do aerobatics to it.
I very well may djump all my DJI crp for this thing. I watied for the next gen DJI to come out with HDMI and they failed me twice. Throw away those goggles, slap this thing on the back of an DHMI TV. You don't want all that crrp and weight hanging off your face.
Think my mind is made up! Never going dji and fatshark I may hold off on. Hdzero is way I'm going to be going for sure! Wait till the new goggles hit. But now I guess the rdq case got thrown out of court not to sure how much more money I'll drop into it till see what happens.
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I'm shocked at how good that image looked and as for the snow as you said it's there but you can still see everything you need to see. I think it's just so bloody amazing how technology is coming along leaps and bounds everyday. Awesome review and information Andy 👍👍👍🐺
Not as good as DJI
@@SikhFPV 😆👌
I had my first hdzero flights yesterday, coming from analog and I have to say I regret not getting into it earlier...
Excellent review and love how you picked up on the benefits of a locked in system. It offers a totally different and appreciated experience to a digital link that doesn't bring fourth the anxiety that comes with a digital link (freezing, stutters, dropped frames or pixelation with full signal but too much details to handle) . Flying both dji and hdzero, I absolutely love my hdzero system (and my dji)
You can use the bf OSD as usual via stick commands.
That's some of the cleanest HDZero footage I've ever seen. TH-cam's compression really does make a mess of HDZero uploads unless you go 4K. Btw, you can access the BF OSD menu fine with any HDZero VTX (including the 200mW Whoop board). You're probably thinking of smart audio which isn't available, but even that can be configured via special stick commands via a custom HDZero VTX OSD menu.
I'd it can be accessed. What's the benefit of smart audio enabled vtx is what's confusing me?
@@AndyRCchannel indeed, SA on those other boards is probably more for racers so that BF can control the VTX directly to do things like low-power on disarm or configure the VTX CH/band/power via the control link (e.g. using radio knobs or LUA scripts). Most freestylers rarely need this so doing it directly via the HDZero OSD (i.e. bypassing BF) is sufficient.
Great review and coverage of info - this system has come a long way since I bought it in Dec of 2020. Still loving it!
Same here! thanks
Excellent review! To the point and no BS. Nice Andy!
Fantastic flying and review, Andy! 😃
I guess it depends on the VTX you have. I believe the newer have smart audio... But, as always, I can be mistaken. 😬
Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Get yourself a Freestyle 1W. These things are beasts. I’ve been over 10km out with more or less perfect image.
I’m trying to get mines to work but I keep have lost signal on my gps with HDZero on any of my other uarts.
HDzero will become the standard in the coming years, like analog was. Wait until the goggles come out and they introduce an affordable entry level goggle. It's like how people didn't pay much attention to ELRS at the beginning and now look at how popular it is.
3 km not problem with 200mW and with 1w easy 10 km with 2 truerc patchs one foxeer v4 omni and 1 helical...thanks video friend...Andy
Great video Andy, I hope you are well. It was great to see you at Weston Park!
@MenaceRc make great antenna, my favourite patch antennas
Hdzero is the most under rated tech in fpv.
I love mine.
The ScoutHD have replaced both my dji and my hdo2's
But your referring to a product that’s discontinued.
@@creationlabsinc.189 That's true, wors is though Skyzones will be bring out a set soon.
@@gmivisualsjason3729 thats what I hear. They need to get a move on haha
@@AndyRCchannel Best things in life are worth waiting for.
We're too impatient as a community.
Right on great review. Hope to see you racing soon.
Great to see HDZero coming along. Style of video and quality seem very viable.
A nice update on status of HDZero technology.
That's TH-cam unfortunately. I uploaded it in 4k. It says it's processed as 4k. Still shows 1080 for me :-(
Thank you for the fair review! This is great! Just to add, my V1 VRX did not like foxeer lollipops at all. I went from lollipops and the internal patches to long singularities and MX-Air single patches from TrueRC and my range hugely increased
its all I have for now, everything else out of stock but it still did well. looking forward to menace antennas :)
@@AndyRCchannel I always use menace when I can. Still use my raptor and picopatch on my analog module 🙂
Great review, very much objective while providing perspective towards the subjective matters.
Good amount of information. Loved your Walksnail review, as well.
thanks so much. thanks for watching
Awesomeness Andy! I'm building up a couple HDZero racers myself now. Thanks!
awesome :) need to do the same
6 months later, I still haven't taken mine out of the box.
Why did I buy this thing?
I can't wait for the new goggles as soon as they come out I'm switching everything to HD0.
I have the system and three HD Zero drones. All three drones would drop video and cause crashes. I updated the VRX to the latest update and it appears to have fixed the issue.
I like to listen to my props and motors with an ear bud. Does HDZero have onboard audio?
Thank you for all the info, I'm new to fpv and I want to ask if it would be possible to use the HDZERO with my diatone 369 and skyzone cobra x googles?
How do you see HDZero for Freestyle and Cinematography use? Is this an option in comparison to DJI/WALKSNAIL or just stick with analog until some newer options?
what foam do you reccomend for hdo2 goggles? neoprene from banggood? or foam?
Is that mean i shouldn't go with them for skyzone 03o ?
Nice review andy, I'm having lot's of fun flying hdzero. Especially fixed wings, 20km is easy 😋
So how long do they let you hold and fly it before you need to send it back? Great review!
I get to keep it. Just have to spend in this case a week making a video. You might think it's free but it's not.
From what I've seen HDzero is overall the best out there. But I've also heard 1st en 2nd hand complaints about dropped frames and rebooting modules(mid flight), vtx dying mid flight. Some of them are going back to analog for the time being.
I sooo wish that Skyzone would surprise us all with a non-beta hd fpv system.
It's strange because out of all the HDZero kit I have (4 fully built quads) everything has been rock solid. Even when I accidentally bricked my VRX (totally my fault) I recovered it really easily.
Just for disclosures sake, I bricked my VRX by accidentally using a fatshark 18650 case that I knew was broken but absentmindedly forgot about. Jiggled it during the update and thus mangled the firmware. The unbricking procedure simply involves flicking a hidden switch (using a pair of tweezers through one of the vent holes on the back) and just running it again. Must activate some backup bootloader or something but it works bloody well!
Looks great but how is the signal indoors or in a construction site setting?
I have a whoop board coming so ill let you know
It does really well indoors and handles multi pathing much better than analog
Thanks, a really useful review :)
Andy , do you think this hd zero rx can plug into a tv for visually impaired fpv pilots to use without goggles ?
It plugs into anything that has HDMI thats how i recorded the menus
AlbertKim did a demo of this kind of setup using an FPV monitor (with HDMI in) a couple months ago. As AndyRc states, any monitor with HDMI in would work. Just need to jerry-rig a mount to hold receiver module, and point antennas to cover airspace in direction where flying.
Will the Skyzone cobra x work on hdzero system as well?
New race quad build vid in the mix 😃
yes i think so :) getting parts is the issue
i assume that the hawk has a 4:3 camera and you should use it in 4:3. In 16:9 the resolution is lower.
What camera did you fly with? Thank you for the review. :)
I believe the apex ships with the nano V1 (not the original orange one, but the updated black one). Incidentally the V2 nano will be out very soon and it looks incredible
@@dazultra2000 it seems to be a huge step up with the new camera. Glad to see it.
Great review like always 👍
I agree it's better mw for mw, and as long as your moving you usually get through some bad breakup too.
I think you have to match antennas per "bank" which is Left or Right pairs of SMA's, not "top" and "sides"
Greg from menace has been doing a lot of work with Carl to figure out the best antenna setup. Stay tuned
The hdo's are a very viable option. The hdmi board was a better quality.
Also most prefer the 4:3 ratio.
interesting thx for the insight
Great stuff dude, build it
Great review Andy , would love to c you build a race drone and have a go at an event for the fun of it👍🏻
thanks me too :) id be rubbish though haha
Hd zero recieves DJI AIR UNIT ?
if signal lost, will the screen goes black suddenly like dji ?
No it goes rainbow
@@AndyRCchannel thanks for sharing!
Great vídeo 👌
At the beginning you show a receiver that can be used with an mhd display. What is it ?
You mean the hdzero boxes?
@@AndyRCchannel yes exactly. In fact I do FPV (gliders) without goggles ( I prefer to have an LCD 15" screen to have a better view)
@@adbas6201 the hdzero Vrx will work with anything that has a HDMI input. Such as a big monitor. Those boxes can't be bought they were made specifically for the race event but the vrx can do exactly the same apart from comine hd streams with analogue
Will these work with skyzone cobra X v1 ?
Cobra X ?
If it has an HDMI in port... Then yes.
Same question. I think it will work with the Cobra X, it has HDMI in. But after i bought them a while ago i read something about not every HDMI in will work…
@andyrc: can you tell us more about this?
AndyRc I'd love to hear your thoughts cause I want to order but I need AndyRC blessings first
On the vtx working on skyzone cobra x ?
Smooth is the word I heard
yes you have betaflight osd with the regular stick commands. no need for smart audio to change pids etc. The aspect ratio in the vrx menu doesn't control the camera, it controla the image that is sent to the goggles so you can have a non squished image even on a 4:3 goggle.
The betaflight menue comes up when you put your left stick to the left and your right to the top left, maybe i confuse the sticks, but the corners are the right ones.
Why are there vtx with smart audio and ones with not If the stick command for betaflight osd works anyway ?
@@AndyRCchannel I allways wire them up without smart audio.
The old vtx (original whoop board, race v1) were not able to do so. The community asked for it and we got it in the newer versions.
Allso works with elrs backpack (i never tried it)
I think if you wired the smart audio is just for have the vtx settings in the bf osd rather than normal vtx menu...
And also use the low power mode and all the options that you have when using bf with smart audio
Can be mounted on eachine EV300O?
No idea sorry
Andy, you talk about money, are you familiar with PIP? if you are not already claiming it then do so, it not only provides extra money in itself but bumps up all other benefits, exempts you from council tax and you can also get a flat rate on your water from many company's, wessex water give me unlimited use for £14 a month and i hammer it ha ha.
They like to reject PIP claims a lot to put people off but then award on appeal, they didnt with me but i was expecting them too due to it being so common.
Im permanently signed off sick and on ESA, when i was awarded PIP it literally doubled my ESA in addition to the PIP, plus the other perks i mentioned, it made so much of a difference to my finances.
I will take a look at that thank you
@@AndyRCchannel Your Rc hobby is one of the grounds you can use in claiming it, the funds allowing hobbys to benefit mental health is a legitimate thing and i put it as a major benefit being granted pip would have on my life.
Another legitimate reason is being able to afford your car were anxiety means you must have your own personal transport, i struggled to run my car before i got it but now dont worry about the drinking problem my V6 has and gladly encourage it with my right foot ha ha.
Do your research before claiming and put in a well thought out application and if you can keep it in your mind that you once done you will probably never speak to the people again, paint yourself in the the worst way you can, a little humiliation is worth it if it secures your application!
@@stevefox3763 thanks Steve thats very helpful. I need all the help i can get at the moment
@@AndyRCchannel There are several different rates of PIP, i get the lowest which is currently £247.40 every 4 weeks but the huge increase in ESA and the other discounts and exemptions because of it make it worth way more than that. I went from struggling to eat to now being able to afford life plus hobbys plus im saving for when my car eventually needs replacing but i like my car so hope that wont be for a long time!
@@stevefox3763 Thanks steve ill look into it
Спасибо, отличный обзор.
The stick commands for vtx menu and vtx on/off work without sbus?
Why do some vtx state they have smart audio and some not if the stick command works with all of them? Is it for actual audio?
@AndyRC Actually I was trying to clarify because I don't understand how that would work without sbus. How many wires are connected to your vtx? And which pads? Just tx/rx? I'm going to get to the bottom of this sorcery!!
@@AndyRCchannel Ok, without sbus you can only access the vtx menu through tx/rx. With sbus you can access the BF settings such as rates. Shout out to Oscar Liang! Lol Thanks again for everything Andy. Your videos are uniquely refreshing and informative. 👍👍
@@imightturngreen thanks for that. ill look up the sbus thing
Will it fit on a Fatshark Dominator HD2?
Yes but would not recommend as it's not an hd goggle despite the name
@@AndyRCchannel ok, thanks!
Will look for a newer pair then
Can you fly HD Zero with a Monitor?.
You certainly can :-)
Would this work with the Eachine ev300o goggles?
If they have hdmi in then yes
@@gmivisualsjason3729 Eachine is the de shell as the Skyzone O4X but with 1024x768 screen.
I think there were some colour issues with the ev300o. Don't recall whether it was fixed or not. I'll have a look around EDIT: nope should be fine (though not ideal due to the resolution and display type) but yeah it'll work just fine, you'll just miss out on the colour depth and resolution benefits a bit
@@dazultra2000 I have the v1's. Never updated or added a 2nd module.
Never noticed color issues (?).
Might look into this new HDzero some more.
Or ad a second module anyways (seems to work fine from what I've seen so far.
Good mod 👍
The image is far better inside the goggles.
actually I think if you upload the footage in 4k and watch in 4k its pretty close. then watch youtube on an oled TV and you have something similar.
also when you do not crash no need to buy new parts I have a 3 ft policy ,, when I fly .. to avoid any crashes //
The jello looks like its the props
It's the camera mount. It's tpu which I'm never a fan off
Visionhmd goggles will bring down the cost significantly over the usual name brand FPV goggles.
Get fpv had fatshark scout hd that can be used
not sure anyone has stock of them anymore?
You lost me at 'very expensive', LOL.
fingers crossed for a replacement for the scouts eh?
A new low for youtube? Reported some obvious scammers, but youtube leaves their account up and only deletes their comments.
I mostly report them as "impersonators" and sometimes a second report for scamming. But when I report one that has a 1 year old account and youtube does not delete the account....it makes me wonder if youtube employees are part of this scam.
Yes I was very disappointed with their actions. Spent about an hour talking to one of their reps. This morning got a copy paste email of best practices. They have not deleted their accounts
Don,t use 90 deg connectors, they give horrible signal loss.
I'm aware that people say this and do tests etc however its also true having the patches so close to the VRX ruins the signal also which the original FS module has them sat inside the module. I flew the fatshark module and the hdzero module side by side and they performed the same?
nice vibrant image color but it lucks penetration :(
I find the opposite
Man, since DJI sent them a cease and dist order, I wouldn't touch this sytem with a ten foot pole. My speculation is that it's going to get abandoned quick for firmware updates and orphaned to the rubbish bin of history. I'm not even sure why ou would want it... it's just a firmware rip of the DJI system, only kludged to be.. worse? I hate the DJI goggles, but I can't see that these would offer anything better than perhaps different display screens and a smaller form factor. That's not worth going out way on a limb for and risking your investment IMHO.
I would be interested to see this "display box for streaming to TH-cam". It's probalby the goggles without the goggles, what I've been asking for, but the same terrible 100ms latency. Get your hands on one and see if you can fly to the video feed to it. If it's stable, if it's not latent as phwwwk. You can fly cinematic to 100ms, but you can't do aerobatics to it.
I very well may djump all my DJI crp for this thing.
I watied for the next gen DJI to come out with HDMI and they failed me twice.
Throw away those goggles, slap this thing on the back of an DHMI TV.
You don't want all that crrp and weight hanging off your face.
Do more man
Think my mind is made up! Never going dji and fatshark I may hold off on. Hdzero is way I'm going to be going for sure! Wait till the new goggles hit. But now I guess the rdq case got thrown out of court not to sure how much more money I'll drop into it till see what happens.
I think we will do what we always do. Ignore it and fly anyways. That's gonna be me
@@AndyRCchannel absolutely bro I'm right there with ya 🤜💯
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