In the 60s & 70s the young generations were taught to not trust the older generation via entertainment & so the generation gap became a Thing. We had an attitude as if we knew everything & the experienced ones were clueless.
I'm not ashamed of our history, however I am ashamed of certain current cultural trends and leadership. The people of the West are being abused by their leaders.
Amen to that . I was born in 1951 in a time when England was getting to it's feet after WW2 . My countrymen all believed in the good we had achieved by beating Hitler . I saw the swinging 60s where every one had a job and we exported our music and fashions and machinery to a third of the world. We went to Ska and Bluebeat parties and I was taught a trade and had some fantastic times in discos as a young person in the 1970s . And it breaks my heart to hear school children are taught we were a bunch of selfish dead beats who achieved nothing and stole from the world.
@@garypautard1069 Winning the war in WW2 seems to count for nothing - we are all included as being intrinsically bad. The constant narrative is aunty why te. Makes no difference where we are - UK, Ireland, Scandinavia, Australia, Canada, USA etc... Wherever we are, it's the same.
Living up to the standards of an accomplished high culture is hard. Easier to just defame it for its occasional missteps and wallow in depravity with no lofty standards to aspire to.
I wish we could dismiss non intellectual academics from univeristies. There are too many lecturers misrepresenting history or straight out lying, for political propoganda, yet they keep their posts. Proper education matters.
Your children will be fighting street battles with those calling them white colonists, racists, and insisting we abandon western science. All because we were caught sleeping and didn't see the threat of post-modernism bringing Marxism back to life.
I look at from a lineage point of view. Trauma passed down the line . Trauma accumulates. It is compounding . Stores in the body and mind. Some people are aware of it. Some deny. Some don't feel it . Some don't even go through anything or bury it so deep it doesn't register at all. I know I have it. And I use exercise, nutrition and comfort sensory enablers, surround myself with contentment items that are feel good to the five senses . Nice audio, smells, visuals, touches and tastes . That's about the best one can do . Avoid unnecessary risks . Like, I am not prepared to walk on egg shells for those who cannot handle home truths without running off and sulking and hitting the bottle and vapour sessions , because I haven't handed over an accolade or endorsement that isn't warranted or even deserved . As 🤔 that is what caused my own trauma. High maintenance sooks , tearing shreds off me because I wouldn't necessarily agree with their "creativity" . People use "creativity" as a form of medicine . It sets up codependency traps and, bad works . And compliance . As all these fractured, bleeding hearts want to channel their creativity in order to heal the wounded child, and wanting one and all to validate that inner "rock star" or "genius" right ? Only, they are simply not ! 😂 It upsets parents and friends and employers and many , when I say. Look, unless you're Taylor Swift, of today, or Mozart of yesteryears, don't delude yourself that you're a rockstar or anything special because, I am not up for playing that game. I cannot stand gaslighting. Being honest with yourself is an aide to healing trauma .
Beside all the outstanding achievements and contributions to human culture, there is also a very dark side to European history which new generations should certainly be educated about.
There is a very dark side to every society. Why are Europeans the only ones expected to wallow in guilt while everyone else gets to share credit for our achievements.
@@stanleyshannon4408 no one should wallow in guilt because of what happened in the past because no one is responsible for what those before them did. Nor should anyone be held accountable for the misdeeds of their predecessors. What matters is the present, the decisions and actions taken on our behalf by those elected to govern, and also our own attitudes and behaviour. We should celebrate the best in our culture, but we should also be aware of its flaws and acknowledge that not all of our past was glorious.
@miraladak2314 Western history has been entirely a process of recognizing flaws and acting to correct them and working towards a better society. But if you are going to address those flaws, the full context of the historic situation in which they occurred should be fully explored and understood, including our own moment in time. But if you do that, there will be very little time to teach anything but history. Therefore, it is best to simply teach children the basic highlights of their national history and let them explore the rest on their own as they feel the interest. If children are going to be propagandized, it should be towards a generally positive view of their ancestors' motivations and values.
That's the problem we're constantly being taught about our dark history and being ashamed of it and being ridiculed if we're proud of our achievements like other races don't have a dark past too, we have every right to be proud of our achievements yes we have a dark past like everyone else does but unlike everyone else we have great achievements too, I said unlike everyone else because NONE OF THE OTHER RACES HAVE DONE GREAT THINGS WITHOUT US.
I wonder if Mr Furedi will eventually "cross the Tiber." Personally, I see little hope for Europe without the renewal of the Catholic Church. Secular liberalism falls well short of the mark.
We should question the past, Operation Paperclip is always a good place to start. We should be ashamed of the present worshipping mediocrity, fame and war. Learned nothing!
To understand why socialists are like this, you should research: (1) What it is about a conversion to socialism that makes an academic socialists uber arrogant. (2) Understand why an arrogant attitude will always be prejudiced vs all that has ever mattered. ---> Think about it. :-)
Agree with you. When you mention socialists Uber arrogant. I’m not putting any down, just saying if anyone knows how Chinese people’s behave you’ll understand what socialism ,communism did to the people. To me Karl Marx is evil , ‘’MARXISM’’ and all men and women who have joined them are evils.
Listen, no matter for what reason i trace history - eg, MANCHESTER - the Cotton Industry , we have this 1780 date where there were ALOT of Children and babies - but , Orphans. Orphans in every factory , knocking out 14 hour days. Then 1840, life looks grand - photography is "invented" so, lots of photos taken ,, But also MUDFLOODED Cities - streets so wide it could be a highway But cars are not invented yet... 🤔 Then WWI, then 2 ,, and now we enter The 4th Revolution, the 4th Reich, and we dont even know what happened to the parents of all the orphans yet...
And Slaves - Irish sent to plantations in Caribbean (Sugar) and USA (Cotton) , but not allowed to work in plantations in Ireland. Fight that - and you are off to Australia mate.
A wise man learns from his own mistakes. A wiser man learns from the mistakes of others. Our parents taught my siblings and me to admire a wide variety of historical figures including politicians, inventors, explorers and religious leaders but there was only one person who they ever represented as without character flaws. Not only did our parents NOT encourage us to idolize Noah, Abraham, Moses, King David, Nebuchadnezzar, Daniel the prophet, Johannes Gutenberg, Christopher Columbus, Ferdinand Magellan, Martin Luther, Queen Elizabeth I, George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Abraham Lincoln, Henry Ford or Sir Edmond Hillary, etc, our parents even pointed out some of the character flaws of several of those people. Our parents were patriots but they never pretended that puritan society in the seventeenth century or North American society in the nineteenth century was ideal. They were not opposed to saluting the flag of the United States but they never taught us to “revere” it! It would be a mistake to over-react to the progressive generation. Going too far in the direction of ignoring the mistakes of the past can ruin any society just as easily as emphasizing only the mistakes of previous generations. If conservatives in the twenty-first century are anxious about the younger generation(s) disconnect with the past, they have themselves partly to blame for having interpreted the past through rose-tinted glasses. Another major mistake was the tendency to rely too heavily on “experts” for everything from food and housing to education. We could argue all day about which came first, the chicken or the egg - parents abdicating their responsibility for the education of their own children or approving a level of taxation that made it difficult for the average couple to devote sufficient time and effort to that aspect of raising children. Either way, however, many people decided keeping up with the Joneses was more important than educating their own children (or at least paying attention to what was being taught in public schools). How long has that been going on? If it has been for two generations, does that mean we will need to invest twice as much time and effort in the education of our children and grandchildren for at least as long as it took to bring society to such a deplorable condition as that in which we find ourselves?
History will never correctly be understood from history books or even religious books. History books describe notable events and people associated, human life in the world is much, much more than what gets recorded. It is foolish to base ones opinion of history from books, at best those can remove false narratives, malicious propagandas or misconceptions about some events and people of history but will never present the complete story. People, public populism have taken history books, religious books to unnecessary, unwarranted levels of inferences about history and the world is paying heavy price due to that, including but not limited to nature of colonial rule, nature of religious events, nature of empires, nature of medieval period, ancient periods, historical figures and so many other things. P.S: All of the major events,personalities of history were surely shaped by inoccuous, unnoticed, unrecorded apparently insignificant happenings and human beings and we have no idea of those because no one records insignificant happenings, no one likes to remember losers and their roles, no one cares to judge the nameless people and the part they played and their actions and yet we use historical knowledge to develop perceptions and base our judgements about things which happened thousands year back, and many people have become evil enough to take actions in present based on those perceptions. We certainly have not grown intelligent, we have become evil
The 1970s saw an event like a religious revival, but it was moral, not religious. So, white, straight, Christian men treating unfairly nonchristians, women, minorities, gays and disabled was wrong.
Oh yeah, Europeans define what being human is. It is technology that enabled them to conquer the world but then they cannot figure out planned obsolescence in automobiles half-a-century after the Moon landing. 😂
in War it casualties not victims; if one is a victim in War: it is due to your own stupidity of being civil not military to begin with; civil, is a United States Constitution Law Word and Form, Class and office, establish in Article I.6.2, Article II.4, and Amendment XIV.3, civil or military office, (ratified 9 July 1868);
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Education will forever be the first front to engage with the new generations. Whoever can influence them first will get to form the future first.
In the 60s & 70s the young generations were taught to not trust the older generation via entertainment & so the generation gap became a Thing. We had an attitude as if we knew everything & the experienced ones were clueless.
That train has already left the station. You people are not truthful to yourselves. And follow every tom, dick and harry allotted to you.
Wrong.
History teaches youth.
That is why Woke is changing it.
its all in the past get over it, have you nothing better to do than keep bringing this up
@@peterparsons3297 In your past lies your future. Understanding is the key to survival.
Brilliant, articulate mind.
I'm definitely not ashamed of my history or any history. History is history and I love history as it's fascinating.
I'm not ashamed of our history, however I am ashamed of certain current cultural trends and leadership. The people of the West are being abused by their leaders.
Shocking abuses are taking place and the drivers are ? Billionaires? Or the same ones who have always sought to destroy Christianity?
Education systems, politicians, mainstream media, the entertainment industry, corporations, the mommy culture?
Marxists, who use anti intellectualism (post modernism) to say that all knowledge is about power, and has no real basis.
I AM SO GLAD I AM 65! THANK GOD! THESE YOUNGSTERS IS ON THE ROAD TO NO WHERE!😢😢😢😢
Amen to that . I was born in 1951 in a time when England was getting to it's feet after WW2 . My countrymen all believed in the good we had achieved by beating Hitler . I saw the swinging 60s where every one had a job and we exported our music and fashions and machinery to a third of the world. We went to Ska and Bluebeat parties and I was taught a trade and had some fantastic times in discos as a young person in the 1970s . And it breaks my heart to hear school children are taught we were a bunch of selfish dead beats who achieved nothing and stole from the world.
@@garypautard1069 Winning the war in WW2 seems to count for nothing - we are all included as being intrinsically bad. The constant narrative is aunty why te. Makes no difference where we are - UK, Ireland, Scandinavia, Australia, Canada, USA etc... Wherever we are, it's the same.
I hope you old timers actually had kids and didn’t just let the state raise them…
@@JunkSockstate didn’t want to back then chum.
We are not ashamed of our people only the EU elite
Living up to the standards of an accomplished high culture is hard. Easier to just defame it for its occasional missteps and wallow in depravity with no lofty standards to aspire to.
I wish we could dismiss non intellectual academics from univeristies. There are too many lecturers misrepresenting history or straight out lying, for political propoganda, yet they keep their posts.
Proper education matters.
David Olusoga is their leader
Black Lies Matter.
Well I can assure you my kids and there’s are not ashamed one bit and very proud 🇬🇧
Your children will be fighting street battles with those calling them white colonists, racists, and insisting we abandon western science. All because we were caught sleeping and didn't see the threat of post-modernism bringing Marxism back to life.
I look at from a lineage point of view.
Trauma passed down the line .
Trauma accumulates.
It is compounding .
Stores in the body and mind.
Some people are aware of it.
Some deny.
Some don't feel it .
Some don't even go through anything or bury it so deep it doesn't register at all.
I know I have it.
And I use exercise, nutrition and comfort sensory enablers, surround myself with contentment items that are feel good to the five senses .
Nice audio, smells, visuals, touches and tastes .
That's about the best one can do .
Avoid unnecessary risks .
Like, I am not prepared to walk on egg shells for those who cannot handle home truths without running off and sulking and hitting the bottle and vapour sessions , because I haven't handed over an accolade or endorsement that isn't warranted or even deserved .
As 🤔 that is what caused my own trauma. High maintenance sooks , tearing shreds off me because I wouldn't necessarily agree with their "creativity" .
People use "creativity" as a form of medicine .
It sets up codependency traps and, bad works . And compliance . As all these fractured, bleeding hearts want to channel their creativity in order to heal the wounded child, and wanting one and all to validate that inner "rock star" or "genius" right ?
Only, they are simply not !
😂
It upsets parents and friends and employers and many , when I say.
Look, unless you're Taylor Swift, of today, or Mozart of yesteryears, don't delude yourself that you're a rockstar or anything special because, I am not up for playing that game.
I cannot stand gaslighting.
Being honest with yourself is an aide to healing trauma .
Beside all the outstanding achievements and contributions to human culture, there is also a very dark side to European history which new generations should certainly be educated about.
There is a very dark side to every society. Why are Europeans the only ones expected to wallow in guilt while everyone else gets to share credit for our achievements.
@@stanleyshannon4408 no one should wallow in guilt because of what happened in the past because no one is responsible for what those before them did. Nor should anyone be held accountable for the misdeeds of their predecessors. What matters is the present, the decisions and actions taken on our behalf by those elected to govern, and also our own attitudes and behaviour. We should celebrate the best in our culture, but we should also be aware of its flaws and acknowledge that not all of our past was glorious.
@miraladak2314 Western history has been entirely a process of recognizing flaws and acting to correct them and working towards a better society. But if you are going to address those flaws, the full context of the historic situation in which they occurred should be fully explored and understood, including our own moment in time. But if you do that, there will be very little time to teach anything but history. Therefore, it is best to simply teach children the basic highlights of their national history and let them explore the rest on their own as they feel the interest. If children are going to be propagandized, it should be towards a generally positive view of their ancestors' motivations and values.
That's the problem we're constantly being taught about our dark history and being ashamed of it and being ridiculed if we're proud of our achievements like other races don't have a dark past too, we have every right to be proud of our achievements yes we have a dark past like everyone else does but unlike everyone else we have great achievements too, I said unlike everyone else because NONE OF THE OTHER RACES HAVE DONE GREAT THINGS WITHOUT US.
@@miraladak2314which part of our past was not glorious
RACHEL:
Rejigging a Corporally Holistic Endospecie Levitability.
(GRAIL).
I wonder if Mr Furedi will eventually "cross the Tiber." Personally, I see little hope for Europe without the renewal of the Catholic Church. Secular liberalism falls well short of the mark.
It does seem difficult to accept the world as it is, and try to improve it, without also taking on board the consolation of religion.
❤👍
Will the conference videos be available on TH-cam?
We should question the past, Operation Paperclip is always a good place to start. We should be ashamed of the present worshipping mediocrity, fame and war.
Learned nothing!
You can start earlier.
@@antoniescargo1529I have, just saying good place to start if you want to know who's in charge.
To understand why socialists are like this, you should research: (1) What it is about a conversion to socialism that makes an academic socialists uber arrogant. (2) Understand why an arrogant attitude will always be prejudiced vs all that has ever mattered. ---> Think about it. :-)
Agree with you. When you mention socialists Uber arrogant. I’m not putting any down, just saying if anyone knows how Chinese people’s behave you’ll understand what socialism ,communism did to the people. To me Karl Marx is evil , ‘’MARXISM’’ and all men and women who have joined them are evils.
Listen, no matter for what reason i trace history - eg, MANCHESTER - the Cotton Industry , we have this 1780 date where there were ALOT of Children and babies - but , Orphans.
Orphans in every factory , knocking out 14 hour days.
Then
1840, life looks grand - photography is "invented" so, lots of photos taken ,,
But also MUDFLOODED Cities - streets so wide it could be a highway
But cars are not invented yet...
🤔
Then WWI, then 2 ,, and now we enter The 4th Revolution, the 4th Reich, and we dont even know what happened to the parents of all the orphans yet...
And Slaves - Irish sent to plantations in Caribbean (Sugar) and USA (Cotton) , but not allowed to work in plantations in Ireland.
Fight that - and you are off to Australia mate.
A wise man learns from his own mistakes. A wiser man learns from the mistakes of others.
Our parents taught my siblings and me to admire a wide variety of historical figures including politicians, inventors, explorers and religious leaders but there was only one person who they ever represented as without character flaws. Not only did our parents NOT encourage us to idolize Noah, Abraham, Moses, King David, Nebuchadnezzar, Daniel the prophet, Johannes Gutenberg, Christopher Columbus, Ferdinand Magellan, Martin Luther, Queen Elizabeth I, George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Abraham Lincoln, Henry Ford or Sir Edmond Hillary, etc, our parents even pointed out some of the character flaws of several of those people.
Our parents were patriots but they never pretended that puritan society in the seventeenth century or North American society in the nineteenth century was ideal. They were not opposed to saluting the flag of the United States but they never taught us to “revere” it!
It would be a mistake to over-react to the progressive generation. Going too far in the direction of ignoring the mistakes of the past can ruin any society just as easily as emphasizing only the mistakes of previous generations.
If conservatives in the twenty-first century are anxious about the younger generation(s) disconnect with the past, they have themselves partly to blame for having interpreted the past through rose-tinted glasses.
Another major mistake was the tendency to rely too heavily on “experts” for everything from food and housing to education. We could argue all day about which came first, the chicken or the egg - parents abdicating their responsibility for the education of their own children or approving a level of taxation that made it difficult for the average couple to devote sufficient time and effort to that aspect of raising children. Either way, however, many people decided keeping up with the Joneses was more important than educating their own children (or at least paying attention to what was being taught in public schools).
How long has that been going on? If it has been for two generations, does that mean we will need to invest twice as much time and effort in the education of our children and grandchildren for at least as long as it took to bring society to such a deplorable condition as that in which we find ourselves?
And many that are very proud of their history remember that
COMPLETELY DISAGREE!!;
WHAT WE HAVE IS GENERATIONS THAT CAN'T READ. HISTORY IS NOW OPEN TO INTERPRETATION. NO CRITICAL THINKING.
It was easy coz you consume alcohol and every binge is followed by self loathing.
History will never correctly be understood from history books or even religious books.
History books describe notable events and people associated, human life in the world is much, much more than what gets recorded.
It is foolish to base ones opinion of history from books, at best those can remove false narratives, malicious propagandas or misconceptions about some events and people of history but will never present the complete story.
People, public populism have taken history books, religious books to unnecessary, unwarranted levels of inferences about history and the world is paying heavy price due to that, including but not limited to nature of colonial rule, nature of religious events, nature of empires, nature of medieval period, ancient periods, historical figures and so many other things.
P.S: All of the major events,personalities of history were surely shaped by inoccuous, unnoticed, unrecorded apparently insignificant happenings and human beings and we have no idea of those because no one records insignificant happenings, no one likes to remember losers and their roles, no one cares to judge the nameless people and the part they played and their actions and yet we use historical knowledge to develop perceptions and base our judgements about things which happened thousands year back, and many people have become evil enough to take actions in present based on those perceptions.
We certainly have not grown intelligent, we have become evil
Only if you are Woke.
😂
The 1970s saw an event like a religious revival, but it was moral, not religious. So, white, straight, Christian men treating unfairly nonchristians, women, minorities, gays and disabled was wrong.
Crisis of identity? You mean they do not know their responsibility as citizens?
Sorry only yourself does
Oh yeah, Europeans define what being human is. It is technology that enabled them to conquer the world but then they cannot figure out planned obsolescence in automobiles half-a-century after the Moon landing. 😂
Moonlanding hoax 😅
@@antoniescargo1529
I do not pay attention to people claiming that the Moon landing was a hoax unless they can explain how a transistor works.
in War it casualties not victims; if one is a victim in War: it is due to your own stupidity of being civil not military to begin with;
civil, is a United States Constitution Law Word and Form, Class and office, establish in Article I.6.2, Article II.4, and Amendment XIV.3, civil or military office, (ratified 9 July 1868);