so, if it's not a metal oxide semiconductor, it has to be a junction field effect, yes? am i right to think that metal oxide surface passivation turns FETs into switches, while this device is operating as an amplifier?
Thanks. Nice, well thought out video. I liked the description of the mic-as-resistor. The 2SK596S is a N-Chan JFET, though. I think you said MOSFET, which is similar but more sensitive to ESD static damage. Keep making these brief, very informative videos!
I have some questions for you!...I'm interested in condenser microphones, I really liked your tutorial, thank you. 1- Since the capacitive microphones are mini, can they be good pickups for guitars and similar stringed instruments? 2-Are there advantages and disadvantages? 3-Do you have a video about designing and implementing a circuit suitable for this? 4-Do you have a more advantageous mini microphone suggestion as a capacitive microphone alternative?
Re Q1 - you can buy something like the Behringer CB100 for a mere $35, so I'm not sure that constructing your own is worth it - the CB 100 includes a nice little gooseneck, pop filter, and the active pre-amp mini XLR TA3F to full size XLR adapter (yes, that black adapter thingy is ACTIVE, not just wires in a metal shell). A wide variety of clips are available to adapt this mic, and others like it to work on anything from an acoustic contra bass to a flute. Thomann in Germany has some great, affordable kits under the house brand "t.bone Ovid System". Re Q2 - acoustic guitars are typically amplified by piezo pickups under the bridge. This technique is a little less prone to feedback than using an actual mic, and also does not really pick up room noise like a mic does. For steel string acoustic guitars, there are products like the Seymour-Duncan Woody series pickups, which fit in the sound hole, and are also more resistant to feedback than a mic, and similarly does not pick up room noise. If you are going to play with building your own, remember that pro audio consoles and USB interfaces put out about 48 volts when phantom power is switched on. If you look at the specs for most of the FETs used in these condenser capsules, you will see that the maximum drain-source voltage is in the range of 20 volts. If you don't build a voltage divider, or some other method of stepping down the phantom power 48v, then your poor little electret capsule is going to emit the magic smoke, and join it's brethren in mic heaven.
Love your videos & the way you explain things - thanks. Since you make things simple and clear, I would love to see your videos on Op-Amps, 555 timer, Amplifier Classes (A, B, C, D, AB) & more... Also, it would be great to also do a "Series" of videos on 'practical projects' (from design to building the circuit) like: - Variable output switching power supply - Audio Amplifiers (Class D) - including Pre and Power Amps plus the required power supply for this amp Once again, thanks for these great videos, eagerly waiting for more...
2:48 in my trivial but still interesting scheme, I noticed that it works (I am talking about two 34 mm piezo disks ) but since I did not supply the piezos with 5V (I clearly get a poor and insignificant result). Pcb preamplifier voltage range: 5V to 15 VDC. I chose 12 VDC so I have to apply a resistor (suppose I= 20 mA ----> 0.02 A ) of 350 ohms 1\4 W.
Electret microphones work better with a bias voltage over the capacitor gap. This is where a coating of electret material comes in. An electric field is applied to the material at a high temperature. On cooling the material 'remembers' the field and this acts as a bias voltage in the capacitor assembly. As the plates vibrate and the distance changes it causes a charge to be fed to the gate of the jfet.
now again very useful informations condensed in one site, much more than lot of theory that someone have to study for months before to get same informations. Thank you
Ahh thats what those things are, nice break down. Ive been salvaging these from discarded vape pen cigarettes (mainly for the battery) and was mystified how they worked. Well i knew when you sucked it turns on the vape pen, the air moving through it activates it somehow, they even seal the edges with rubber so theres good suction/air pressure on the mic. Now it makes more sense. I never thought of them as microphones however just an air activated switch, but tehcnically blowing air is the same thing as talking so its the same thing. Very cool.
Unfortunately the sensor in a vape is not a microphone, but just a pressure switch i.e. on / off. But these microphones are very cheap to buy online! I'm still looking for use for the pressure switch in a vape....
Actually I just took one apart and its the same thing! Same parts and everything, well almost the hole placement is alittle different on the front case and also it had 3 leads comming off the bottom(so you can hook something up for switching) instead of 2 like here in the video and the IC has 5 legs. But everything else is the same with a diaprhame and little red ring to seperate them. So they did turn a microphone into an on and off switch... heh makes sense as it wouldnt take much to use the vibration signal from a mic to turn something off or on which im assuming the more complicated IC handles, setting the threshold, timeout after a certain amount of time etc. I wonder if its a hard on or off, probably not, but only one way to find out. @@mikepanchaud1
The only difference is the cape pen version is an all or nothing device, the jfet controls a mosfet so it acts like a pressure differential switch that latches for a preset time when triggered.
Very nice tutorial thanks! As a suggestion, this is one situation where an analogue (pointer) meter would be useful to show slow moving and transient changes.
I cannot find the datasheet for these microphone capsules " OB22P40 40dB 10pf+33pF - Electret BSE " ... . I will try again to review ... . Would you be able to tell me anything? Would you personally buy them? Thank you very much.
I literally just started working on a microphone circuit and cant figure out the amplifier circuit I need to use Thank you for explaining the details behind the electret microphones, could you explain what peak current (after DC coupling) should I expect from such a microphone? I connected my mic to a 5V source thru 1k resistor I'm waiting for the next video!
One great thing about videos is that you don't really have to explain each thing that is going to happen in advance since people watching the video can see and hear those parts too!
One way to build an extremely cheap radiation detector is to gut one of these for the FET and wire a PIN type photodiode across it. Then follow with a simple amplifier. Just make sure its put inside of an opaque and conductive case of some sort. ❤
Correction , it is N-Channel JFET transistor and not MOSFET , different component structure and operation ... Refer to 2SK596S by either SANYO or ONSemi ....
I was always wondering if the vape pen I discombobulated from China dumping them here were secretly bugged spying devices lol ':D! It is just hearing a lot of air, like an unprotected speaker in the breeze, to activate the coils inside :).
It's a FET but not a MOSFET.
I Just made the same comment before reading yours.
That was my mistake, thank you for mentioning that
so, if it's not a metal oxide semiconductor, it has to be a junction field effect, yes? am i right to think that metal oxide surface passivation turns FETs into switches, while this device is operating as an amplifier?
A JFET it is. Very useful video. Thanks elewizard. @@gazrgazr2394
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Thanks. Nice, well thought out video. I liked the description of the mic-as-resistor. The 2SK596S is a N-Chan JFET, though. I think you said MOSFET, which is similar but more sensitive to ESD static damage. Keep making these brief, very informative videos!
Glad it was helpful! And thank you for the point 👍
Yet another fantastic video. Your way of looking at electronics is so refreshing. Thank you.
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These videos are getting better each time, keep going!
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I have some questions for you!...I'm interested in condenser microphones, I really liked your tutorial, thank you.
1- Since the capacitive microphones are mini, can they be good pickups for guitars and similar stringed instruments?
2-Are there advantages and disadvantages?
3-Do you have a video about designing and implementing a circuit suitable for this?
4-Do you have a more advantageous mini microphone suggestion as a capacitive microphone alternative?
Hi, I appreciate your kind words.
1.i have no experience in this area. Instruments and music in general.
2.IDK 😅
3.No 😅
4.not really 😅
Re Q1 - you can buy something like the Behringer CB100 for a mere $35, so I'm not sure that constructing your own is worth it - the CB 100 includes a nice little gooseneck, pop filter, and the active pre-amp mini XLR TA3F to full size XLR adapter (yes, that black adapter thingy is ACTIVE, not just wires in a metal shell). A wide variety of clips are available to adapt this mic, and others like it to work on anything from an acoustic contra bass to a flute. Thomann in Germany has some great, affordable kits under the house brand "t.bone Ovid System".
Re Q2 - acoustic guitars are typically amplified by piezo pickups under the bridge. This technique is a little less prone to feedback than using an actual mic, and also does not really pick up room noise like a mic does. For steel string acoustic guitars, there are products like the Seymour-Duncan Woody series pickups, which fit in the sound hole, and are also more resistant to feedback than a mic, and similarly does not pick up room noise.
If you are going to play with building your own, remember that pro audio consoles and USB interfaces put out about 48 volts when phantom power is switched on. If you look at the specs for most of the FETs used in these condenser capsules, you will see that the maximum drain-source voltage is in the range of 20 volts. If you don't build a voltage divider, or some other method of stepping down the phantom power 48v, then your poor little electret capsule is going to emit the magic smoke, and join it's brethren in mic heaven.
Thank you for improving my knowledge.
My pleasure, thank you for watching
JFET with internal gate-leak bias resistor. I was hoping to find out more about the electret material used...
The material is usually polyvinyl fluoride aka kynar material.
Love your videos & the way you explain things - thanks. Since you make things simple and clear, I would love to see your videos on Op-Amps, 555 timer, Amplifier Classes (A, B, C, D, AB) & more...
Also, it would be great to also do a "Series" of videos on 'practical projects' (from design to building the circuit) like:
- Variable output switching power supply
- Audio Amplifiers (Class D) - including Pre and Power Amps plus the required power supply for this amp
Once again, thanks for these great videos, eagerly waiting for more...
Thank you for watching. Some of your recommended subjects are in my todo list 🥂
Great video!
Did you make the amplifier video for the speaker?
Yes, I did. It is just next to this video in the channel. Here is the link to that
th-cam.com/video/gnHuzM8PDrc/w-d-xo.html
2:48 in my trivial but still interesting scheme, I noticed that it works (I am talking about two 34 mm piezo disks ) but since I did not supply the piezos with 5V (I clearly get a poor and insignificant result). Pcb preamplifier voltage range: 5V to 15 VDC. I chose 12 VDC so I have to apply a resistor (suppose I= 20 mA ----> 0.02 A ) of 350 ohms 1\4 W.
Thanks for sharing 👍
Electret microphones work better with a bias voltage over the capacitor gap. This is where a coating of electret material comes in. An electric field is applied to the material at a high temperature. On cooling the material 'remembers' the field and this acts as a bias voltage in the capacitor assembly. As the plates vibrate and the distance changes it causes a charge to be fed to the gate of the jfet.
Great point.
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now again very useful informations condensed in one site, much more than lot of theory that someone have to study for months before to get same informations. Thank you
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Ahh thats what those things are, nice break down. Ive been salvaging these from discarded vape pen cigarettes (mainly for the battery) and was mystified how they worked. Well i knew when you sucked it turns on the vape pen, the air moving through it activates it somehow, they even seal the edges with rubber so theres good suction/air pressure on the mic. Now it makes more sense. I never thought of them as microphones however just an air activated switch, but tehcnically blowing air is the same thing as talking so its the same thing. Very cool.
Yeah, that is really cool.👌
Unfortunately the sensor in a vape is not a microphone, but just a pressure switch i.e. on / off. But these microphones are very cheap to buy online! I'm still looking for use for the pressure switch in a vape....
Actually I just took one apart and its the same thing! Same parts and everything, well almost the hole placement is alittle different on the front case and also it had 3 leads comming off the bottom(so you can hook something up for switching) instead of 2 like here in the video and the IC has 5 legs. But everything else is the same with a diaprhame and little red ring to seperate them. So they did turn a microphone into an on and off switch... heh makes sense as it wouldnt take much to use the vibration signal from a mic to turn something off or on which im assuming the more complicated IC handles, setting the threshold, timeout after a certain amount of time etc. I wonder if its a hard on or off, probably not, but only one way to find out. @@mikepanchaud1
The only difference is the cape pen version is an all or nothing device, the jfet controls a mosfet so it acts like a pressure differential switch that latches for a preset time when triggered.
Very nice tutorial thanks! As a suggestion, this is one situation where an analogue (pointer) meter would be useful to show slow moving and transient changes.
Thanks for the tip!👍
Thanks, very well described the function of capacitive microphone.
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I cannot find the datasheet for these microphone capsules " OB22P40 40dB 10pf+33pF - Electret BSE " ... . I will try again to review ... . Would you be able to tell me anything? Would you personally buy them? Thank you very much.
There are datasheets on the internet. Check out alldatasheet.com
Also other websites
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I am not sure, maybe it is 5 layer but it is not single layer
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Glad it was helpful, next video is about a simple audio amplifier 📢
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I literally just started working on a microphone circuit and cant figure out the amplifier circuit I need to use
Thank you for explaining the details behind the electret microphones, could you explain what peak current (after DC coupling) should I expect from such a microphone? I connected my mic to a 5V source thru 1k resistor
I'm waiting for the next video!
In the next video, I will explain a simple audio amplifier and make a megaphone 📢 using basic components.
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One great thing about videos is that you don't really have to explain each thing that is going to happen in advance since people watching the video can see and hear those parts too!
Good point!👍
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can i use 12V supply voltage with 4.7k resistor in this circuit
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Please make that microphone to speaker video!
Wait for next videos. In next video I will make a simple megaphone 📢
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One way to build an extremely cheap radiation detector is to gut one of these for the FET and wire a PIN type photodiode across it. Then follow with a simple amplifier. Just make sure its put inside of an opaque and conductive case of some sort. ❤
Thank you for being a part of the community and sharing your knowledge❤️
Correction , it is N-Channel JFET transistor and not MOSFET , different component structure and operation ... Refer to 2SK596S by either SANYO or ONSemi ....
Thank you for correcting me.
That was my mistake
The only downside is that the electret can be ruined by too much heat, and their output supposedly declines some over long periods of time.
I have mics that are 60 years old. Will an electret get waker after 60 years? We don't know.
It depends on some parameters, but usually they shouldn't get weaker 👍
The 596S is not a MOSFET like you said at 4:17: it is a good old fashioned channel-N J-FET. A have a box full of them...and at 4:27: MOSFET again.
That was my mistake, thank you for mentioning that 👍
Hi, can I request for you to do a clip for me please?
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I was always wondering if the vape pen I discombobulated from China dumping them here were secretly bugged spying devices lol ':D!
It is just hearing a lot of air, like an unprotected speaker in the breeze, to activate the coils inside :).
Yes, exactly. 👍
Yes . The tiny switch which connects the battery to the heating element looks interesting
Geiger counter principe
Did you skip talking about the electret in an electret microphone??