This. What was the stat last season? Something like 46% of scrums resulted in ball out, with the rest being FKs or Pens? How's that better? That said, I feel that very few below the pros had a problem with the way things are - both players and refs at the top end were complicit in ignoring laws and bowing to pressure to not re-set a scrum.
when the scrum half gets the call from the referee does he have to put the ball in right away or is it a "from now on you can feed in the ball" call? 'Cause I think the rules says the last one but they are interpreted as if the call to feed the ball in the scrum has to be immediate.
Some players enjoy the "big hit" at the scrum engagement : We can keep the Big Hit and more stability /safety - just have the hookers bind under the props rather than over.
If indeed the scrum is meant to be evenly contested then the hooker on the team putting the ball in should be required to take his bind under his props not over. The over bind should be awarded to the hooker not having the put in : This evens things up a bit as per fair chance to strike for ball. One side or the other taking the under bind (Hooker) also alleviates some of a center point of pressure. Ideally both hookers need to take the under bind to insure time and space for a purposeful hook / strike. Unfortunately ninety eight percent of players, coaches and administrators don't understand the mechanics and pressure involved at the hooker spot : And to a lesser degree the tight head
3:32 "The referee's gonna make them put it in straight; that law hasn't been applied for a number of years now." lmfaooooo! It is over ten years hence, and scrum-halves are STILL allowed to not feed straight, despite the unambiguous wording of the law. Moreover, when I asked in referee training in 2022 whether the feed did actually have to be straight or not, the only answer the instructors could give me was that the feed had to be "credible", which doesn't mean anything.
I guess in theory the tall props like Andrew Sheridan and Os Durant just smashed their opponents out of the way will now disappear? Id imagine that the new laws will favour short squat props and hookers, like Thomas Domingo..
In the front row of a scrum exists an extreme example. The hooker being trussed like a hog to a skewer and rammed forward, brings together two forward points with convex pressure and no relief : Thus creating an intense or very high MOI value (moment of inertia). This would be reversed and redistributed evenly across the front row IF the hooker would instead take the under bind in support of his props. This would mean the front rows will engage slightly concave NOT the traditional convex, pointed or hooker forward style. The PROPS in turn will take the over the top bind on the hooker ; per LAW 20.3 b - the HOOKER will take the supportive under bind. This small change will make scrumdowns safer and more stable. From the beginnings of rugby up to and into the 1900's there were sometimes as many as 4, 5 or 6 in a front row therefore a need to thrust the hooker forward. This is NOT the case any more !! Wake Up - World Rugby (IRB)
Couldn't agree more. As a lock, I don't know how many times I've had a head to head massage by an opposing tight head who's casually ploughed through the front row.
I can see what's going to happen. Certain teams will be constantly penalised...we all know which country that will be...while other teams will not be. Wait and see.
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This. What was the stat last season? Something like 46% of scrums resulted in ball out, with the rest being FKs or Pens? How's that better? That said, I feel that very few below the pros had a problem with the way things are - both players and refs at the top end were complicit in ignoring laws and bowing to pressure to not re-set a scrum.
It is hard to keep scrum for long time...
when the scrum half gets the call from the referee does he have to put the ball in right away or is it a "from now on you can feed in the ball" call? 'Cause I think the rules says the last one but they are interpreted as if the call to feed the ball in the scrum has to be immediate.
Some players enjoy the "big hit" at the scrum engagement : We can keep the Big Hit and more stability /safety - just have the hookers bind under the props rather than over.
If indeed the scrum is meant to be evenly contested then the hooker on the team putting the ball in should be required to take his bind under his props not over. The over bind should be awarded to the hooker not having the put in : This evens things up a bit as per fair chance to strike for ball. One side or the other taking the under bind (Hooker) also alleviates some of a center point of pressure. Ideally both hookers need to take the under bind to insure time and space for a purposeful hook / strike. Unfortunately ninety eight percent of players, coaches and administrators don't understand the mechanics and pressure involved at the hooker spot : And to a lesser degree the tight head
No 3 purple, illegal bind on the red loosehead's arm!
ill give it to the end of the season before i judge.
It's not like they have been any good with the previous laws
Not a lot of straight put-ins on the last Super Saturday - and no penalties!
3:32 "The referee's gonna make them put it in straight; that law hasn't been applied for a number of years now." lmfaooooo! It is over ten years hence, and scrum-halves are STILL allowed to not feed straight, despite the unambiguous wording of the law. Moreover, when I asked in referee training in 2022 whether the feed did actually have to be straight or not, the only answer the instructors could give me was that the feed had to be "credible", which doesn't mean anything.
And the use it instruction will not be administered fairly or consistently.
What's wrong with some good barging! Hooking for over 20 years and it getting softer and softer!
I guess in theory the tall props like Andrew Sheridan and Os Durant just smashed their opponents out of the way will now disappear? Id imagine that the new laws will favour short squat props and hookers, like Thomas Domingo..
In the front row of a scrum exists an extreme example. The hooker being trussed like a hog to a skewer and rammed forward, brings together two forward points with convex pressure and no relief : Thus creating an intense or very high MOI value (moment of inertia). This would be reversed and redistributed evenly across the front row IF the hooker would instead take the under bind in support of his props. This would mean the front rows will engage slightly concave NOT the traditional convex, pointed or hooker forward style. The PROPS in turn will take the over the top bind on the hooker ; per LAW 20.3 b - the HOOKER will take the supportive under bind. This small change will make scrumdowns safer and more stable. From the beginnings of rugby up to and into the 1900's there were sometimes as many as 4, 5 or 6 in a front row therefore a need to thrust the hooker forward. This is NOT the case any more !! Wake Up - World Rugby (IRB)
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Couldn't agree more. As a lock, I don't know how many times I've had a head to head massage by an opposing tight head who's casually ploughed through the front row.
I can see what's going to happen. Certain teams will be constantly penalised...we all know which country that will be...while other teams will not be. Wait and see.
Well that's shit. I takes away any battle of the hit now
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Too much scrum in rugby
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I know really annoying
please dont turn into league