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Another new car comes to the garage this week, and one that should have been delivered a while ago according to the original timescale.
This, combined with the fact that the planned factory collection didn’t happen, and the car arrived in an unfinished state, has really put a dent in the excitement of this new arrival.
Yes, it’s first world problems. Yes, it sounds a touch petulant. Yes, perhaps we should be grateful that we are getting a new car at all. But when you are expecting something to arrive in a good state and on time, and you want to feel like a valued customer - these things make a difference to your state of mind.
So, this week, join TheCarGuys for the unveiling of this new car, a full walkaround and explanation of the spec, and of course the first drive.
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The green looks good imo. The config render was reflecting a warm background and came across too garden green. This looks very Aston Martin Green.
I think the "real-life" colour looks better than the configurator colour too. I generally dislike matte colours, this one looks fresh but not too showy.
I love how transparent you are with all your manufacturer dealings. From purchasing all the way through to servicing etc
Cracking review Damian. Perfect honesty! Speaking to many lotus owners, you’ll end up loving the things you hate before long…. All part of the ownership!
Cheers, Tom - I hope so
Lotus PR department must be on their holiday's, as they missed a great opportunity to have you look round the HQ and give the brand a boost among your many viewers. As for the car it looks great and it would be good to see some custom metal buttons and vents made to boost the quality or the interior. Keep up the great videos.
All lotus owners: "Yep, sounds about right". Just wait until you need some spare parts! I agree it's a shame the colour hasn't lived up to expectations. Hope you can enjoy the driving experience anyway once it has been run in, after all that's the most important thing with an Elise.
Never had an issue, and never had an issue with spare parts. Maybe I was lucky ?
@@jonathantennantphotography2869 depends what you need, some parts end up on back order with the factory for months, years etc
@@zimbarbaluba Sadly it is like that today even for some Toyota products and for Lotus many times worse with all the industry/covid/ecoterror issues. I do understand it but it is sad when you are the one needing the part... Some suppliers even ceased to exist so they have to find new ones and other hard situations for the Lotus team.
Lotus are usually really good, much better than most other dealers. There can be a wait for certain parts though as the company which made some of the stuff on the older models went out of business years ago and no one has taken over production.
I’d be pee’d off with that change in green too, nothing like the catalogue sample! Love your videos for being so honest, it’s not as though the car was cheap so fully understand your disappointment with Lotus. Also agree about the plastic trim, should be aluminium for the final edition.
I'd agree but I think color it was painted is much nicer
I don't think it's as much of a change in color, rather that the configuration doesn't represent it well. I looked at a hell of a lot of real photos of the colour I got and even then was worried what it might end up like.
When I buy a Lotus, I’m only interested in the car and not the buying experience. They are brilliant and I LOVE my Elise!! As for your disappointment at Lotus releasing a new Petrol engined car after you placed your order, you have bought the very last lightweight Lotus! And it is awesome! And we have known about the Emira coming for a long time. The FE is brilliant. Love the green, but would have gone for yellow stripes to really complete the look.
I also agree with you about the colour, and Lotus should be shamed for the casual way that they have treated you. But.....The Elise is a joyous thing to drive and own.
I still think it's a beautiful spec love the green with the yellow accents and grey wheels... would maybe remove those signature stickers they look a bit crap
I feel sad for you because of the horrendous service Lotus provides. On a bright side; for me as a viewer there's not more enjoyable than a brutally honest review of that experience. Thank you for that. I do like the color by the way and it looks like a proper supercar to me too. Looking forward to more content once you passed the 1,000 miles. Cheers from the Netherlands
Love the fact the indicator and wiper stalks are still 1990’s Vauxhall Astra ones 👍😎
Totally
@@TheCarGuysTV And then imagine that in 100k Evora GT ;-) It is a pain but that drive!!! Lotus is so obsessed with the driving feel and details but those "market experience" details are just on 27th place sadly for them. It should get higher but keep the driving obsession going ;-).
Love the way you say it as it is. Good on you, we need more of this on TH-cam. Excellent content. Congratulations.
Love the brutal honesty, v refreshing! Think the green looks great and would look even better with gold wheels
I spent 8 months deciding on colour, Lotus has many different greens, silvers etc with similar names… nearly went Porsche PTS Oak Green… ended up with Daytona Blue in the end. Probably should have went with orange 😂. Car comes alive above 4000 rpm. Can do that after 600km. Sales and service in Australia is exceptional.
All that you've said, I still think it's a wonderful and beautiful piece of car art 😊👍🏁
One of the best car reviews I’ve seen. Totally up front and honest. Regardless of your experience, there is not a car I would rather own.
don't mind the colour but some gold wheels would definitely give it a bit of a visual lift.
"Give it some beans" may also now be inappropriate as the latest craze is for kids to empty a tin of beans all over a car, supermarkets have now been advised not to sell beans to children lol
Yeah, gold wheels are needed. But will Lotus help?
@@simonorr594 you don't need lotus, you just get them painted or powder coated at a decent shop
I've got to say I prefer Lotus's in a bright colour. The 240FE is a good road car but I prefer the Cup250 for looks and track days. I hope your catalyst lasts, watch out for exhaust rattles if you track it
Mmm, have to say, I do love a gree, but totally agree with you, really sad, it’s not a winner. Man, sad times.
Just googled Lotus Elise racing green ... next time ... do as I just did.
Great little car, hopefully the green grows on you. Incredible how different it is to the colour when you spec it. Love the interior and the gear shifter. Agree about the stainless bits. Doesn’t need the gold wheels, in my opinion. I look forward to another driving video where you can rev it out.
Lmao - You getting into that car is me getting into my wife's bloody mini, welcome to my world :)
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You could try a clear mat wrap on the racing green to make it look more like the green on the configuration?
As a Glasgow Rangers fan green is not a fave colour BUT I’d happily have this little pocket rocket
I’ve always loved the Elise and this spec is beautiful and will grow more on you you’ll see
I love basic and light and fast
Handling is everything
I’d love a bit of yellow around the front end a little like the Lotus 7 nose cone but smaller
Happy days ahead
I hate RR limos and expensive super cars we can never afford
Yaris this and Porches 💋💋💋
Lotus do both 'racing green' and 'motorsport green' just to confuse us. Motorsport green is fantastic with a yellow metallic fleck to it, racing green is sadly rubbish imo, very flat, no depth. Good if you're into understated colours but not for me.
On the plus side you can't see the colour from the inside and it still drives better down UK roads than just about anything else.
Still a great looking Lotus. And a future classic for sure. Love the wheels!
I'm real sorry the experience didn't go as hoped but I LOVE the color the wheels and just the right amount of yellow! I sure hope it grows on you because it is absolutely beautiful!!!
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When you said late and unfinished I knew it was a Lotus immediately 😂😂😂
Ouch! 😀
I bought a 8 months old black and gold Esprit in 1981. It was originally bought by a Saudi Prince whilst studying in London. Had a few thousand miles on clock. Within 2 years got lumbered with £8,000 of repairs consisting of cylinder head gasket that was not diagnosed by dealer, major fault on air conditioning system that dealer couldn’t fix, radiator leaks, worn gear stick linkage, flexible exhaust coupling replaced, doors used to shake at high speed. Had Morris Marina door handles and Rover back lights. Great looking car but taught me a lesson never to buy what was a glorified fibreglass kit car
The green looks really nice. This was all bought and collected in COVID-19 times so it was never going to be a normal purchase unfortunately.
Thanks for your interesting comments. Concerning the front number plate the 220 sport comes with a much smaller plinth which most Dealers stock and will accommodate a standard plate which I stuck on with double sided Gorila tape ( the original was screwed on too low by the dealer and was ripped off the first time that I pulled into my drive at home)). The tape works very well. I bought my 220 new earlier this year - I couldn't find a final Edition in an acceptable colour which wasn't £10000 more. Your car looks very good in green and I envy your choice. It looks better than my car which is in the blue you refer to.
I'm sorry to hear of your disappointing experience. I'm pleased to say that my supplying dealer Hendy of Poole were excellent in every way. Without cost they even changed the radio and were very enthusiastic about Lotus in general.
Love Damien's refreshing honesty as always, no fakery like all the usual TH-camrs which is getting very tiresome.
Thanks, Wayne
They haven't learned anything from James' experience with buying Evora 400, have they? Ah, Lotus.
Apparently not
Love your honesty and sorry if you’re a bit pissed off by the whole experience. It looks good IMHO.
Start up montage with the pigs had me laughing:DD Epic editing skills!
I thought you’d like that
I hope we get to see the Tesco car park hokey-cokey in another episode. “You put your left leg in. You put your right leg out. In, out. Where’s the tool for the roof? That’s what it’s all about.” 👍
What a beautiful car! Congrats
I agree with Tony Gordon that a bright colour is preferable that colour is very difficult to see as it is too much like the background, but they are good fun, I have owned two
Pretty car and a lovely colour. You'll have some fun in that, Damian, the questionable buying experience will fade from the rearview quickly I'm sure. Enjoy!
A Lotus? Is it a Lotus? Aaaaaand its a Lotus! I recognise that shape. Mine was gunmetal grey. Back in 2001.
Good on you for being so honest, it's hard when you've spent so much and want to love it so much to admit any gripes, I think the colour looks great but agree, nothing like that configurator image (almost looks matte on the configurator)
Health to drive Damian, looks like a car which will give miles of smiles!!
Brilliant car in a lovely colour but i think I would have chosen yellow wheels to match the yellow seat trim to give that classic Jim Clarke Lotus 25 look. Great video btw. 👌
Thanks, Barrie
What ever happens, you are the few lucky guys who can have this special edition. Do not look back take your car down to the country lanes and enjoy with your car.
Sound advice
Welp, sounds a lot like what JayEmm on Cars has explained in a video from a few years ago about the Lotus customer experience and nothing has changed since
Sorry about your experience - mine very different, ordered a exige 390 in racing green also - love the colour, dealer very engaged and went through every option and great advice , yes mine was late also but absolutely love the car !! Think maybe depends on your dealer mine was fab !!
Glad to hear it
Last one ever is a genuine USP. A nice little steal for you there.
I’ll be honest with you Damian, I think the car looks brilliant. Really mature, suits the car and while the green difference is staggering the current colour really suits the car too. Don’t feel too harsh 😊
Thanks, Gaelen
@@TheCarGuysTV It will grow on you I am certain.
I agree that colour does match the configuration which is a shame and a lotus could learn from it, however I do think the green is still a really nice colour and somewhat Aston Martin like
Lotus are out of order. Thankyou very much Damian for giving everyone the heads-up.
Sorry you had such a bad sales experience with your Elise. I ordered my S1 at the London motor show the moment I saw it. A "P" reg., one of the first 200 produced and the process was great, including a tour of the factory and the dealer offering me 25% extra to not take delivery, which I turned down obviously!
Great story. Yes I was sad about the initial experience , but now it’s time to enjoy the car and find out if I gel with it
Don't be too hard on yourself ,the combination of exterior and interior colours are truly stunning.
Yes, think it looks good. Going to be a good drive I imagine
Nothing like the configurator, I’d be pretty cheesed off, but it’s not like your looking for a return, so who cares, it’ll be great fun. 🏴🇬🇧
Truth is truth and thanks for that....customer service seems to have completely vanished these days but at least you have the car and it is a good car.... just leave the wheels as is, throw on some matching yellow racing stripes and get to that 1000 mile mark as fast as you can.
1000 mile run in!, it will be like getting a new car in 5 years when you hit that :) It's a lovely car and a box ticked well. I'm sure it will be the car of choice (even with your collection) for a trip to the local shops for a loaf of bread soon. A cheeky bit of different just for fun. :)
The colour looks good although definitely annoying that it is different to what was displayed
Great review I appreciate the honesty. I don't mind the green but I agree it doesn't look as good as the configurator colour which is what I've always spec'd it as when window shopping. I'm a fan of the exhaust note.
Another classic joins the Car Guys garage... and what a lovely little car it is. Looking gorgeous in its racing green, this little pocket rocket is no slouch. It's such a shame that Lotus dropped the bag for Damien and he gives an honest review of his buying experience. Nonetheless, congratulations Damien on adding your 1st new Lotus to the garage. I think it deserves a run up to the highlands or trip thru Wales to show off its abilities. More please. Love that PP too.
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I appreciate your candidness, really enjoyed this one :)
Glad you enjoyed it!
I had a mk2 when I was 22, I had it for a couple of months before it had to go! I hated getting in and out of it!
Even with the roof off?
It was better with the roof off but taking the roof off and putting it back on was equally as annoying on the mk2,
I swapped the car for a truly masculine 2.5 Porsche Boxster!! 😂
I must say that the lotus has aged well and the price for a decent 2001 Elise are still going for a similar price that I paid for mine 20 years ago.
Sums up Lotus: a great drive! Forget everything else
I feel like this is JayEmm 2.0. As I recall, he weighed in when you were anticipating this car. And it was a less than enthusiastic weigh in, as I'd mentioned in that video. Almost entirely having to do, I'm guessing, with his own purchase and service experiences. I'd like to hope that this will grow on you? Looking forward to that post break-in video. The beans edition! Cheers from across the pond. 😊
Great review, I cancelled my Emira order as don’t trust the configurator colours, and only the blue one floating around dealers as an actual live colour. I also put order in and heard very little from Lotus in the meantime.
Sorry to hear that
An honest review, lucky the guys (SSC) that look after Lotus Australia are far more accommodating. I second that comment about the brakes being spongey, I own a 430 Cup Exige and never loved the stock brake feel, it might just be a personal preference, but it’s an incredibly unnerving feeling when you hard brake into a corner, and 60% of the pedal does bugger all - I’ve recently solved this by upgrading the pads to Pagid RS14’s, had them on my S2 260, i’d recommend the same, the feel, bite, progression are far superior.
Great looking car imho, I don't see many green ones. Guaranteed its going to be an awesome drive, more on that please when you're ready!!
What are you on? XD That racing green is a brilliant spec, and those yellow contrasts that you have chosen are perfect. But I have to admit that signature is not the best ^^ Hope driving pleasure will give you your enthousiasm back ;)
Hopefully
Me thinks you need an olivy swampy green watch to go with it .........ha! its gorgeous Damien ....
Sorry for your new owner experience but make up for it with driving experiences! Ring it's neck and enjoy! Can't wait to see future videos.
Loved this! Did make me laugh.
Well done guys 🤣🤣🤣
Thank you
What kills you ,in this YTcar channel business , is your honesty Damian :) BUT we love you for it.
Yeaaah the clear difference in the color pattern would be almost the death for me as a buyer,not getting exactly what you paid for IS a deal breaker,so everything else that usually you would take as "quirk" in the buying experience becomes a drag .
Hopefully the end of the breaking period and the unleash of the car full potential gets your smile back good buddy!
Cheers,, dude
I hear the ghost of Colin speaking out!..."What's all this about aluminum trim? That would've added 5 grams of unnecessary weight!"
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Thanks for the review. Personal highlight though is the unexpected pig at 14:21!
I thought you’d like that
Holy... That stereo 😱
I think the spec looks fab, but definitely different to the configurator 😅
Welcome to Lotus 😁
I have to confess I purchased my first Porsche sports car this year and I have an issue with it and Porsche are just the same, ignoring a known issue and hope you just give up.
Wasn’t expecting that as you kind of except it with past new Lotus.
Great honest Video - I also like you picked a colour that looked great on the configuration page but when it arrived I was extremely disappointed as it also looked nothing like the one on the web, however as this was a car from stock I did have a safety net with the dealer that if I didn’t like the colour then I could cancel my order and have my deposit returned.
I must say the dealership and factory they have been extremely helpful in allowing me to re-order a new vehicle in Vortex Grey and to a build spec of my choice.......happy days to come I hope as I await delivery later this year ( one of the last builds ). Just hope my first choice colour is spot on 🤞🏻.
i like green cars but this one looks dull and washed, it's british racing green candy edition, the car itself is awsome, always had a bit of a soft spot for lotus elise. truly lovely thing
I’m a huge Lotus fan but I agree that the online colour configurator was misleading and at only 1,500 car production annually Lotus should have done better with comms! Still the proof is in the pudding - it will be your longterm abiding impression of the cars drive-ability and the level of fun you get from it that will be the real factors that count. Good luck with getting to know it better. The Elise, for a small simple car certainly has a huge heart and irrespective of money, offers a purity that very few can match.
Just to add there are many online resources where you can buy all manner of modifications for your Elise and a huge amount of Indy support. I’m sure you’d be able to find better buttons.
Cool, thanks
Is that a 5270? Stunning piece… enjoy your car!
I noticed you have not reviewed a McLaren 720s yet, which has the steering sensitivity of a Lotus. I am in the area this week in case you want to give mine a go. I also have a 458 Challenge which I am taking to Dick Lovett Ferrari Day at Castle Combe on Sep 28 if you want to give that one a go too. It's nuts! Full racing gear mandatory.
Companies don’t care about customers. In spite of all your issues you still bought the product. They treated you badly before you took delivery when you could still walk away. Like you said, all sold out so why make the effort? I wish you well and hope that the ownership experience is better. As for the car, I will forever be an Esprit fan and shall remain loyal…
Thank you for a great video…as ever. Really sorry to hear you had such a poor buying experience. Once you can get that roof off and beyond the 4000 rev limit things are going to be looking up. I’ve had my Sport 220 for 18 months and it has brightened up almost every day in that time.
Excited to hear that, Chris
Appreciate the honesty. Make me laugh all the people saying lotus is shit I’d never touch one. The fact is most of them will never be in a position to get one anyway.
Wow, in this day and age thats totally unacceptable!! A small manufacturer like LOTUS should be all over this considering your presence online. So sorry 😞 Hopefully they will see this and get it together. The dealer too, no tool kit on delivery?? Wt*
I agree, except about the online bit. It shouldn’t matter, and this channel is too small to make a difference. When you buy a new car - any new car - you want to feel like you’re important to them
@@TheCarGuysTV I wouldn't underestimate your on line presence. Sure, you don't have over 1M+ subscribers but who cares, the ones you do have are loyal and respect your opinions and what you do (very honest and well informed opinions at that) Keep up the great work guys 💚from NZ
Oh dear! Hoping to get an Emira so sincerely hope that the experience is better! 🤪
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I can understand your frustration - and pretty sure Jason had some comments in line with "I told you so, if you buy in a >last edition< hype modus...". Looking at the "Final Edition" and the Emira - as well as how Lotus has placed the Emira in the market - I cannot believe these are really the last petrol cars from them... Hope you can still enjoy the lightness & agility, looking forward to seeing some road trip content with the Elise... but as JayEmm already mention a couple of times, Lotus TH-cam Content is not very popular :-(, hope you still share your experiences with us.
Btw. not only Lotus is not really enjoyable during the order, production & delivery process - same with Caterham, where my 485 CSR is a complete black-box when it comes to progress updates or "buyer experience"... hope the final product is convincing.
Thanks, Johannes
One of the best green's Lotus did was Motorsport Green. A lot more zip to it, and with the pearl effect, really picks up the sun - I think this was the 'heritage' colour you were looking for. It wasn't offered on the FE cars, don't know f it could be spec'd custom ? To be fair to Lotus, LRG was always a touch dull unless you pictured it in a full-on sunny day. Some of the other things mentioned like fuel filler position, high sill height, bum-basic cabin are pretty much how Lotus' have been for the past 25yrs, hence the shift to Emira - fully agree with you that Lotus / dealers need to up their game for that car & the targeted buyers. Ultimately , hope you enjoy the driving & have lots of adventures in it
I bought a lotus in the early 2000s. I had the same buying experience so nothing improved. 😐
I think big company's not just car company's don't care about customer service anymore. They figure there is always another customer.
Color is nice, kerp your chin up. Looking forward to some beanage, and drive reviews!!
I really like the spec!! Congratulations and health to drive
Love the car. I like the green, gold wheels would transform it. Mrs C got the guys to add a little red to Subaru gold on one of our green cars, looks great.
I had a new Elise in 1998 after a 18 month wait. Loved it as daily. Did 20k miles in it and pretty much got my money back when I sold it. No reliability issues, just ripped the arse out of three pairs of suit trousers getting in and out. I'm 6ft 2in. Bell & Colvill were excellent back then and I went to factory to see mine on the line etc. Sounds like Lotus service went down hill sadly.
That customer experience sounds brilliant - always a thrill to see your own car being built.
Never trust the color shown on the configurator. It shows cartoons not real photos. Go to the showroom and look for the colour cards for real.
I really enjoy these kind of videos you do Damian. I'm sorry it hasn't been the new car experience that it should have been, shame. Thanks for the honest informative video though, much appreciated and enjoyed. Have a good weekend!
Cheers, Oliver
Nice car Damian, its a shame you feel so let down, I bought a Cup 250 last year, ordered January 20, delivered June 20, delayed due to covid. Lotus and the dealer B&C couldn't have treated me better, and kept me informed throughout, believe it or not they even had colour swatches of all current colours and offered to get a car in whatever colour I chose, even if it meant asking a customer to bring along their own car...me chucking £45k+ at a car means everything has to be right, so taking the time to do a bit of research re colours/dealers etc was important. Pretty easy to address most of your complaints, feel free to get in touch, I'm more than happy to offer a positive Lotus buying experience, and advice on some of your concerns ie number plate plinth etc. I hope you grow to love the car, they really are fantastic fun!
Thanks, John. Yes I agree very easy to fix all these customer service issues.
I should’ve listened to James Martin and ordered from B & C as he did strongly recommend them. Sounds like they did well by you, which is great to hear.
Which dealer was it may I ask?
@@Matt-ze8ju Hendy Sports Cars, Poole in Dorset
Shame to hear the buying experience wasn’t as it should be. There’s no excuse for poor customer service - it’s not hard to get right but so few places do.
However, niggles aside, I’m sure you’ll love the car. I owned Lotus’s (Elise 111R & Exige V6) for 11 years and loved them. Great cars to drive.
I also found driving with the roof off added to the driving experience too (as well as making it much easier to get in/out!). Enjoy.
Let’s hope so
Congratulations. A beautiful car that. All the best.
The thing with the S3 is that it could also be an S2, sort of. Only the S1 is iconic I think. (Owner of 2 S1's, an S3, and an S3 Exige speaking). I was 3 years out of Uni in 1995 and couldn't afford an S1 back then! Never figured out the stereo in any of mine......
Thanks Damien, well it's not 'great', and understand your dissapointment. Thx too for the total honest review.
As others have said, satin gold rims would help greatly. Try to enjoy it.
That is a bit sad. But a reflection on a world that no longer cares. I love the look of it. I am only 5ft 6in. I wonder about getting in also. A neighbour has a silver one on his lawn. Mx5 also. I am not quite flexible as I used to be. Cheers.
Neither am I 😂😂😂