the number of people who treat babies like relationship bandaids is actually disgusting to me. im low-key anti-natalist, but if you ARE going to have a child, i believe it should be a VERY INTENTIONAL THING. you should bring them into the world with care, affection, and a game plan. anything less is doing a disservice to the that child and the community around you.
this comment has me punching the air bc you’re so on point. if the relationship isn’t doing well, how is a baby going to fix that? spoiler alert, it’s not - it’s only going to make things worse AND at the expense of a whole living human being.
Yup. People take bringing a whole person into the world WAY too lightly. Just because babies are easy to make doesn’t mean everyone needs one. That’s why so many people have traumatizing childhoods.
Ryland really needs to set boundaries with Shane. I couldn’t even imagine my husband flirting with a mutual friend or employee right in front of me. Also when it comes to hiring someone there needs to be a discussion about what is and isn’t appropriate to say to someone you are employing because there is an obvious power dynamic because if Chris ever says that he’s uncomfortable Shane could just fire and drop him like it’s nothing.
I still remember a long time ago (before "docu" -era) them doing a video with Ryland sitting on Shane's lap and them being all cute. If they weren't such dicks I'd feel bad for them.
comical that they think raising a child is less stressful than planning a wedding.. a child flips your entire life upside down. Shows how little they know about being a parent. I have 2 children and my relationship has went though MANY trials through the years after we had children. There’s A LOT of stress and pressure as a parent so it really can make or break your relationship. They really need to rethink if they think planning a wedding is “too stressful” but a child is not…
This, damn. Anyone who thinks raising kids is just this fun, nbd thing... probably shouldnt have them lmao. The ignorance is profound. If you're going to have kids, I feel like you should be afraid (in addition to, you know, wanting them and being stable etc)-there is no greater responsibility in life! That's stressful as hell! For at least 18 years... and no year-long breaks when you get sad about people not liking you on the internet 🙄
Agreed. Married with two under 2. Got pregnant when our daughter was 10 months and four months away from having our son. We didn’t have a wedding-my mom’s cousin married us. Ik it doesn’t compare to the stress of a wedding, but a wedding is a few months maybe of stress, one stressful day, and then maybe the stress of maintaining a healthy marriage. Kids are permanent and there are new trials and tribulations every single day. There are easier days and harder days.
With the way Shane treats children, and the people around him, I feel like any child he raises is going to go through a lot growing up. Shane is not someone who strikes me as a qualified parent, and it genuinely worries me that he wants one. I hope that any agency he tries to go to in order to get the kid will look into who he is and know to turn him down.
@@lissie3669 unfortunately, yeah... hopefully CPS will get involved. this is one of the few instances where I would support people calling the authorities on an internet figure.
@@andrealongbottom3869 Oh God yeah, I'm glad I wasn't the only one getting those vibes. I wouldn't be surprised if Shane expects he can just have Ryland do all the hard parenting, and he can do the "fun" parts (probably mainly for videos)
I’ll say it again, they could have a wedding on their ranch with their family and closest friends with the alpacas in the background… low key and intimate doesn’t mean cheap! It would be perfect for them.
You'd think Shane would be more careful about how he treats Ryland in the public eye if he cares so much about his image. It seems strange that he's so openly vulgar with Chris in front of his literal fiancee...
Does no one remember that Shane was so irresponsible that he indirectly caused a kitten to die from not paying attention to it? And he thinks he can handle being responsible for a BABY?
We don't know what happens behind closed doors. Ryland has said they act it up a bit for drama on their podcast. We aren't there spying on them. Seeing how they act together alone.
I realize this video is older and you probably won’t see it but Shane actually knew Chris as a child. In fact Chris was in one of Shane’s videos as a child. Shane acknowledges this when we are introduced to Chris. So the fact that Shane is now hardcore flirting with Chris really weirds me out idk about anyone else.
adam bby, yellow is definitely your color. i’m so glad that i discovered your channel this year, you are such a comforting creator to me, and someone that i find such an entertaining and real person, so thank you for showing us your realness on the internet, more people need to be like you and not be afraid to voice their opinions. i hope 2023 is a wonderful year for you mucker. i found you during a really dark time of my life, and i really found your humor helping me cope with my grandfathers death earlier this year and same with my cats death. hearing you had a great christmas made me smile from ear to ear, and i hope you continue to be able to experience that happiness adam. thank you❤
as someone who ACTUALLY hates being the center of attention- my wedding day was perfect and i didn’t care about anyone looking at me because i was only focused on my wife and how happy i was that we were with all of the most important people in our lives. and planning a wedding doesn’t have to be stressful if u just don’t expect everything to be perfect because nothing is ever perfect.
Think about it- Ryland wants a baby girl- all Shane’s controversies include young girls and kids, including his sketches. That’s even more disturbing that they won’t get married due to the child I feel like there’s gonna be some really messed up shit happening to that kid between them to the kids going to need a lifetime of therapy to fix their problems. I hope they don’t do anything perverted and nasty to that poor innocent child.
It’s like they’re trying to find things to fix them - the dogs didn’t work, the cat didn’t work, the new puppy didn’t work, the alpaca didn’t work, the new cat didn’t work…
I used to hate New Years cause of the pressure to go out and have a good time etc till a couple years ago me and my boyfriend accidentally started a tradition of sleeping all day the eve (we were ill but not rona) then just staying up till like 9 or 10am watching spooky ghost movies
Just from how we see things, it appears like if they have a child Ryland will be the main parent, and I think they even talked about how Shane would be the 'fun parent' in an old video. Like Shane doesn't show a general care for health, hygiene or basic care for others. Babies (and people in general) need patience and open love and affection.
Good to see you, Adam. My Christmas celebration got cancelled because of covid. Two of my family members got it, so I didn't go. I've had pneumonia 3 times and covid would really wreck my lungs. I'm so glad you had a lovely time with your family. I'm enjoying moderating for you.
I think parents glamorize parenting lol cuz if we were real about it no one would want them or think they ever would fix literally anything. Me and my bf never fought or really even disagreed before we had a kid. Its been a rollercoaster ever since then lol
lets not forget that Shane and Ryland had a kitten for a week before it was killed by their dog. Now imagine a baby in that household, I'm worried about the negligence as well as the literal dog, poor baby.
it would be irresponsible to bring a child into the home with that dog. hes killed a kitten, and as far as i know theyve made no effort to work with a behavioral specialist. the dog isnt necessarily a bad dog, but theyre horrible pet parents. i cant imagine the mess theyd make raising a kid
TW : suicide I will go kind of dark here, but I think that Shane might use his mental health as some kind of magnet to keep Ryland in. He said multiple times how he considered suicide for this or that and that Ryland "Saved him" And that can be very toxic, because it’s a manipulation tactic to keep the person in out of fear of their partner doing something stupid and fear of having to deal with that person’s life as a whole! And I think there’s still that Romeo and Juliette glorification within society that the "if you go, I go" is romantic in a way, but yeah in that case it’s absolutely not. A person should never be the unique responsibility of their partners mental health and being.
i feel so bad for this potential child either way. “bandaid babies” basically either have to witness their parents go through a messy divorce or watch them live a loveless, spiteful life at home together. either way it messes up development and makes healthy relationships harder to keep/understand as you grow older.
I don’t care who this situation is about, my response is still the same. Every relationship has different goals, boundaries, etc. Shane hitting on Chris is no different than Ryland talking about kissing Lizzie on his podcast. they are entertainers and are acting as much. That doesn’t mean there is anything wrong with their relationship. As far has prioritizing having a child, yeah that makes sense too. They are both in their 30s. I’m sure that they want to get those moving as the process takes a lot of time. Getting married during this process will likely just prolong it. Also I’m sure there’s a lot to go over as they are both famous TH-camrs, I’m sure there is a lot of decisions to make like if a prenup is needed, etc.
When the relationship of my parents went south, my father also decided that it'd all be fixed if they bought a house and get a third child. Apparently a lot of people try to fix their relationship with commitments like that; I doubt it ever works. It didn't for us. It all was even worse past that point. I can't even fathom that ignorance. They should at least have to tend for something like a practice baby for at least a week before adopting. I am baffled that after all the allegations, Shane would even be allowed to adopt a child. It's such a huge comittmend, you can't just "get a child" like a pet. Shane will fuck that kid up so much.
My “husband” and we will be celebrating our 21 anniversary this week. We danced around getting married for years and now 2 kids later we still haven’t gotten married. We just enjoy ourselves with trust. Not for everyone. Xo 🖤💕
there is a difference between it not being for someone and a partner simply not wanting to marry you anymore, I feel they just dont love one another that and shane always flirting with christ in front of Ryland? yeah no and the fact Ryland had made it clear he wanted to get married..and now suddenly dosn't..is a red flag. They don't need to be together let alone get married or have a kid ..god help the kid they get
Yea but they’re literally engaged. At this point either Shane wants to get married or not and he should make it a clear decision as Ryland DOES want to get married. You and your partner were on the same page. It’s obvious Shane and Ryland aren’t and having a kid will not help them.
I have a sneaking suspicion they are still getting married and put this stuff out there so they could have privacy in the moment. The truth is we don’t know them. They only show us what they want to and to be Frank these little shows they put together are for entertainment purposes. Not much is more interesting than stirring the pot and watching it bubble.
It is statistically proven that 70% of marriages struggle and very often go through a period of splitting up in the first year of having a new baby… and that’s between people who actually wanted to get married and love each other sooo I wish Ryan luck as a future single parent - this shits hard man
Just like my mom always says “if you don’t have a wedding date, you aren’t engaged” even just an idea of year and month is enough. If you don’t plan to get married you just gave each other nice rings which is totally fine! But like in your relationship you have to define those kind of interactions. For me, if a person got on one knee and gave me a ring I’d expect to be wed within 2 years. But we also would have had that talk by then hopefully! If Ryland wants to be married, and it’s important to him, he needs a different partner it sounds like.
@@HaloOverOurDemise true but its talked by two partners and agreed upon. Ryland want to get married, Shane doesnt. All the time finding excuses and beeing worse and worse towards Ryland. No wonder Ryland is tense towards Shane. Ive been in similar position like him. Waited few years. He wanted to marry me then changed his mind so many times. Then we had a date TWICE. Then last second he was cancelling our wedding dates without a talk with me just deciding for both of us. We had relantionship problems in the middle and he wanted a child to fix it. I didnt agree to it. You should never bring kid to the world to fix your relantionship. Gladly broken off with him for many years but it make cringe when I look back and didnt dump him sooner x
As someone who is planning a wedding and trying for a child currently, Shane is bullshitting he doesn't want to fully commit. It seems like its all for attention.
A 'bandaid baby', sometimes referred to as a 'save-the-relationship baby' is where a disfunctional/toxic couple thinks that having a child together will miraculously fix all of the problems in their relationship/marriage and bring them closer together. Nine times out of ten, all it does is either absolutely nothing to fix the relationship or makes the relationship worse by having a new thing to fuel their resentment towards each other: the full time commitment that is taking care of another human. No child should be raised in that sort of environment and these babies will often have emotional difficulties growing up or later in life.
You have perfect timing with a Shane Dawson video. My best friend and I decided for science to rewatch Shane's food videos to see how many things people missed. Literally the first video we clicked featured Shane constantly deadnaming Caitlin Jenner while referencing that at the time of the video, the coming out and transition had already happened. We didn't get through 2 videos.
Shane never wanted to get married. He led Lisa on with the promise of an engagement to dumping her when he came out as bisexual and jumped into a relationship with Ryland. He's doing the same thing again, promising Ryland they would get married but now he's trying to backtrack
I’ve honestly lost interest in Shane’s content a long time ago because a lot of what he makes now is very messy, disorganized, and doesn’t make any sense. I do however watch Ryland’s vlogs because I do enjoy watching his home life/decorating content (especially where they live now in Colorado is not to far from where I’m at now and it’s fun watching their adventures being near where I live). However since Shane edits a lot of Ryland’s content (according to previous videos he’s posted) he often puts himself at the center of it when it’s not his channel. Shane always wants to be the center of attention contradictory to everything he claims
By no means a Shane fan, but I do think it's worth noting that Shane usually films in a room with like 5 people in them. It's very different than being the center of attention in front of a live crowd. HOWEVER, small weddings exist, and you don't even need to do a ceremony at all
I noticed in one of Ryland's recent vlogs he spilled coffee all over Shane and didn't apologize once. It's important to remember to say please, thank you, and sorry to your partner. It doesn't seem like a great relationship from what they show us.
I hate the idea that a child is less of a commitment than marriage. A child is a life long commitment. Marriage is supposed to be but if a marriage ends its not the end of the world (my parents have been married and divorced multiple times). Marriage is not as big of a commitment as a child. A child is an entire human. I will never understand that mentality 🫠
They are such narcissists. The only reason they think a child is less of a commitment is because the consequences of their actions will most affect the child, not them, whereas a marriage would have more of a direct impact on them personally
I have 5 sons that are now 27, 26, 22, 20, and 18. Raising children, especially when they were younger, it's tough to say the least. When you're a good, involved parent, it can take a toll on relationships, friendships, family, because it takes so much of your time, takes a toll on mental health and you're so busy! Why in the hell would he think that it will make things easier? It will not BRING you closer, it will cause so much stress that it's likely to push you farther apart. Especially, if one of the parents are stuck doing most of the child care and decisions. Let's be honest, Ryland will be doing the most because Shane is lazy and would want to play with the child, leaving Ryland to do most of the difficult things, leaving a sense of resentment. They really need to see a real therapist, not a yes man that knows who shane is.
I've been with my SO 13 years and genuinely don't want to get married because I don't want to be the center of attention. I also preferred to put money towards house/children etc. But shane and I are SO not the same lol. He can afford all those things and like you said he is constantly the center of attention as it is. IMO it's cringey to hear him BS those reasons (that are real to some of us) when it's super clear what the real reason is- cold feet.
So I used to be a fan of Shane ( I know gross but like most ppl I grew up with him and didn’t realize how horrible he was till I got older smh) but didnt he do this with Lisa, his ex girlfriend? Like I might be wrong but weren’t they engaged for a hot minute and then he broke up with her. Yes it was different bc he was figuring out his sexuality but still if the same thing with ACTUALLY getting married is a problem for him I wonder what’s gonna happen with Ryland.
Woah. I was listening intently...then you said my name and read my comment from FB. Wild! Thanks for touching on this topic Adam! Hope you have a happy new year ❤️
Honestly I am rooting for Ryland. He’s not a terrible person and never was so I don’t see why anyone gives him crap. Now Shane on the other hand is a different story lol
I think Shane is a narcissist and he can’t stand that Rylan’s is getting a bit more attention than he used to with his pod. It’s like Shane has to try and bring Rylan down to make himself feel better.
For some reason, a lot of couples who are no longer fit for each other think that somehow a baby will help them feel love for each other again. I know so many people in my personal life who have done this, and it ends a lot messier than it would have if they didn’t have a child involved. These two have no business bringing a child into this relationship if they don’t know where they themselves stand on it, not to mention the fact that Shane shouldn’t be allowed to have children ever!
not even just that they shouldn’t have a child because of they’re underestimating the task, they also shouldn’t have children bc shane shouldn’t be within 500 feet of one.
Oh Adam, my holidays have been absolutely miserable 😞 Last Wednesday my husband tested positive for the Rona, then Xmas morning I tested positive 😤 and 8 of the 9 people we work with also tested positive. Our Xmas was cancelled bcuz of it (hubs grandma is 98, she doesn’t need this) 🥺
Shane has been bothering me more than normal with the screams and dramatics. I don’t know how ryland handles it, it’s a huge turn off hearing a man whine like that… but I have noticed this too on the podcasts but I also remember them saying they play into their characters on Shane’s channel… yikes either way
ADAM! I don’t know if you’ve heard of The Chris Delia Problem on TH-cam but you should cover it! It’s one of the CRAZIEST stories. These victims deserve justice and the video needs so much more exposure!
Chris has a bf. It's super disrespectful to both Chris and his bf for shane to do that. Can cause problems. And Chris doesn't stop it bc of the power dynamic.
shane was doing a q&a on his snapchat yesterday and someones asked when the wedding will be and he said "we better do it this year!" so maybe theyre going to end up just eloping or doing something small to get it over with, which would mean rylands compromising alot cuz i feel like he wants a big bougie wedding but shane doesnt lol
I loved your December vlogs to much!! You’re such an incredible person! Thank you so much for authentic content! I hope you have an amazing New Years 🤍✨🤍
It's true that you never know how things are behind closed doors but given how much if their lives they put on camera and that the majority of that content is Shane humiliating, making fun of, and dismissing Ryland it really is a giant red flag.
I will say i think an important point was overseen here. Somewhere within Rylands vlogs, Shane explains that the wedding stuff is stressful because of the family mix. As someone who comes from an usual mix and someone who does not speak to their parents and has stressed about a wedding without the brides family being there since i was 15, it’s a very valid point. I also have friends with the same dynamic as Ryland, Shane & Chris, it’s all fun & games as they have said in multiple podcasts. The dynamic does work from what i’ve seen so i wouldn’t quadruple question if they’re faking it because of that. All in all i think they’re all a random dynamic but it works for them and as for them not being married yet, there’s valid reasons for their decisions in that. Rylands family is very family oriented and we don’t know much about Shane’s but it is the complete opposite. They have stated they want to get the family on lock before they mix the two which makes sense. They both want the whole family dream and it seems like they don’t want to settle for less. Just some points to be aware of because it’s understandable that not everyone understands
I have major anxiety so I could understand liking the idea of being engaged but not really rushing to be married. I never like weddings and a marriage ceremony sounds stressful. I'm pretty sure that it is common knowledge that a baby will be 1000x stressful and usually test the strength of relationships. A baby could break them up, especially since Shane is openly flirting with Chris and Ryan is obliviously upset by it.
As a mother to a beautiful but fussy 4 month old babygirl… Marriage is less stressful, doesn’t change that I love my little girl however I could have a wedding planned and organised in less than a month, being the first wedding i’d ever plan, especially because I have ADHD and Autism, my hyperfixation ability is almost unmanageable to my family
I remember shane literally said on camera, how he has to play flirt w Chris, for the followers to engage. We find it repulsive and he intentionally humiliates himself as a man, and rylan to solely gain interactment and $$$. Tithead
Hey Adam and the Muckers! I’m not doing anything crazy for New Years. Just tacos and getting wine drunk with my sister and our fiancés at her house. Best part is getting to spend it with my kitty nephews 🥰 I hope you’re holiday was grand and full of love and family. Much Love, Jen
They sound STUPID saying having a kid is less stressful than a marriage. They could go to a courthouse in their sweats and get married. That’s what me and my husband did. They just don’t want to be together. That’s as simple as I can put it. If they do adopt a child, they are just putting that child in a bad position and they won’t last 2 seconds when they bring a baby in the picture.
I really think Shane wants a child for the same reason he decided to adopt pets. Shane knows that without all this Ryland would have already broken up with him. As the responsibility increases, the relationship becomes more significant and it is difficult to get out of it.
Glad you had a good break, Adam, but also glad you are back. Feeling sick today... Even called out of work which is something I NEVER do. So really needed my comfort TH-camr today 🥰 . Agree with everything the muckers are saying, and especially like the comment the person made about being a 'band-aid baby'. We may not all understand what it is like to be a parent, but we can definitely look at situations like this from the child's point of view. As things are now with Shane and Ryland, I am worried their kid will not grow up in a good, loving environment.
I feel like Shane puts on a persona as do most celebrities and I feel like the version Shane and Ryland we don’t see are just normal people who put on a show for TH-cam and their income likes actors I will say you do have to go through a lot to be able to get a surrogate and if they passed everything you have to go through I’m sure their more than capable of raising a child especially with Shane in therapy and if y’all are okay with Trisha having a baby whom I also think is someone who is just putting on a show then I think in comparison it’s fine but I do find it comforting their conversations they had about not putting the child on TH-cam or at least blocking out their baby’s face and never having the videos be about just the baby it’s a great start in my opinion! Just my opinion and please don’t send hate to me for it! I doubt 99% of people are on here being 100% genuine that’s all I’m saying
im so late because i had to work BUT nice to see u again :] love the vibe of these videos, feels like a sleepover where we all just talk about the people we dont like lmao 💕
Ryland and Shane are going crazy about animals right now and they want to bring on a child?! If you watch Ryland's vlogs you see him taking care of the 7 alpacas and how many dogs and cats they have. And Ryland constantly complains how Shane does nothing but Shane blames it on depression or what not. That would be valid but they keep on getting more animals and now a baby on the way. Shane barely can take care of himself and his animals, how is he going to help Ryland...
Everything that you said about Shane’s podcast and him bluntly flirting with Chris in front of Ryland I always thought that was so weird and unprofessional. I’m glad I’m not the only one who sees it
Hearing you call us Mucker’s gives me soooo much serotonin
Everytime he says muckers I still to this day hear fu¢kers lol, but I agree it still makes me smile.
@@JuliyaTeletzke hehehe 🤭 I never thought of that but tbh imma never hear it as muckers now HAHAHA
What is a mucker?
@@mysticmandy8352 mucker is a slang term for friends and the nickname Adam has given to his fans
@@cerysmayporter854 In America it’s awfully close to a curse word
the number of people who treat babies like relationship bandaids is actually disgusting to me. im low-key anti-natalist, but if you ARE going to have a child, i believe it should be a VERY INTENTIONAL THING. you should bring them into the world with care, affection, and a game plan. anything less is doing a disservice to the that child and the community around you.
this comment has me punching the air bc you’re so on point. if the relationship isn’t doing well, how is a baby going to fix that? spoiler alert, it’s not - it’s only going to make things worse AND at the expense of a whole living human being.
Yup. People take bringing a whole person into the world WAY too lightly. Just because babies are easy to make doesn’t mean everyone needs one. That’s why so many people have traumatizing childhoods.
I am kind of an anti-natalist too and wholeheartedly agree with you. We shouldn't bring a child unless we truly want to, for the right reasons
Ryland really needs to set boundaries with Shane. I couldn’t even imagine my husband flirting with a mutual friend or employee right in front of me. Also when it comes to hiring someone there needs to be a discussion about what is and isn’t appropriate to say to someone you are employing because there is an obvious power dynamic because if Chris ever says that he’s uncomfortable Shane could just fire and drop him like it’s nothing.
The relationship was cute as first. Shane was confident and happy
Now it's a train wreck and seems like a business relationship not a love one
I still remember a long time ago (before "docu" -era) them doing a video with Ryland sitting on Shane's lap and them being all cute. If they weren't such dicks I'd feel bad for them.
comical that they think raising a child is less stressful than planning a wedding.. a child flips your entire life upside down. Shows how little they know about being a parent. I have 2 children and my relationship has went though MANY trials through the years after we had children. There’s A LOT of stress and pressure as a parent so it really can make or break your relationship. They really need to rethink if they think planning a wedding is “too stressful” but a child is not…
Agree 💯 I also have two kids and nothing challenges a relationship like parenting!
This, damn. Anyone who thinks raising kids is just this fun, nbd thing... probably shouldnt have them lmao. The ignorance is profound. If you're going to have kids, I feel like you should be afraid (in addition to, you know, wanting them and being stable etc)-there is no greater responsibility in life! That's stressful as hell! For at least 18 years... and no year-long breaks when you get sad about people not liking you on the internet 🙄
Anyone with half a brain would be able to tell you raising a child is 10x harder than planning a wedding💀
Agreed. Married with two under 2. Got pregnant when our daughter was 10 months and four months away from having our son. We didn’t have a wedding-my mom’s cousin married us. Ik it doesn’t compare to the stress of a wedding, but a wedding is a few months maybe of stress, one stressful day, and then maybe the stress of maintaining a healthy marriage. Kids are permanent and there are new trials and tribulations every single day. There are easier days and harder days.
With the way Shane treats children, and the people around him, I feel like any child he raises is going to go through a lot growing up. Shane is not someone who strikes me as a qualified parent, and it genuinely worries me that he wants one. I hope that any agency he tries to go to in order to get the kid will look into who he is and know to turn him down.
I feel like because he’s rich they won’t care unfortunately
I don’t think he ever wanted one. Which is worst 😳I think rylan was the one who really wanted a child.
And I agree with everything above you said
@@lissie3669 unfortunately, yeah... hopefully CPS will get involved. this is one of the few instances where I would support people calling the authorities on an internet figure.
@@andrealongbottom3869 Oh God yeah, I'm glad I wasn't the only one getting those vibes. I wouldn't be surprised if Shane expects he can just have Ryland do all the hard parenting, and he can do the "fun" parts (probably mainly for videos)
You never know, I mean look at Trisha lol
I’ll say it again, they could have a wedding on their ranch with their family and closest friends with the alpacas in the background… low key and intimate doesn’t mean cheap! It would be perfect for them.
If we can sense the tension between them as viewers through a screen, a child will definitely be able to sense the same
You'd think Shane would be more careful about how he treats Ryland in the public eye if he cares so much about his image. It seems strange that he's so openly vulgar with Chris in front of his literal fiancee...
I almost wonder if like maybe it turns Shane on to do be so openly vulgar towards Chris 🤔 cause like at this point its just too much..
Chris is PAID by Shane?????? … it’s giving Ned Fulmer vibes…😳
This was my first thought too like did they learn nothing about messing around with your employees.
@@MorbidMagik Shane doesn't learn
Did you think he worked for free?
Does no one remember that Shane was so irresponsible that he indirectly caused a kitten to die from not paying attention to it? And he thinks he can handle being responsible for a BABY?
Shane can't stand Ryland, and Ryland can't stand Shane. You can feel it through the screen.
But ryland likes that money and Shane isn't alone
Perfect business relationship
For real their so incompatible it makes me cringe, shane bullys rylan and I don’t see any love between them
We don't know what happens behind closed doors. Ryland has said they act it up a bit for drama on their podcast. We aren't there spying on them. Seeing how they act together alone.
@@FukaiKokoro we see enough
I think when Ryland gets bored of the luxuriois lifestyle he will dump shame dawson .
I realize this video is older and you probably won’t see it but Shane actually knew Chris as a child. In fact Chris was in one of Shane’s videos as a child. Shane acknowledges this when we are introduced to Chris. So the fact that Shane is now hardcore flirting with Chris really weirds me out idk about anyone else.
adam bby, yellow is definitely your color. i’m so glad that i discovered your channel this year, you are such a comforting creator to me, and someone that i find such an entertaining and real person, so thank you for showing us your realness on the internet, more people need to be like you and not be afraid to voice their opinions. i hope 2023 is a wonderful year for you mucker. i found you during a really dark time of my life, and i really found your humor helping me cope with my grandfathers death earlier this year and same with my cats death. hearing you had a great christmas made me smile from ear to ear, and i hope you continue to be able to experience that happiness adam. thank you❤
as someone who ACTUALLY hates being the center of attention- my wedding day was perfect and i didn’t care about anyone looking at me because i was only focused on my wife and how happy i was that we were with all of the most important people in our lives. and planning a wedding doesn’t have to be stressful if u just don’t expect everything to be perfect because nothing is ever perfect.
Think about it- Ryland wants a baby girl- all Shane’s controversies include young girls and kids, including his sketches. That’s even more disturbing that they won’t get married due to the child I feel like there’s gonna be some really messed up shit happening to that kid between them to the kids going to need a lifetime of therapy to fix their problems. I hope they don’t do anything perverted and nasty to that poor innocent child.
The timing of your mums text while you’re talking about Shane… PERFECT
The way Shane speaks to Ryland and how he speaks about him makes me severely uncomfortable. I can only imagine how it is without cameras rolling.
It’s like they’re trying to find things to fix them - the dogs didn’t work, the cat didn’t work, the new puppy didn’t work, the alpaca didn’t work, the new cat didn’t work…
No cause now I need to know who Mama McIntyre was cussin out 😭💀
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I used to hate New Years cause of the pressure to go out and have a good time etc till a couple years ago me and my boyfriend accidentally started a tradition of sleeping all day the eve (we were ill but not rona) then just staying up till like 9 or 10am watching spooky ghost movies
Holy cow, I love EVERYTHING about this, and I might have to talk to my husband and get him on board with the idea. :D
Same. Its just another day to me
Just from how we see things, it appears like if they have a child Ryland will be the main parent, and I think they even talked about how Shane would be the 'fun parent' in an old video. Like Shane doesn't show a general care for health, hygiene or basic care for others. Babies (and people in general) need patience and open love and affection.
Good to see you, Adam. My Christmas celebration got cancelled because of covid. Two of my family members got it, so I didn't go. I've had pneumonia 3 times and covid would really wreck my lungs. I'm so glad you had a lovely time with your family. I'm enjoying moderating for you.
I think parents glamorize parenting lol cuz if we were real about it no one would want them or think they ever would fix literally anything. Me and my bf never fought or really even disagreed before we had a kid. Its been a rollercoaster ever since then lol
lets not forget that Shane and Ryland had a kitten for a week before it was killed by their dog. Now imagine a baby in that household, I'm worried about the negligence as well as the literal dog, poor baby.
it would be irresponsible to bring a child into the home with that dog. hes killed a kitten, and as far as i know theyve made no effort to work with a behavioral specialist. the dog isnt necessarily a bad dog, but theyre horrible pet parents. i cant imagine the mess theyd make raising a kid
They literally have 3 dogs and 2 cats and many alpacas and have no problem taking care of all the animals.
@@cjo7277 well one of the animals killed another one so idk...
TW : suicide
I will go kind of dark here, but I think that Shane might use his mental health as some kind of magnet to keep Ryland in.
He said multiple times how he considered suicide for this or that and that Ryland "Saved him"
And that can be very toxic, because it’s a manipulation tactic to keep the person in out of fear of their partner doing something stupid and fear of having to deal with that person’s life as a whole!
And I think there’s still that Romeo and Juliette glorification within society that the "if you go, I go" is romantic in a way, but yeah in that case it’s absolutely not. A person should never be the unique responsibility of their partners mental health and being.
You know it’s telling if Ryland’s own family had to ask Shane if he still loved Ryland
you look well rested and happy mucker hope things have been going smoothly with your travels
i feel so bad for this potential child either way. “bandaid babies” basically either have to witness their parents go through a messy divorce or watch them live a loveless, spiteful life at home together. either way it messes up development and makes healthy relationships harder to keep/understand as you grow older.
This whole time I’m just thinking like…they can get married without having a wedding..Shane has no excuse 💀
I don’t care who this situation is about, my response is still the same. Every relationship has different goals, boundaries, etc. Shane hitting on Chris is no different than Ryland talking about kissing Lizzie on his podcast. they are entertainers and are acting as much. That doesn’t mean there is anything wrong with their relationship. As far has prioritizing having a child, yeah that makes sense too. They are both in their 30s. I’m sure that they want to get those moving as the process takes a lot of time. Getting married during this process will likely just prolong it. Also I’m sure there’s a lot to go over as they are both famous TH-camrs, I’m sure there is a lot of decisions to make like if a prenup is needed, etc.
When the relationship of my parents went south, my father also decided that it'd all be fixed if they bought a house and get a third child. Apparently a lot of people try to fix their relationship with commitments like that; I doubt it ever works. It didn't for us. It all was even worse past that point. I can't even fathom that ignorance. They should at least have to tend for something like a practice baby for at least a week before adopting.
I am baffled that after all the allegations, Shane would even be allowed to adopt a child. It's such a huge comittmend, you can't just "get a child" like a pet. Shane will fuck that kid up so much.
My “husband” and we will be celebrating our 21 anniversary this week. We danced around getting married for years and now 2 kids later we still haven’t gotten married. We just enjoy ourselves with trust. Not for everyone. Xo 🖤💕
there is a difference between it not being for someone and a partner simply not wanting to marry you anymore, I feel they just dont love one another that and shane always flirting with christ in front of Ryland? yeah no and the fact Ryland had made it clear he wanted to get married..and now suddenly dosn't..is a red flag. They don't need to be together let alone get married or have a kid ..god help the kid they get
Yea but they’re literally engaged. At this point either Shane wants to get married or not and he should make it a clear decision as Ryland DOES want to get married. You and your partner were on the same page. It’s obvious Shane and Ryland aren’t and having a kid will not help them.
I have a sneaking suspicion they are still getting married and put this stuff out there so they could have privacy in the moment. The truth is we don’t know them. They only show us what they want to and to be Frank these little shows they put together are for entertainment purposes. Not much is more interesting than stirring the pot and watching it bubble.
Called it. Hope this makes you all feel better.
It is statistically proven that 70% of marriages struggle and very often go through a period of splitting up in the first year of having a new baby… and that’s between people who actually wanted to get married and love each other sooo I wish Ryan luck as a future single parent - this shits hard man
Just like my mom always says “if you don’t have a wedding date, you aren’t engaged” even just an idea of year and month is enough. If you don’t plan to get married you just gave each other nice rings which is totally fine! But like in your relationship you have to define those kind of interactions. For me, if a person got on one knee and gave me a ring I’d expect to be wed within 2 years. But we also would have had that talk by then hopefully! If Ryland wants to be married, and it’s important to him, he needs a different partner it sounds like.
Not everyone that's engaged gets married.
@@HaloOverOurDemise true but its talked by two partners and agreed upon. Ryland want to get married, Shane doesnt. All the time finding excuses and beeing worse and worse towards Ryland. No wonder Ryland is tense towards Shane. Ive been in similar position like him. Waited few years. He wanted to marry me then changed his mind so many times. Then we had a date TWICE. Then last second he was cancelling our wedding dates without a talk with me just deciding for both of us. We had relantionship problems in the middle and he wanted a child to fix it. I didnt agree to it. You should never bring kid to the world to fix your relantionship. Gladly broken off with him for many years but it make cringe when I look back and didnt dump him sooner x
As someone who is planning a wedding and trying for a child currently, Shane is bullshitting he doesn't want to fully commit. It seems like its all for attention.
A 'bandaid baby', sometimes referred to as a 'save-the-relationship baby' is where a disfunctional/toxic couple thinks that having a child together will miraculously fix all of the problems in their relationship/marriage and bring them closer together. Nine times out of ten, all it does is either absolutely nothing to fix the relationship or makes the relationship worse by having a new thing to fuel their resentment towards each other: the full time commitment that is taking care of another human. No child should be raised in that sort of environment and these babies will often have emotional difficulties growing up or later in life.
You have perfect timing with a Shane Dawson video. My best friend and I decided for science to rewatch Shane's food videos to see how many things people missed. Literally the first video we clicked featured Shane constantly deadnaming Caitlin Jenner while referencing that at the time of the video, the coming out and transition had already happened. We didn't get through 2 videos.
Shane never wanted to get married. He led Lisa on with the promise of an engagement to dumping her when he came out as bisexual and jumped into a relationship with Ryland. He's doing the same thing again, promising Ryland they would get married but now he's trying to backtrack
I didn't even realize that!
I’ve honestly lost interest in Shane’s content a long time ago because a lot of what he makes now is very messy, disorganized, and doesn’t make any sense. I do however watch Ryland’s vlogs because I do enjoy watching his home life/decorating content (especially where they live now in Colorado is not to far from where I’m at now and it’s fun watching their adventures being near where I live). However since Shane edits a lot of Ryland’s content (according to previous videos he’s posted) he often puts himself at the center of it when it’s not his channel. Shane always wants to be the center of attention contradictory to everything he claims
By no means a Shane fan, but I do think it's worth noting that Shane usually films in a room with like 5 people in them. It's very different than being the center of attention in front of a live crowd. HOWEVER, small weddings exist, and you don't even need to do a ceremony at all
yeah i’m no stan but i had a court wedding n went to a concert so lol
I feel like Ryland is the type to demand an extravagant and big wedding 🤨 just a vibe he gives off I could be wrong lol
@@danichesney1876 i think theyre still planning one
I noticed in one of Ryland's recent vlogs he spilled coffee all over Shane and didn't apologize once. It's important to remember to say please, thank you, and sorry to your partner. It doesn't seem like a great relationship from what they show us.
I hate the idea that a child is less of a commitment than marriage. A child is a life long commitment. Marriage is supposed to be but if a marriage ends its not the end of the world (my parents have been married and divorced multiple times). Marriage is not as big of a commitment as a child. A child is an entire human. I will never understand that mentality 🫠
They are such narcissists. The only reason they think a child is less of a commitment is because the consequences of their actions will most affect the child, not them, whereas a marriage would have more of a direct impact on them personally
@@scipiodriver4076 you put into words exactly what it is 👏
I have 5 sons that are now 27, 26, 22, 20, and 18. Raising children, especially when they were younger, it's tough to say the least. When you're a good, involved parent, it can take a toll on relationships, friendships, family, because it takes so much of your time, takes a toll on mental health and you're so busy! Why in the hell would he think that it will make things easier? It will not BRING you closer, it will cause so much stress that it's likely to push you farther apart. Especially, if one of the parents are stuck doing most of the child care and decisions. Let's be honest, Ryland will be doing the most because Shane is lazy and would want to play with the child, leaving Ryland to do most of the difficult things, leaving a sense of resentment. They really need to see a real therapist, not a yes man that knows who shane is.
I've been with my SO 13 years and genuinely don't want to get married because I don't want to be the center of attention. I also preferred to put money towards house/children etc. But shane and I are SO not the same lol. He can afford all those things and like you said he is constantly the center of attention as it is.
IMO it's cringey to hear him BS those reasons (that are real to some of us) when it's super clear what the real reason is- cold feet.
So I used to be a fan of Shane ( I know gross but like most ppl I grew up with him and didn’t realize how horrible he was till I got older smh) but didnt he do this with Lisa, his ex girlfriend? Like I might be wrong but weren’t they engaged for a hot minute and then he broke up with her. Yes it was different bc he was figuring out his sexuality but still if the same thing with ACTUALLY getting married is a problem for him I wonder what’s gonna happen with Ryland.
Woah. I was listening intently...then you said my name and read my comment from FB. Wild! Thanks for touching on this topic Adam! Hope you have a happy new year ❤️
Honestly I am rooting for Ryland. He’s not a terrible person and never was so I don’t see why anyone gives him crap. Now Shane on the other hand is a different story lol
Literally
One thing is that ryland is so money hungry he wont leave shane lol its annoying
God no ryland only cares about fame and money and that's it.
I think Shane is a narcissist and he can’t stand that Rylan’s is getting a bit more attention than he used to with his pod. It’s like Shane has to try and bring Rylan down to make himself feel better.
Shane and rylands split up will be messy AF doomsday
I know - if they ever did break up I doubt Ryland would hold back on any details about what Shane is like behind closed doors
I wouldn’t feel comfortable with my fiancé sexually harassing our employee..
Very off topic but yellow looks great on you. It compliments your undertones very well and lights you up 💛💛
For some reason, a lot of couples who are no longer fit for each other think that somehow a baby will help them feel love for each other again. I know so many people in my personal life who have done this, and it ends a lot messier than it would have if they didn’t have a child involved. These two have no business bringing a child into this relationship if they don’t know where they themselves stand on it, not to mention the fact that Shane shouldn’t be allowed to have children ever!
not even just that they shouldn’t have a child because of they’re underestimating the task, they also shouldn’t have children bc shane shouldn’t be within 500 feet of one.
Happy Holidays Mucker! So nice to see you back posting, hope you have such an amazing new year! Take care🤍
Shane isn't in love with Ryland anymore but he's in too deep to break up with him, and he's digging the hole deeper adding a baby into the mix
Oh Adam, my holidays have been absolutely miserable 😞 Last Wednesday my husband tested positive for the Rona, then Xmas morning I tested positive 😤 and 8 of the 9 people we work with also tested positive. Our Xmas was cancelled bcuz of it (hubs grandma is 98, she doesn’t need this) 🥺
sending you, your family & coworkers so much love & I hope everyone has a speedy recovery
@@NotoriousJLV Thanks 🙏
Shane has been bothering me more than normal with the screams and dramatics. I don’t know how ryland handles it, it’s a huge turn off hearing a man whine like that… but I have noticed this too on the podcasts but I also remember them saying they play into their characters on Shane’s channel… yikes either way
Shane shows no signs of being mature enough to be a father and raise a child when he brings it up he always acts so silly about it
ADAM! I don’t know if you’ve heard of The Chris Delia Problem on TH-cam but you should cover it! It’s one of the CRAZIEST stories. These victims deserve justice and the video needs so much more exposure!
wait, isn’t that a bigoted comedian or have i mixed people up?
@@jaqsre kinda. He also has SA aligations against him
@@jaqsre he’s most known for being a sexual predator
@@Truecrimeresearcher224 ahhh it was the predator comedian.. hard to keep tabs on all of them but at least it was in the same ballpark :/
I think there's a level of narcissism in being an entertainer in general.
He treats Ryland like an assistant! Just like Trisha and Moses!
5:06 that is a sign and you cannot tell me otherwise💀💀
Chris has a bf. It's super disrespectful to both Chris and his bf for shane to do that. Can cause problems. And Chris doesn't stop it bc of the power dynamic.
I really enjoyed your take on having to have a little narcissism to be a TH-camr.
shane was doing a q&a on his snapchat yesterday and someones asked when the wedding will be and he said "we better do it this year!" so maybe theyre going to end up just eloping or doing something small to get it over with, which would mean rylands compromising alot cuz i feel like he wants a big bougie wedding but shane doesnt lol
Your mum could just sense you were talking about Shane and thought she'd drop her opinion
I loved your December vlogs to much!! You’re such an incredible person! Thank you so much for authentic content! I hope you have an amazing New Years 🤍✨🤍
It's true that you never know how things are behind closed doors but given how much if their lives they put on camera and that the majority of that content is Shane humiliating, making fun of, and dismissing Ryland it really is a giant red flag.
If you don't want to do something, any excuse is gonna sound like a good reason 🤷♀️
I’ve missed you Adam hope the holidays were great
I will say i think an important point was overseen here. Somewhere within Rylands vlogs, Shane explains that the wedding stuff is stressful because of the family mix. As someone who comes from an usual mix and someone who does not speak to their parents and has stressed about a wedding without the brides family being there since i was 15, it’s a very valid point.
I also have friends with the same dynamic as Ryland, Shane & Chris, it’s all fun & games as they have said in multiple podcasts. The dynamic does work from what i’ve seen so i wouldn’t quadruple question if they’re faking it because of that.
All in all i think they’re all a random dynamic but it works for them and as for them not being married yet, there’s valid reasons for their decisions in that. Rylands family is very family oriented and we don’t know much about Shane’s but it is the complete opposite. They have stated they want to get the family on lock before they mix the two which makes sense. They both want the whole family dream and it seems like they don’t want to settle for less. Just some points to be aware of because it’s understandable that not everyone understands
Ryland could do much better than Shane anyways.. in my opinion of course😬
Yeah like my sis got married to someone they didn’t love and now has kids 😬
Please go live more Adam I miss your lives ☹️💗💗 Happy Holidays 🫶🏼
Adam your tattoos are coming together so beautifully. I’ve loved watching you on this journey!! Your arms look sick!😻
Dying to know the context of your mothers text message 😂
im spending the new years at my moms in kansas city at dive bars! i hope everyone here has a wonderful and safe new years!!♥️💋
i work at a fireworks store so my new years plans are to work and wait for my coworkers to get off. we all light a few together
I have major anxiety so I could understand liking the idea of being engaged but not really rushing to be married. I never like weddings and a marriage ceremony sounds stressful.
I'm pretty sure that it is common knowledge that a baby will be 1000x stressful and usually test the strength of relationships. A baby could break them up, especially since Shane is openly flirting with Chris and Ryan is obliviously upset by it.
Mucker you're looking great I'm glad you had a nice holiday with family!
Been working so much, getting that overtime. I wish I could have relaxed and reset this week
5:07 iconic
Oh dear. As a parent I can confirm that babies are tough and they strain a relationship.
As a mother to a beautiful but fussy 4 month old babygirl… Marriage is less stressful, doesn’t change that I love my little girl however I could have a wedding planned and organised in less than a month, being the first wedding i’d ever plan, especially because I have ADHD and Autism, my hyperfixation ability is almost unmanageable to my family
i’m pretty sure shane’s avoiding it because he doesn’t have friends anymore to attend the wedding lol
I remember shane literally said on camera, how he has to play flirt w Chris, for the followers to engage. We find it repulsive and he intentionally humiliates himself as a man, and rylan to solely gain interactment and $$$. Tithead
Hey Adam and the Muckers!
I’m not doing anything crazy for New Years. Just tacos and getting wine drunk with my sister and our fiancés at her house. Best part is getting to spend it with my kitty nephews 🥰 I hope you’re holiday was grand and full of love and family.
Much Love,
Jen
They sound STUPID saying having a kid is less stressful than a marriage. They could go to a courthouse in their sweats and get married. That’s what me and my husband did. They just don’t want to be together. That’s as simple as I can put it. If they do adopt a child, they are just putting that child in a bad position and they won’t last 2 seconds when they bring a baby in the picture.
It's less stressful for Shane, because ryland will be doing all the hard work.
I really think Shane wants a child for the same reason he decided to adopt pets.
Shane knows that without all this Ryland would have already broken up with him.
As the responsibility increases, the relationship becomes more significant and it is difficult to get out of it.
Your commentary brings me life
So glad you are back home and safe. No more rides on so many plans and privies with air ports
Glad you had a good break, Adam, but also glad you are back. Feeling sick today... Even called out of work which is something I NEVER do. So really needed my comfort TH-camr today 🥰 .
Agree with everything the muckers are saying, and especially like the comment the person made about being a 'band-aid baby'. We may not all understand what it is like to be a parent, but we can definitely look at situations like this from the child's point of view. As things are now with Shane and Ryland, I am worried their kid will not grow up in a good, loving environment.
You are so young but growing wiser every day!
I feel like Shane puts on a persona as do most celebrities and I feel like the version Shane and Ryland we don’t see are just normal people who put on a show for TH-cam and their income likes actors I will say you do have to go through a lot to be able to get a surrogate and if they passed everything you have to go through I’m sure their more than capable of raising a child especially with Shane in therapy and if y’all are okay with Trisha having a baby whom I also think is someone who is just putting on a show then I think in comparison it’s fine but I do find it comforting their conversations they had about not putting the child on TH-cam or at least blocking out their baby’s face and never having the videos be about just the baby it’s a great start in my opinion! Just my opinion and please don’t send hate to me for it! I doubt 99% of people are on here being 100% genuine that’s all I’m saying
im so late because i had to work BUT nice to see u again :] love the vibe of these videos, feels like a sleepover where we all just talk about the people we dont like lmao 💕
Ryland and Shane are going crazy about animals right now and they want to bring on a child?!
If you watch Ryland's vlogs you see him taking care of the 7 alpacas and how many dogs and cats they have. And Ryland constantly complains how Shane does nothing but Shane blames it on depression or what not. That would be valid but they keep on getting more animals and now a baby on the way.
Shane barely can take care of himself and his animals, how is he going to help Ryland...
“For the 2 of ya out there” 😂💀💀💀
Everything that you said about Shane’s podcast and him bluntly flirting with Chris in front of Ryland I always thought that was so weird and unprofessional. I’m glad I’m not the only one who sees it