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Can confirm as a f2p player, finding a real person is like finding a unicorn. It's honestly kind of depressing, even when you're doing something they can't monopolize to ruin your experience.
I learnt fast the only way to make money in f2p is merching. Figure out what bots are making or getting and people actually buy. Then just be the middle man in the GE. You need to find something that has a high buy limit and high price. Then also has a reletively equal supply to demand. This way your trades execute quickly. I made more money in a few months doing this than I did in literally the 13 years of playing f2p before that. I did the item cooked tuna. Many bots and people sell it cheap because they are a byproduct of training not money making. Then alot of low level pure pvpers used tuna. I made around 150m in a matter of a few months. Started with maybe 2 to 5m. Again this was all f2p so pretty insane money.
@@mcfail3450 You can also make a few mil in a few days just by looking like the right kind of poor noob someplace like hill giants and responding to whatever rich member comes through looking for someone who isn't a bot to give anywhere between 500k and 1m. A lot of times they'll give you something like trimmed armor, but the value is usually somewhere in that range. Sadly, it doesn't take long to level up to the point where you don't look like such a helpless noob anymore, and people will usually pass you by. Though by that point you should have a few mil to start merching anyway, so you're set.
Bots farm the things we dont want to farm . We wont have to pay crazy prices on the simplest things. Also makes the game feel more poppin too, which I dont mind.@@aarons6935
I find it so crazy that a few years ago i got permabanned for autoclicking high alch yet there is thousands of bots continuously ruining this game and Jagex doesnt give a shit.
Considering it takes time to put these videos out, that mule would’ve been long gone days ago. You know the saying “if it’s too good to be true it probably is”
There's no reason to be too good to be true. He says in the video "the bot stopped giving gp to non bots and must have some kind of safe guard now". Unless just seeing the bot was your goal, what's too good to be true about it?
At this point Jagex should just hire you as part of the anti cheating team. Give you the ability to view an accounts trade history etc and ability to ban.
@@bamf6603 youd have to be a fucking idiot to think someone finding a botfarm and sending an email to someone deserves to be a mod MORE then the dude whos been bot busting for free for years, whos held trustable community events and has no scamming or toxicism history.
swear to God, I havent played in 2 years and i randomly watched this whole video. it was THAT interesting. Glad to see these bot farm investigations still alive, they're always entertaining. Happy holidays everyone
The undead druids have the same "cursing" bots training range. It felt like every few minutes while I was ranging there a bot would log-in, start killing the druids. Say the line "fk off" - "Come on" etc, etc and log out.
When you're trying to impersonate a bot to intercept mules like that try adding a character to the end of the name instead of changing the number. They may just check the length of the expected username rather than the whole thing. I.E. "purple1224" would look the same as "purple12240", much more likely to work than just changing a number. worked once for me with the zammy wine bots (lazy coding)
yeah it would have to be pretty stupid to check if the first 9 characters matched only rather than an exact match. it's literally more code to do that than to check if it matches exactly@@bmxscape
I have never coded in my life and even I know the difference between checking a "string" and an exact match. The bots could just be checking for the sequence of characters and not exact usernames (bot clients that read the screen instead of hook deep into the games code are the kinds that would do this).
I used to do the same thing. I remember how hard it was to get money back when I was young. But when I started my current main everybody was giving away free money it seemed. So once I actually got invested in the game I started giving back. But I've been away for so long. I didn't realize that 99% of who I was given the money to was probably bots. Kind of defeats the purpose.
most of the bots ive reported in the last couple months remain unbanned, they are truly not banning anyone right now, i also witnessed a guy real world trade for torva and then also pay someone to do his blood torva after i called him out on it, and he is unbanned. I think its pretty much over for the integrity of this game.
i purposely started botting in hopes of getting banned , i went from 60-91 wc in f2p at oak trees broadcasting 'im a bot you should report me , jagex doesnt do anything' and i was right lol. never banned
I tried to kill some revs today and literally had so many bots logging in I had 8 standing between 2 hobgoblins competing for the kill. They smack each other with goblin staffs then teleport out. Did they get rid of the anti cheat team when they sold the company this last time?
Carlyle group planning on selling soon. Higher player count (especially members) = more revenue, which in turn will increase the companies value on paper for a potential sale. They have little interest in banning bots right now.
The community should reach out to the prospective buyer and let them know of jagex's shadyness, then they could sue (? Idk uk court) for fraud. And yes, knowingly inflating your user numbers (esspecially by stopping or slowing down the banning of bots) to ensure a higher selling price constitutes as fraud.
10 years later and no real solutions for bots. In fact, it's only gotten worse. Safe to say they are just letting bots run at this point, probably because it looks good on metrics to show investors.
@bbcaptain3858 How am I supposed to be proud of anything with 10k bots hold all the high positions Edit: Can't even learn to pk with the ahk bots that 1 tick everything.
totally. I only want to play the temporary game modes like deadman and leagues because there are 0 bots in those. Otherwise the main game just feels cheap. ransacked economy and chat flooded with bot spam. Not a fun experience.
@@sylvariatzaka go play a singleplayer game, everyone already uses discord/reddit or whatever to talk even about runescape, noone actually talks ingame lol. Ever since ironman mode release this game is pointless to play as a normie unless you're a gold farmer.
Why? Bots are going to compete against you? No. You are going to be mad about the price of gold going down? Why? Are you going to see bots around you? No. You are not even going to notice the bots if you do normal stuff that is not good to be exploited by a bunch of bots, so i dont really get why not, you play the game, kill the bosses and enjoy everything else, bots will hurt black market gold price but not your gameplay.
I have found the bots that curse at you a bunch in the Forthos dungeon killing undead druids. All wearing black d'hide, glory and white god d'hide coif (i forget which one that is) mostly between level 85 and 90. Lot of bots in that location recently
Those aren't bots, I've been here for a bit to get 85 strength as opposed to NMZ and I met at least 12 accounts that all talk in spanish, it's just a decent goldfarming place.
There are also bots in the Edgeville dungeon on F2P. They wear some combo of rune armor and from what I saw, they train melee using the shared XP attack style. Melee is their only stat above 1. No idea what they're training for.
They are training to later be sold en masse, and those bots have been there literally for years. Well obviously not the same bots, but different iterations of them. Fairly certain Pugger has covered them before, but I could be wrong.
you train stats on f2p and then you rest the acc (dont play it for 2 weeks) and then you log in and if you dont get banned you transfer a bond and start botting pvm for gold.. i used to bot for like 10years +
@@johndc2998 all the public clients are detectable by jagex and all the clients will claim they are not but they 100% are.. if your gonna bot your best bet is a autoclicker since i assume you aint wanna spend thousands of usd on a privat client
imagine trying to sell to anyone that your game has a low player count.. they allow the bots so they can make money and show in the website how many "active" users are online at any point
This is all part of the edgeville smithing bot farm, as my tip suggested. These accounts get prime membership or stay f2p, making I presume steel bars, and get far above 99+ smithing before being banned.
there was an mmorpg recently i wanted to start playing, i think it was lost ark, and i only played it for a day or 2 after seeing huge amounts of low level bots and deciding i didnt want to get into in part because of that. very sad for jagex that this is the state of f2p while theyre also putting up record player numbers
This is why I think my level 3 skiller alt has been hit with bot flags. it's so sad seeing F2P this over run... I'm trying to grab coal for a steel smithing grind and there's often 5-7 bots grabbing coal in the Mining Guild.
I recently started on a new ironman since I've never played one. I enjoyed it for the first hours, but then I tried to make some money with mining and smithing iron items, trying to mine some iron at the Varrock mines, and it was pretty much impossible. All the accounts looked the same, their names were scrambled, they had no items except an air staff. Eventually gave up there and bonded the account to have other ways of earning some GP. Shit's pretty damn insane in F2P. I also reported all of these accounts, when I was there, but I don't think anything happened.
This. F2P is great until you need to mine. Mining is absolutely unfair with the way it works (and them not doing anything about the bots). They rely on that though, which is probably why they don't ban the F2P bots. It causes people to bond up.
Also if you haven’t seen the AHKing rev cave bots with the rsn series “Blackhat,” then you better because they’re out of this world. They 1t 5-way mage switches and even do fakies.
Thanks for covering the Guardians of the Rift partly. I emailed you about it last week :) but yours ended up being part of the other bot farm so probably not the same. They're all 45-65 and wearing a mind tiara with either their pants or shirt purple. No idea! Annoying because it locks out normal people from the 200 player cap it has. Thanks!
Runescape as a whole really is a shadow of what it used to be. OSRS has robots for like 50% of it's player count, and RS3 is microtransaction hellscape
It is bound to happen with the advancement of technology as a whole. The older outdated games will get overrun by the new technology. The game is still fun for me though, i dont really have any negative impacts from other people botting lol
@@Im2Artsy Has nothing to do with the technology mate, they're purposely not banning them. There is mountains and mountains of evidence to support this claim.
@@sylvariatzaka where is the proof and evidence of jagex not banning bots? When i botted years ago i got banned fairly quickly. And im sure there are many others in the comments here that have received a 2day ban or perm ban for botting/autoclicking at some point, even RWT. To say they purppsely dont ban them is an assumption based on nothing. Its part of their rules, they dont allow it. They try their best. You cant ban 5m bots created constantly by 500 different people all the time, some are bound to get through and make it to SirPuggers videos
It’s interesting. If we didn’t have bots, the player count would look very different. Instead of 300-400 players per FTP world - try 6-7. PTP, try 50-60. Another incentive for Jagex to let it go unchecked.
@@ProbablyTooPolitical Naw. I don't play runescape anymore because the bots were so bad in f2p as I was a f2p player. What's the point to play when bots everywhere making anything I try doing worthless when they can farm everything for more and sell it for cheaper with no time wasted on actually doing it? This is why I hate when people tell others to play this game. It's just full of botters. Even reddit has a forum for botting on runescape which just shows me how little the community seems to care.
@@novaangle2183 The community cares we just can't do shit. People literally make a living off the game and that's why there are bots. I believe people in jagex have made millions from it or else it would have been stopped a long time ago. People like me though, we play for the nostalgia and to kill shit with the boys. RuneScape is a lot more satisfying as an iron. The point is to have fun and there's plenty of ways to have fun if you're in a clan or have made friends.
Alot of the bots i noticed trained earlier combat on the giant rats/frogs in south lumbridge swamp. Almost every world has 3 or 4 people training in that odd spot lol i see it all the time hunting stars in f2p
There's lots of level 18 yew wood cutting bots in most of the free to play worlds but in world 437 I think it is theres a level 45 in the edgeville bank trading all of them
I found few locations with A LOT of bots in F2P 1.) Asgarnian Ice Dungeon 2.) Yew trees east Grand Exchange & Edgeville 3.) Christmas Event which is worth around 450k while writing this 4.) Monastery Monks
Jagex just doesn't care. They've had 10 years to solve this problem and honestly it's only become worse. They must want the bots in the game because it boosts the player count and looks good on paper. They wouldn't have been able to advertise hitting 200k players during Leagues if the bots weren't there to inflate the number.
Runescape was my first love when it came to games, and was indeed what got me interested in the internet in the first place (I was a sheltered, poor kid growing up; I saw kids playing at the city library). I left when it wanted to become a WoW clone, and now it looks like it's dying from infestation.
I mean I could have told you that Jagex has just given up on F2P OSRS a LONG time ago, and I can't overly blame them. If you spend to much time banning F2P bots, that teaches botters how to get around the bot detection on their members bots, and seeing as more real players play with membership because OSRS has basically no content in F2P, they are focusing their efforts on stopping or slowing members bots, though even that isn't totally effective because lets be real, it is bad for Jagex's bottom line to stop botting entirely.
Its around 100 bots/hour teleporting to ge in revent killing geare in world 514: Amulet of avris/Phoenix necklece Black dhide chaps Magic shortbow/Magic shotbow(i) Snakeskinn boots Black dhide body Bracelets of ethereum avas accumulator Snakekin bandana
Most gaming corporations have discovered that players will still play even if bots are left to run things. Blizzard learned this a long time ago, and now Jagex is learning too. Here's the solution, if you don't like bots, don't play. If enough people quit due to bots, they will deal with them, and not before.
Ello there pug Also all these bots having long lifespans... With recent trident incident, making me think there are more corrupt jmods on the team, and simply doesn't ban bots anymore and the jmods at this point also have bots and rwt.
Corrupt Jmods seem to after all this time still be a thing, Jagex as a company has hardly any idea is happening. After three confirmed cases. As, after all - who would risk real life legal action and their job for some pixels? Zooming out though, considering how much money is swimming around in the RWT circle, it should be no wonder that these same individuals make a risk-reward assessment and think it's worth their time to try infiltrating the "bank" as if it were. Getting caught and penalized is small potatoes compared to the potential profits as long as they play their hands carefully enough. It to me feels like no one at Jagex really seems to take seriously just how much money RWT actually generates, and thus that infiltrating the "bank" as if it were, can present a very tempting option. After all, even if caught, fined, and penalized - the person can just change their name, start up another bot farm, and off they go. Though, I don't believe there is an armada of corrupt Jmods, because no direct evidence for such exists. There are also several - though incredibly unsatisfying potential answers-for why the bots and rwt persists as an issue. Most of them have to do with limited resources, a very old game code, and the ease of operations for the botter rwt'ers. Also, a lack of consequences for RWT operators. Which also means corporate meddling cannot be ruled out as locking anti-botting efforts hands behind their backs - though I think it more a case of nobody in upper management understand, caring, or realizing the true scope and scale of the problem. As well as just how much money is involved, looping back to the potential issue of infiltration. Noting here also, the current penalty of bans only work if the people being targeted by them have some emotional investment or care about Runescape (fear of losing an account.) To botters it's literally just a money print. Most of them probably are past the point of caring or playing. Banning accounts means nothing as they behind the screen are immune from the biggest penalty Jagex has short of somehow taking legal action. At this point it's probable a lot of botters and rwt'ers have very little emotional investment and ban is just a "do not pass go - do not collect 200%" card on the board. A minor inconvenience, hurdle, and no issue for them to sort out. And that means it's from their point of view a very low risk, lucrative operation that generates insane revenue streams. No longer just hobbyists or rule breakers - but low tier cyber criminals out to make money using professional grade operations in terms of pay off.
Its obvious they've been abusing bots on their own game to make irl money to the addicted gamblers that consume it. The facade that there's any new players is atrocious. Only people who play osrs are gamblers and streamers. Just looks like there's people playing
@@bbcaptain3858 The magic thing such a bold claim needs is proof. Innocent until proven guilty and all that. Conjecture alone goes into conspiratorial whisperings' territory, and I think with such it's best to be a bit cautious.
Jagex don’t care about bots anymore sadly, they’re just interested to sell the game! But they don’t know we can tuck them if we all stop playing and renewing our membership
Huh interesting to see the bots evolving in Runescape like they did back in diablo 2, those Bots were fun to run and watch play. Wonder about the Wilderness Bot farms that go undetected.
i was doing a tileman on free to play and there are like 20+ bots in every world with firestaffs that walk between lumbridge bank and the furnace in lumbridge, crafting I assume emerald necklaces and alching them on the walk back... they do not use run so its pretty slow gp/h but there are a ton of them and they probably mule the GP after a while...
There is quite a lot of F2P bots at the Goblins in the Asgarnian Ice Dungeon training combat most of them are around level 60, and then some at teh start fighting mobs as well that seem to be bots. I am not sure what they are doing there, but I think they might be training to bot in p2p.
they train in f2p because play time = less ban. So they start the accounts in f2p and if they dont get banned after training a bunch of combat, some f2p skills like wcing, firemaking etc, and they get a month or so of playtime, then they get them members and full send work towards bossing.
Jagex probably knows and doesnt respond to your reports of the f2p bots for obvious reasons. Imagine 80% of ur population suddenly disappears, not a good image. Jagex probably lowkey hates these videos
So what? Even then it’s impressive how many people play this game. RS as a whole has been around for about 2 decades so I fail to understand this argument. Even 5k real people is impressive for a game like this.
Every non-TL f2p world has a bot on the mining guild iron rocks 24/7. Not the most interesting, but they've been there for an absurd amount of time and the accounts don't get banned very quickly because most have over 80 mining. The Al Kharid mine also has usually around 10 bots all doing slightly different things.
it would be even easier to code the mule to only accept a trade if it was offered a stackable item, like 1 air rune for example, which each bot automatically has upon logging in and finishing tutorial island. Something like a passcode.
@@shinobuoshino5066 I could see a world where 1 bot stores that data on instantiation of the account/tutorial island creation, however, it would be less code and more elegant to just take an air/mind rune or something. Less code > better result
@@shinobuoshino5066 nah. Less secure? Probably, but no one knows what items the bots and mules are trading so it's nearly impossible for someone who has no idea what is going on.
I saw a bunch of bots last night CB 40 all with 70 magic running in through the wilderness gate in the Edgeville dungeon. Can’t remember which world but it was a members server. Didn’t pay too much attention to it but after watching this I wish I did.
F2p osrs is unplayable. My first experience with iron man mode and osrs in years was ruined because it was damn near impossible to actually get XP in several skills since literally every single skilling spot on the map is infested with 5 billion bots. I honestly believe jagex either runs the farms themselves or allows it to entice people to p2p.
Been playing F2P on the HCIM, and Ive seen the mining bots in the dwarven mine. I figured they must be bots, because I kept seeing many different names, but all of them kept saying roughly the same things. One time I was using the Lumbridge Home Teleport, leaving, and still got the same response after telling the bot they could have the spot xD Ive also noticed LOADS of bots cutting Oak Trees right outside of the Falador East Bank. They might be the same lvl 13s though.
@@coolbassguy yes it does. If Jagex really wanted the bots banned they could do it. At this point though the economy almost needs the bots to maintain prices. It all the bots left the game, a lot of prices would fluctuate. Jagex can see every trade thats processed in the game, they know who trades who. They need to find a better way to control this.
I've been fishing anglers on my hcim skiller since before leagues came out. There are bots there with 99+ fishing (some with 35m+ fishing exp) And bots I reported well over a month ago still aren't banned.
Here's the twist! Remugarn is really Jagex, and they were secretly supplying starter gold to all accounts who traded. SirPugger took advantage of it, so Jagex changed the code. Now, only bots can use it now since they never were never greedy and only ever traded once.
bots casually making it to 900+ in f2p without being banned is so insanely frustrating when I'm taking absolutely forever just to get to 800. It makes me so tempted to just make a botting account to shortcut a lot of the grinding
@zeke1220 i've personally botted from 100m to 6.7b during the toa bot spree. While it's not as satisfying , i'd say that after that margin of profit never having to worry about gp ever again due to having max gear + about 300m in supplies means i don't have to worry as much about moneymaking and can afford to actually do efficient bossing. During that span the acc i botted went from base 70s to maxed combat also which made me an alt to do alt scape onto
i saw something similar a few months ago when i was leveling a character at the chaos druids in the taverley dungeon. full adamant, a scimitar, a shield and same level using incoherent names
These f2p bots just don't get banned because it will greatly impact the "player" count and also the buying and selling of bonds. Real players buy up bonds These bots end up buying it, especially now that you can buy a 14 day CODE DIRECTLY IN GAME. It's actually absurd that they tailor to bots and RWT. Reminds me of someone saying something like, 60% bots, 30% alts, 10% players. Numbers are off but you get the idea.
Guess the botter didn't bother to simply keep a database over his accounts and have his bot read the player name that wanted to trade with them. He probably implemented such system now, Im sure he appreciates your help in improving his system and all it cost him was a small fraction of his daily production.
Over the last 1-3 months I've found a bunch of bots at the Rellekka Slayer Cave farming Kurask. Most of these are high lvl PvM accounts around level 100+ with full obsidian armor. Most of the bots I've reported have not been banned at all. I highly suspect these accounts are botted just sell the accounts.
About half a year or so ago I played a bit of OSRS for the first time and like in the video, there were these trains of bots doing stuff in and around Falador in F2P. I really wonder why there's not a few people whose job it is to sit in these bot hot spots and just completely delete these accounts entirely, or why they don't kill F2P servers for a while out of the blue and clean up the GE.
the biggest reason why I love this game is the player driven gameplay. theres no other game I know of where you can find such unique occurrences as a normal player.
VERY NICE TRICK! Putting your screen, even though it's just pickpocketing a mule, in with your AD. I sat through without skipping the AD, pretty sneaky sis.
Probably not necessary. If you stop banning botting all together there will likely be plenty of bots made by random people to accomplish a higher population.
@@sylvariatzaka It's more than just population, most those bots would be just a stacked tile/area doing something like lobster fishing or logs like the bot in this vid. I'm talking about ones that seem to play the whole game and do random things like kill monsters in a weird place or smelt shit in fally
@@jordant764tbh mate there are literally complete bot scripts you can just run right now that play the game like this, a quest here and there etc and they never get caught. Likelihood is it’s just some geezer levelling up accounts in f2p for a bigger member end goal like vorkath or some shit
After 20+ years of Runescape I refuse to believe that there hasn't been a more efficient solution to the bot problem. Either Jagex don't care, or they're making money from them. This should not still be a thing.
so ive been messing around with a lot of my older (kinda throwaway) f2p accs slowly switching all them over to the new jagex login thingy. anywho, one of those is a baby obby mauler, i havent got it mems ever, so i just kinda vibe in f2p randomly. so anyways, i was looking for a place to train in f2p that wasnt cows. as you can imagine, trying to find a fun place in f2p with 1 atk/def is not the easiest. but i remembered the muggers on the way to skele wyvs. they are like lvl6, i was like huh wonder if those would work. apparently i am not the only one that thought so cause i ran into multiple bots across different f2p worlds. i think this is a training hotspot for someones bot farm. anywho, it made me think of you, lmao. thanks for the vid
The bots aren't "beating" Jagex's bot detection system, Jagex is likely letting them stay active to train the bot detection system. If you yourself can detect them as bots, Jagex is also detecting them. The thing is, sometimes it's better not to let the botters know you've detected them so you can watch what they're doing
@@andrueanderson8637 Yes! They have done that for 20+ years. All the 1000s of bots are detected, just still learning from them... Also the ones that run for months and RWT.
I hope this theory is correct, and it’s not just Jagex short staffing their anti-cheating team while also intentionally keeping player count high to artificially inflate their worth while trying to either sell or become a public stock. I’d still be okay with the latter if it turns out your idea is still correct and they are training a better bot detection system.
Yeah I understand that but the training time takes too long for Jagex- I routinely catch large scale bots with 50-100m xp in like ranged just PvMing a mid level monster. If all it takes is to tweak a script slightly to go unbanned for another 3-6 months after jagex finally trained the model & banned you, you need to improve!
It’s the reason I quit playing. Anywhere in the game you can log in and find a player that will stay there for a week straight and just do that skill on the same tile. Jagex should be embarrassed what this games become
I’m thinking of quitting myself although I came back 2 months ago. I struggle to make a pure while playing 2-4hrs a day. I’m barely 70 stats while these bots have the perfect pure stats easily. 50-60 attack, 99 str, range, mage. 99 is easy for these bots.
Theres a bunch of bots at hill giants in each world too. they wear addy armor with dhide legs while using range without safespotting then alch the drops
The amount of bots in osrs is actually insane. I'd love to see Jagex do a bot nuke to see how much the player counts plummet. My long-standing theory is that bots make up a significant enough amount of the playerbase, that actually doing something about them would kill the game because of lost revenue. Let's not forget that the lost revenue from the original bot nuke was the reason squeal happened. If the rumors of Jagex looking to be sold are true, then the inflated player numbers from bots also looks good to investors.
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W308 clanwars..... I emailed you months ago but still not checked.... multiple bot farns training mage and range in clan wars
You need to find you a team of like minded individuals, and start a vigilante bot hunting group. At some point Jagex will start paying you.
I know you need money, but partnering with WG is just terrible
@@TonyC2328 let the man make his bag
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Think the owners of these dodgy general stores get a cut of the gp to keep quiet?
Can confirm as a f2p player, finding a real person is like finding a unicorn. It's honestly kind of depressing, even when you're doing something they can't monopolize to ruin your experience.
Yea. Just started playing again and found 5 whole real people in a week lol
This is why I haven't come back to play.
I learnt fast the only way to make money in f2p is merching.
Figure out what bots are making or getting and people actually buy.
Then just be the middle man in the GE. You need to find something that has a high buy limit and high price. Then also has a reletively equal supply to demand. This way your trades execute quickly.
I made more money in a few months doing this than I did in literally the 13 years of playing f2p before that.
I did the item cooked tuna. Many bots and people sell it cheap because they are a byproduct of training not money making. Then alot of low level pure pvpers used tuna.
I made around 150m in a matter of a few months. Started with maybe 2 to 5m. Again this was all f2p so pretty insane money.
@@mcfail3450 You can also make a few mil in a few days just by looking like the right kind of poor noob someplace like hill giants and responding to whatever rich member comes through looking for someone who isn't a bot to give anywhere between 500k and 1m. A lot of times they'll give you something like trimmed armor, but the value is usually somewhere in that range.
Sadly, it doesn't take long to level up to the point where you don't look like such a helpless noob anymore, and people will usually pass you by. Though by that point you should have a few mil to start merching anyway, so you're set.
Capitalism kills
Bro continuing to drain the mule while rolling the sponsor ad is the funniest shit I’ve seen all month 😂😂😂
😂😂
bro doesnt even turn off his trade delay in settings -_- lmao wtf
@@cIeetzIt's funny because just as I was reading this he turned it off 😭 2:35
Meanwhile Jagex flexes record number of players statistics to their investors while all of F2P is just bots lol
Legit, then perm ban ppl for macroing agility. Game is dead af
@@brettblasterGames far from dead but there's no arguing the bots are wild.
Bots farm the things we dont want to farm . We wont have to pay crazy prices on the simplest things. Also makes the game feel more poppin too, which I dont mind.@@aarons6935
Enron 2.0 lol cooking the books.
@@jameshartley95 Enron 2.0 was FTX, but you can have Enron 0.8.5 ;)
I find it so crazy that a few years ago i got permabanned for autoclicking high alch yet there is thousands of bots continuously ruining this game and Jagex doesnt give a shit.
At this point they are running the game and is the only reason why jagex wont do something about them all.
Should have just paid $10 for a script, everyone knows auto click is ban
Should have just paid $10 for a script, everyone knows auto click is ban
Should have just paid $10 for a script, everyone knows auto click is ban
Should have just paid $10 for a script, everyone knows auto click is ban
Anyone else went straight to w546 to check if the mule is still there just to see 20 guys being there for the same reason?
Considering it takes time to put these videos out, that mule would’ve been long gone days ago. You know the saying “if it’s too good to be true it probably is”
Me
Plot twist: you were actually there to mule
There's no reason to be too good to be true. He says in the video "the bot stopped giving gp to non bots and must have some kind of safe guard now". Unless just seeing the bot was your goal, what's too good to be true about it?
@@hellboyj31what are you smoking?
At this point Jagex should just hire you as part of the anti cheating team. Give you the ability to view an accounts trade history etc and ability to ban.
What anti cheating team? They support the bots.
They purposely want bots to inflate player counts to sell the company for more money.
but he does it for free
he is not the one who found this bot farm somebody else told him about this. promote to jagex moderators the other player
@@bamf6603 youd have to be a fucking idiot to think someone finding a botfarm and sending an email to someone deserves to be a mod MORE then the dude whos been bot busting for free for years, whos held trustable community events and has no scamming or toxicism history.
swear to God, I havent played in 2 years and i randomly watched this whole video. it was THAT interesting. Glad to see these bot farm investigations still alive, they're always entertaining. Happy holidays everyone
Wow. Cool.
You to happy holidays my brother
@@chrishandsome6542Why don’t you have seat right here.
I'd be much happier to see there would be no more bot investigations, cause they are no more
How is it interesting? It's literally Jagex just not doing their job. The end.
The undead druids have the same "cursing" bots training range. It felt like every few minutes while I was ranging there a bot would log-in, start killing the druids. Say the line "fk off" - "Come on" etc, etc and log out.
Thats not a bot v2 hes a youtuber
The funniest part is going to 546 to not see the bot trading gp, but all the folks that watched the video and wanted their free gp lol.
😂
Am I too late
pugger always publishes videos after whatever is wrong has been fixed or stopped working
When you're trying to impersonate a bot to intercept mules like that try adding a character to the end of the name instead of changing the number. They may just check the length of the expected username rather than the whole thing. I.E. "purple1224" would look the same as "purple12240", much more likely to work than just changing a number. worked once for me with the zammy wine bots (lazy coding)
Quality comment right here thank u
@@bmxscapewho pissed in your Cheerios? Damn
@@bmxscapeit’s just something else to try on some lazy bot coder. Doesn’t hurt to try my guy
yeah it would have to be pretty stupid to check if the first 9 characters matched only rather than an exact match. it's literally more code to do that than to check if it matches exactly@@bmxscape
I have never coded in my life and even I know the difference between checking a "string" and an exact match. The bots could just be checking for the sequence of characters and not exact usernames (bot clients that read the screen instead of hook deep into the games code are the kinds that would do this).
I was giving away gp as a Christmas gift, and it took me damn near 10 minutes each time to find a real nooby player to give it to instead of a bot.
the nooby player: ungrateful beggar challenge
U could've help me out lol I'm a lv 8 😢
I used to do the same thing. I remember how hard it was to get money back when I was young. But when I started my current main everybody was giving away free money it seemed. So once I actually got invested in the game I started giving back. But I've been away for so long. I didn't realize that 99% of who I was given the money to was probably bots. Kind of defeats the purpose.
most of the bots ive reported in the last couple months remain unbanned, they are truly not banning anyone right now, i also witnessed a guy real world trade for torva and then also pay someone to do his blood torva after i called him out on it, and he is unbanned. I think its pretty much over for the integrity of this game.
i purposely started botting in hopes of getting banned , i went from 60-91 wc in f2p at oak trees broadcasting 'im a bot you should report me , jagex doesnt do anything' and i was right lol. never banned
And yet, I make a new account, video recording my progress, and I get banned for macroing.
It's disgusting.
I tried to kill some revs today and literally had so many bots logging in I had 8 standing between 2 hobgoblins competing for the kill. They smack each other with goblin staffs then teleport out. Did they get rid of the anti cheat team when they sold the company this last time?
Heard a rumor that some of the anti cheat team are the ones running bot farms... amongst other shady dealings.
@@jamiesmalley6003Rumour? Lol dude. It's a fact. It was literally brought to light with screenshots.
@@MCshadr217 where did you get this information
Carlyle group planning on selling soon. Higher player count (especially members) = more revenue, which in turn will increase the companies value on paper for a potential sale. They have little interest in banning bots right now.
The community should reach out to the prospective buyer and let them know of jagex's shadyness, then they could sue (? Idk uk court) for fraud. And yes, knowingly inflating your user numbers (esspecially by stopping or slowing down the banning of bots) to ensure a higher selling price constitutes as fraud.
10 years later and no real solutions for bots. In fact, it's only gotten worse. Safe to say they are just letting bots run at this point, probably because it looks good on metrics to show investors.
cry more
@@peacefulchao5quiet nerd
@@peacefulchao5 🤡
@@peacefulchao5if you don’t see what’s wrong with this, you’re also part of the problem.
I promise you, botting is in every single game because there is absolutely NO end all solution to it.
This kills any desire I have to play this game anymore
Thats what I'm saying. Start a new account log on and see 100 bots and 1 real played that thinks you're a bot.
@bbcaptain3858 How am I supposed to be proud of anything with 10k bots hold all the high positions
Edit: Can't even learn to pk with the ahk bots that 1 tick everything.
totally. I only want to play the temporary game modes like deadman and leagues because there are 0 bots in those.
Otherwise the main game just feels cheap. ransacked economy and chat flooded with bot spam. Not a fun experience.
@@sylvariatzaka go play a singleplayer game, everyone already uses discord/reddit or whatever to talk even about runescape, noone actually talks ingame lol. Ever since ironman mode release this game is pointless to play as a normie unless you're a gold farmer.
Why? Bots are going to compete against you? No. You are going to be mad about the price of gold going down? Why? Are you going to see bots around you? No. You are not even going to notice the bots if you do normal stuff that is not good to be exploited by a bunch of bots, so i dont really get why not, you play the game, kill the bosses and enjoy everything else, bots will hurt black market gold price but not your gameplay.
I have found the bots that curse at you a bunch in the Forthos dungeon killing undead druids. All wearing black d'hide, glory and white god d'hide coif (i forget which one that is) mostly between level 85 and 90. Lot of bots in that location recently
Armadyl
Those aren't bots, I've been here for a bit to get 85 strength as opposed to NMZ and I met at least 12 accounts that all talk in spanish, it's just a decent goldfarming place.
There are also bots in the Edgeville dungeon on F2P. They wear some combo of rune armor and from what I saw, they train melee using the shared XP attack style. Melee is their only stat above 1. No idea what they're training for.
They are training to later be sold en masse, and those bots have been there literally for years. Well obviously not the same bots, but different iterations of them. Fairly certain Pugger has covered them before, but I could be wrong.
prepping for bossing
you train stats on f2p and then you rest the acc (dont play it for 2 weeks) and then you log in and if you dont get banned you transfer a bond and start botting pvm for gold.. i used to bot for like 10years +
@@FameOfMaintenancewhich client is best
@@johndc2998 all the public clients are detectable by jagex and all the clients will claim they are not but they 100% are.. if your gonna bot your best bet is a autoclicker since i assume you aint wanna spend thousands of usd on a privat client
When I talked about bots on my channel people called me a cry baby and a loser for caring😭 glad that you’re letting them know how bad it is!
Guaranteed anyone who says this about those of us who are against bots are botters themselves.
SirPugger is slowly gaining bot farm knowledge for the day he creates the ultimate bot and reveals himself as the true Villian.
Doing more to uncover bots than runescape mods ever would
imagine trying to sell to anyone that your game has a low player count.. they allow the bots so they can make money and show in the website how many "active" users are online at any point
@THEGRAVEDEAGLE yeah of course, rumor has it that they're trying to sell the company and the active players numbers are up with the bots so why bother
@@THEGRAVEDEAGLEnot really bit i like the tinfoil hat vibes
This is all part of the edgeville smithing bot farm, as my tip suggested.
These accounts get prime membership or stay f2p, making I presume steel bars, and get far above 99+ smithing before being banned.
Sure you did bud.
@@aarons6935what does this even mean
there was an mmorpg recently i wanted to start playing, i think it was lost ark, and i only played it for a day or 2 after seeing huge amounts of low level bots and deciding i didnt want to get into in part because of that. very sad for jagex that this is the state of f2p while theyre also putting up record player numbers
record bot numbers
Just came back from a 4 year hiatus and the game feels a lot more empty to me then it did just a couple of years ago.
This is why I think my level 3 skiller alt has been hit with bot flags. it's so sad seeing F2P this over run... I'm trying to grab coal for a steel smithing grind and there's often 5-7 bots grabbing coal in the Mining Guild.
Yep... Going through the same thing.
I expect to be banned soon. On my iron account even.
I recently started on a new ironman since I've never played one. I enjoyed it for the first hours, but then I tried to make some money with mining and smithing iron items, trying to mine some iron at the Varrock mines, and it was pretty much impossible. All the accounts looked the same, their names were scrambled, they had no items except an air staff. Eventually gave up there and bonded the account to have other ways of earning some GP. Shit's pretty damn insane in F2P. I also reported all of these accounts, when I was there, but I don't think anything happened.
Bro, same. Made a new account for OSRS and trying to mine near Varrock is completely impossible. The bots are on every F2P server
This. F2P is great until you need to mine. Mining is absolutely unfair with the way it works (and them not doing anything about the bots).
They rely on that though, which is probably why they don't ban the F2P bots. It causes people to bond up.
Also if you haven’t seen the AHKing rev cave bots with the rsn series “Blackhat,” then you better because they’re out of this world. They 1t 5-way mage switches and even do fakies.
Thanks for covering the Guardians of the Rift partly. I emailed you about it last week :) but yours ended up being part of the other bot farm so probably not the same. They're all 45-65 and wearing a mind tiara with either their pants or shirt purple. No idea! Annoying because it locks out normal people from the 200 player cap it has. Thanks!
Runescape as a whole really is a shadow of what it used to be. OSRS has robots for like 50% of it's player count, and RS3 is microtransaction hellscape
There were a lot of bots in 2007 too
It is bound to happen with the advancement of technology as a whole. The older outdated games will get overrun by the new technology. The game is still fun for me though, i dont really have any negative impacts from other people botting lol
@@Im2Artsy Has nothing to do with the technology mate, they're purposely not banning them. There is mountains and mountains of evidence to support this claim.
@@sylvariatzaka where is the proof and evidence of jagex not banning bots? When i botted years ago i got banned fairly quickly. And im sure there are many others in the comments here that have received a 2day ban or perm ban for botting/autoclicking at some point, even RWT. To say they purppsely dont ban them is an assumption based on nothing. Its part of their rules, they dont allow it. They try their best. You cant ban 5m bots created constantly by 500 different people all the time, some are bound to get through and make it to SirPuggers videos
This is far from a new concept
Bruh when did the bots start getting wild with their haircuts lmao
It’s interesting. If we didn’t have bots, the player count would look very different. Instead of 300-400 players per FTP world - try 6-7. PTP, try 50-60. Another incentive for Jagex to let it go unchecked.
Nah members are filled with people.
Everyone always talks.
F2P is destroying any new players chance at playing the game.
@@ProbablyTooPolitical Naw. I don't play runescape anymore because the bots were so bad in f2p as I was a f2p player. What's the point to play when bots everywhere making anything I try doing worthless when they can farm everything for more and sell it for cheaper with no time wasted on actually doing it? This is why I hate when people tell others to play this game. It's just full of botters. Even reddit has a forum for botting on runescape which just shows me how little the community seems to care.
@@novaangle2183 The community cares we just can't do shit. People literally make a living off the game and that's why there are bots.
I believe people in jagex have made millions from it or else it would have been stopped a long time ago.
People like me though, we play for the nostalgia and to kill shit with the boys.
RuneScape is a lot more satisfying as an iron.
The point is to have fun and there's plenty of ways to have fun if you're in a clan or have made friends.
As someone who mains a f2p acc, thank you for spotlighting this
Stuff like that scares me. It would be cool to abuse, but im afraid my account would get flagged/banned.
It will
Lmao it’s embarrassing that you’re even considering botting the game. Play another game if it’s this unbearable for you.
Alot of the bots i noticed trained earlier combat on the giant rats/frogs in south lumbridge swamp.
Almost every world has 3 or 4 people training in that odd spot lol i see it all the time hunting stars in f2p
I am training there myself (legit) for the big bones. On mobile so I don't chat with the other but those seems to be (ranger) bots.
The video was up 10 minutes before this place turned into a SirPuggers Party
Anyone else just learn you can scroll when right clicking stacks?
Ty for what you do sir pugger!
There's lots of level 18 yew wood cutting bots in most of the free to play worlds but in world 437 I think it is theres a level 45 in the edgeville bank trading all of them
I found few locations with A LOT of bots in F2P
1.) Asgarnian Ice Dungeon
2.) Yew trees east Grand Exchange & Edgeville
3.) Christmas Event which is worth around 450k while writing this
4.) Monastery Monks
Jagex just doesn't care. They've had 10 years to solve this problem and honestly it's only become worse. They must want the bots in the game because it boosts the player count and looks good on paper. They wouldn't have been able to advertise hitting 200k players during Leagues if the bots weren't there to inflate the number.
"Make sure to like sub" how about you make sure to get rid of the sin of greed
Runescape was my first love when it came to games, and was indeed what got me interested in the internet in the first place (I was a sheltered, poor kid growing up; I saw kids playing at the city library). I left when it wanted to become a WoW clone, and now it looks like it's dying from infestation.
I mean I could have told you that Jagex has just given up on F2P OSRS a LONG time ago, and I can't overly blame them. If you spend to much time banning F2P bots, that teaches botters how to get around the bot detection on their members bots, and seeing as more real players play with membership because OSRS has basically no content in F2P, they are focusing their efforts on stopping or slowing members bots, though even that isn't totally effective because lets be real, it is bad for Jagex's bottom line to stop botting entirely.
Its around 100 bots/hour teleporting to ge in revent killing geare in world 514:
Amulet of avris/Phoenix necklece
Black dhide chaps
Magic shortbow/Magic shotbow(i)
Snakeskinn boots
Black dhide body
Bracelets of ethereum
avas accumulator
Snakekin bandana
Most gaming corporations have discovered that players will still play even if bots are left to run things. Blizzard learned this a long time ago, and now Jagex is learning too. Here's the solution, if you don't like bots, don't play. If enough people quit due to bots, they will deal with them, and not before.
LMAOO. You really think that’s gonna do anything??? You’re delusional.
There's a massive bot farm in the wyvern dungeon with full mith and addy around level 50s
Ello there pug
Also all these bots having long lifespans... With recent trident incident, making me think there are more corrupt jmods on the team, and simply doesn't ban bots anymore and the jmods at this point also have bots and rwt.
Corrupt Jmods seem to after all this time still be a thing, Jagex as a company has hardly any idea is happening. After three confirmed cases. As, after all - who would risk real life legal action and their job for some pixels? Zooming out though, considering how much money is swimming around in the RWT circle, it should be no wonder that these same individuals make a risk-reward assessment and think it's worth their time to try infiltrating the "bank" as if it were. Getting caught and penalized is small potatoes compared to the potential profits as long as they play their hands carefully enough. It to me feels like no one at Jagex really seems to take seriously just how much money RWT actually generates, and thus that infiltrating the "bank" as if it were, can present a very tempting option. After all, even if caught, fined, and penalized - the person can just change their name, start up another bot farm, and off they go.
Though, I don't believe there is an armada of corrupt Jmods, because no direct evidence for such exists. There are also several - though incredibly unsatisfying potential answers-for why the bots and rwt persists as an issue. Most of them have to do with limited resources, a very old game code, and the ease of operations for the botter rwt'ers. Also, a lack of consequences for RWT operators. Which also means corporate meddling cannot be ruled out as locking anti-botting efforts hands behind their backs - though I think it more a case of nobody in upper management understand, caring, or realizing the true scope and scale of the problem. As well as just how much money is involved, looping back to the potential issue of infiltration.
Noting here also, the current penalty of bans only work if the people being targeted by them have some emotional investment or care about Runescape (fear of losing an account.) To botters it's literally just a money print. Most of them probably are past the point of caring or playing. Banning accounts means nothing as they behind the screen are immune from the biggest penalty Jagex has short of somehow taking legal action. At this point it's probable a lot of botters and rwt'ers have very little emotional investment and ban is just a "do not pass go - do not collect 200%" card on the board. A minor inconvenience, hurdle, and no issue for them to sort out. And that means it's from their point of view a very low risk, lucrative operation that generates insane revenue streams. No longer just hobbyists or rule breakers - but low tier cyber criminals out to make money using professional grade operations in terms of pay off.
Its obvious they've been abusing bots on their own game to make irl money to the addicted gamblers that consume it. The facade that there's any new players is atrocious. Only people who play osrs are gamblers and streamers. Just looks like there's people playing
@@bbcaptain3858 The magic thing such a bold claim needs is proof. Innocent until proven guilty and all that. Conjecture alone goes into conspiratorial whisperings' territory, and I think with such it's best to be a bit cautious.
But then they ban levitate f2p people. Wtf...
i've seen those cursing mining bots when i was f2p before leagues! i didn't think bots could curse, but that explains so much
Jagex don’t care about bots anymore sadly, they’re just interested to sell the game! But they don’t know we can tuck them if we all stop playing and renewing our membership
if people were capable of that, theydve done it years ago.
People don’t care because the bots do things players aren’t willing to do and it benefits the players.
@@Wes-Tyler”benefits the players.” LMAOAO WHAT?! if anything people are leaving because of this. what are you smoking?
Huh interesting to see the bots evolving in Runescape like they did back in diablo 2, those Bots were fun to run and watch play. Wonder about the Wilderness Bot farms that go undetected.
i was doing a tileman on free to play and there are like 20+ bots in every world with firestaffs that walk between lumbridge bank and the furnace in lumbridge, crafting I assume emerald necklaces and alching them on the walk back... they do not use run so its pretty slow gp/h but there are a ton of them and they probably mule the GP after a while...
There is quite a lot of F2P bots at the Goblins in the Asgarnian Ice Dungeon training combat most of them are around level 60, and then some at teh start fighting mobs as well that seem to be bots. I am not sure what they are doing there, but I think they might be training to bot in p2p.
I can't believe Jagex allows this. They should be ashamed
It's cause it inflates their numbers
@@kais295wouldn't be surprised over 50% are bots. Wouldn't be surprised if jagex made more money off of the bot farms than real Players
But how else would they hit their record high off 200k+ active players for when they sell the company next year.
they train in f2p because play time = less ban. So they start the accounts in f2p and if they dont get banned after training a bunch of combat, some f2p skills like wcing, firemaking etc, and they get a month or so of playtime, then they get them members and full send work towards bossing.
The guys using the stove in East falador is also in members worlds, I’ve noticed a few while doing Mahogany Homes
Jagex probably knows and doesnt respond to your reports of the f2p bots for obvious reasons. Imagine 80% of ur population suddenly disappears, not a good image. Jagex probably lowkey hates these videos
They should honestly just remove f2p at this point. There's basically no real players there anymore.
So what? Even then it’s impressive how many people play this game. RS as a whole has been around for about 2 decades so I fail to understand this argument. Even 5k real people is impressive for a game like this.
Every non-TL f2p world has a bot on the mining guild iron rocks 24/7. Not the most interesting, but they've been there for an absurd amount of time and the accounts don't get banned very quickly because most have over 80 mining.
The Al Kharid mine also has usually around 10 bots all doing slightly different things.
Jagex got someone on the payroll, to make the worlds look more populated to entice more players, simple.
I used to run 3 laptops and a pc bottling rs as a kid 20+ years ago. It’s insane to see this is still a game people play
it would be even easier to code the mule to only accept a trade if it was offered a stackable item, like 1 air rune for example, which each bot automatically has upon logging in and finishing tutorial island. Something like a passcode.
yeah I'm sure that would work out well... It's really not that hard to keep a set of usernames that should be getting gold.
@@shinobuoshino5066 I could see a world where 1 bot stores that data on instantiation of the account/tutorial island creation, however, it would be less code and more elegant to just take an air/mind rune or something. Less code > better result
@@NanomachineExE less code = your gp gets drained
@@shinobuoshino5066 nah. Less secure? Probably, but no one knows what items the bots and mules are trading so it's nearly impossible for someone who has no idea what is going on.
@@NanomachineExE yeah just like no player knows that the mule is there and trading free gp to everyone
I saw a bunch of bots last night CB 40 all with 70 magic running in through the wilderness gate in the Edgeville dungeon. Can’t remember which world but it was a members server. Didn’t pay too much attention to it but after watching this I wish I did.
F2p osrs is unplayable. My first experience with iron man mode and osrs in years was ruined because it was damn near impossible to actually get XP in several skills since literally every single skilling spot on the map is infested with 5 billion bots. I honestly believe jagex either runs the farms themselves or allows it to entice people to p2p.
Been playing F2P on the HCIM, and Ive seen the mining bots in the dwarven mine. I figured they must be bots, because I kept seeing many different names, but all of them kept saying roughly the same things. One time I was using the Lumbridge Home Teleport, leaving, and still got the same response after telling the bot they could have the spot xD
Ive also noticed LOADS of bots cutting Oak Trees right outside of the Falador East Bank. They might be the same lvl 13s though.
Really sucks Jagex just isn't banning bots anymore.
fuggin jamflex
Rather than destroying GP, you should start a gold sink/mounted coins collection in your POH to show off how much money you've taken from bots. :)
This just proves that Jagex isnt actually trying to fight the bot problem. They just want a higher playercount
Exactly
No it doesn’t
@@coolbassguy yes it does. If Jagex really wanted the bots banned they could do it. At this point though the economy almost needs the bots to maintain prices. It all the bots left the game, a lot of prices would fluctuate.
Jagex can see every trade thats processed in the game, they know who trades who. They need to find a better way to control this.
There are people at Jagex that care I’m sure it the greedy people outweigh the people that genuinely care. It’s sad.
I've been fishing anglers on my hcim skiller since before leagues came out. There are bots there with 99+ fishing (some with 35m+ fishing exp) And bots I reported well over a month ago still aren't banned.
Here's the twist! Remugarn is really Jagex, and they were secretly supplying starter gold to all accounts who traded. SirPugger took advantage of it, so Jagex changed the code. Now, only bots can use it now since they never were never greedy and only ever traded once.
Once I witnessed an invasion on the Wizard Tower, they all started appearing on every F2P world!
bots casually making it to 900+ in f2p without being banned is so insanely frustrating when I'm taking absolutely forever just to get to 800. It makes me so tempted to just make a botting account to shortcut a lot of the grinding
What's the point in that? The grind is the game.
We’re adults bro, nobody has time to grind anymore. No shame in it but it is definitely not as satisfying
watch, if you do it yourll get banned within the first week
@zeke1220 i've personally botted from 100m to 6.7b during the toa bot spree.
While it's not as satisfying , i'd say that after that margin of profit never having to worry about gp ever again due to having max gear + about 300m in supplies means i don't have to worry as much about moneymaking and can afford to actually do efficient bossing.
During that span the acc i botted went from base 70s to maxed combat also which made me an alt to do alt scape onto
@@Mana-nm8fgwhat bot did you use? Asking for a friend ofc
i saw something similar a few months ago when i was leveling a character at the chaos druids in the taverley dungeon. full adamant, a scimitar, a shield and same level using incoherent names
These f2p bots just don't get banned because it will greatly impact the "player" count and also the buying and selling of bonds.
Real players buy up bonds
These bots end up buying it, especially now that you can buy a 14 day CODE DIRECTLY IN GAME. It's actually absurd that they tailor to bots and RWT.
Reminds me of someone saying something like, 60% bots, 30% alts, 10% players. Numbers are off but you get the idea.
cool,cus im thinking of running a bot farm to make some $$!!
Woww, respect to the man that sent in this tip instead of just milking the money himself.
Guess the botter didn't bother to simply keep a database over his accounts and have his bot read the player name that wanted to trade with them. He probably implemented such system now, Im sure he appreciates your help in improving his system and all it cost him was a small fraction of his daily production.
@zash5598yeah and the moon is fake
@zash5598 You should get above a 20% literacy rate before ya go forming thoughts into sentences. Might help ya look less moronic.
Guardians of the rift bots just took a massive ban wave. A lot of people used to bot it to 85 and then go 99 elsewhere
The Death of a once loved game..
Play ironman, stop whining.
What he said
@@heyday1233Ironman is a waste of time and anyone who says otherwise is coping hardcore
@YipJumpMusic games are a waste of time, how we chose to waste our time is upto you, grow up.
Over the last 1-3 months I've found a bunch of bots at the Rellekka Slayer Cave farming Kurask. Most of these are high lvl PvM accounts around level 100+ with full obsidian armor. Most of the bots I've reported have not been banned at all. I highly suspect these accounts are botted just sell the accounts.
I've seen that farm too. If you type 'bot or bots' in chat sometimes they will run to the corridor and log out.
We need a bot busting stream again
Those mining bots are also at the mine south of Falador, I thought they were real at first, then realized it was a script. So many bots everywhere.
If no one's come to the conclusion that Jagex isn't doing this themselves at this point, I weep for the future of our species.
They already started doing this themselves with Trident and Stella, I guess they figured if you can’t beat them, join them.
@@nicholashoeh3235 If you want something to have intrinsic value, pretend it does.
About half a year or so ago I played a bit of OSRS for the first time and like in the video, there were these trains of bots doing stuff in and around Falador in F2P. I really wonder why there's not a few people whose job it is to sit in these bot hot spots and just completely delete these accounts entirely, or why they don't kill F2P servers for a while out of the blue and clean up the GE.
the biggest reason why I love this game is the player driven gameplay. theres no other game I know of where you can find such unique occurrences as a normal player.
Guild Wars 2 for me.
VERY NICE TRICK! Putting your screen, even though it's just pickpocketing a mule, in with your AD. I sat through without skipping the AD, pretty sneaky sis.
Crazy theory: Not all but some are Jagex bots planted to make the game look more populated especially in f2p to keep new players interested/engaged
Probably not necessary. If you stop banning botting all together there will likely be plenty of bots made by random people to accomplish a higher population.
@@sylvariatzaka It's more than just population, most those bots would be just a stacked tile/area doing something like lobster fishing or logs like the bot in this vid. I'm talking about ones that seem to play the whole game and do random things like kill monsters in a weird place or smelt shit in fally
@@jordant764tbh mate there are literally complete bot scripts you can just run right now that play the game like this, a quest here and there etc and they never get caught. Likelihood is it’s just some geezer levelling up accounts in f2p for a bigger member end goal like vorkath or some shit
They were not there yesterday.
Just wait. AI players are coming and there doesn't seem like there is much Jagex could do if they wanted
Get a grip bro been misinformed like hell
@@fujster i do have a grip....on my C0CK
the fucks an "ai player" lmfao you know bots are already artificial intelligence right? so is your calculator app
Dudes literally pickpocketing mules 😂😂😂
After 20+ years of Runescape I refuse to believe that there hasn't been a more efficient solution to the bot problem. Either Jagex don't care, or they're making money from them. This should not still be a thing.
so ive been messing around with a lot of my older (kinda throwaway) f2p accs slowly switching all them over to the new jagex login thingy. anywho, one of those is a baby obby mauler, i havent got it mems ever, so i just kinda vibe in f2p randomly. so anyways, i was looking for a place to train in f2p that wasnt cows. as you can imagine, trying to find a fun place in f2p with 1 atk/def is not the easiest. but i remembered the muggers on the way to skele wyvs. they are like lvl6, i was like huh wonder if those would work.
apparently i am not the only one that thought so cause i ran into multiple bots across different f2p worlds. i think this is a training hotspot for someones bot farm. anywho, it made me think of you, lmao. thanks for the vid
The bots aren't "beating" Jagex's bot detection system, Jagex is likely letting them stay active to train the bot detection system. If you yourself can detect them as bots, Jagex is also detecting them. The thing is, sometimes it's better not to let the botters know you've detected them so you can watch what they're doing
God bless your pure heart
@@NZT_Pill speaking from experience as a software engineer training machine learning models my friend. You'd be shocked where technology is at
@@andrueanderson8637 Yes! They have done that for 20+ years. All the 1000s of bots are detected, just still learning from them... Also the ones that run for months and RWT.
I hope this theory is correct, and it’s not just Jagex short staffing their anti-cheating team while also intentionally keeping player count high to artificially inflate their worth while trying to either sell or become a public stock. I’d still be okay with the latter if it turns out your idea is still correct and they are training a better bot detection system.
Yeah I understand that but the training time takes too long for Jagex- I routinely catch large scale bots with 50-100m xp in like ranged just PvMing a mid level monster. If all it takes is to tweak a script slightly to go unbanned for another 3-6 months after jagex finally trained the model & banned you, you need to improve!
Northwest corner of Rev Caves. I’ve reported over 300 bots there and none of them have been banned. My ignore list is full af. Help.
OSRS team needs to do something with the bots in F2P, I play only F2P it has gotten out of hand.
what do you do? I smith at varrock west bank and hate life.
I’m convinced this is jagex themselves pumping the player numbers
It’s the reason I quit playing. Anywhere in the game you can log in and find a player that will stay there for a week straight and just do that skill on the same tile. Jagex should be embarrassed what this games become
I’m thinking of quitting myself although I came back 2 months ago. I struggle to make a pure while playing 2-4hrs a day. I’m barely 70 stats while these bots have the perfect pure stats easily. 50-60 attack, 99 str, range, mage. 99 is easy for these bots.
Jagex is giving us a reason to finally stop playing this game. Other than leagues ofc
Theres a bunch of bots at hill giants in each world too. they wear addy armor with dhide legs while using range without safespotting then alch the drops
Im super early and don’t even have notifications. God did
Me too
Same thing basically happened to rsc, unmodded due to newer ventures, in this case rs3, led to heavy botting, unfixed bugs and eventually,its demise
Hi, i just foundfound a swarm of bots at F2p worlds at Monestary next to Edgeville World 316 & 308.
Jagex has given up on bots it seems like. I see the same bots at artiso with 10-15k KC, they're literally there for weeks without stopping.
The amount of bots in osrs is actually insane. I'd love to see Jagex do a bot nuke to see how much the player counts plummet. My long-standing theory is that bots make up a significant enough amount of the playerbase, that actually doing something about them would kill the game because of lost revenue. Let's not forget that the lost revenue from the original bot nuke was the reason squeal happened. If the rumors of Jagex looking to be sold are true, then the inflated player numbers from bots also looks good to investors.